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Honda Accord Quality Control Issues



  • tcpip1tcpip1 Posts: 121
    I have an '89 Accord DX 5-speed stick that I bought it new. It has about 180K miles now. The interior of the car still looks great. The original engine and transmission are still working well. I drove it from NJ to Houston and back in March. The car is still going strong. :)

    I guess modern cars (e.g., V6 Accords) are more complicated and hence more likely to experience problems. Recently, I acquired a '94 Legend GS with 65K miles. The car still looks as new as a 2000 Accord V6 EXL when parked side by side. The Accord owner (my neighbor) still amazed that the car is a '94. :) I wish that the Legend has a gas mileage as good as the current 3.2TL.
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 23,487
    I think eeel drive's a '98 Intrepid, and that '88 is just a typo. He's had several LH's before, and, like me, I think is one of the minority that's actually had good luck with 'em! Well, I've only got 46K on mine, so it's still too early to tell if it's going to last forever!

    As far as Accord reliability goes, well, I only know one person with a current-gen model, and she's happy with it. I do know several people who own/have owned Accords though the years, and the only one I can think of that was a real POS was my friend's 80, back in college. Now I do have a some friends who used to own a '94 Civic, that proved to be the worst car they've ever owned. But, judging from their previous cars, they probably didn't take good care of this one either. Or maybe it WAS a lemon, who knows? Everybody's entitled to make a lemon every once in awhile, just as long as I don't get stuck with it ;-)
  • hkdonhondahkdonhonda Posts: 20
    What is this fuel sender issue? My low fuel light went out about 30K miles ago, any relation to what could happen later?

    What is up with the balancer shaft seal? Does it affect 6's 4's or both? What are the first signs of failure?

    You've got my vote on the paint thing. Chips and scratches very easily. Solution: I have my car detailed twice a year with ZAINO products. It's been helpful. Also spent 2 years going through a NON-touchless carwash every weekend! Learned from that one...

    Also noticed the rust issue behind the wheel wells. Very common on Honda products, but I could think of worse things to happen over the course of ownership...

    The V6 tranny thing was news to me when I started reading Edmunds forums in 98. Never seen a V6 Accord broken down in my travels.

    ...Just turned 68,000 on a 98 LX-5spd sedan.
  • pblevinepblevine Posts: 858
    Good to hear from you again. What finally happened to your Accord?

    Isell: What some folks seems to want is a place where they can dissemble to a Honda offical. As in feedback. Meaningful feedback. You HAVE been thoughtful, almost objective within your range, knowledgable, and an all round helpful person. But you've almost set yourself up as a target. That's good, we all need a few targets. So, please do not be surprised when a few 'also well meaning' individuals rant a bit. It comes with the territory. But also...Most of us have no axe to grind and DO appreciate your presence. Ya sees, fer example: there have been several "perfect" cars: there was the Chevy Corvair (loved it - my father's that is), the Edsel (ah, talk about quality control), the DeLorrian (sic, but then he "blew" it), and my favorite, the Geo Metro (ah the power).
  • bburton1bburton1 Posts: 395
    Do the accords built in japan have the same EPA mandated paint as the US built accords.
  • teoteo Posts: 2,508
    Probably they do.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 20,225
    Yeah...I know about the target situation.

    Thanks for your kind words. I do try to help here whenever I can. Once in awhile I'll run into a Honda hater, or car salesperson hater or a combination of the two.

    I'll usually toss off the sarcastic comments but when pushed hard enough, I'll push back sometimes.

    It's when someone as much as calls me a liar that gets by blood boiling. I have no reason to do this here.


    For crying out loud, spend a few bucks and get your burned out low fuel bulb replaced! No, this has no relationship to anything else. Just a burned out bulb!

    The balancer shaft seal, as I understand it applies to some 1994-1997 4 cylinder models.

    Most of these will never have a problem but if the seal fails, you will know it quickly.

    And, please tell can an application of Zaino or any other car wax protect a car against a thrown rock that chips the paint?

    Heck, I'll buy some tomorrow!
  • hkdonhondahkdonhonda Posts: 20
    I knew that's what it was, just not ready to tear apart my dash to fix it. It was kind of a little sarcasm thrown in to offset the peeling paint from the muffler... (Ya, got some of that too). I was actually curious about the Balancer shaft seal though. From what it sounds like, it was serious! Oh ya, about the Zaino, it doesn't protect against the rocks, but I like to have it detailed to protect any of the pits from rusting. Believe me I have plenty of pits...
  • hkdonhondahkdonhonda Posts: 20
    What IS the deal with fuel sender units? From what it sounds like it is just a misleading gas guage issue?
  • teamxteamx Posts: 1
    I got a 2001 Accord Ex-V6 last month. So far is OK. However, I have a question that if I use the higher octan 89 gasoline, will it be better for running the engine or maintenance issue? According to the owner's manual, it recommends to use octan 86 or above. Can anyone give me idea?
  • anselmo1anselmo1 Posts: 163
    The Balancer Shaft Seal problem applied to "ALL" 1994-97 Honda Accord 4 cylinder models. This is why everyone received a "recall" notice in increments. The problem was extremely serious as the seal would blow and oil would spill out in huge amounts. The problem was severe enough that your engine could seize up, and your timing belt damaged. The solution was a $5.00 retaining clip which would hold the seal into place.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 20,225
    I didn't think it was ALL of them but that could be.

    If someone owns one of these they definately should have the update done. The VAST majority of cars will never blow the seal but it's happened enough that Honda is fixing/updating them at no charge.

    When these go, they can go quickly. The oil light will come on way before damage is done but if the driver isn't paying attention or can't pull over the engine could well be damaged.
  • lugwrenchlugwrench Posts: 213
    Absolutely a very serious problem if not corrected. The fix only takes around one hour and Honda will pay for it. If you haven't had the clip installed, do so as soon as possible.
  • bburton1bburton1 Posts: 395
    In addition to the balancer shaft seal recall-Honda also has a recall for an emissions issue. You get plugs, rotor, plug wires and a oil change. Did not get a notice on this one and it is worth quite a few bucks. Expires when odometer hits 120K. Will have mine done at 119.5
  • lancerfixerlancerfixer Posts: 1,308
    Where'd you get that info? Could you, Isell or auburn verify that one?
  • mhobbymhobby Posts: 2
    You said in post number 148 that you finally found a great cleaner, what was it?
  • anselmo1anselmo1 Posts: 163
    I have used a product called Finish Fast on my windshield. It is great and also is safe for tinted windows. I do not sell the product or am I associated with the company that manufactures it.

    Information may be found at the following sites.


  • jho2jho2 Posts: 1
    1997 Honda Accord Coupe - great car, great mileage, etc., would recommend to anyone, however...lately encountering problem w/ ac. It's throwing up on the front passenger floor and sounds like a full washing machine when running the ac. Live in Columbia, SC (very HOT, very HUMID) could this be affecting it? Have appointment next week w/ dealer. Read some online posts at NHTSA about running ac in recirculate mode. Does anyone else have this problem? Know of four people in my area w/ same problem. Dealer says cost to fix $50-$250 depending on whether they have to remove the evaporator. Sounds like a design flaw - any comments, suggestions? Still love my honda - perfect car for college student.
  • lancerfixerlancerfixer Posts: 1,308
    Sounds like your drain tube is clogged. It's actually pretty common, especially in humid environments. Just have the dealer or whomever either blow some compressed air up there or take something like a length of wire and stick it up there. It's usually mold that accumulates in that tube, so it's a good idea to bleach it or otherwise get rid of the mold, or else it'll just grow back eventually. I've had this issue with my Accord as well, and the dealer didn't even charge me to put the car on the lift and blow out the tube. (It drains near the passenger side tire, under the hood.) Hope this helps.
  • fritz1224fritz1224 Posts: 398
    That cleaner is called "Glass Cleaner" and is made by Sprayway. It's ammonia free and comes in a pressurized can. It goes on as a foam and is safe to use on tinted windows. I got it at an auto detail supply store called Mirror Glaze. When used with newspaper as the wipe cloth it works great.
    Until finding this product I just couldn't get the windows clean, always smudges left where ever I stopped wiping.
  • anselmo1anselmo1 Posts: 163
    Had my air conditioning unit on my Accord checked out this past Friday. Water control valve had to be adjusted since it was 1/16th off. Air Conditioning unit know blows real cold air after two years. Selling dealership's service department definitely didn't know how to diagnosis the problem. Taking my Accord to a new Honda dealership that has a service technician with 26 years of Honda experience. Corrected the situation on the first try.
  • I also had a problem with the air conditioning unit after they replaced the condenser under warranty. My problem was also the water control valve that needed to be corrected. After that, the air conditioning unit has been flawless.
  • lugwrenchlugwrench Posts: 213
    Has anyone else noticed how fast these tires seem to wear out on the Accords?
  • lancerfixerlancerfixer Posts: 1,308
    Actually, I got about 53,000 miles out of a set. I could have probably gone about 10,000 more, but the tread wear was compromising winter traction. I replaced them with a set of Continental Touring tires, which I'm happy with so far.
  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 8,863
    I got about 35K out of mine. They still had tread left, but wet traction was started to suffer. I replaced them with Sumitomo's and have been pretty happy.

    I don't consider the poor wear of the tires to be a Honda QC issue - more a Michelin issue.
  • lancerfixerlancerfixer Posts: 1,308
    I bought my car used off a lease, and the dealer had slapped some new Nokia (?) tires on the car. I was NOT at all impressed with those. My point is, the MX4s were not OEM to the car. robr2 is right; unless the tread wear is uneven, denoting bad suspension, tire wear is not really a car issue, but a tire one.
  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 8,863
    Actually, they were MXV4 Energy Green yadda yadda yadda which were OEM to the 98 Accord that I have. I was disappointed in them. They handled OK but didn't wear well although I rotated every 7500 miles and was vigilant on pressure. My 91 came with MXV3's and I got close to 60K out of them, then 50K out of Pirelli P6's. Heck, I even got 40K out of a set Eagle Gatorbacks on my old Daytona Shelby Z.
  • dash400mdash400m Posts: 55
    I just replaced my originals with a new set (52K) on my '98 Accord. The ride is smooth -- too bad tread wear isn't longer. Has anyone tried Toyo?
  • lugwrenchlugwrench Posts: 213
    I replaced my oem Honda tires at 30K with Michelin X-Ones. These tires are absolutely the best tires I have ever owned. They grip the road like no other tire. They also have the best warranty in the industry and the highest treadwear rating.
  • anselmo1anselmo1 Posts: 163
    There seems to be a correlation between Accords and OEM tire wear. Isn't the weight something like 60% front and 40% rear for the Accord?
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