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We've discussed this before, but I still don't know what to make of them. I know they appear on the factory invoice, but I don't know if they are actually assessed against the dealer by DC or if instead they are pure profit to the dealer.
Just curious since my deal's done.
Bookitty
lmeyer1. When I negotiated my purchase price on my Quad ($160 UNDER invoice} the dealer never mentioned any advertising fee. If you consider the farm bureau rebate, I got mine Quad for $660 UNDER invoice less the $45 to join Farm Bureau. The only other fee I had to pay was a #39 documentation and Titling fee which they would not budge on.
I guess the deal you can work out depends on demand and the part of the country you live in. I guess I'm fortunate to be living in Ford and Chevy country. I've got a relative on my wifes side who is (was) a devout Chevy Owner. After having 2 3/4 ton Chevy diesel 4x4 pickups back to back fail to survive harsh farm duty him he tried a Ram 4x4 diesel and has really been satisfied with its endurance. Rick
Just a bit more on the "ad fees"... I can't speak definitively on DC, but I CAN say that Ford dealership financial statements include line items for advertising expense (monthly) and advertising PNVR (per new vehicle retailed).
I believe this is a function of BOTH dealer-incurred expenses for such things as newspaper, direct-mail, radio and TV (as applicable) plus co-op advertising (dealer and manufacuterer co-funding of primarily direct-mail).
It's a legitimate cost-of-sale item that's spread over the dealer's unit-sales for the month. Of course, the argument is that if you're buying, say a Neon versus an LHS, ad fees should correlate with the MSRP... Not sure how that works, but I'll be CERTAIN to find out and report back by the end of next week!
Allen-
Thanks for listening. 2000 miles and still Quading.
Now the venting. Took my truck in a week ago to get a Line-X bedliner installed. Well the idoits never clean the filter on their gun so guess what happens. One side get clogged and I'm stuck with a liner that won't hardened. Took it back in Wednesday its supposed to be done today, Friday.
They have to peel the whole thing back out. The bottom part stuck very well and isn't peeling very easily. All I can see is it better be right when I pick it up or there will be hell to pay ie. a new bed. Now I feel better, TGIF.
Second, as to whether they're really part of the dealer's cost or pure profit, haven't been able to figure that out, but look at post #221 from Towcrazy who has some thoughts on the subject.
Crawled under the truck in the rain to scope it out... In better weather, I doubt there will be too many problems. Just thought I'd ask the group whether any of you have removed the front bumper fascia on a Sport model... If so, any tips or cautions???
Here are some interesting numbers from the January 2000 Four Wheeler magazines "Pickup Truck Of The Year" competition, which the Quad Cab Dak won
of course! They tested a '00 Ram w/360, '00 Dak Quad Cab w/4.7, Nissan
Frontier Crew Cab, and a Toyota Tundra TRD w/4.7. All were 4x4's obviously.
What I found interesting were the published horsepower figures in relation to
their actual dyno figures.
Ram 360 V8 mfg rated - 245 hp 335 tq Dyno at rear wheels - 215 hp 294 tq
Dak 287 V8 mfg rated - 235 hp 295 tq Dyno at rear wheels - 218 hp 246 tq
Toy 285 V8 mfg rated - 245 hp 315 tq Dyno at rear wheels - 198 hp 245 tq
The only caveat is the Ram and Tundra auto transmissions and the Dak had the
NV3500 5 speed manual.
Looks like the 'fierce' Tundra has torque and horsepower numbers that are a
little on the 'liberal' side....
Glad to hear the good news on both bookitty and tpmiller1. And a hello to ace62.
Did want to note that I recently received the "Big Orange Book" for the Dakota 2000 series. This will allow me to back-up bpebbles from time to time but he's always first.
In the third week now and I'm noticing how easy the wheels spin in first gear (have LSD). More chirping than all out smoking. Stopped listening to the radio. Anywhere around 2,000 rpm's is "music" to my ears.
Now with the "fleet" down to four vehicles (I got the truck) and four drivers (two teenage sons), I'm only paying $3,224 / year for insurance. It would probably be double that if I lived down bookitty's way.
And yes, my wife is very happy with her two new kittens.
Here in Motown, those of us who've made our living in connection with the auto industry for awhile have a sort of "cars are cars" attitude... Doesn't matter what badge is on the hood, they're all kind of "the same."
Not so with the Quad... It truly is a remarkable piece of work! And in comparison with the Ram, it feels as though I'm driving a doggone Porche!
Nuff said...
Again... Anyone removed the front bumper fascia on a Sport model? Getting ready to get out there and do it, but would appreciate any cautions/advice!
robert
and really loved the area. It's a great place to live, especially if you can avoid I-66 in the morning and afternoon. Good luck.
Bookitty
PS Love the truck, and am getting many compliments
regarding the Amber Fire Pearl paint job. Only glitch has been the air bag light and chime. Lights and chimes at random. Thank goodness that it hasn't deployed
I am trying to buy a quad cab here in BC and am having difficulties with the lease company which we are still tied in with (lifestyle change before the lease is up). They keep saying they have found a vehicle for us but all vehicles seem to have what we do not want and missing what we want. Gave up on V6 (apparently "none in BC") But it sounds as if the 4.7 will better suit our needs anyway and is not much more to run and not much worse to the environment emission wise. Other than the occassional use for business and shopping, the vehicle will be used on weekends for 4 adults + 1 child + 1 dog + gear (in canopy) + towing 12' boat. Test drove the 4.7 yesterday. Felt even better than the rental 5.9 I had taken for a 100 km spin at a cost of $14 for gas.
Also gave up on the ABS all around. Also "none available in BC". Uncomfortable choice though, since the Windstar we now have has been good with the ABS - gotten out of a few bad situations thanks to it.
Dealers keep finding the extras we do not want/need which cost more money [why is that? :-)]
How do I find out the invoice price for here in BC (Canadian $'s)?
Still trying to sell our windstar privately in order to not loose $4,000. Read an article in local paper that private sales within 7 days of purchasing a vehicle can save the cost of sales tax! Lots of work, but then so is earning $4K after taxes :-)
Problems needing your input:
- Wait until September 2001 or marked down 2000 when Windstar is sold privately whichever comes first? Price change for 2001's? Loss in trade-in September? Or worse still wait until May 2001 when lease is finished and one year older without Quad Cab and 12 months of BC interior fishing.
- ABS all around?
- Bite the bullet and take on the cost for overhead and CD even though we do not think we need them?
Thanks for your patience with this newbie.
www.cs.fredonia.edu/~stei0302/www/DAKOTA/order_status.html
Bookitty
Ron
It is a simple OPEN differential within the xfer case. (I will not re-hash that here...please just search and read yourself)
The ShiftOnTheFly system (that is standard) combined with the LSD rear-end is perhaps the very best traction combonation you can get from the factory on the Dakota. That was my selection on my 2000 Dakota and it made this winters 2-foot snowstorms FUN to drive through. (Normal cars could not move all day in one storm and i drove 80 miles thru it!!)
One correction to your append.(And I will repeat it here because this seems to be a common misconception) THE DAKOTA FULL-TIME 4WD IS NO WHERE NEAR THE SAME AS JEEPS LEGONDARY 4WD SYSTEM.
(please ref http://www.ashacorp.com/gerodisc.html
for a descriptin of Jeeps 4WD system.)
Bookitty
I have posted new photos of Quads on my little
web site...plus a few new graphics to try
out. Let me know what ya think. And what you
think about the trucks...
Thanks BigAl and Shelley for the photos.
All for now.
www.ocis.net/~rbeve/dakotapage1.htm
Warning....slow loading page.
R.
Bookitty
Thanks again for posting the photos. These are all beautiful trucks. I am still amazed the attention the Quad gets whether I'm on the road, parked near my favorite trout stream, or parked at Wal-mart. This truck looks as good as it drives.
I think you mentioned that the your "truck" shop installed the "box" that enabled your headlights to become day-time running lights. Any luck on finding out what the box is and where I might be able to find one? Hope I'm remembering right.