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750 on sedan 1000 on coupe Both are factory to dealer incentives. Seems as if many are buying that car for 23800 to 24,600. Invoice is 25,200+ including transportation. Seems like they are giving you invoice minus some of the 750. They still have about 7-800 holdback in reserve. If you can get it for under 24,000, I'd say that's good.
After carefully considering the Honda Accord Hybrid, on a whim my wife and I decided to check out the 2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid. Long story short, sitting in my driveway tonight is a bright red Toyota Camry Hybrid we purchased for just about $1000 under MSRP.
The point of this post though is just to say that although we didn't end up buying it, I would highly recommend the internet department at Criswell Honda. Rules prohibit me from naming names (email me if you want to know), but the internet sales rep I dealt with was very good. We had a nice test drive, took our time with the vehicle, answered questions, and met my pricing expections (considerably under invoice). He did not pressure us. So, if you are in the market for an Accord (or really any Honda) around DC, check them out.
As for our new Camry--bottom line is that it came out considerably less expensive than the Accord, had everything the Accord did except leather and a good deal more (standard bluetooth, 440 watt stereo system, etc.) Plus, I just fit in it better. I was shocked because I'm more of a performance guy, but that Camry is still pretty quick and just made more sense.
But the Accord is an excellent car and a worthy competitor.
I saw a used beige 2003 Accord EX (I personally don't really like the beige color but I am pretty sure it could be repainted) with only 45,000 miles on it selling for $12,000 on Autotrader.com. The car came with a free carfax report that did not show any accidents or flaws. The car was also certified. According to value of the car, the price should be much higher. Then again, this could be some sort of special internet price. Does this price sound unreasonably low or does it sound suspicious. (The Carfax report did say it was from New Jersey and yet I live in the far south)
You could probably buy a new base model for not much more than 17-18. I might give up some of the EX features for a new car with a warranty rather than buy a 4 year old vehicle w/o a warranty :sick: . The warranty is worth thousands. But, I'm 56.
Hi guys, I'm a first time buy and I need some help. I got a quote for an accord v6 LX automatic '06 for about 21000. You guys think this is a good deal? I'm in southern cal. How much should I expect to pay for ttl? Also should I pay for the alarm system that comes from the dealership or is there one that comes with the car. Last, am I supposed to bring insurance in when I buy it so I can drive out with the car? Thanks a million.
mfletou1- I'd like to know who you dealt with at Criswell (and at Fitzgerald), as my final two choices are also between Honda and Mazda, but I can't seem to find your e-mail address. Could you send me an e-mail to the user name shown above at aol dot com? Thanks!
Between Honda and Mazda? Really? Have you driven both? I drove the Mazda6 and thought it was ok ... until I drove the Accord. I found there to be NO contest. The Accord felt much more expensive than it is, while the Mazda6 felt like exactly what it is, an inexpensive mid-sizer.
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Again, three dealers around So. Ca. are quoting the same car for 1000.+ UNDER invoice. (Rock Honda, Honda World, Diamond Bar Honda final quotes were around $ 21345. for an auto-4 EXL.)
After of few emails to the internet sales in on of the metro Detroit are dealer, they reduced the price for 2006 Accord EX no navigation, no leather quoted me $22,497.00 out the door price. Let me know if I am getting a better deal? or can I get still lower????
I just wanted to thank everyone for the help on this site. I got the Accord for 18200. A reasonable price I thought for southern michigan, in chicago they were a few hundred cheaper, but a smooth transaction done all over internet and phone. I was out of the dealer in 45 mins. Thanks all!!
I notice that you guys in California seem to get good deals. Are your Accords made in Mexico, for the most part. If they are, what are they like delivery wise. Do they have rattles. Do you get the typical Honda service? I live in Tennessee and our Accords are made in Maryville, Ohio.
Most are paying 500-1000+ UNDER invoice.The dealer has a 750-1000 dealer incentive with Honda so you should be able to go MUCH lower. What's that bogus advertising fee you added into your price? That's BS! :mad:
Well they gave me $750 off the invoice price of $22,456 (which is $21,706) and I've been trying to negotiate the destination charge but so far they are holding firm. How much lower should I push for-- $500 lower?? I should mention that they are including the Ipod link option as part of that price (normally $350).
If the dealer is giving up the dealer cash, and selling it at invoice, you did pretty good. you may be able to get another 100 or so out of him but you gotta let him make a little
Is the invoice with the ipod right at 23,400 ncluding transportation? They've got that 750 incentive so I would say offer them 23,400 minus the 750 invenbtive for a grand total of 22,650. They still have another 6-700 in holdback. Tell them you know about the incentives. BTW, I'd go somewhere else to compare since there must be numerous honda stores in your area. You can do better IMO. Many are getting he 6 cylinder EX invoice 25,200 (list almost 28,000) with transportation included for 23,600 to 24,400.
I got a new 06 Accord EX 3.0 liter V-6 with leather, moonroof, etc. for $18,400 and change. With taxes and shipping to New York etc., I was "out the door" for a little under $20,900.
The "catch" is that this was one of the cars damaged by the May 2 hailstorm in Texas; hence the good deal. But, truth be told, the damage is very minor. People usually don't even notice the damage unless I tell them.
Sadly, the ipod is not included in the price. I was told that there are no other incentives/holdback besides the $750. They won't remove the fees since there is "no profit left" in the deal. So i'm stuck with 23,661 out the door (22,356 before Tax, Title, Reg).
I did share the quote with another dealer who said it was a good deal. That dealer was not willing to beat the price.
I didn't think you included TTL in your deal for some reason. That price 22,356 is good. It's exactly what i thought a good deal would be w/o tax/title/ license. Enjoy the car!
I was quoted a price of 21,138 OTD for an Accord EX 4cyl. No Leather.
I'm going to get it tomorrow, and frankly, I'm a tad wary. Granted, I am a bit cynical when it comes to car dealers. Part of me fears this may be a ploy to get me in the door and add on a bunch of other fees. (The dealership is an hour away from me).
I did get the saleswoman to fax over a buyers order and a receipt for my credit card deposit, so if the deal goes south, I still have the buyers order to shop around, and I can always do a chargeback on the deposit.
I was told by a local dealer that that price is a $1000 money loser for them. I'm not sure I believe him, though. As best as I can tell, they're making about 4% profit off of me. Here's my math I used to determine that:
Accord EX Invoice = $20,928 minus 698 Holdback (3% of base Accord EX MSRP $23,800) minus 750 Factory to dealer incentive.
That gave me $19,480 for the Dealer's cost of the car.
I added a 4% profit to that figure which brought the total to $20,259.
To that, I added the $550 Destination fee and $339 South Carolina TTL. for a total of $21,148. That's $10 more than they quoted me. So I know they're making some money off of me.
I hope that math formula helps any other potential buyers. 3-5% is a fair profit. Plus, keep in mind there are always other undisclosed incentives that vary from dealership to dealership.
And we'll find out if this deal will actually happen tomorrow afternoon. Any advice y'all can toss out there to help me keep this dealership at this price?
Really? Pardon me if I'm skeptical but I saw the havoc that hail storm did on car dealer's lots around here! Believe me, their inventory got pounded and there is NO WAY anyone would NOT notice....And then you get the car for almost $5-6K less?....Mmmm, why would they mark a car down that much is the damage was "invisible"? Would love to hear more details, like which dealer "sacrificed" the car, etc.... :confuse:
I too would be curious to learn the details as I saw the damage some of the storms caused here, had actually considered purchasing a hail damage vehicle until I spoke with my insurance company who advised me not to do it.
That's a good deal as long it's not too obvious and it doesn't affect you enjoyment of the car. You saved 5-6000 which makes a few hail dings seem rather insignificant.
I'm looking to buy an Accord in late July. Can anyone recommend dealerships located in the Maryland / DC area? Also do most people start with online quotes before heading into the dealership? Just wondering how most are getting their final deals.
I just saw a offer from individual owner. He is trying to sell his car with $17,500 for '03 Accord EX V6 Coupe Manual of 9,500miles. Is it possible for 9,500miles after four years? Is there any possibility for manipulating odometer? If what seller are insisting is true, I think it is a good deal. Thank you for replies in advance.
I am looking to purchase within the next few weeks, if not sooner a 2006 accord EXL. I have requested via email to several dealerships their OTD price and of course, did NOT mention I had a trade in. The best OTD price so far is $23,000. Keep in mind TTL in SC is $339.00. Is this a good deal? I was told by friends to get their BEST price and then when I go to officially look at the car tell them OH by the way I would like to trade in my car. I was told it was BEST to work to seperate deals (like I have done so far) for my best interest.
Also, as far as trade in value - what do the dealerships use to determine trade ins??? NADA - seems much higher than Kelly Blue book. Any suggestions on determining trade in value before visiting the dealership would be greatly appreciated and me laughing at them with a ridiculous price on my trade in!
Had a really bad experience buying a 2006 Accord LX automatic at Autowest Honda in Fremont, CA. We completed the transaction but our salesman was quite rude and unprofessional. I highly recommend that you do NOT purchase your Honda there. Here's the long story...
After agreeing to purchase, we were told that the car would be cleaned and ready for us after we filled out our paperwork and financing documents. It was late at night so I said that we wouldn't mind picking up the car tomorrow if it would give them more time to clean and wash the car. But our salesman insisted that it wouldn't take long and we should stay until the car is ready.
It took about an hour and a half to fill out paperwork, etc. and my wife and I then waited for the car. Salesman said it would take just "5 more minutes." We wait 30 minutes, car's still not ready and he says "5 more minutes. This happens several times. Finally, a full hour and a half later, car is finally ready.
We do the final inspection and notice little scratches all over the car. We point them out and the salesman says it's just glue from the shrink wrapping that went around the car. He says he'll take it out back and have it detailed in "10 minutes". So we wait another 30 minutes... Car comes back and we notice that 80% of the scratches remain. We point these out to the salesman and he says, "Look, we only have one guy working back there at night. How long do you think it would take you to clean and detail an entire car?" I then point out that I had said earlier that I wouldn't mind picking it up tomorrow to give the dealer more time to clean it.
But, the salesman gets quite mad and says, "Fine, you don't want the car. I don't care, we rip up the paperwork and you go home" He then tells this to the sales manager in charge that night who states to us, "You are welcome to leave and we'll just rip up the paperwork." We felt that this was quite UNPROFESSIONAL AND RUDE especially since we had never said a thing about wanting to renege on the deal.
After some arguments about what constitutes a "scratch", we decided that we would just come back tomorrow after they've had time to clean and detail the car properly. We did not get home until 11:30 that night. We did return the next day and the car was fine and we drove it home.
We got a good price otherwise we would have went to ANY other dealer but felt that this customer treatment was quite RIDICULOUS and VERY RUDE. I recommend that you buy your Honda from ANY OTHER dealer who will treat you in a more courteous and professional manner.
To the sales manager's credit, he did apologize to us the next morning but we got no such apology from our salesman.
Thought everyone would be interested in knowing the price quotes I got for a 2006 Accord LX automatic with no options at San Francisco Bay Area Honda dealers.
After much research using these message boards, I finally pulled the trigger tonight on an EX-L (carbon bronze w/ ivory interior) in upstate NY for 22,100 + TTL. I also received what I believe to be a fair trade on my 1997 Toyota Camry. It took a while, but they finally came down to within $200 of my original offer. I pick the car up tomorrow.
Thanks again everyone, I could not have done it without you!
i live in NY tri-state area and just bought my accord vp auto - silver/black interior at 16,760. msrp 19,575, inv 17,692. used one of the internet dealer service and heard back from a few guys. all were pretty aggressive. started north of 17,000. seems everyone is very eager to sell before half year/month end. yonkers honda came in at 16,900 and refused to budge. a bit more brusque but i can take it. no prob. i bought from honda of nanuet.
just wanted to say what a terrific experience it was. the internet sales mgr was very patient and not at all nasty when it came down to the last few hundred off. i initially said if anyone can come in under 17, i would do it. lo and behold nearly everyone came in under it. my best px was actually 16,630 but that was thru an insider at a NJ dealer. nanuet guy explained that there were dealer fees in NJ that they would charge that will total over 175. and sure enough it was true... nanuet can as a NY dealer can only charge 45 by law. so net net, same px. i went to them because they were honest, patient and straight forward. no different when i got there to sign paper work. showed me the actual cars in color i wanted and i chose the exact car for delivery. everyone should do that if poss as i've had an experience with buying a new car only to discover at delivery that there was a paint chip. the dealer was pretty indifferent about that as the sale was completed. they gave me touch up paint and sent me on my way.
either way, while it is a stripped down version accord. i still have the same 4cyl engine, suspension, air bags, abs, pwr windows, locks. no traction control but i intend to use this as a light duty zip around town car. i am very pleased with the purchase.
accord for less than a stripped civic LX. oh what a feeling!
=======Really? Pardon me if I'm skeptical but I saw the havoc that hail storm did on car dealer's lots around here! Believe me, their inventory got pounded and there is NO WAY anyone would NOT notice....And then you get the car for almost $5-6K less?....Mmmm, why would they mark a car down that much is the damage was "invisible"? Would love to hear more details, like which dealer "sacrificed" the car, etc.... =======
Well, you can believe what you want to believe; I assure you it matters to me not. Like I said, there are scores of dings around the car, but they are tiny and they're not noticeable from a distance of more than a few feet. The dealer is Gunn Honda (of San Antonio)http://gunnhonda.com/main/
To me, the dings don't affect my enjoyment of the car one iota and I simply can't imagine how tiny hail dings are going to affect the mechanical functioning of the car, so I'm not sure I understand why the insurance person would advise against it... But, anyway, that's the story.
You had described your car purchase experience, listed price quotes from other dealers, but left out the actual purchase price from this dealer where you got the car. Would you like to share it with us? Thanks.
First of all, it doesn't matter about when you tell them you have a trade in. Dealerships already assume that you have a trade even if you don't mention it yet. Everyone does this. If it is a competent dealer, you would get the same offer on the new car whether or not you have a trade. Then, your trade is going to be worth what your trade is worth. Your best resource for an idea is KBB. NADA is not what dealers go by. You will likely get an offer close to what KBB says in fair or good condition. There are exceptions though. You are less likely to get quite as much if you are trading a gas hog because the market value isn't as good now because of fuel prices. Also remember that a dealer is buying your trade to try to make a deal, not because they have to buy it from you. You can always sell it yourself for more than trade in value, it's just a little bit of work.
Are you sure you recommend them? According to your previous post they might have made some money on the deal. You were afraid that you might have to use the buyers order to go shop around. I hope you are truly satisfied even though they made a little bit of money. Did they fill it up with gas for you and detail it?
I am looking to purchase a 2006 Honda Accord EXL in the New Orleans area. Has anyone bought one lately and if so what kind of price did you get and what dealership.
I did the same math as you on a LX SE (invoice - holdback - incentive + profit + destination + TTL). I managed to find the car for -1% "profit"!! carsdirect.com had the car for about 2.5% profit. Another dealer started at 5% profit (complained that he was "losing money on the deal, $X below MSRP, etc etc") and dropped it to 0% as I was walking out the door. I don't know what's going on, but there is some other way that these guys are making money.
Sorry to hear about your experience. I got a great price and a very friendly salesman & finance guy when I bought my LX SE from Fremont. Conversely, I had a horrible experience with another dealership where my friend loved buying his car. I guess it's all a matter of luck.
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1000 on coupe
Both are factory to dealer incentives.
Seems as if many are buying that car for 23800 to 24,600.
Invoice is 25,200+ including transportation. Seems like they are giving you invoice minus some of the 750. They still have about 7-800 holdback in reserve. If you can get it for under 24,000, I'd say that's good.
The point of this post though is just to say that although we didn't end up buying it, I would highly recommend the internet department at Criswell Honda. Rules prohibit me from naming names (email me if you want to know), but the internet sales rep I dealt with was very good. We had a nice test drive, took our time with the vehicle, answered questions, and met my pricing expections (considerably under invoice). He did not pressure us. So, if you are in the market for an Accord (or really any Honda) around DC, check them out.
As for our new Camry--bottom line is that it came out considerably less expensive than the Accord, had everything the Accord did except leather and a good deal more (standard bluetooth, 440 watt stereo system, etc.) Plus, I just fit in it better. I was shocked because I'm more of a performance guy, but that Camry is still pretty quick and just made more sense.
But the Accord is an excellent car and a worthy competitor.
I'd like to know who you dealt with at Criswell (and at Fitzgerald), as my final two choices are also between Honda and Mazda, but I can't seem to find your e-mail address. Could you send me an e-mail to the user name shown above at aol dot com?
Thanks!
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22,350 =
22,456 (inv) - 750 (marketing) + 550 (dest) + 100 (processing fee)
Out the door = $23,661.
I am being told there is no more room to negotiate. Should I push for a lower price or settle? Is there really a 3% holdback I can negotiate?
I just wanted to thank everyone for the help on this site. I got the Accord for 18200. A reasonable price I thought for southern michigan, in chicago they were a few hundred cheaper, but a smooth transaction done all over internet and phone. I was out of the dealer in 45 mins. Thanks all!!
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I agree the processing fee is bogus.
I bought an EX 4 door, no leather, in May. $20,300 plus TTL. That's includes destination. There was no doc fee.
BTW, I'd go somewhere else to compare since there must be numerous honda stores in your area. You can do better IMO.
Many are getting he 6 cylinder EX invoice 25,200 (list almost 28,000) with transportation included for 23,600 to 24,400.
The "catch" is that this was one of the cars damaged by the May 2 hailstorm in Texas; hence the good deal. But, truth be told, the damage is very minor. People usually don't even notice the damage unless I tell them.
I was very lucky to get the deal.
I did share the quote with another dealer who said it was a good deal. That dealer was not willing to beat the price.
Any last thoughts before I head in there?
I'm going to get it tomorrow, and frankly, I'm a tad wary. Granted, I am a bit cynical when it comes to car dealers. Part of me fears this may be a ploy to get me in the door and add on a bunch of other fees. (The dealership is an hour away from me).
I did get the saleswoman to fax over a buyers order and a receipt for my credit card deposit, so if the deal goes south, I still have the buyers order to shop around, and I can always do a chargeback on the deposit.
I was told by a local dealer that that price is a $1000 money loser for them. I'm not sure I believe him, though. As best as I can tell, they're making about 4% profit off of me. Here's my math I used to determine that:
Accord EX Invoice = $20,928
minus 698 Holdback (3% of base Accord EX MSRP $23,800)
minus 750 Factory to dealer incentive.
That gave me $19,480 for the Dealer's cost of the car.
I added a 4% profit to that figure which brought the total to $20,259.
To that, I added the $550 Destination fee and $339 South Carolina TTL. for a total of $21,148. That's $10 more than they quoted me. So I know they're making some money off of me.
I hope that math formula helps any other potential buyers. 3-5% is a fair profit. Plus, keep in mind there are always other undisclosed incentives that vary from dealership to dealership.
And we'll find out if this deal will actually happen tomorrow afternoon. Any advice y'all can toss out there to help me keep this dealership at this price?
Jonathan
I love your TTL in SC, in NY it's more like $1900.
I'm looking to buy an Accord in late July. Can anyone recommend dealerships located in the Maryland / DC area? Also do most people start with online quotes before heading into the dealership? Just wondering how most are getting their final deals.
Thanks,
Rob
Accord EX 4cyl cloth int.
Graphite Exterior.
$20,677 for the car
$21,138 OTD
Very hassle-free. Very friendly. I highly recommend them to anyone in the area.
Also, as far as trade in value - what do the dealerships use to determine trade ins??? NADA - seems much higher than Kelly Blue book. Any suggestions on determining trade in value before visiting the dealership would be greatly appreciated and me laughing at them with a ridiculous price on my trade in!
After agreeing to purchase, we were told that the car would be cleaned and ready for us after we filled out our paperwork and financing documents. It was late at night so I said that we wouldn't mind picking up the car tomorrow if it would give them more time to clean and wash the car. But our salesman insisted that it wouldn't take long and we should stay until the car is ready.
It took about an hour and a half to fill out paperwork, etc. and my wife and I then waited for the car. Salesman said it would take just "5 more minutes." We wait 30 minutes, car's still not ready and he says "5 more minutes. This happens several times. Finally, a full hour and a half later, car is finally ready.
We do the final inspection and notice little scratches all over the car. We point them out and the salesman says it's just glue from the shrink wrapping that went around the car. He says he'll take it out back and have it detailed in "10 minutes". So we wait another 30 minutes... Car comes back and we notice that 80% of the scratches remain. We point these out to the salesman and he says, "Look, we only have one guy working back there at night. How long do you think it would take you to clean and detail an entire car?" I then point out that I had said earlier that I wouldn't mind picking it up tomorrow to give the dealer more time to clean it.
But, the salesman gets quite mad and says, "Fine, you don't want the car. I don't care, we rip up the paperwork and you go home" He then tells this to the sales manager in charge that night who states to us, "You are welcome to leave and we'll just rip up the paperwork." We felt that this was quite UNPROFESSIONAL AND RUDE especially since we had never said a thing about wanting to renege on the deal.
After some arguments about what constitutes a "scratch", we decided that we would just come back tomorrow after they've had time to clean and detail the car properly. We did not get home until 11:30 that night. We did return the next day and the car was fine and we drove it home.
We got a good price otherwise we would have went to ANY other dealer but felt that this customer treatment was quite RIDICULOUS and VERY RUDE. I recommend that you buy your Honda from ANY OTHER dealer who will treat you in a more courteous and professional manner.
To the sales manager's credit, he did apologize to us the next morning but we got no such apology from our salesman.
All prices include destination charge.
Anderson Honda- Palo Alto: $17988 + TTL
Serramonte Honda- Daly City: $18000 + TTL
Grace Honda- San Bruno: $18388 + TTL
Mike Harvey- Burlingame: $18584 + TTL
Carsdirect price: $18459 + TTL
Stevens Creek Honda: $18634 + TTL
Menlo Honda: $19533 + TTL
I feel like if all consumers were to post information like this on boards then prices can only get better for everyone.
Thanks again everyone, I could not have done it without you!
just wanted to say what a terrific experience it was. the internet sales mgr was very patient and not at all nasty when it came down to the last few hundred off. i initially said if anyone can come in under 17, i would do it. lo and behold nearly everyone came in under it. my best px was actually 16,630 but that was thru an insider at a NJ dealer. nanuet guy explained that there were dealer fees in NJ that they would charge that will total over 175. and sure enough it was true... nanuet can as a NY dealer can only charge 45 by law. so net net, same px. i went to them because they were honest, patient and straight forward. no different when i got there to sign paper work. showed me the actual cars in color i wanted and i chose the exact car for delivery. everyone should do that if poss as i've had an experience with buying a new car only to discover at delivery that there was a paint chip. the dealer was pretty indifferent about that as the sale was completed. they gave me touch up paint and sent me on my way.
either way, while it is a stripped down version accord. i still have the same 4cyl engine, suspension, air bags, abs, pwr windows, locks. no traction control but i intend to use this as a light duty zip around town car. i am very pleased with the purchase.
accord for less than a stripped civic LX. oh what a feeling!
Well, you can believe what you want to believe; I assure you it matters to me not. Like I said, there are scores of dings around the car, but they are tiny and they're not noticeable from a distance of more than a few feet. The dealer is Gunn Honda (of San Antonio)http://gunnhonda.com/main/
To me, the dings don't affect my enjoyment of the car one iota and I simply can't imagine how tiny hail dings are going to affect the mechanical functioning of the car, so I'm not sure I understand why the insurance person would advise against it... But, anyway, that's the story.
It was a good price despite the horrible service.