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I'm trying to make sense of this. I don't understand where the $27360 number comes from. Shouldn't that have been $26,641 on the pink sheet?
What number were you expecting on the long form?
If you've signed the paperwork and taken delivery, there isn't much anyone can do now.
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Secondly the "Rent Charge". I see $16.22. Shouldn't that have been $8.11?
Rent charge checks out to within a penny. The formula is (adj. cap. cost + residual) * MF * term. ($27,691.42 + $17,394.00) * .00001 * 36 = $16.23.
$27,360 minus $860 in rebates = $26,500.
The rent charge is the monthly rent charge X lease term.
$0.45 X 36 = $16.20
The pink sheet doesn't include the acquisition fee.
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What he said.
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What do you think about it now ?
Not sure you can do much better than that.
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$1780 lease incentive
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$360 lease cash
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It is the first time I lease the car, please excuse my dummy questions.
I've got an initial offer on 2018 GT AWD with Premium package for 24/15 (60089, 7% tax county)
MSRP $33,590
Internet Price $31,866
$595 Acquisition fee/$299 dealer fee
$32,760 Adjusted capitalized cost
24 month lease 15,000 miles per year
$490's payment with tax (460 + 32)
$22,505 residual
.00075 money Factor
$657 due at signing
I feel this initial offer is not good at all. Could you please advise marked up points here?
The monthly payment tends to be a bit higher for 24-month vs. 36-month leases for two reasons:
1. The vehicle depreciates more in the first 2 years than later years, so you don't get the benefit of spreading the large initial depreciation over a longer term. For example your 24-month residual is 67%. A 36-month residual would be 57% or so, so the depreciation is 33% in the first two years and only an additional 10% for the third year.
2. The Money factor is often higher for 24-month terms. For example for a 36-month term you could knock that .00075 MF down to .00001. Your total rent charge with your numbers for 24 months is $994.78, or $41.45/month. With a 36-month term your total rent charge would be $18.69, or $0.52/month.
If you want to lease this vehicle, stick to the 36 month term.
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They have also sent a 36/15 offer:
36 month lease 15,000 miles per year
$390's payment with tax
$19,146 residual
.00001 money Factor
$562 due at signing
The reason why I'm looking for 24 months: initially I planned XC40 via subscription (~$750 with insurance included). I was ok with it, however my lease application was rejected due to credit history age (1 year), despite the credit score was 740.
I need a second vehicle for a short term (24) to qualify for better deal in higher segment (XC40/XC60) in 2 years. My wife's one is VW Tiguan (we share it), which I don't like at all.
Had mazda in the past, this car has all the safety features with smooth ride and does not irritate me while driving (as my current vw tiguan does
Probably it would be a better idea to go with 36 lease from Mazda, sell Tiguan in a few years and lease Volvo instead. Trying to come up with more profitable solution.
Thank you all, you are great.
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What trim?
FWD or AWD?
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59%/57% residual
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AWD sport
AWD touring
Thank you.
$1100 lease cash on Sport only
$360 customer incentive on both
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How badly did I get worked on this deal on a 2018 Grand Touring AWD? (no PP) MSRP was $32515, which I could only seem to talk down to $31,515 to go along with 500 off for my trade-in.
12k/36 $388/month after putting first month + $1348.15 cash down.
I was in kind of a weak negotiating position, as I am currently working out of state and need an SUV before my contract ends in a month. May as well get the one I want, I figured. Of course I didn't allude to these facts, but I don't feel like i got a great deal here. My credit is also pretty poor due to heavy utilization at the moment. A large spike in income beginning 3 months ago is my only saving grace. But I digress.
I'm told MF on this deal was 0.00121 which given my credit score of 634, is in line with what I expected. My math shows it at least being near that, unless I'm completely messing up.
How bad is it?
If you have MF, that’d be great too.
Thanks again.
zip:91748
CX5 FWD basic 12000 mile 36mo term
MSRP 25345
Selling price 24498
residual 57% 14446
money factor:0.0001
rebates:$1780
zero drive off
260/mo with tax included(its like 9.5%)
I think I will try to sign with 15000 mile for 240/mo(tax included) with zero drive off. Is that possible??
They are correct, the money factor is .00121
The base MF is .00001. That lower credit tier added $62/mo. to your payment.
Not a great deal, otherwise, but nothing egregious, either. I would want a bigger discount, and pretty sure you could snag $1200-$1800 for your car, with a little time and craigslist hassle, but the trade-in price was probably fair.
So, you did okay. Just paying for past credit mistakes.
Congrats on the new Mazda!
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36/15: .00001 MF and 57% residual
Add 2% for 12K/yr
No incentives
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.00001 MF and 57% residual
$1780 rebate.
(15K/yr residual is 55%)
That's a really nice deal, if it's truly $0 drive-off.
If I roll in DMV fees, $595 acq.fee, 1st payment, tax on rebate, etc..
I get $266/mo.+tax, which is $30/mo. over your quoted deal.
I doubt you can improve on this deal.
Going to 15K/yr will add about $16/mo.
$240/mo. for 15K/yr is asking them to drop their price by $1300... It never hurts to ask for more, but I don't think that is going to happen.
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Youre totally right about my trade in. I could have sold it for 12-1400 and was planning on it. But when it came down to it, I was glad to be rid of the inconvenience of dealing with craigslist. Especially for just a few hundred dollars. Not to mention time to do the transfer and all of that.
Thanks for looking at it. I’m glad to hear it’s not egregiously bad. Just the expected amount of “bad” due to my credit which is to be expected
At the end of the day I learned a ton. This was my first new car purchase or leasing experience. And I got the exact vehicle I wanted. So I’m happy!
Thanks much!!!
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$360 customer lease cash
Either trim
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$360 customer incentive
Both AWD and FWD
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15,000 miles : $1000 down (includes first month payment), $370/month inclusive of everything
12,000 miles: $1000 down (includes first month payment), $350/month inclusive of everything
There is a difference of $700 between 12k and 15k miles. What do you guys think? I have shopped around for quite a while and seems like this is the best I have so far.
Any thoughts? Will be closing the deal today.