Edmunds Members - Cars and Conversations

mjfloyd1

@jipster said:
Forgot to pack a lunch, weren't really looking to buy today. But, I was starving, the dealership had the upper hand, so we left a refundable deposit.

The car had been traded in today. Has not been inspected or serviced. The salesman was wanting to finalize the deal. We said we'd wait for the inspection...and I really hadn't researched much. He pouted a bit, but was o.k. with reassurance.

We test drove several Honda CR-V's. But, I and Mrs. Jip liked the bigger Passport. Didn't really care to spend $45k to buy new. The salesman is suppose to call in 3-4 days when the car is ready.

The miles were a bit concerning, but has had timely oil changes and has the big V6 engine which is rated well.

Assuming it is a V6, you will need timing belt and water pump at around 105k miles

xwesx

stickguy said:

ab348 said:

stickguy said:

that is kinda awful.

The new Outback, especially in the Wilderness trim, is hideously ugly, a rival to the Aztec.

I meant the Hyundai. The Subaru, I need to see that in person but in pictures it does seem a bit clunky and awkward.

The Hyundai is getting to looking a lot like the Ford Flex. That was an excellent design.

corvette

kyfdx said:

You'd save enough on electric to buy the cheapest fridge at Lowe's, than running two little dorm fridges

To quote The Talking Heads, "stop making sense." (Also, I don't think there's enough width for two dorm room fridges, but I can't let small details like that get in the way of my plans...)

jipster

@abacomike said:

@jipster said:

@oldfarmer50 said:
Wait, an old hand like you is willing to trust a dealer’s inspection? If the inspection discovers that the engine burns the oil or that the transmission skips like a kid on the way to school, will the price be the same? Will they even tell you?

I thought about that. lol. I checked it out as best I could. Oil good. No leaks. Climbed under the undercarriage. Clean. No rust. No damage. Took it for a long test drive on side streets and expressway. Strong acceleration. Smooth shifts.

But, I'm expecting they may try to raise the price for any maintenance performed. If anything semi-serious is wrong we'll pass.
I've had my Accord serviced at this dealership (Honda World) for 5 years. Don't seem as sleasy as some others.

The financing guy did come over. Thought we were buying today. Said he could get us a 5 year/50k mile extended warranty. Said he'd work with us on price. Mrs. Jip asked how much. Guy said he could get it down from $4k to $3k...maybe $2.8k.

5 year warranty for $2800 sounds great - but is it a HONDA extended warranty or a third party warranty? What’s covered and what’s not covered? Any deductibles and if so what are the deductibles? Is a car rental included if the vehicle is going to be in service for more than a day or two?

Remember, I was in the car business and am always a kind of “detail” person when it comes to extended warranties.

Third party warranty. $100 deductible. Said it covers everything. I don't recall the name of the company, but the finance guy said it was the 3rd highest rated company with so much money set aside in reserves. Didn't mention if rental was included, I'll ask. Thx.
I really hadn't planned on any warranty, but Mrs. Jip asked about it.

jipster

@explorerx4 said:
@jipster,
Did some searching to find Honda Care(Manufacturer) warranties.
Found this but only available for 2022 and up. Umm, ok.
https://www.curryhondacare.com/

Yeah, would definitely feel better if warranty was thru Honda. Thx.

explorerx4

@jipster,
Don't ever buy a 3rd party warranty. Set the money aside instead. Manufacturer warranty or nothing.

abacomike

My daughter bought a Berkshire Hathaway extended warranty and was very satisfied with them. And we know who is behind Berkshire Hathaway, don’t we?

It was on her Honda Civic that I helped her buy back in 2020. You might find that it is available at Honda dealerships.

Just trying to help.

jipster

@stickguy said:
when I do have my wife involved (meaning it is for her car) she will go to look and test drive to decide if she wants it. But once that decision is made, and a color picked out, she wants nothing to do the sausage making process. Just tell her when we have to go sign papers and pick it up.

At this point, she would never agree to a used car though, so it makes the process a lot easier not having to deal with all the used car drama. Just costs more! Though quite likely whenever she does get a new car, it will be the last one since by the time it would need replacement many years down the road we would not still be having 2.

Would have preferred to buy new, and even encouaged it. But sometimes Mrs. Jip is more of a jip than I.

jipster

@mjfloyd1 said:

@jipster said:
Forgot to pack a lunch, weren't really looking to buy today. But, I was starving, the dealership had the upper hand, so we left a refundable deposit.

The car had been traded in today. Has not been inspected or serviced. The salesman was wanting to finalize the deal. We said we'd wait for the inspection...and I really hadn't researched much. He pouted a bit, but was o.k. with reassurance.

We test drove several Honda CR-V's. But, I and Mrs. Jip liked the bigger Passport. Didn't really care to spend $45k to buy new. The salesman is suppose to call in 3-4 days when the car is ready.

The miles were a bit concerning, but has had timely oil changes and has the big V6 engine which is rated well.

Assuming it is a V6, you will need timing belt and water pump at around 105k miles

Didn't know that. Assumed it had a timing chain. Alexa says that will cost around $650.

jipster

@jipster said:

@mjfloyd1 said:

@jipster said:
Forgot to pack a lunch, weren't really looking to buy today. But, I was starving, the dealership had the upper hand, so we left a refundable deposit.

The car had been traded in today. Has not been inspected or serviced. The salesman was wanting to finalize the deal. We said we'd wait for the inspection...and I really hadn't researched much. He pouted a bit, but was o.k. with reassurance.

We test drove several Honda CR-V's. But, I and Mrs. Jip liked the bigger Passport. Didn't really care to spend $45k to buy new. The salesman is suppose to call in 3-4 days when the car is ready.

The miles were a bit concerning, but has had timely oil changes and has the big V6 engine which is rated well.

Assuming it is a V6, you will need timing belt and water pump at around 105k miles

Didn't know that. Assumed it had a timing chain. Alexa says that will cost around $650.

$440 for water pump.

roadburner

I bought the Jeep Maximum Care (bumper to bumper) warranty for the Sahara. 8 years/75,000 miles, $100 deductible for $1,755 ($50 over dealer cost). I bought it from a Jeep dealer in Kalamazoo, MI.

roadburner

Speaking of the Sahara, I don't know what it is about Wranglers, but I can't resist modding them. My 1999 had Hella E-Code headlamps, a Banks Torque Tube header, Bilstein shocks, and MB Quart speakers.
So, while I'm still waiting on the availability of the Pirelli Scorpion XTMs I decided to upgrade the steering stabilizer- I ordered an AEV/Bilstein stabilizer. I was getting a bit of wheel shimmy on bumps at highway speeds. The OEM stabilizer failed at 20k miles and was replaced under warranty, so I'm looking forward to installing it.

stickguy

I will decide this time next year if I am going to commit to keeping the current Maverick forever (or at least a long time). If so, will look into a Ford ESP from Granger (or one of the online dealers that sell them cheap). The good thing for me is that I put on low miles, so can get a cheaper policy with low miles for the years. Something like 10 years, 75K miles if they offer it.

oldfarmer50

abacomike said:

@jipster said:

@oldfarmer50 said:

Wait, an old hand like you is willing to trust a dealer’s inspection? If the inspection discovers that the engine burns the oil or that the transmission skips like a kid on the way to school, will the price be the same? Will they even tell you?

I thought about that. lol. I checked it out as best I could. Oil good. No leaks. Climbed under the undercarriage. Clean. No rust. No damage. Took it for a long test drive on side streets and expressway. Strong acceleration. Smooth shifts.

But, I'm expecting they may try to raise the price for any maintenance performed. If anything semi-serious is wrong we'll pass.

I've had my Accord serviced at this dealership (Honda World) for 5 years. Don't seem as sleasy as some others.

The financing guy did come over. Thought we were buying today. Said he could get us a 5 year/50k mile extended warranty. Said he'd work with us on price. Mrs. Jip asked how much. Guy said he could get it down from $4k to $3k...maybe $2.8k. " alt="" height="20" />

5 year warranty for $2800 sounds great - but is it a HONDA extended warranty or a third party warranty? What’s covered and what’s not covered? Any deductibles and if so what are the deductibles? Is a car rental included if the vehicle is going to be in service for more than a day or two?

Remember, I was in the car business and am always a kind of “detail” person when it comes to extended warranties.

Any time i was offered an extended warranty i wanted to see the exclusions page first. I was always amazed what they DIDN’T cover.

oldfarmer50

jipster said:

@mjfloyd1 said:

@jipster said:

Forgot to pack a lunch, weren't really looking to buy today. " alt="" height="20" /> But, I was starving, the dealership had the upper hand, so we left a refundable deposit.

The car had been traded in today. Has not been inspected or serviced. The salesman was wanting to finalize the deal. We said we'd wait for the inspection...and I really hadn't researched much. He pouted a bit, but was o.k. with reassurance.

We test drove several Honda CR-V's. But, I and Mrs. Jip liked the bigger Passport. Didn't really care to spend $45k to buy new. The salesman is suppose to call in 3-4 days when the car is ready.

The miles were a bit concerning, but has had timely oil changes and has the big V6 engine which is rated well.

Assuming it is a V6, you will need timing belt and water pump at around 105k miles

Didn't know that. Assumed it had a timing chain. Alexa says that will cost around $650.

I haven’t heard of getting a timing belt replaced for under $1000 in a long time but maybe Hondas have a simpler system so what do I know.

jipster

@oldfarmer50 said:
I haven’t heard of getting a timing belt replaced for under $1000 in a long time but maybe Hondas have a simpler system so what do I know.

I'll have to call and ask the dealership. In looking further some estimates were much higher.

ab348

I saw a new Maverick on the road this week in their new green paint color. It's a nice shade of green. I somehow doubt it will have a very high take rate though in a world of gray vehicles.

graphicguy

I'm a Honda/Acura fan boy. So, take that into consideration. I REALLY love that 3.5L V6. Had it in two TLs. Just smooth, torquey, quiet.

Not sure about extended warranty. I've never bought one. But, whenever I had major service done (which wasn't often recently given my propensity to trade out before it's due), I always seemed to get a coupon from the dealer that gave me a pretty fair discount on things like AWD service and timing chain replacements. An extended warranty won't cover required service, though.

As such, given the general nature of Hondas, not sure I'd write a check for an extended warranty if see vice records are good.

corvette

@stickguy - I'm leaning in the same direction on my Maverick (10 year OE extended warranty through Granger). Picking the number of miles will be tough depending on whether I plan to keep an EV that I daily drive in the fleet some or all of the time.

stickguy

I am a month short of 2 years on it at about 8600 miles. Maybe when I retire they start racking up faster but I doubt I will need more than the minimum

My bigger concern is committing to something that long but I could always demote it to beater truck status and park it outside and get a sports car for the garage!

jmonroe1

oldfarmer50 said:

jipster said:

@mjfloyd1 said:

@jipster said:

Forgot to pack a lunch, weren't really looking to buy today. " alt="" height="20" /> But, I was starving, the dealership had the upper hand, so we left a refundable deposit.

The car had been traded in today. Has not been inspected or serviced. The salesman was wanting to finalize the deal. We said we'd wait for the inspection...and I really hadn't researched much. He pouted a bit, but was o.k. with reassurance.

We test drove several Honda CR-V's. But, I and Mrs. Jip liked the bigger Passport. Didn't really care to spend $45k to buy new. The salesman is suppose to call in 3-4 days when the car is ready.

The miles were a bit concerning, but has had timely oil changes and has the big V6 engine which is rated well.

Assuming it is a V6, you will need timing belt and water pump at around 105k miles

Didn't know that. Assumed it had a timing chain. Alexa says that will cost around $650.

I haven’t heard of getting a timing belt replaced for under $1000 in a long time but maybe Hondas have a simpler system so what do I know.
————————————————
That’s what we’ve been wondering since you got here.

jmonroe

stickguy

It’s been a decade since I had a Honda V6 and pretty sure even then it was in the $1,200 range for a belt and water pump (basic package) at the dealer.

driver100

The E400 is 8 years old and I was considering taking it to an indie shop for an A Service visit, basically an oil change. Then I thought, what if there was a recall, and it is probably a good idea to keep the records up at the dealer, and to be a good customer as I think I get priority service.
They only did the A service, but they also did a major software enhancement from a silent recall....glad I went in.
They gave me a report on how much tire tread and brake pads I had left. And I have the peace of mind that it was all done right and was thoroughly checked out.
And, I even got a real brewed coffee with a little cookie and a nice wash job for my $700.

jmonroe1

driver100 said:

The E400 is 8 years old and I was considering taking it to an indie shop for an A Service visit, basically an oil change. Then I thought, what if there was a recall, and it is probably a good idea to keep the records up at the dealer, and to be a good customer as I think I get priority service.
They only did the A service, but they also did a major software enhancement from a silent recall....glad I went in.
They gave me a report on how much tire tread and brake pads I had left. And I have the peace of mind that it was all done right and was thoroughly checked out.
And, I even got a real brewed coffee with a little cookie and a nice wash job for my $700.

————————————————
For 700 bucks they should have sent you home with a dozen cookies and a quart of coffee.

jmonroe

imidazol97

driver100 said:

The E400 is 8 years old and I was considering taking it to an indie shop for an A Service visit, basically an oil change. Then I thought, what if there was a recall, and it is probably a good idea to keep the records up at the dealer, and to be a good customer as I think I get priority service.
They only did the A service, but they also did a major software enhancement from a silent recall....glad I went in.
They gave me a report on how much tire tread and brake pads I had left. And I have the peace of mind that it was all done right and was thoroughly checked out.
And, I even got a real brewed coffee with a little cookie and a nice wash job for my $700.

Sounds like the wallet got the "wash job." Or, at least, a flush.

qbrozen

@graphicguy said:
I'm a Honda/Acura fan boy. So, take that into consideration. I REALLY love that 3.5L V6. Had it in two TLs. Just smooth, torquey, quiet.

Not sure about extended warranty. I've never bought one. But, whenever I had major service done (which wasn't often recently given my propensity to trade out before it's due), I always seemed to get a coupon from the dealer that gave me a pretty fair discount on things like AWD service and timing chain replacements. An extended warranty won't cover required service, though.

As such, given the general nature of Hondas, not sure I'd write a check for an extended warranty if see vice records are good.

Engine may have been good, but they had a block of years there with questionable transmissions paired with that engine.

imidazol97

https://www.wired.com/2008/06/june-26-1974-by-gum-theres-a-new-way-to-buy-gum/

Troy OH! A few miles up the road from here in the Crossroads of American area. LOL

driver100

jmonroe1 said:

driver100 said:

The E400 is 8 years old and I was considering taking it to an indie shop for an A Service visit, basically an oil change. Then I thought, what if there was a recall, and it is probably a good idea to keep the records up at the dealer, and to be a good customer as I think I get priority service.
They only did the A service, but they also did a major software enhancement from a silent recall....glad I went in.
They gave me a report on how much tire tread and brake pads I had left. And I have the peace of mind that it was all done right and was thoroughly checked out.
And, I even got a real brewed coffee with a little cookie and a nice wash job for my $700.

————————————————
For 700 bucks they should have sent you home with a dozen cookies and a quart of coffee.

jmonroe

@imidazol97 Don't forget, $700 CDN is like $450 USD!
Maybe 1/2 doz cookies and pint of coffee.

tjc78

So went back to the eye doctor today and they went over everything again. Apparently my corneas (especially the left eye) are in rough shape.

She prescribed some special eye drops to repair the damage/dryness.

We narrowed it down to overuse of contacts and my CPAP machine. Never realized one has anything to do with the other but apparently it’s pretty common. I also stopped using water in mine awhile ago and I read it’s good to do that so the air around your face is more moist. I never noticed a difference with the water and the doc said if you don’t notice a difference without it’s fine so that was the direction I headed.

I think my contact wearing days may be over … and I’m not happy about it

jwm40517

When we bought the 2009 Honda Oddy van we got real Honda Care warranty in the longest version offered. I believe it was 8 years and 120k miles for about $1,200. and used it a lot saving thousands of $. Had an engine rebuild at 81k, we paid for new timing belt and water pump parts only since they were in there anyway. AC, alternator, power steering hose and pump and several more.
Back then there were a few dealers in the Northeast that sold them for cost, I asked how they did that and the sales guy said that they sold so many that Honda sent them a bonus check each quarter for $250,000 to $300,000. It appeared to be legit as when I turned down the finance guys offer of $2800 and said I could get one for $1200 he said that was impossible as that was his cost.

jmonroe1

driver100 said:

jmonroe1 said:

driver100 said:

The E400 is 8 years old and I was considering taking it to an indie shop for an A Service visit, basically an oil change. Then I thought, what if there was a recall, and it is probably a good idea to keep the records up at the dealer, and to be a good customer as I think I get priority service.
They only did the A service, but they also did a major software enhancement from a silent recall....glad I went in.
They gave me a report on how much tire tread and brake pads I had left. And I have the peace of mind that it was all done right and was thoroughly checked out.
And, I even got a real brewed coffee with a little cookie and a nice wash job for my $700.

————————————————
For 700 bucks they should have sent you home with a dozen cookies and a quart of coffee.

jmonroe

@imidazol97 Don't forget, $700 CDN is like $450 USD!
Maybe 1/2 doz cookies and pint of coffee.

————————————————-
Yeah, @imidazol97 never could remember how to do the Canadian to US conversion.

jmonroe

stickguy

Ok, but $450 for an oil change is still crazy.

Reminds me that I was talking with my BIL last weekend. He has a Jag (F type? The mid sized 4 door). Supercharged. About a 2016. Anyway, the dealer charges some silly price for an oil change so he decided to do it himself. He said it is 15 minutes tops. And all from the top. No drain plug so you stick a suction tube down the dipstick tube to suck the oil out. Filter is a top mount cartridge so unscrew the cap and swap in a new element (which are pretty cheap). Then put new oil in it.

jmonroe1

tjc78 said:

So went back to the eye doctor today and they went over everything again. Apparently my corneas (especially the left eye) are in rough shape.

She prescribed some special eye drops to repair the damage/dryness.

We narrowed it down to overuse of contacts and my CPAP machine. Never realized one has anything to do with the other but apparently it’s pretty common. I also stopped using water in mine awhile ago and I read it’s good to do that so the air around your face is more moist. I never noticed a difference with the water and the doc said if you don’t notice a difference without it’s fine so that was the direction I headed.

I think my contact wearing days may be over … and I’m not happy about it

————————————————
That sounds good and good to hear that you got to cause of your discomfort. Just curious but was this an ophthalmologist you went to? So, I take it that you don’t have to scrap your new glasses.

jmonroe

jmonroe1

stickguy said:

Ok, but $450 for an oil change is still crazy.

Reminds me that I was talking with my BIL last weekend. He has a Jag (F type? The mid sized 4 door). Supercharged. About a 2016. Anyway, the dealer charges some silly price for an oil change so he decided to do it himself. He said it is 15 minutes tops. And all from the top. No drain plug so you stick a suction tube down the dipstick tube to suck the oil out. Filter is a top mount cartridge so unscrew the cap and swap in a new element (which are pretty cheap). Then put new oil in it.

————————————————
Damn. Sounds like the birth of another shade tree mechanic. Or at least an oil changer. Rip off prices will do that to a guy.

I seem to remember that’s what got me started. That and the convenience of not having to run back and forth to shops and then having to fix their screw-ups.

jmonroe

stickguy

he has tools and equipment to do it. Bought a welder to fix things, and has his own 2 post lift, so does quite a bit of stuff (including brakes on the Jag, that will save a lot of $$) Same guy that has a Cobra kit car.

corvette

A lot of Honda guys say there’s no need to change the water pump or tensioner when doing the belt on the V6 (whereas they would on other brands).

@stickguy - I think Ford will give a prorated refund of the extended warranty if you sell or trade the Mav before the ten years are up.

stickguy

given the cost of the pump and tensioner, seems foolish to not just do them "while you are in there". along with every seal and gasket that is exposed. Only want to open up the front end of the engine once!

mjfloyd1

@roadburner said:
I bought the Jeep Maximum Care (bumper to bumper) warranty for the Sahara. 8 years/75,000 miles, $100 deductible for $1,755 ($50 over dealer cost). I bought it from a Jeep dealer in Kalamazoo, MI.

That’s where I got mine too but the dealership changed hands so no bueno now

mjfloyd1

@jipster said:

@oldfarmer50 said:
I haven’t heard of getting a timing belt replaced for under $1000 in a long time but maybe Hondas have a simpler system so what do I know.

I'll have to call and ask the dealership. In looking further some estimates were much higher.

You want timing belt and water pump replaced when you do it.

Hondacare warranties are really inexpensive if in warranty. I recall less than $1300 for $0 deductible 8 yr / 120k miles

explorerx4

If you buy a factory Ford/Lincoln extended service plan you can get a prorated refund based on time left or mileage with a processing fee.

oldfarmer50

jmonroe1 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

jipster said:

@mjfloyd1 said:

@jipster said:

Forgot to pack a lunch, weren't really looking to buy today. " alt="" height="20" /> But, I was starving, the dealership had the upper hand, so we left a refundable deposit.

The car had been traded in today. Has not been inspected or serviced. The salesman was wanting to finalize the deal. We said we'd wait for the inspection...and I really hadn't researched much. He pouted a bit, but was o.k. with reassurance.

We test drove several Honda CR-V's. But, I and Mrs. Jip liked the bigger Passport. Didn't really care to spend $45k to buy new. The salesman is suppose to call in 3-4 days when the car is ready.

The miles were a bit concerning, but has had timely oil changes and has the big V6 engine which is rated well.

Assuming it is a V6, you will need timing belt and water pump at around 105k miles

Didn't know that. Assumed it had a timing chain. Alexa says that will cost around $650.

I haven’t heard of getting a timing belt replaced for under $1000 in a long time but maybe Hondas have a simpler system so what do I know.
————————————————
That’s what we’ve been wondering since you got here.

jmonroe

I seldom let not knowing what I’m talking about prevent me from offering an opinion.😎

oldfarmer50

explorerx4 said:

If you buy a factory Ford/Lincoln extended service plan you can get a prorated refund based on time left or mileage with a processing fee.

Ford did a hard sell after I bought the Mustang. They offered something like 8 years/80k miles for whatever the price was. I thought about it but realized I’d burn through the years before I got anywhere near the mileage.

I wasn’t wrong, I just hit 19k miles after 10 years.

kyfdx

stickguy said:

Ok, but $450 for an oil change is still crazy.

Reminds me that I was talking with my BIL last weekend. He has a Jag (F type? The mid sized 4 door). Supercharged. About a 2016. Anyway, the dealer charges some silly price for an oil change so he decided to do it himself. He said it is 15 minutes tops. And all from the top. No drain plug so you stick a suction tube down the dipstick tube to suck the oil out. Filter is a top mount cartridge so unscrew the cap and swap in a new element (which are pretty cheap). Then put new oil in it.

XF

mjfloyd1

@qbrozen said:

@graphicguy said:
I'm a Honda/Acura fan boy. So, take that into consideration. I REALLY love that 3.5L V6. Had it in two TLs. Just smooth, torquey, quiet.

Not sure about extended warranty. I've never bought one. But, whenever I had major service done (which wasn't often recently given my propensity to trade out before it's due), I always seemed to get a coupon from the dealer that gave me a pretty fair discount on things like AWD service and timing chain replacements. An extended warranty won't cover required service, though.

As such, given the general nature of Hondas, not sure I'd write a check for an extended warranty if see vice records are good.

Engine may have been good, but they had a block of years there with questionable transmissions paired with that engine.

We had a couple with bad torque converters

tjc78

@jmonroe1 said:
————————————————
That sounds good and good to hear that you got to cause of your discomfort. Just curious but was this an ophthalmologist you went to? So, I take it that you don’t have to scrap your new glasses.

jmonroe

Yes it’s a dedicated eye care office that does surgery, cataracts, etc.

It’s a bit of a relief that essentially it’s just dry eye, but also a bit of a let down that I will most likely have to discontinue wearing contacts. I guess the silver lining is I’ll save that money lol

cdnpinhead

oldfarmer50 said:

I seldom let not knowing what I’m talking about prevent me from offering an opinion.😎

That's a cottage industry for some on here, and I'll leave it to the reader to determine name(s).

stickguy

the only engine issue with the V6 Hondas that I know of is the VCM problem that led to ring issues. Not sure when or if that got resolved. Or how to tell that there is an issue without seeing how fast it runs through oil. Pretty sure there was an extended warranty program on that.

driver100

stickguy said:

Ok, but $450 for an oil change is still crazy.

Reminds me that I was talking with my BIL last weekend. He has a Jag (F type? The mid sized 4 door). Supercharged. About a 2016. Anyway, the dealer charges some silly price for an oil change so he decided to do it himself. He said it is 15 minutes tops. And all from the top. No drain plug so you stick a suction tube down the dipstick tube to suck the oil out. Filter is a top mount cartridge so unscrew the cap and swap in a new element (which are pretty cheap). Then put new oil in it.

It is an A-Service so they check a lot of items, and the oil alone is worth about $140. The car has had no mechanical problems and it drives like a new one, 8 years old, 50000 miles on it.....if it only costs $700 a year ($450 USD) plus normal wear and tear like tires and batteries etc I can live with that. They also did a major software update that took about 2 hours........no charge....how would your friend do that?

stickguy

take it to the dealer to do it for free.

ab348

I made an appointment for a 6-month service on the Caddy the other day. Business must be good as the dealer is booking about a month out. Oil/filter change is $109 in worthless Canadian dollars which seems fair. I wanted them to do the annual once-over of a bunch of things which is another $100. The lady booking me in tried upselling me on lots of other things like sludge removal treatment, decarbonizing the valves, and brake caliper lube which I declined. I did go for a brake fluid change which had never been done.