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MSRP of 65750
Sales Price of 62800
36/7.5K
2500 in incentives (loyalty, BMW event thing, lease credit)
Monthly = 800.32 including 6.5% tax, with 3514 down (includes payment of gov't and dealer and about 600 cap cost reduction).
They are wrapping in $925 acquisition fee and $1300 of negative equity on lease (though I want to pay that outside of new lease instead of capitalizing).
Their math seems a little off, but guess really the issue is the 4.5% discount, plus incentives. That seems like a pretty mediocre deal to me.
Thoughts?
Not much to like about this deal.
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$3500 down represents your negative equity, acquisition fee, 1st month, motor vehicle fee, and miscellaneous fees. You know what residual and money factor are from this site. What is the invoice on this vehicle? Once you have this, deduct the $2500 in incentives. This will allow you to see the true discount. I do not like your deal. Now I will tell you because of low supply and high demand, the X5 deals are terrible at this time.
Look on dealers site for your vehicle. Go to edmunds build your vehicle and plug in your vehicle with options and should have invoice price. The $2500 is your money from BMW. Invoice minus $2500 allows you to assess better what your true discount is. This is why you need a breakdown. The other variable you must know is money factor the dealership is using which they often try to jack up. The residual is a set number based on number of years you lease and miles per year. I personally walked away from 3 potential lease on the X5 in December one being a demo as the price was ridiculous. I knew what they were doing with discount, lease cash and money factor. The internet manger from one of the dealerships was very nice and told me they have enough customers paying what I called inflated prices. They dd not need my business.
BMW insisted it was base money factor, but I couldn’t get to the calc without adding a little extra there, so I suspect they were too.
Sounds like same problem here, too easy to sell for premium prices. I’ll just ride it out until production bumps up or go for a better leasing vehicle.
I am looking for the MF, RV and current incentives for a 2021 X5 for 36/10 in 94087.
Thank you very much.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
$500 lease credit
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
.00086 and 55%
$500 lease credit
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.00086 MF and 54% residual
$500 lease credit
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.00086 MF and 51% residual
$500 lease credit
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2021 X5 xdrive 40i
01864 - zip code
77,750 - MSRP
0 capital cost deduction and just fees upfront. I believe around 2700 in total.
.0096 money factor. I know this a hair marked up, but with this deal, they aren't budging on this piece.
$929/month including Mass taxes of 6.5%.
15k miles per year.
Thank you,
-John
Adjusted cap cost?
Get the itemization of the $2700 up front monies.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
Sale Price - 68,900
1500 incentives.
I just requested what is in the 2700 upfront. Feel like a good deal.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
I’m sorry! XDrive 40i
36 MO Lease/15k Miles
Money Factor for both = .00126
2021 X5M
2021 X5 with M Package
Appreciate the help!
$500 lease credit
7 MSDs @ .00005 reduction each
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.00126 represents the max markup the dealer can make.
Insist on the base MF.
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55% vs. 51%
They changed it within the last year.
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Also I got 10% off so is it good?
can I get rough monthly payment based on MSRP $118,695 and sale price with 10% off $106,825.50 plus doc fee $500 and aquisition $925. Term 36/10. Zip 80022. Sales tax 8.5%. 0 down . Due at sign first monthly payment only. Dealer told me $1430. MF .00086, res 55%. Res value $65282. Go for it??
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.00086 and 54%
With the prices given, $1492/mo with tax included.
If you're happy with the discount, I don't see anything wrong with the deal.
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First is MF and residual accurate? And this discount doesn’t look that significant given the federal tax credit but I’ve never lease or negotiated an EV - so maybe this is fair?
00126 Money Factor
51% Residual
MSRP: $71,695
DISCOUNT: -$5,700
SELLING PRICE: $65,995
CAP ITEMS: $1,227 (LEMON LAW+AQUISITION FEE+VIN ETCH)
$500 BMW lease rebate
CAP COST: $66,722
With the prices given, $1492/mo with tax included.
If you're happy with the discount, I don't see anything wrong with the deal.
Thanks Mike! So residual dropped from 55 in Feb to 54 % for March? Working on this with Gebhard in Boulder😉
BMW doesn't pass along the federal tax credit to you - the bank gets it, as they are the owner of the vehicle.
I'd start by insisting on the base MF.
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Yes, residual dropped by 1%.
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.00086 and 54%
$500 lease credit
Longer terms not supported.
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Watch out for part shortages [HUD, Harman Kardon, Glass Controls, Air Suspension] if you order a custom build.
When price shopping, ask for the discount first then after receiving that, insist on base MF for a lease.
I also suggest doing research on the cost of adding lease protection. Lease protection means you do not have to return vehicle with new tires. Don't over pay for lease protection. Ask your sales guy to include that in the numbers before visiting with the finance guy.
Thank you. The 51% is accurate on the residual as well?
Assuming I can get the base MF. How’s this deal looking? Seems like a decent discount on msrp for a hard to find vehicle.
Appreciate the insights.
We don't track pricing, so no idea how low you can get the selling price.
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Trying to calculate deals on each and want to confirm the pricing I’m seeing.
.00086 and 51%
$500 lease credit
Either model
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