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I in the market for a new car and it seems like this one here has all the bells and whistles, but was wondering if I can get any input about the quote.
including that MRCC AND FOW PACKAGE. OTD = $32,580
I never BUY a new car in its first model year. The complexity of these cars today does not exclude the possibility of "growing pains" in the first year. You might want to consider leasing it BUT the current Mazda Capital Services terms are not very good. When supplies are short, prices will not be good. If you can, I'd wait a few months to see if incentives pop up. GL
Are you saying that for about 2k she can trade up from the elantra to the "6"; i don't think so.
Post real deals, not bs crap. 19k for the new mazda 6 is a pipe dream...post the dealer name and location if you are serious
There's the rub. That's huge. Dealer fee in IL is limited by state law at $161 or something like that. Still a great deal though on a brand new car that has just hit the lots. Seems a shame though that Mazda is already discounting what appears to be a great car in just about all respects and a leader IMO in the midsize sedans at this point in time.
Congrats on the car. I sat in one at the Chicago auto show and was impressed with the quality of the switches and dials(better than on my 2007), styling and specs.
Keep in mind that Mazda is 1/10th(that's a guess but probably close) the size company as Toyota and many of the rest you mention so nobody ever expects Mazda to be in that league of sales. Doesn't change the quality of the car, just means you see a few less. I look at it this way. If they were to suffer a major recall for some reason it would affect their bottom line to a greater degree than a much larger company. I like to think that they are more careful in their engineering and quality control to avoid such a disaster. Toyota can afford something like that, Mazda really would be hurting.
Yeah, the 3 is their bread and butter but the CX-5 has been selling like hot cakes and probably has a good profit margin like most Suvs/Cuvs which is good for Mazda. I still don't understand why I haven't seen any ads for the new 6. Maybe supply from Japan is in such short supply that they are afraid to advertise it much until they build up some inventory or get rid of the 2013s. Come to think of it that may be the main reason....old stock and maybe a lack of advertising money. They have to meter out the dollars a lot more judiciously than some of the bigger companies.
Good luck with your new zoom-zoom.
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Msrp 25,290
Selling price 24,500
State Tax 1,531.25
Dealer Tax 65.41
Doc. Fee 125.00
Deputy Fee 5,00
License Title Regis St 126.00
Balance Due 26,352.66
How does $22,600 + TTL sound for a hard-to-find 6 Touring 6MT...that's how I ended up getting mine last 5/18.
I love to work on my cars, so I am actually now in the middle of adding OEM 2014 Mazda 6 accessories myself (all weather mats, bumper guard, scuff plates...next purchase, the fogs). Getting the OEM stuff after purchase of the car is EASY and alot CHEAPER, than with them already installed upon delivery.
Also, I was quite surprised that I only paid $450 over a 6 Sport 6AT at invoice ($22,150; via KBB.com).
But the crazy thing is that it's $80/year cheaper to insure than my 2006 Mazda3 s 5-door! Both vehicles have identical coverage limits, same deductibles and rated for the same driver and annual mileage.
But I can't exactly complain, I carry Liability Limits of 500/500/100 and matching Uninsured/Underinsured Motorist limits. My Collision deductible is $500 and Comprehensive deductible is $100. I pay $1120/year for both cars with that level of coverage....my agent is pretty awesome (me)!
Talk about legalized thievery. I was told by my agent once that if I made a claim for $500 damage to another vehicle my rate would go up by that amount for each of the next three years. Needless to say I paid the claim from my personal funds. Don't bother to tell me to check other companies. This has been a universal problem with any company I have been with.
The entire concept of “No Fault Auto Insurance” is flawed because it only works under ideal circumstances and in a perfect society...which only exists in fairy tales! It was the product of the hippee/utopian world fantasies of the late 60s and early 70s. At its height, in 1975, 26 states had adopted no-fault auto insurance law.
At the end of 2012, only 13 states have retained the no-fault system. In each of those 13, various modifications in law and policy have been made in an attempt to fix the problem. But, at best, they’re just trying to bail out a sinking boat using a thimble!
The intended objective of No-Fault was to reduce insurance premiums by limiting litigation and eliminating obscene court-ordered insurance payouts that weren’t merited. Instead, the system is plagued by fraud and corruption. The ability to properly assess risk for an individual driver and adjust the insurance premium commensurate to that is also difficult, if not impossible! So insurers err on the side of caution and premiums are set at an artificially high level.
Georgia, where I live and am licensed to sell insurance, was one of the 26 states that adopated the no-fault system in the 70s. It was repealed in 1991 and premiums dropped by 20% within one year and have remained steady for more than two decades.
As a consumer and an insurance agent, I am in the minority in supporting federal oversight of insurance law instead of each state having its own screwed up system! Of the five states that border Georgia, only the laws and regulations in Albama are similar. The other four have substantial differences from us and from one another....it’s chaos!
But I feel especially bad for you and other Michigan residents. The political officials in your state aren’t exactly the cream of the crop...the phrase “bottom of the barrel” comes to mind for some reason. I think they all wear t-shirts that say “They had to promote (or elect) me, there was nobody left” on casual Friday!
Ironically, one of the best insurance companies in the country is based in Lasing, MI. Auto-Owners has been rated #1 in Auto Claims Satisfaction in the entire industry for five consecutive years. My grandparents and parents have been insured by them for over 25 years. I was seriously injured in 2001 when I was t-boned by an uninsured drunk driver. I was driving my mom's SUV to pick up a table that I wanted but couldn't fit in my car. Her Uninsured Motorist paid over $90k in Medical Expenses and Lost Wages and did so with no hassle if documentation of expenses was provided. That experience is what inspired me to work in the insurance business and at an independent agency that represented Auto-Owners.
I did not put any cash down on my 6MT Touring and it makes no sense pouring more "liquidity"/cash in a depreciating asset (car's are one of them). The "big hit" (depreciation) starts the instant you drive the car off the dealer lot (my usual substantial down, it's sitting at Wall St, "rolling-the-dice", saved for over a year now).
Compare the rate of return (of my down) versus 0.74% for 48mos on my CU loan. My interest out of pocket for 4yrs = $359.77 (with trade in factored in, net cost).
Usually, it's impossible to evaluate a deal if a trade-in is involved, but in your case, since you only got $1,000, the most you could have gotten over book is $1,000 and that would mean your car was worth absolutely nothing so even if that was the case, you would still be well above invoice so unless you are in an area where you are captive to one dealer, you should have done better on the price.
Without knowing the residual, money factor (appears to be .00027 based on recent posts) and what other items you may have put in the lease (fees, tax, registration, etc), I can't tell you if the $246 was the appropriate number so I can't tell without more data whether you got the benefit of the Mazda loyalty or if the dealer pocketed it. If you provide that, I will let you know. Even if you could have done a little better, you are still getting a lot of car for the money. Enjoy it.
Residual is $14,162.40. I traded a 2000 Mazda Millenia with 230, 000k miles. I did have the lease Factor but I threw it away I believe it was in the neighborhood of 00055.
I ended up paying 22,800 out the door (after 6% tax and transfer tag). How did I do?
The V6 engine and 6-speed Automatic are really the only difference between the two.
I recommend that “Technology Package” on either model. It includes- Mazda Advanced Keyless Entry System (smart key), Push-button Start, Driver’s Seat Memory, Power Passenger Seat, Auto on/off Xenon headlights, Auto-dimming Homelink Rearview Mirror, Rain-sensing wipers, Heated outside mirrors, LED tail lights and SIRIUS satellite radio w/ 4-month free trial.
The NAV system is a matter of personal preference, but I wasn’t very impressed with it when I bought my 2012 CX-9 last year (same NAV system). I didn’t think it was worth $2k. But the 3.7L V6 and Aisin 6-speed AT are a SWEET combination!
I’m still seeing up to $8k off MSRP on leftover 2013 models, so I’d shoot for at least that. They’ve been sitting on the lot for a long time and the dealers are motivated to move them, so I suggest starting out at $9k under sticker and going from there ..
Good luck .btw, even though the Tech Package has a lot of awesome features, I wouldn’t let the lack of it cause me to pass over a great deal!
But on the 2013 Mazda6 Grand Touring, the Bose 10-speaker audio and Power Moonroof are standard as well as Heated Leather Seats, Dual-zone Climate Control and Rearview Camera. I’m a huge fan of the Blind Spot Monitor (BSM) on my CX-9 and it is standard on the Mazda6 Touring Plus and higher models. For 2013, the 18” wheels from the ‘s’ Grand Touring were also made standard on the 4-cylinder ‘i’ Grand Touring.
I looked back at Consumer Reports fuel economy figures for an i Sport (2.5L/5AT) and s Grand Touring (3.7L/6AT). The difference is pretty substantial (24mpg vs. 20mpg overall) with the main difference being in actual highway mileage. The 4-cylinder still has more than sufficient power, so you’re probably wise to stick with the i GT.
I’ve only driven a 2013 Mazda6 with Black Leather (a loaner while my CX-9 was having a headlight assembly replaced under warranty). The look and feel were on par with my CX-9 and, in my opinion, better than my dad’s 2010 Accord and the Altimas and Camrys I’ve rented with leather over the last few years. The assembly quality and quality of other interior materials was also impressive.
Because the 2014 models went on sale in January, remaining 2013 models are scarce (as you’ve mentioned). Most of the ones you’ll find have the Tech Pkg and NAV and their $32-$34k MSRP is the reason they’re sitting unsold.
As for meeting CA emissions- it looks like cars for the following states have the ULEV Emissions:
CA, CT, MA, MD, ME, NJ, NM, NY, OR, PA, RI, VT, WA.
If you aren’t able to find a new 2013 that fits the bill, there’s always Mazda CPO used models to consider. The 2011 was slightly revised/updated with new headlight & fog light designs and new 17” alloys. The main interior updates were a new steering wheel design, upgraded instrument panel and premium interior trim. The rearview camera was also added to GT models. So I’d look for a 2011 or newer model if I went with a CPO!
Good luck and hope this info helps! Post here to let me know how things work out for you!
I'm not sure where you're located in California, but I did some searching in the Los Angeles area. I found a sharp 2013 Mazda6 i Grand Touring with 5764 miles on it, CPO, Silver/Black Leather and Rear Spoiler. It doesn't have the Tech Pkg or NAV and it's priced at $21,288. It's at Mazda of Puente Hills located in City of Industry. (I was actually using my cousin's zip code in Woodland Hills when I found it).
Being a CPO, you'd get the balance of the 3-year/36k Limited Warranty, then an additional 1-year/12k CPO Limited Warranty. The Powertrain Warranty would cover 7-year/100k from original date of sale.
It looks brand new....just thought you might want to check it out.
Links to the Mazda Media Website-
2011 Mazda6- http://www.mazdausamedia.com/index.php?s=31676&item=1028#assets_71:319
2012 Mazda6- http://www.mazdausamedia.com/index.php?s=31676&item=974
2013 Mazda6- http://www.mazdausamedia.com/index.php?s=31676&item=1062
The link will take you the first page with the official Press Release for that year model. It summarizes any changes or updates but also includes lots of marketing “fluff”.
There are two other tabs for each model year- Photos and Documents. The Photos tab contains lots of high-resolution photos, inside and out and in a variety of colors. But the really useful information is found on the Documents tab. You’ll find two (2) PDFs on that tab, one called SPECIFICATIONS and the other PRICING. SPECIFICATIONS is usually 8-11 pages long and itemizes every minute detail change compared to the previous model year, then it has charts to indicates which features are standard and which are optional on each trim level. PRICING is just a one-pager with a listing of every trim level available and its MSRP, all factory options/packages and prices, and all ‘accessories’ that can be included on the car from the factory (which are otherwise available from the dealer). It also details the contents of all Option Packages.
I’ve always found the info VERY useful, especially since Mazda changed the content or trim levels on the 2009-2013 Mazda6 EVERY YEAR (literally)!
The one that caught my eye as a potential great deal was the 2013 'i' Grand Touring, Steel Blue w/ Black Leather and the only option is the Rear Wing Spoiler. The Sticker Price is $28,980 (since it doesn't have the Tech Pkg or NAV), so it could end up selling for around $22k or so....
I also ran across a NEW 2012 'i' Grand Touring that could also be a great deal. It is Black w/ Black Leather and it has the Tech Pkg and NAV. It has a Sticker Price of $31,890, but it's been sitting there for at least 18 months and, regardless of physical age, it's TWO MODEL YEARS OLD and it will be THREE MODEL YEARS old within the next month or two when the 2015 models are released!
As a Used Car, the 2012 with the same features, in Outstanding/Excellent Condition and with ZERO/ONE mile, the Suggested Retail Price ranges from $22,633 to $23,920. I priced it on Edmunds, KBB, ClearBook (on TrueCar) and NADA. So the Sticker Price or the Dealer's Invoice price are largely irrelevant to the amount you should pay for the car! The moment you drive off the lot, it will be a USED 2012 Mazda6 and worth no more then $23,900 (at most). So negotiate from that standpoint if you end up considering this 2012 model.
BTW, the Steel Blue 2013 is at Razzari Mazda in Merced, CA and the Black 2012 is at AutoNation Mazda of Roseville in Roseville, CA.