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Nissan Murano CVT Transmission



  • nsudd1nsudd1 Posts: 6

    Please be sure to file a safety complaint with the NHTSA. The more complaints the better.
  • Steve,
    Sorry to hear about your 03' MO. I wish I had discovered this problem when I was researching my 03' MO before I bought it. As for the CVT fluid, it does not require changing like Dexron fluid, it's a completely different animal. You only need to have the fluid tested using a special tester for metal particles exceeding a specific parts-per-million at the Nissan recommended intervals.
    I've learned a lot from reading all of these 225 posts along with other Murano forums.
    File a complaint with NHTSA.
  • Have you tried calling Nissan North America, give them your VIN# & have them tell you ALL warranty work that has been done to your vehicle, they have to tell you. I found out my CVT was replaced at 27,000miles!!.. sounds like maybe that's why yours may have been traded or sold with 30,000miles on it...
  • steved6steved6 Posts: 10
    Hey jetwrench. That was the first thing I did after the purchase was drove down to two local Nissan dealerships asking for repair history. The only thing that came up was a repair for crank sensor b/c SES turned on around 80k miles. I have the original invoice that was kept with the owners manual and it shows a Colorado dealer. I went to that same dealership and no records other than that crank sensor. Would calling Nissan of America show more records or something?

    I'm going to change the CVT fluid myself this weekend. Both Nissan dealerships I went to recommended change every 60k, and wanted $400+. Again BS!!

    I would rather spend $200 changing the fluid, then find out in 3 months or 1 yr the transmission completely fails. This would be a $6-7k repair job I cannot afford. :lemon:
  • Nissan North America will have all warranty work done by any dealership to your vehicle complied.
    The MO repair manual states to have a CVT Fluid Deterioration Check done & that as long as it passes it doesn't have to be changed until it has 210,000 miles on it.
    Use only genuine Nissan CVT NS-2 fluid, it's about $20 a quart.

    Good luck..
  • Just returned from having a Nissan recall for the idle problem fixed, and discussed the transmission concerns with the service manager. He indicated that the transmission fluid should be changed about every thirty-K miles, but the repair manual states every 60000 miles (I'm pushing 82K). In discussing changing the fluid, he stated that it needs to be changed using a pressure system, and it takes about 17 quarts,,,, which agrees with the 10.2 ltr. capacity and about 30% to 50% extra fluid to do the flush (IAW the service manual) (I've got it on disc). He also told me about a guy who tried to change the fluid himself, and ran the engine to pump the fluid out>>>>>>almost ruined the tranny? Very possible---I think the service manager was on the level. Says it would cost me about $350 including taxes to do mine for me. Considering having it done at this time. Thought about using a pressure brake bleeder to do it, but 17 qts is a lot of refilling for a hand held presssure brake bleeder.
  • I have had the EXACT same problem. It will randomly stall and now the SLIP and VDC Off lights have come on. I also purchased my vehicle used with 88,000 miles thinking I would be able to get a good 250,000 out of it. At this point, if I didn't still owe money on it, I would get rid of it. VERY disappointed as well in all the problems I am now having including replacing the manifold at $600 and now needing one of the emission control sensors replaced costing $1000! Don't know what it will take to fix the SLIP and VDC sensors. All I can say is, think twice before making a Nissan purchase. Seems their vehicle quality has gone down yet the prices continue to go up!
  • steved6steved6 Posts: 10
    ahart4hm, the problem you are describing is different that what myself and most people here are reporting about the CVT transmission. Our problem is the lagging during stop-and-go traffic where you step on the gas & nothing happens for 5 seconds then it accelerates.

    Your problem sounds related to the brake system; a sensor going bad or something with the brake components.
  • steved6steved6 Posts: 10
    I have filed a complaint to NHTSA--

    I own a 2003 Nissan Murano SL with about 101,000 miles. After about 20 minutes driving I get the lagging issue where I step on the gas pedal after a complete stop and nothing happens, then all of sudden after 5 seconds the car accelerates dangerously! My wife drives this car and she’s also pregnant. I’m afraid that one day this problem will happen, and she would accelerate after the lagging issue only to hit someone in front of her and cause a major accident. I’m also afraid when she tries to make a left turn during the lag someone might hit her causing an accident. This manufacture need to recognize this is a safety issue, and they need to have a safety recall on these vehicles.
  • jayriderjayrider Posts: 3,602
    After a 100k on a transmission a major repair is not out of the ordinary. Why would you drive a car that apparently could kill you? Why not have it fixed or trade it in. NHTSA won't get it fixed and Nissan won't pay.
  • steved6steved6 Posts: 10
    I owned Toyota, Nissan, Honda, Infiniti, Lexus vehicles and changing a transmission after 100k is not normal...All of my vehicles I've owned have went to 200k miles on original engine and transmission without a hitch. And this is even buying them as used vehicles not knowing whether previous owners took care of the car.

    This Murano seem to be the exception since they decided to experiment with the CVT. After further research Nissan didn't even invent this CVT transmission. They used JATCO who manufactures CVT for Nissan and other manufacturers. Nissan must be confident that this "Acceleration Delay" is only happening to a very small number of Muranos not to recall it and to continue putting them in on newer Muranos, Maximas, and other Nissan lineups today. Is it really only about 200+ of us Murano owners out of 1 millionz+ :lemon: affected by this??
  • jayriderjayrider Posts: 3,602
    No car company will repair a broken transmission with 100k miles. The government won't step in either. Ooops-- if you bought a chrysler/jeep product with the lifetime warranty, you are covered forever. Most trannys should last well beyond 100k. The problem is that with this high tech cvt it is outrageous to fix. A domestic tranny used to be 2k for a rebuild. The newer ones are likely to be a lot more.
  • nsudd1nsudd1 Posts: 6

    I am not sure if you have been doing your research, like many upset 2003 Murano Owners, but most of these transmissions are failing well before the 100k line. Some have report failures at 25,000 miles, but they were still covered under warrenty.

    Furthermore, Nissan has indeed changed the transmission in the Murano. the newer models do not have the same CVT that was in the 2003-2005 Muranos.
  • jayriderjayrider Posts: 3,602
    The transmissions are indeed prone to failure. I don't like the way mine hesitates in reverse and drive from start - up from time to time. It's leased and gone before any issues that cost me anything. The issue with this 03 is regrettable but I can't see you getting satisfaction from nissan once out of warranty. I hope you do, good luck.
  • Does anyone have an address where Carlos Ghosn, CEO of Nissan can be contacted. I plan to write him a letter.
  • I've just been told our 04 Murano needs a new transmission too and it has 100,000 km on it. At least they think it needs it as the trany 'slips' under load. This is crazy! A transmission should last 250,000 km at least. I just replaced one in a 01 Chev Astro van with that much mileage. And I didn't think that was right,but this is ridiculous! And $7000 to do the repair with a new trany! Really nice vehicle but the repair costs are outrageous! And I don't wanna take the chance of it failing again on a road trip like it just did. The fastest it would go was 100 kph across the prairies. I had tractors passing us. So it will probably get fixed and traded.
  • bikerforlife have you tried flushing the CVT fluid? I just did a flush over the weekend & so far it fixed my problem with the "Acceleration Delay" during stop-and-go traffic. This may be a temporary fix but $150 in fluid is better than $7000 transmission. The root of the problem is a sensor inside the transmission transfer case that gets dirty. The sensor itself is cheap to replace, but DUMB NISSAN decided to put it inside the tranny where it becomes non-serviceable and Nissan will just tell you to replace the tranny instead to fixing the problem b/c of labor cost.

    Do it yourself don't let the dealer crocks flush it they'll charge you $400-500.
    The service manual doesn't even mention a fluid change, but every Nissan recommends change every 60k miles. I've even heard the CVT is almost a lifetime fluid up to 210k. CVT trannys have less moving parts vs traditional tranny, but I do not believe in lifetime fluid. If fluid is required for a moving part at some point it will get old and needs changing. :lemon:
  • Hi,
    I'm bigeasy who's posted on this site and others about the failing 2003 Murano CVT trans. Recently - after a lot of back-and-forth between me and Nissan Customer Service - I was lucky enough to have a Nissan VP pick up my letter to Carlos Ghosn (CEO) and decide to help me. To that end Nissan replaced my CVT trans with me paying for the labor, So instead of costing me an estimated $5000, it cost a little over $1000 for labor.
    Like you I loved the Murano the first time I drove it - EASILY the most comfortable car I've ever driven! (Almost 6'5"!)
    Don't be afraid of the Murano but have the dealer you're buying from extend you some sort of warranty on the trans. DON"T TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER - Or, don't take the deal!
    BTW, I'm almost positive that the Lexus 330 and the Nissan Murano are built on side-by-side production lines, but someone else is going to have to verify that.
    Good luck!
  • bigeasy, you are one of the lucky ones. Are you the original owner?
  • Hello Bigeasy,

    Do you by any chance have a mailing address for Carlos Ghosn? Also, just out of curiousity do you reside in New Orleans?
  • No car company will repair a broken transmission with 100k miles. The government won't step in either.

    I agree. That's why they have 5 years or 60K miles warranty. Even though, the transmission can be last longer but it's not a guaranty.
  • Perhaps so, but when the car cost $36000, as mine did, with all the options, and the replacement transmission costs $5000, then I expect the transmission to last a bit longer. The kind of problem I had with the Murano (not just the transmission) and the very high cost of maintaining the car are not acceptable for a car in this price range. It would be another thing if it was a Hyundai or a Kia, that costs half as much.
  • jayriderjayrider Posts: 3,602
    The higher the pricetag on the car the more it costs to repair / maintain. Just because a car costs more doesn't make it more reliable either. More technology = higher everything. Try a mercedes/bmw/audi. If a car doesn't have a high tech drivetrain it should be cheaper to repair/maintain. Also -- the more units on the road--the more manufacturers produce parts = cheaper. My murano is gone in two more years. Not taking a high tech ride past 36k miles. This forum convinced me in that regard.
  • Didn't have time to read all the posts but I can only hope someone suggested checking the air ducts. I've corrected 3 Muranos CVT problems in less than 5 minutes by just tightening the air ducts up a bit as they tend to leak and cause the same problem.
  • Billy, you said you corrected 3 Muranos by tightening the air ducts. Did those Muranos have the "Acceleration Lag" in stop-and-go traffic? Was it a permanent fix? I saw Nissan issued a safety recall for it recently. :lemon:
  • jetwrench,

    To answer your first question, I did have my second CVT fail. I did read through all the postings and had similar experiences with Nissan consumer affairs. What baffles me the most is at the time of the first replacement the Nissan dealer gave me the option to upgrade the button on the console that locks the Murano in AWD. This upgraded button has a safety feature that doesn't allow the user to accidently put the Murano in AWD while on drive pavement. (This is deemed to be the cause of the transfer case failure). I declined this upgrade as my $4000 bill was enough without the $600 switch upgrade. Also, if engaging the button caused the transfer case to fail I will not let that happen again as the first repair was a lesson.

    Well, my Murano is back in the shop with transfer case that is failing again. The dealership originally said it was covered under warranty and then later called back stating it wasn't going to be covered under warranty because I didn't replace the switch on my console. The dealership noted the Service bulletin Nissan issued regarding this issue. The bulletin number is NTB04-129 and can be found at the link below. The dealership went on to state that Nissan recommends this upgrade of the switch. To me it seems like Nissan has realized the fault part and want the consumer to pay for the "upgraded" or correct switch that is apparently make the transfer case fail. The truck is still in the dealership. The dealership is working with Nissan to see what the results will be. I can't imagine having to stick another $4,000 in a truck that I only paid $16000, which brings my total repairs of $8000 to half the cost of the vehicle. I am contemplation getting an attorney to see if I can at least get my money back for what appears to me as a defective product.
  • nsudd1,
    I had my second CVT failure and at the current moment it looks like Nissan will not warranty this one because I didnt' upgrade the colsole button as they recommended. I am seriously considering getting an Lawyer to make this situation right. Not to sure where to start but I will keep researching.
  • steved6,

    From my own experiences, the air duct issue is not related to the acceleration lag issue. I first noticed the air duct issue after changing the air filter myself. After I finished, I started up the suv, tried to drive out the garage, and the engine would sputter out and die. Tried it again a couple of times and same issue.

    I must have knocked the air duct loose when I changed the filter, but after tightening it, everything was a-ok. I have noticed that the air duct on my Murano comes loose every so often, and I have to tightened it, which is really quite difficult. There's a small notch for alignment purposes, but when I feel around on the opposite side of the notch, the duct is barely on, and I pretty much have to man-handle it in, but it's not a great fit. I think the recall will take care of this issue, though I have not called Nissan just yet to set up an appointment.

    For the acceleration lag, I've done the fluid flush, I've had my throttle body chamber replaced, but the problem still happens on my Murano, typically on a hot day in stop-n-go traffic. The easiest fix is to shut off the engine and turn it back on, but it'll come back after 5-10 minutes if I'm still driving in the same traffic. It once occurred after waiting in the drive through for McDonald's.

    I don't have faith in Nissan to do what's right. I also don't have faith in my '03 Murano to last for another 4 years without a big repair job. And from reading messages on this group, I don't have faith that I rebuilt transmission will ultimately solve the problem. Thus, I think we'll probably trade-in the Murano instead of trying to keep it around. Never again will I buy a Nissan.
  • Lost a customer! I'm about ready to sue them! My car has the same problem, hit the gas nothing, then it takes off like a rocket. Actually it's my wifes car who uses it to get my son around. Apparently I was eligable for the Intake Airduct recall (which fixed nothing) but my VIN falls outside of the group eligable for the Shift Position Indicator upgrade, which is total BS since my car has all the same components as those with different VIN #'s. So now the dealership wants $255 for diagnostics and $2,283.00 to replace the valve body. This is a 2003 Murano with 59,700 miles on it, past the 5 year warranty but under the mileage which doesn't help me but it says what a garbage product this is. I don't even know what to do. I called customer service who after an hour of telling there is no one I can talk beyond the first person I got on the phone they finally agreed to enter a case number and give me a call back next week. These guys suck! Any ideas?
  • And yes my problems only start after the car has been running for a while and heats up...same as everyone here. And how do we get info to Carlos Ghosn CEO Nissan North America? I want to write a letter. Clearly no one on the 1-800-NISSAN1 phone number is going to help. Can some one post the contact info so we can all write? Please!
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