2017 Kia Optima Lease Deals and Prices

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 264,519
    teflon80 said:

    Can I get MF % Residual for Kia Optima Plug in EX with and without tech in Socal?

    36/10k with tech
    36/10k w/o tech
    36/12k with tech
    36/12k w/o tech


    36/12 numbers; add 1% for 10K

    .00104 and 43%; $10,919 lease cash

    Tech package does not affect the numbers

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    39720, 37000
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 264,519
    Michaell said:

    any advice on this lease deal? I think its too high, but I'm no expert,
    Kia Optima plug in EX w/ technology package
    36/15 Southern California
    $10919 lease cash
    $500 military rebate
    Cost of vehicle $37000
    dealer wants $2000 cash down (not happening)
    payments are at $349 plus tax
    Any helpful thoughts?

    and what other lease cash is missing, dealer is only giving $6919 & $1500?

    Need to know the MSRP and adjusted cap cost in order to model a payment.

    39720, 37000
    .00104 and 41%

    I get $316/mo plus tax.

    Dealer may be marking up the MF on you, or the cap cost is different from the selling price less lease cash ($26,081) that I used in my calculation

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  • steveh71steveh71 Member Posts: 23
    What are the MF, residual and incentives for an Optima EX Hybrid in Pennsylvania for 36/12k?  Thank you.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 264,519
    steveh71 said:

    What are the MF, residual and incentives for an Optima EX Hybrid in Pennsylvania for 36/12k?  Thank you.

    .00058 and 45%; $6500 lease cash

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  • steveh71steveh71 Member Posts: 23
    In Pennsylvania for the Plug In Hybrid EX 36mo/12K - are you still showing .00104 and 43% and $10,919 lease cash ? Thank you
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,665
    steveh71 said:

    In Pennsylvania for the Plug In Hybrid EX 36mo/12K - are you still showing .00104 and 43% and $10,919 lease cash ? Thank you

    Yes

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  • choward504choward504 Member Posts: 1
    Hi, what would the numbers be for an Optima plug-in EX w/tech for Virginia and North Carolina? 36/15k and 24/15k. Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,665

    Hi, what would the numbers be for an Optima plug-in EX w/tech for Virginia and North Carolina? 36/15k and 24/15k. Thanks!

    24mo: .00158 MF and 46% residual. $11,919 lease cash
    36 mo: .00129 MF and 41% residual. $10,919 lease cash

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  • evoicevoic Member Posts: 22
    I'm trying to determine money factor and residual on 2017 Optima Hybrid base.
    36 month / 12k & 15k / SoCal.

    Thank you!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 264,519
    evoic said:

    I'm trying to determine money factor and residual on 2017 Optima Hybrid base.
    36 month / 12k & 15k / SoCal.

    Thank you!

    36/12 - .00058 and 45%; $6500 lease cash
    Subtract 2% for 15K

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  • evoicevoic Member Posts: 22
    Michaell said:



    36/12 - .00058 and 45%; $6500 lease cash
    Subtract 2% for 15K

    Fantastic.
    Thumbs up to you and thank you very much for such a quick response!
  • wlsghtmeod1wlsghtmeod1 Member Posts: 24
    Can I get mf and rv and lease cash for sx and sxl 36/12? Thank you! Im in TX For mf, i have about 700 credit score
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,665

    Can I get mf and rv and lease cash for sx and sxl 36/12? Thank you! Im in TX For mf, i have about 700 credit score

    SX: .00107 MF and 52% residual. $4500 lease cash
    SXL: .00085 MF and 50% residual. $5500 lease cash

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  • steveh71steveh71 Member Posts: 23
    Would you please provide me numbers for the Optima EX Trim for 36/12m? I am in Pennsylvania. Thank you.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,665
    steveh71 said:

    Would you please provide me numbers for the Optima EX Trim for 36/12m? I am in Pennsylvania. Thank you.

    .00129 MF and 51% residual
    $4500 lease cash

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  • Omar StabenOmar Staben Member Posts: 55
    edited October 2017
    Hello!

    Would I please be able to get RV and MF for November (I hope you guys have these available already) for Kia optima lx turbo
    and for kia optima hybrid premium?

    Southern California, both 36 months/12k miles
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,665
    tenchis said:

    Hello!

    Would I please be able to get RV and MF for November (I hope you guys have these available already) for Kia optima lx turbo
    and for kia optima hybrid premium?

    Southern California, both 36 months/12k miles

    Numbers don't come out until tomorrow. Not sure when we will see them.

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  • steveh71steveh71 Member Posts: 23
    Do you have November's MF, residual and incentives for Pennsylvania and 36K/12mo? 2017 EX, Hybrid Premium, Hybrid EX, and Hybrid Plug In? Thank you.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,665
    steveh71 said:

    Do you have November's MF, residual and incentives for Pennsylvania and 36K/12mo? 2017 EX, Hybrid Premium, Hybrid EX, and Hybrid Plug In? Thank you.

    .00179 MF and 49% residual. $5530 lease cash
    .00184 MF and 43% residual. $7530 lease cash
    .00181 MF and 43% residual. $8630 lease cash
    .00182 MF and 42% residual. $12249 lease cash

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  • raymos24raymos24 Member Posts: 166
    edited November 2017
    Hi Everyone! Just got the pull ahead program email and I'm looking into a new Kia. What are the numbers for Hybrid EX, SX and SXL trims for 24/12 and 36/10 in 02119? Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,665
    raymos24 said:

    Hi Everyone! Just got the pull ahead program email and I'm looking into a new Kia. What are the numbers for Hybrid EX, SX and SXL trims for 24/12 and 36/10 in 02119? Thanks!

    EX Hybrid
    .00185 MF and 48% residual. $9440 lease cash
    .00181 MF and 43% residual. $8960 lease cash
    SX
    .00151 and 55%. $7040
    .00179 and 50%. $6360
    SXL
    .00146 and 53%. $8840
    .00183 and 48%. $8060

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  • raymos24raymos24 Member Posts: 166
    kyfdx said:

    raymos24 said:

    Hi Everyone! Just got the pull ahead program email and I'm looking into a new Kia. What are the numbers for Hybrid EX, SX and SXL trims for 24/12 and 36/10 in 02119? Thanks!

    EX Hybrid
    .00185 MF and 48% residual. $9440 lease cash
    .00181 MF and 43% residual. $8960 lease cash
    SX
    .00151 and 55%. $7040
    .00179 and 50%. $6360
    SXL
    .00146 and 53%. $8840
    .00183 and 48%. $8060
    Thank you! With these numbers, it looks like the SXL might lease slightly cheaper if you are given the same discount.
  • Omar StabenOmar Staben Member Posts: 55
    edited November 2017
    Hello there!

    Would I please be able to get residuals and MF for these models in Southern California ( 36/12000 miles):


    Kia optima lx, lx turbo and hybrid premium.

    Thank you!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 264,519
    tenchis said:

    Hello there!

    Would I please be able to get residuals and MF for these models in Southern California ( 36/12000 miles):


    Kia optima lx, lx turbo and hybrid premium.

    Thank you!

    LX - .00185 and 49%; $5430 lease cash
    LX-T - .00175 and 49%; $5530 lease cash
    EX Hybrid - .00181 and 43%; $8630 lease cash

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  • Omar StabenOmar Staben Member Posts: 55
    Hello!

    I just realized that the 24 month option also seems to be a possibility due to the great lease cash offers by Kia.

    Would I be able to get residuals and MFs 24/12k miles Southern California, for the optima lx and optima lx turbo?

    I am trying to decide between these. Thank you and my apologies for not having asked this in my previous post!


  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,665
    tenchis said:

    Hello!

    I just realized that the 24 month option also seems to be a possibility due to the great lease cash offers by Kia.

    Would I be able to get residuals and MFs 24/12k miles Southern California, for the optima lx and optima lx turbo?

    I am trying to decide between these. Thank you and my apologies for not having asked this in my previous post!


    LX- .00146 MF and 54% residual. $5920 lease cash
    LXT: .00145 MF and 54% residual. $6120 lease cash

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  • barryg88barryg88 Member Posts: 4
    edited November 2017
    Hi there -- thank you all so, so much for your help and information on these. You are invaluable!

    Would it be possible to get the residuals, MF, and incentives for a:

    2017 Kia Optima Hybrid Premium (MSRP: $27,025; Adjusted Cap Cost: $18,098)

    2017 Kia Optima Plug-In Hybrid EX (MSRP: $36,250; Adjusted Cap Cost: $28,612)

    I am located in Los Angeles (Carson, to be exact) and these would be at 24 months and 10K miles. I also would welcome any suggestions for payments. Thank you so, so much!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 264,519
    barryg88 said:

    Hi there -- thank you all so, so much for your help and information on these. You are invaluable!

    Would it be possible to get the residuals, MF, and incentives for a:

    2017 Kia Optima Hybrid Premium (MSRP: $27,025; Adjusted Cap Cost: $18,098)

    2017 Kia Optima Plug-In Hybrid EX (MSRP: $36,250; Adjusted Cap Cost: $28,612)

    I am located in Los Angeles (Carson, to be exact) and these would be at 24 months and 10K miles. I also would welcome any suggestions for payments. Thank you so, so much!

    No 24/10 allowance, from Kia. 24/12 numbers are as follows:

    Hybrid EX - .00185 and 48%; $9220 lease cash
    Plug In EX - .00188 and 47%; $12,739 lease cash

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  • barryg88barryg88 Member Posts: 4
    edited November 2017
    Michaell -- thank you so much. I really appreciate your quick response. I was not sure about 24/10 from Kia and will keep that in mind. Thank you again!
  • raymos24raymos24 Member Posts: 166
    Hi again! Would I be able to get the numbers for a LX-Turbo in 02119 for 24/12 and 36/10? Thank you so much!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 264,519
    raymos24 said:

    Hi again! Would I be able to get the numbers for a LX-Turbo in 02119 for 24/12 and 36/10? Thank you so much!

    24/12 - .00145 and 54%; $6340 lease cash
    36/10 - .00175 and 50%; $5860 lease cash

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  • Omar StabenOmar Staben Member Posts: 55
    Hello, I was wondering if this deal looks alright given the numbers provided.

    I am surprised that for this month, the MF seems a bit high. It appears to be hovering in the high 3- low 4% area when I previously have been able to get great lease cash deal ~$4000+ and get low money factor (under 2%). Is there a specific reason why this is? Since the 2017's are on their way out, you'd think there would be low MF....Oh well, Here it is:


    MSRP= 26890
    Sales Price= 23664 ~%12 discount
    Taxed Incentives= $8630
    Untaxed Incentives= 0
    Down Payment= 0
    Acquisition fee/bank fee= $595
    Net cap cost (Gross) = 15034
    Miles/per year = 12,000
    Residual value = $11562 @43%
    Months = 36
    Base monthly payment = $96
    Money factor= .00181
    Monthly Payment (with interest; excl. tax.) = $144
    Sales tax= ~9%
    Monthly Payment (with interest; incl. tax) = $~157
    Document fee: $80
    License/reg. fee= 230

    Drive off:
    First month payment (incl. tax) = $157
    Registration & Doc fee= $310
    Tax on cap cost reduction=$635
    $777 + 310 + 157 = 1244/36 = ~$34
    Final monthly payment: $191
    Total Lease Cost = $6876
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 264,519
    tenchis said:

    Hello, I was wondering if this deal looks alright given the numbers provided.

    I am surprised that for this month, the MF seems a bit high. It appears to be hovering in the high 3- low 4% area when I previously have been able to get great lease cash deal ~$4000+ and get low money factor (under 2%). Is there a specific reason why this is? Since the 2017's are on their way out, you'd think there would be low MF....Oh well, Here it is:


    MSRP= 26890
    Sales Price= 23664 ~%12 discount
    Taxed Incentives= $8630
    Untaxed Incentives= 0
    Down Payment= 0
    Acquisition fee/bank fee= $595
    Net cap cost (Gross) = 15034
    Miles/per year = 12,000
    Residual value = $11562 @43%
    Months = 36
    Base monthly payment = $96
    Money factor= .00181
    Monthly Payment (with interest; excl. tax.) = $144
    Sales tax= ~9%
    Monthly Payment (with interest; incl. tax) = $~157
    Document fee: $80
    License/reg. fee= 230

    Drive off:
    First month payment (incl. tax) = $157
    Registration & Doc fee= $310
    Tax on cap cost reduction=$635
    $777 + 310 + 157 = 1244/36 = ~$34
    Final monthly payment: $191
    Total Lease Cost = $6876

    Are the drive off costs being added into the lease payment or are you paying them up front?

    If you are adding them into the payment, they are subject to interest, so the math is off by a little bit - the cap cost is $16,278 and the final payment with tax is about $198/mo

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  • Omar StabenOmar Staben Member Posts: 55
    Michaell said:

    tenchis said:

    Hello, I was wondering if this deal looks alright given the numbers provided.

    I am surprised that for this month, the MF seems a bit high. It appears to be hovering in the high 3- low 4% area when I previously have been able to get great lease cash deal ~$4000+ and get low money factor (under 2%). Is there a specific reason why this is? Since the 2017's are on their way out, you'd think there would be low MF....Oh well, Here it is:


    MSRP= 26890
    Sales Price= 23664 ~%12 discount
    Taxed Incentives= $8630
    Untaxed Incentives= 0
    Down Payment= 0
    Acquisition fee/bank fee= $595
    Net cap cost (Gross) = 15034
    Miles/per year = 12,000
    Residual value = $11562 @43%
    Months = 36
    Base monthly payment = $96
    Money factor= .00181
    Monthly Payment (with interest; excl. tax.) = $144
    Sales tax= ~9%
    Monthly Payment (with interest; incl. tax) = $~157
    Document fee: $80
    License/reg. fee= 230

    Drive off:
    First month payment (incl. tax) = $157
    Registration & Doc fee= $310
    Tax on cap cost reduction=$635
    $777 + 310 + 157 = 1244/36 = ~$34
    Final monthly payment: $191
    Total Lease Cost = $6876

    Are the drive off costs being added into the lease payment or are you paying them up front?

    If you are adding them into the payment, they are subject to interest, so the math is off by a little bit - the cap cost is $16,278 and the final payment with tax is about $198/mo
    Ahhh, got it! My mistake. Yes, I am adding them to the lease payment... I also forgot to mention this is for the Kia Optima Hybrid! But I think you might have figured it out. Thanks for pointing out that detail!

  • raymos24raymos24 Member Posts: 166
    tenchis said:

    Hello, I was wondering if this deal looks alright given the numbers provided.

    I am surprised that for this month, the MF seems a bit high. It appears to be hovering in the high 3- low 4% area when I previously have been able to get great lease cash deal ~$4000+ and get low money factor (under 2%). Is there a specific reason why this is? Since the 2017's are on their way out, you'd think there would be low MF....Oh well, Here it is:


    MSRP= 26890
    Sales Price= 23664 ~%12 discount
    Taxed Incentives= $8630
    Untaxed Incentives= 0
    Down Payment= 0
    Acquisition fee/bank fee= $595
    Net cap cost (Gross) = 15034
    Miles/per year = 12,000
    Residual value = $11562 @43%
    Months = 36
    Base monthly payment = $96
    Money factor= .00181
    Monthly Payment (with interest; excl. tax.) = $144
    Sales tax= ~9%
    Monthly Payment (with interest; incl. tax) = $~157
    Document fee: $80
    License/reg. fee= 230

    Drive off:
    First month payment (incl. tax) = $157
    Registration & Doc fee= $310
    Tax on cap cost reduction=$635
    $777 + 310 + 157 = 1244/36 = ~$34
    Final monthly payment: $191
    Total Lease Cost = $6876

    Great job getting that much off of MSRP! I agree with you that the Money Factor is really hindering us when trying to make a good deal. I believe these programs will be around until January 2018 and we may see the low money factor numbers again when programs are updated. Just for comparison, a 2016 Optima SXL had a MF of .00017 around April of this year. My guess is that after Dec. 31st, we will see very low money factor on leftover 2017 models.
  • AJ415AJ415 Member Posts: 17
    Hi. Can I get the numbers for both the EX and Hybrid in 95125 for 24/12, 24/15 and 36/12, 36/15? Thanks.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,665
    AJ415 said:

    Hi. Can I get the numbers for both the EX and Hybrid in 95125 for 24/12, 24/15 and 36/12, 36/15? Thanks.

    EX
    24/12: .00152 MF and 54% residual. $6220 lease cash
    36/12: .00179 MF and 49% residual. $5530 lease cash
    Hybrid
    24/12: .00176 MF and 48% residual. $7920 lease cash
    36/12: .00184 MF and 43% residual. $7530 lease cash

    Subtract 2% for 15K/yr

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  • evoicevoic Member Posts: 22
    Michaell said:

    evoic said:

    I'm trying to determine money factor and residual on 2017 Optima Hybrid base.
    36 month / 12k & 15k / SoCal.

    Thank you!

    36/12 - .00058 and 45%; $6500 lease cash
    Subtract 2% for 15K
    I thanked you previously, but I wanted to follow up with you to show the deal I actually got after I used the info you provided to negotiate with the dealership.

    Let me know how I did on a scale of 1-100.
    I was moving out of a lease on a 2015 EX with 4 payments left, totaling $925.
    The dealership took care of that and moved me into a 2017 Hybrid base with 15k per.

    Suggested retail: $31,205 after mark-ups
    MSRP: 27,898
    Gross cap cost: $25,394.51
    Cap cost reduction: $7,985.27 (Rebates & Non-cash credits: $8,530 + $700 paid in cash = $9,230)
    Adjusted Cap cost: $17,409.24
    Residual: 11,080.25
    Depreciation: $6,328.99
    Rent charge: $1,887.29
    Total of base monthly payments: $8,216.28
    Payments: 36
    Base Monthly: $228.23
    Monthly Sales/Use Tax: $17.69
    Total monthly payment: $245.92

    I'm happy with the car and I'm happy with the payment, which is all that matters at the end of the day, but I'm curious how much my effort tilted things in my favor.
    Your help is appreciated, tremendously.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 264,519
    evoic said:

    Michaell said:

    evoic said:

    I'm trying to determine money factor and residual on 2017 Optima Hybrid base.
    36 month / 12k & 15k / SoCal.

    Thank you!

    36/12 - .00058 and 45%; $6500 lease cash
    Subtract 2% for 15K
    I thanked you previously, but I wanted to follow up with you to show the deal I actually got after I used the info you provided to negotiate with the dealership.

    Let me know how I did on a scale of 1-100.
    I was moving out of a lease on a 2015 EX with 4 payments left, totaling $925.
    The dealership took care of that and moved me into a 2017 Hybrid base with 15k per.

    Suggested retail: $31,205 after mark-ups
    MSRP: 27,898
    Gross cap cost: $25,394.51
    Cap cost reduction: $7,985.27 (Rebates & Non-cash credits: $8,530 + $700 paid in cash = $9,230)
    Adjusted Cap cost: $17,409.24
    Residual: 11,080.25
    Depreciation: $6,328.99
    Rent charge: $1,887.29
    Total of base monthly payments: $8,216.28
    Payments: 36
    Base Monthly: $228.23
    Monthly Sales/Use Tax: $17.69
    Total monthly payment: $245.92

    I'm happy with the car and I'm happy with the payment, which is all that matters at the end of the day, but I'm curious how much my effort tilted things in my favor.
    Your help is appreciated, tremendously.
    What is the $3300 that takes the MSRP to the suggested retail price?

    We don't grade the deals, sorry.

    Relative to the sticker price, I'd say you did well.

    Congrats, and enjoy!

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  • evoicevoic Member Posts: 22
    Michaell said:

    evoic said:

    Michaell said:



    What is the $3300 that takes the MSRP to the suggested retail price?

    We don't grade the deals, sorry.

    Relative to the sticker price, I'd say you did well.

    Congrats, and enjoy!

    It was nonsense from the original window decal.
    Market Adjustment: $2,000
    Prep Fee: $999
    Phantom Footprints: $599
    Easy Care Application: $699

    I have no idea what they were thinking......

    Also, my numbers were off on those two lines now that I have them in front of me.
    It should have been MSRP: $27,025
    Dealer's asking price: $31,322.
    Added mark-up: $4,297
    A bit too ambitious as it was still sitting there nearly a year later for me to lease.

    Whatever the case, the car is great and the Hybrid is a nice vehicle. Better than the 2015 EX I had, but feels a little heavier. The acceleration at speed from the extra 80-100 torque makes up for it. :-D
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 264,519
    evoic said:

    Michaell said:

    evoic said:

    Michaell said:



    What is the $3300 that takes the MSRP to the suggested retail price?

    We don't grade the deals, sorry.

    Relative to the sticker price, I'd say you did well.

    Congrats, and enjoy!

    It was nonsense from the original window decal.
    Market Adjustment: $2,000
    Prep Fee: $999
    Phantom Footprints: $599
    Easy Care Application: $699

    I have no idea what they were thinking......

    Also, my numbers were off on those two lines now that I have them in front of me.
    It should have been MSRP: $27,025
    Dealer's asking price: $31,322.
    Added mark-up: $4,297
    A bit too ambitious as it was still sitting there nearly a year later for me to lease.

    Whatever the case, the car is great and the Hybrid is a nice vehicle. Better than the 2015 EX I had, but feels a little heavier. The acceleration at speed from the extra 80-100 torque makes up for it. :-D
    Congrats, and enjoy!

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  • jyksjllhkjyksjllhk Member Posts: 7
    Hi.
    can you give me MF/Residual and any incentives for 2017 Kia Optima Hybrid EX and plugin Hybrid EX in GA?
    i'm looking for 12k/36 months
    thank you.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 264,519
    jyksjllhk said:

    Hi.
    can you give me MF/Residual and any incentives for 2017 Kia Optima Hybrid EX and plugin Hybrid EX in GA?
    i'm looking for 12k/36 months
    thank you.

    Hybrid EX - .00181 and 43%; $8300 lease cash
    EX Plug In Hybrid - .00182 and 42%; $11,919 lease cash

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  • jjuris430jjuris430 Member Posts: 2
    Can you give me MF/Residual and any incentives for 2017 Kia Optima Hybrid EX in AZ?
    i'm looking for 12k/36 and 15k/36. Thank you!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 264,519
    jjuris430 said:

    Can you give me MF/Residual and any incentives for 2017 Kia Optima Hybrid EX in AZ?
    i'm looking for 12k/36 and 15k/36. Thank you!

    .00181 and 43% / 41%
    $8300 lease cash

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  • raymos24raymos24 Member Posts: 166
    Hi! Last time I asked for numbers, the programs were good until the end of the year. Have there been any changed to the numbers for a SX trim for 24/12 in 02119? Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,665
    raymos24 said:

    Hi! Last time I asked for numbers, the programs were good until the end of the year. Have there been any changed to the numbers for a SX trim for 24/12 in 02119? Thanks!

    Nope

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  • ovaronaovarona Member Posts: 1
    Hi, looking for MF, residual and rebates for 2018 Optima SX in Miami, FL. Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 264,519
    ovarona said:

    Hi, looking for MF, residual and rebates for 2018 Optima SX in Miami, FL. Thanks!

    What lease term and how many miles per year?

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