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By the way, I'm an engineer and have suggested replacing the ECU and various sensors until the problem disappears. (This is a valid trouble-shooting/repair method for problems that are otherwise not easily identified.) They refused as this would be a "repair attempt" and after 3 repair attempts the customer has grounds to enact the Lemon Law. Nice huh? That's their way around the Lemon Law! So, needless to say, even though I planned to be a life-long Honda guy, I'm no longer a Honda fan. Should I consider another Honda after this? Let me know your thoughts!
But what would you buy in that case that has a better record of reliability?
I guess I'm puzzled since I've never heard of a problem that couldn't eventually be tracked down and fixed.
I am pretty sure a lawyer can help you regarding your problems with Honda and your car. To me, you have enough material to file "a lemon law" suit.
You probably just got a bad Honda Accord and I can sympathize with your plight.
The dealer is suppose to provide warranty work and if they can't fix the problem, I would hesitate to buy the same brand. Nothing worse than bringing a new car back to a dealership numerous times and not getting it fixed.
Does anyone know how long it takes for a Honda Rep. to come to your Dealer to look at the car?
My dealer is telling me the Rep will be there in mid to late Sept. to look at my car for the paint defect!!!!!!
Sounds pretty screwed up to me!!!
He would be the person to ask.
Actually, I have no idea since I've never been involved with this. you might want to ask someone who works in service.
In the six years I've been here I am aware of no visits by a Honda Rep to our Service Dept although it's certainly possible the've been here?
I don't know if these guys do perodic visits or of they come when called.
With all the negativity(founded or not) with this tranny, a certain percentage of buyers will shy away regardless of the accuracy of the information. This is not good, especially for the private party that wants to sell.
So even if the sky isn't falling, the perception it is can be just as influential on resale value.
Honda has trouble with the transmission and if there are enough complaints, the NHSTA will force a recall. Honda should just bite the bullet and repair free of charge all V-6 transmissions like they did with the balancer shaft seal problem.
Read the postings regarding the transmission at Edmunds or any of the other Honda boards. It is an alarming trend to say the least.
hope you're not on the east coast, and have a better rep than i did.
Frankly, these "problems" are for the most part tremendously overblown. I, for one am totally sick and tired of defending this issue. The VAST majority of owners will never have a problem.
But, hey, if a buyer decides to buy something else out of fear, that's the way it's going to be!
Hondamonda, of course, I have met Honda Reps. they have been from the sales side and not service. All of them have been very friendly and down to earth people.
Chances are overwhelming that you will NEVER have a problem! Of course, anything CAN happen I suppose...
As far as being an isolated case, it isn't. The service manager told me that other V-6 transmissions have been replaced and I was fortunate that Honda agreed to pick up the cost.
Guess maybe it is because I purchased my last four Hondas at the same dealership?
I will say that the car now drives and shifts as smooth as silk. Hope I do not have any more problems knock on wood!
I have a V6 Accord and use it for a several hundred mile business trip every 2 weeks. I never worry about it, and have never had my Accord fail me (I'm up to 54,000 miles).
I'm starting to sound like Isell's parrot, but some balance needs to be maintained. And, no, I don't sell Hondas.
I don't sell Hondas either, but I just have a feeling that if these tranny problems were really so widespread, those that DO sell Hondas wouldn't be selling quite so many!
As for the guy scared to drive the car to the wedding, I'd say don't worry about it. Especially if you've only got 2000 miles on the car! Most cars, even under severe driving conditions, shouldn't need a tranny fluid service for about 25-30,000 miles. As long as you have the tranny serviced regularly, you should be fine for a long, long time.
p.s. sorry to sound so negative about it, but i will be the first to admit to being jaded by honda customer service as it will be a year in september since i started dealing with them and nothing has been resolved.
The V-6 transmission is troublesome and is no where as reliable as the 4 cylinder model. Sounds like an engineering problem on Hondas part.
I had the 30K service where the transmission fluid was changed and there were no problems at that time. Actually, I have followed all service recommendations on the last 4 Hondas I have owned to the letter. Furthermore, I do not abuse my cars and they are only used to go back and forth to work and on vacations. I have a 17 mile highway commute to work each day on the interstate.
Getting back to the failure, it just stopped shifting into gear and it felt that it was only in neutral. AAA was called and car was towed into the dealership.
I have been a loyal Honda owner and I can't complain about the service at the Honda dealership where I purchase my vehicles. The transmission has been replaced and so far the car shifts as smooth as silk.
Truthfully, I don't think I would have bought the V-6 Accord if I knew I was going to have a transmission failure. Once my car is paid off, I will trade it in on an Accord EX 4 cylinder. I love Honda products but I would hesitate to ever buy a V-6 Accord again until they correct the transmission problem.
Hope the new tranny lasts you a long time.
Like anything...things CAN happen. Glad it was fixed!
That may be true, but that doesn't mean very common among all V6 Accord owners. One cannot look at Edmunds posts as representative of all car owners.
Misery always loves company too...
It is the readers that own the vehicle that are reporting the problems. Let's face it, the V-6 transmission is not as reliable as the I-4's.
I will assume that both of these statements are true. Although I have seen no concrete stats that prove or disprove that the V6 tranny is less reliable than the I-4, it probably is. Even so, the posts on here have some people frightened to buy a V6 Accord or even drive their V6 Accord on a few hundred mile trip. Even if the V6 tranny is less reliable than the I-4, is the problem so widespread and common that people should not drive their cars or buy one? I don't think so.
Have the instances of faulty transmissions repeated ad nauseum here made people listen and feel extra-hard for problems with their own car, in essense creating a "problem" where none would have ever been identified before? Absolutely.
I certainly have sympathy for anyone having a genuine problem, but I think it has been overblown. I recognize, however, that I would feel differently if my car had been one of the few that had the problem.
Ok, now I do have a question. Is the tranny that bolts up behind the V-6 the same unit that bolts up behind the I-4? Or maybe the same unit, but with a different bell housing/bolt pattern? If that's the case, I could certainly see it not holding up quite as well with the increased torque and hp of the V-6. If that's the case though, I'm sure they took it into consideration to make the unit durable enough that it will still last a long, long time with proper care and maintenance. That's not to say there aren't some bum ones out there...I'm sure there are. Every car maker, no matter what their reputation, is bound to make a mistake from time to time.
Honda was good enough to replace my transmission and to date it has worked flawlessly. It has been only less than a month and only time will tell how will it holds up. Yes, isellhondas, I was miserable but I didn't want to see anyone else go through the same problem that I encountered with an automobile that I am still paying on!
Rbruehl: isellhondas is a salesman so you have to understand where he is coming from. I don't think he was out to offend you. He is one of those that believes the V-6 transmission failures are isolated and not as widespread as others have reported. Hope your car's problem is now corrected.
The V-6 transmission problems are few and far between.
My "Misery loves Company" comment was poorly placed and lugwrench is correct, it was not made to offend.
I do think we would all agree that a lot of dirty laundry does get aired in forums such as this and a certain "me too" mentality exists.
rbuehi, I know your problem was real and I didn't mean to be insensitive. I'm sure it will be fine now.
For instance, I always knew that Saabs like to blow their head gaskets (prior 900 series to this one) but never knew the percentages. Finally found the number on Saabnet....it was an 8% failure rate, which is horrendous.
I seriously doubt the V-6 transmission failure rate is anything like that....and even at 8% Saab never did anything about it.
Saab is a small player, but 8% of all Accords dying like that...well, they'd be littering the highways.
I believe Consumer Reports magazine has around 33,000 subscribers that answer their yearly poll.
Powers survey would probably be more representative since most automotive companies consider their findings "the gospel".