Mystery car pix

kyfdx · March 2009

I'm pretty sure thats the new generation Civic that came out in '81...

fintail · March 2009

Old Civic wagon:

New Civic wagon (which appears longer than the tall looking one in the original photo):

kyfdx · March 2009

I still think it's the latter one...

If you had a front-end shot of the old one, it would be pretty clear, I think...

I'm wrong a lot in this forum, though... guess that's why I'm not the host, here.. :shades:

lokki · March 2009

fintail · March 2009

This is the only shot I could find of the front of an old model:

Amazing that such stuff exists on the internet at all

fintail · March 2009

I don't know what it is, but that's a big engine

texases · March 2009

If I still had the Cycle World (3 years ago?) this was featured in, I could look it up, but it's long gone. World's shortest W engine?

boomchek · March 2009

Mystery wagon seen earlier:

76-79 Wagon: Same as yours fintail:

80-83 Wagon:

While wagon browsing, I also saw this:

(Apparenlty it's photoshopped)

So that makes the mystery wagon a 79 or older. You can tell by the angle of the C pillars.

andys120 · March 2009

I think the Civic is more like a 79 or so...the Chevy beside it appears to be a 55. Nice pair

Fintail gets them both! Hemmings thinks the seller is on crack, figures a clean '79 Civic CVCC wagon is worth perhaps $2,400.

berri · March 2009

Is that an obscured Hudson to the right of the early 50's GM car?

andys120 · March 2009

Is that an obscured Hudson to the right of the early 50's GM car?

Hard to say, it could be a 49ish Packard.

andys120 · March 2009

lemko · March 2009

That's a 1967 Chrysler Imperial.

mpoisson1 · March 2009

I think it is the former one - look at the front turn signal repeater. It is more square then rectangular. Also, the fender lines are the same on the former one and the $8900 one.

andys120 · March 2009

That's 1967 Imperial Crown to you!

andys120 · March 2009

lokki · March 2009

Gee for such a sharp eyed group, it seems no one noticed the 3rd cylinder hanging off that Harley engine in the bike photo above.

The bike is a Feuling W-3 with 150 Cubic Inch 3 cylinder design - essentially a Harley twin with an extra cylinder grafted on to it.

http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2007/06/03/feuling-w3-powered-motorcycle-heade- d-to-bonneville/

Ah well, that's what happens when you post a picture that is 2 wheels short, even if it does have a 3rd cylinder.

texases · March 2009

"Gee for such a sharp eyed group, it seems no one noticed the 3rd cylinder hanging off that Harley engine in the bike photo above. "

That's what I meant by "World's shortest W engine? "...

boomchek · March 2009

Facel Vega of some sorts

fintail · March 2009

I think it's a HK500

andys120 · March 2009

Yep, 1959 Facel Vega HK500 powered by a MoPar 383 V8.

andys120 · March 2009

fintail · March 2009

First series Maserati Quattroporte, mid 60s

andys120 · March 2009

First series Maserati Quattroporte, mid 60s

Correcto.

andys120 · March 2009

tmart · March 2009

78 Volare?

stephen987 · March 2009

Brazilian Chevy Opala?

andys120 · March 2009

Yep, it's a 1978 Chevrolet Opala from Brazil.

andys120 · March 2009

"Mr. Bush, what would it take for you to buy this car today">

stephen987 · March 2009

ZAZ (Zaphorozetz). Peculiar Russian thing--air-cooled rear mounted V4 with a plastic timing gear.

boomchek · March 2009

It also had an oil heater. Meaning you had to put oil into the heater to make it work. No oil = no heat.

andys120 · March 2009

Yep that's the ZAZ 968, the last of the line which were basically copies of the NSU Prinz.

Feel free to make up your own caption for the photo

lokki · March 2009

Look at the Ground Clearance on that thing! It's higher than a lot of American Market SUV's I think!

andys120 · March 2009

Look at the Ground Clearance on that thing! It's higher than a lot of American Market SUV's I think!

Not too surprising considering that rural roads in Russia are probably a bit more challenging than the parking lots at Starbucks where our SUVs usually go. :P

andys120 · March 2009

stephen987 · March 2009

Well, I'm gonna say it's some species of late-'50s/early-'60s Ferrari--a 250 GT LWB?

phil112 · March 2009

how do i post a picture?

stever · March 2009

Please see the Help link below for "How to Post a Photo" - I'd paste the info in here but the HTML coding gets lost.

Photos must be uploaded to a web site or hosting service. This will generate a URL that you can use. Once you have the URL, you can use the Img button below the posting box to insert the photo address or use the HTML coding that's shown in the Help link.

You can upload your photos to your personal CarSpace page and host them there.

andys120 · March 2009

You're on the right track, it is a long wheelbase 250GT. These were bodied by Scaglietti from a Pininfarina design and named 250GT Berlinetta "Tour de France" celebrating Ferrari's mid 50s victories in the long distance French road race similar to the Mille Miglia, not the bicycle race.

There were a very few SWB TDFs also known as "Interim Berlinettas".

andys120 · March 2009

stephen987 · March 2009

My dad's best friend had one of these when I was a kid. same color and everything, but wiht four doors. I believe it's a 1960 Dodge Dart Seneca.

andys120 · March 2009

Right Stephen, Slant Six/225 CID.

andys120 · March 2009

stever · March 2009

VW Squareback. Oh, 1968? No, the rear lights are different. '74?

My wife's family had one of those Type 3's and a Fastback. She hated them.

fintail · March 2009

VW Type 4, the 411/412 - the wagon was called "Variant" and I believe these cars had their fair share of problems. Steve is on the right track, as this car was seen as a slightly upmarket replacement for the squareback.

stephen987 · March 2009

From what I can see of the front fender, this one is a 412. The 411 had a rounded nose, while that of the 412 was more like the prow of a boat, or a '70s BMW. Not the high water mark for VW quality, though VW continued to build cars based on it for the Brazilian market till the early '80s.

wgrafer · March 2009

"Not the high water mark for VW quality" I'm not sure that VW has ever hit the ever-elusive "high water mark".

stephen987 · March 2009

I'm not sure that VW has ever hit the ever-elusive "high water mark".

In Europe VWs are widely praised for quality, and prospective buyers sometimes wait months for coveted models such as the high-output diesels. Then again, they are competing against Renault, Peugeot, and Fiat.

A lot of folks want to blame Mexican assembly plants for the supposed decline of VW quality in the US market. They've forgotten the woes associated with the electrical and fuel systems of cars like the German-built 412, or the virtually instantaneous rust of the early (again, German-made) Rabbit and Scirocco.

So try this one on for size:

andys120 · March 2009

That's the VW Type 4-based Puma built in Brazil during the 1970s. I saw quite a few when I went to Rio de Janeiro in 1976.

The (Type 4) 412 was an improved version (bigger motor, more HP) of the car we knew as the VW Squareback/Fastback. It was the last of the aircooled VWs.

lemko · March 2009

Kind of looks like a shrunken 1971 Malibu.

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