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Have you read the article? It was very complimentary to all makes for their various attributes. Dodge with its ground clearance clearly had some advantages off-road. Chevy with its interior room and power. I believe that the writers seemed non-biased and gave each truck a fair shake.
Please don't insult me like you have some others.
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It was I think, Z71bill that actually read the article and he seemed to have gotten a much brighter picture of the Chevy rating than the Tundra owners. Of course, it always seems to turn out that way, doesn't it?
I do agree with you they said many good things about all the trucks and also pointed out the flaws. I thought the Tundra pushed to the top because they picked it for the truck of the year award. Not because of the actual testing they did.
One minor thing I noticed in the article. The Silverado was listed as EPA class - full size pickup, all the others were EPA class- standard pickup. Was this just poor proof reading on their part - what is the difference between full size and standard size pickup? Not that I trust our government agencies to get anything right, but why the difference?
I was also surprised that the Silverado beats the Tundra in acceleration (up to 70MPH anyway - ahead by 25 feet in the 1/4 mile), holds the skid pad better, and has a sharper turning radius - all the posts I have seen from Tundra owners claim the Toy is better in these areas.
The magazine picked their all-stars.
The Silverado was picked 1st. Not much of an article, but I think they got it right.
They also posted the results of their reader survey. The readers picked:
1st F-150
2nd Silverado
3rd Tundra
4th Ram
Bottom like is buy what makes you happy. They (auto mags) can't agree any more than we can on who makes "the best" 1/2 ton truck.
There would be NO WAY M/T wouldn't declare the Toy the winner, how would that make them look on their truck of the year award?
Your Dakota R/T got looks because it is a badass little hauler.....worth twice what a Tundra is worth.
I personally would have a terrible gear whine on my Ford so they would have to replace that "noisy" rear end. Of course I'd have to foot the bill for the front, about $600 for some 4.56's!!
Hey I don't trash anybody's else's ride, as I know enough about them all to have both respect and likes and dislikes of all the makes. I would appreciate the same respect back, anybody who knows a little bit about cars and trucks should have some respect for the Tundra, let's face it, the truck has made waves in an industry that is usually unshakeable. If it doesn't fit your needs great, if it does, give it a try it is a quite capable truck.
I am of course not an off roader so I have really no idea what I am talking about. With the exception of a little Off roading I have done years ago in a Jeep.
Just curious, as I really like to take care of my cars and trucks.
It is a truck and that is what you pay the big bucks for....purpose and utility, not shiny paint coats and pretty wheels.
Thats why when I pay 25-30k for a truck, I buy one that can take the abuse and keep on going, which is why I chose the Silverado.
By the way, I applaud your efforts to not actually read any articles comparing the Tundra to other full-size pickups. I's sure you'd hate to have any of your precious convictions shaken.
BTW: I have now seen Tundra state work trucks in Maryland, Baltimore County, TN, Davidson County and Virginia, Don't really know where the hell I was. All were single work trucks with extended cabs. Probably 2wd, couldn't tell. It would seem that these states or countys are possibly testing the Tundra to see if the perceived reliability holds up. I can't believe states are considering forgein vehicles for work trucks. I hope Toyota doesn't start offering big fleet discounts, I kinda like having one of the few Tundra's around.
What I would say is a wasteful expense for a Farm truck is anything for "looks" like fancy wheels or special exterior doo dads.
This unit determines the oil pressure and sends the reading to your oil gauge. I had the same problem with my 1981 Pontiac T/A.
Sorry to say the Tundra oil pressure gauge at idle is almost 0. This would bother me, although I know it is normal and within specification. What you describe is not normal.
The owners of the Big 3 should be applauding the Tundra. Competition is good for product design. It makes the competing product a better build. So see guys you will get something out of all the Tundra fuss...a better truck!!
And all this fuss about farming...I DO NOT FARM!! And could care less if it works great on a farm or not an a farm! Besides, isn't farming a dying industry? Most people can't make a living anymore working a farm, sad I agree, but technology is changing everything. And now it has touched the truck sector of the auto market...introduction of the TUNDRA.
Men,the rules have changed...follow or rust on the side of the road.
Anybody who thought they had a real reading on a Ford will be concerned that the Tundra pressure gauge drops at idle. It is supposed to drop. As long as it does not drop off the scale, you are fine.
I don't know what Chevy has but I am positive about the Ford.
Them tundras aint in there first year now. They just be this years "t100". Changin that style of a truck and its brandin name dont make it "brand new". Them Chevrolets changed there brandin and style in 1999 from C/K to Silverado, that dont make em a "first year" truck either, just that first year for a restyled truck. Them tundras just be a restyled t100 now. Fact is the fact on this. So bein in the top 50 in sales after bein out for many a year aint nothin for them tundras to be braggin on. Good luck on this one now!
the Tundras performance here are a few facts..
1. Motor Trend Truck of the Year
2. Faster than a Mustang GT.
3. Rated #1 in Customer Satisfaction for Trucks
not to mention... much more attractive than the
big-3 trucks.. man have you seen the new chevys?
yuk. Quieter, smoother, has more STANDARD
options than any full size. better warranty.
more more more..
I test drove every model from mid size to full
size, dodge, ford, chevy, nissan over the past
month.. the Tundra wins hands down.
I use mine to tow a 5100 CASE bobcat w/trailer
and it performs like a dream.
...I DONT THINK I GOT SUCH A GREAT DEAL AS SOME OF
YOU GUYS THOUGH...PAID $25,200 for 2000 SR5 Access
C Hall
Louisville, Ky
Cab with Liner, BenchSeats, Alarm, V8, cd/cass."
A few more facts.
1. The motortrend anything of the year is always whatever is newest. Last year it was Silverado. It was the F150 when that came out.
2. Who cares what it can outrace. Trucks are not race cars. They are work vehicles. Only an idiot pays for a pickup when he wants a race car.
3. Rated by whom?
It has more standard options and it is consequently more expensive. And how much does your boat with trailer weigh? The Tundra's max towing capacity tops out before 8000 lbs doesn't it? The Big 3's just keep going up and up with your choice of packages and options. Maybe what you meant to say was it's best for your towing needs but not best outright.
1)larger cab
2)new front suspension
3)new frame
4)new engine
This exact thing can be said of that Silverado, or just bout any fresh design of an existin truck now. Facts is the facts, them tundras be just the "new" t100 for this year.
Here what that Truckin magazine had to say on them tundras now:
This years T100...
Good luck on this one now!
To give you an example, when they first came out, we sold them at $2500 over invoice. There were enough people who had to have them and supply was limited enough to do that. then, it began to drop. At its low point, I was at $500 over invoice. Now, on the 4x4 V8 Access cabs, I am at $854 over invoice and that may go up soon unless I get a bunch in quickly.
Fact: Mustang GT, 0-60 5.4 seconds
1/4 mile 14.0 seconds @ 100 mph.
Top speed aprox. 150 mph.
Fact: Tundra, 0-60 8.0 seconds
1/4 mile 16.2 seconds @ 85.7 mph
Top speed aprox 100 mph.
While I agree on who cares how fast a truck is please check your facts before posting asinine remarks.
IT's not quick enough to stay with the newest mustang but some of the previous model's 200-215 hp GT versions probably would have only beat the Tundra by a hare in a drag race. But once again I digress, this is a truck not a muscle car or sports car. It tries to be both but does not measure up well as either.
I think I can see the reason for all the added topics.
I suspect that the posters that are really interested in talking about Tundras have been frustrated, and thus tried adding different topics, by the infiltration of the likes of "Truks is us", Tank a sore us", "Rube blew too much gas" taking over any topic they choose to push their own brand of Big 3 twisted logic.
I also suspect that your policing of this board will have to continue as long as there are individuals like that out there.
This is a very useful board, keep up the good work.
The figures I quoted on the performance #'s were from the May 2000 MOTOR TREND.
Believe it or not I like the Tundra but it won't fit my needs pulling my boat, family and gear to Lake Mead.