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I don’t remember what the original asking price was, but eventually the F&I guy came down to $1070 for the 7/100k AcuraCare with a $50 deductible, or, $880 for a third party warranty company with a $100 deductible. You can do better than $1070 for the accuracare package if you are willing to do some work. Three additional years on a third party warranty, but supported by Ford, for the Ford Explorer was $950 with $100 deductable.
Remember, you can buy the extended warranty at any time while your car is still covered under the manufacturer’s warranty. Although, there are additional fees involved. If my memory doesn’t fail me, I think this was the break down:
$125 after the first year or 12K
$175 after two years or 24K
$250 after three years or 36K
I’ll be watching the TL problems forum. If transmission starts blowing again, I’ll buy the warranty.
At $1,100 the warranty is not a terrible deal, just a bad one. Obviously you didn't take it because you're just as confident as I am that it would be mostly or completelly wasted money. I ever very risk averse, I would consider buying this policy, if it were around $700, for the peace of mind.
Carmax pays as close to wholesale as possible. They only keep the best, and sell the rest to other dealers. Carmax salesman told me that they get a fixed fee paid by dealers for these sales. The Carmax appraisers get paid a fixed commission for each purchase that they make. Therefore, it is in their best interest to try to give you a little more, so that you would sell the car to them.
BTW, on Saturday Carmax was listing a 2003 Type-S for $28K. Go figure.
“So when they say that the "waive" the fee in Virginia, what they do is deduct the amount of the fee from the purchase price. This way you're even-Steven, and the appearance of charging everyone the same fee is preserved.”
Bingo!
Protection package:
If you go to the Acura.com to price a car out, select the trunk tray, floors mats and mud guards. Acura comes back w/ the protection package that includes those items for $277 (installation is additional). I was charged ½ hours of labor to install the mud guards. Wheels locks are separate.
BTW: All season floor mats come only in black. They don’t look very good with light color interiors.
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-- '04 TL with Nav (silver/ebony or anthracite/ebony);
-- $34,500
-- Includes Trunk Tray, Floor Mats, Mud Guards, Wheel Locks;
-- MSRP on above package is $35,733;
-- Invoice is approx. $32,446 (not sure what "cost" on above accessories is);
-- Total deal would be approx. $2K above invoice
Thoughts?????
Has anyone else come close??
As far as NAVI version, there's still low availability in many areas, forcing people to accept prices much closer to MSRP. In these areas prices are typically about $500 off MSRP.
In areas where NAVI availability is better - 1-3 cars on the lot - one can get $1,000-2,000 off MSRP. One can expect availability of NAVI versions to improve in the next couple month.
I think the price for non-NAVI TLs will settle around $1,000 over invoice in couple months. And NAVI will be around $1,500 over invoice.
Will be pricing TL w/ Navi and will let the board know what I find out.
Thanks for your understanding.
I test-drove the BMW 525 yesterday and found their I-something-or-other system a nuisance. IMHO, it's technological overkill. Couldn't change the radio band from FM to AM as there's no FM/AM button. The AC settings likewise couldn't be changed to my satisfaction without going through the system. I can't imagine what it's like in the "7-series" as their system is supposedly 10X more complicated.
This car is for my sister and that I-system was a deal-killer. Plus the anemic 184 HP which is less than the 210 in her Avalon. The premium (leather, etc.), sport package, AT, and zenon are optional and boosted the $39.9 MSRP to almost $48K!
My sis told me that the TL was "almost too easy to drive." They already have an MDX. She paid MSRP + a discounted "pro pack" + TTL. Dealer will also net some bucks for the Avalon she traded in. We're in business and don't object to the dealer making money as long as we're happy with the price. 270 HP plus all the good stuff as standard equipment (AT, leather, Zenon, DVD-audio surround sound, moonroof, etc.) for $10K+ less than the Bimmer is a no-brainer. And she got the exterior-interior color combination she wanted.
She lives in the hills and the 86 HP advantage is no small consideration.
Buying from California, Washington, etc. is no advantage as our "sales tax" is only 4.17%. To buy in Oregon won't work as Hawaii will impose the tax when the car is landed unless it can be proven to be a "used car." Won't happen unless the odometer mileage is substantial. Plus the freight costs.
$31045 total including destination and pro-package stuff that comes on the car anyway- leased for 48 months, 12k miles a year, 53% residual, .00215 m/f or 5.16% interest makes my payment with our tax here 416.50 per month. I got mine at Santa Monica although Downey was also very aggressive.
My car is a '96 RL and my plan is to wait for the LONG overdue revision for the '05 RL - I've been told by the GSM that it may come out in August '04 and they want me to be the first sale of that car. "Special" price *wink* *wink* for me as I've owned numerous Acuras since their debut in 1986 and have always had at least one in my garage.
But, I'm now "jealous" of my sister and her TL. The question is how long my resolve can hold out. I may well weaken and go for the TL, but not for a few months until supply catches up with demand. It happened when the '91 Legend came out. In November '90, the dealer held for a $4K front-end gross profit (14%). By the time I bought an LS three months later, they offered me a 6% deal.
Last August, they were selling the RSX as fast as they unloaded it off the boat at MSRP + ADM. In January, the price was down $2.5K as they did have them in stock.
I may "settle" for the TL, but keep the '96 RL on the side - got another kid eligible for a driver's license and I'll need the spare wheels.
My sister called me again to tell me how happy they are with the TL.
When you mentioned your paymnets, I figured you had to have laid out a ton of dough to get it that low.
As a matter of fact- I think your payment is the lowest I have seen so far in terms of leasing a 2004.
I know this isn't a bad deal but would it be considered a good deal in Los Angeles. I understand that the combo i'm looking for in the TL is one of the hardest to get so i think that factors into the kinda deal i got.
I enjoy the smooth ride, interior room, and larger trunk capacity of the RL (after all, it is 11" longer) and it has served me well, in particular since I bought it pre-owned for only $20K. But, the TL is nicely packaged with a lot more power and other niceties. Other than size, the TL fits the bill more as Acura's flagship.
I may not wait for the '05 RL and its rumored hybrid 300 HP V-6 + 100 HP electric motor with AWD. The sketches are also intriguing, but a $50K sticker price, though acceptable, will be $17K more than the TL.
Anyone?
$33,200. - includes destination charge,wood knob,
splash guards,all-season floor mats,
trunk tray, and 1 extra key
$199. - conveyance fee
plus tax and title.
Unfortunately, I had to order the car, and do not expect delivery until Feb. 04.
A no hassle quote from carsdirect.com gave me the 1st indication that the car can be bought for way less than msrp ($31,668 was the quote). Long story short, I ended up doing business with a dealership in another state (90 miles away) for $31,100 with protection package. I still think i gave the dealer a nice christmas bonus, so don't be afraid to go low, below $31000. remember, honda gives a 3% holdback to the dealer which is a very significant amount.
Thanks
I probably could have gotten a better
deal, so you may want to even go lower.
The invoice is $31,758 (without destination charge) and their's a holdback of $1,046.
So, they are still doing ok.
Good luck. Let us know how you do.
Sounds like you got a great deal. Best offer I have in Chicago (so far) is around $34K (including destination charge), which comes with mud guards, trunk tray, wheel locks, and winter floor mats. Your deal sounds like it's about $1K over invoice...mine is around $1600. Has anyone seen better for nav yet?
$33995 for TL, plus trunk tray and floor mats
$ 2124 accessories (underside spoilers, deck spoiler, body side molding, moonroof visor)
$ 2250 trade
Total damage came to $33869.
They still have to locate the car, but I should be hearing about it in a day or two.
How'd I do?
Marquis
Think I did okay? feel free to e-mail me if you want any specifics