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However, I wish there were more of it. I still can't quite understand why they bothered to put such a miniscule amount in a vehicle of this class. I mean what's with the razor thin strips around the instrument panel and center cluster? I had hoped it would look more like the ML or LX 470. Could doing so have added much more than a hundred or two to the cost?
Also, I had hoped GM would have sort of dressed up the metal center seat brackets. They really stick out like a sore thumb. Again how much would it have cost to "skirt" those things?
I plan to get this 'factory' woodgrain to install in my 2000 Yukon. Did you get a part number and price for the piece that goes around the main instrument cluster? It looks like it will also fit the standard Yukon.
I was hoping that the Denali had woodgrain on the overhead consoles, but from what I heard it does not. This is a shame.
Clifford
Clifford
Also the instrument cluster is not the same.
On the Denali the Onstar module is placed lower on the panel.
Where you have the 2 blanking cover under the onstar on my 2001.
Luc.
Sounds like we are in the same boat. I ordered the same vehicle (only an LT Sub) about a week after you. Where do you get your info on constraints and limited availabilities. I have been watching wheels.com "assembly line" page, but the limited availabilities listed there do not match what my dealer tells me on Fridays (after he tells me he ws unable to process my order). Is there a site for up to date, details on constraints? What is limited availability anyway?
Rick
Steve K.
Go to www.wheels.com, click on "industry reference" then click on assembly lines. I have been watching this for a few weeks, but the "limited availability" items for the Suburban/Yukon XL do not change very much from week to week. They also do not match what my dealer is telling me regarding constraints. I wonder how accurate and current the information is. The page is updated weekly every Monday.
I ordered the LT with graphite leather interior. Over the past four weeks I have been told by my dealer that one or more constraints on autoride, the LT package and the 8.1L engine have prevented my order from being accepted. Last week he told me there were 8.1L engines available, but the LT package and autoride were constrained. I wonder what will be unavailable tomorrow.
So i guess that "black cherry woodgrain" could actually be a form of "wood".
Does it feel like wood?....no
Does it look like wood?....well maybe
Is it flat out ugly?...probably not
If I didn't already own a denali xl would i want to put that stuff in my suburban?...Definetly not!!
This is just a personal preference..to each his own.
Atmospheres and Rickhess
when you ordered your Yukon XL's did you notice that in the 2001 GMC Yukon brochure on page 7 under "Autoride" that it say's that the autoride is standard with the 8100 engine? You would think that when it say's standard, it would mean it comes with, when you order the 8100 engine, the computer charges you for the autoride. I have called the GMC 800 number and they did not even have the new 2001 brochure. I have also called General Motors headquarters here in Michigan and they can't even give me a answer.
In the Chevy Sub brochure it say's that you have to order autoride with the 8100 engine, but Chevy and GMC's pricing is different. I have a address for someone else at GMC in Pontiac, Michigan to write to. I'll let you know what I find out.
Maybe if were lucky we'll get ours before the 2002's come out.
Jerry
You get the point...
The reason I am announcing this is that it was accepted in Garnet Red!
Yummy...
1. Defects at delivery. I had one defect detected the day of delivery. The front left speaker had significant static.
2. Defects the first month. The infamous "in a drum" noise was detected, and was unbearable when at freeway speeds and only one rear window down. Opening a second window reduced the noise.
3. Hot light. While backing my trailer into it's storage spot on a particularly hot day (~106F), the Check Temperature warning light came on. There was no problem while pulling, just the during the slow process of backing into a very tight spot which takes about 15 minutes.
Repair on 1. and 2. After one month, nothing else developed, so I took the vehicle in. A new speaker was ordered and took two weeks to arrive. Ultimately, it turned out to be a loose ground, so after 6 weeks of static, it was repaired in 4 minutes. Regarding the "in a drum noise". The dealer's responses ranged from "I don't hear anything" to "It's the anti-skid surface on the freeway" to "It's in specs" to "They all seem to do it" to "Drive with your windows up".
Summary of 1., 2. and 3. Chevrolet service has not improved since I bought my '89 Suburban. I plan on buying the $149 service manual and doing it myself, as the dealers seem to want the vehicle for a day to diagnose and a day to repair and who has that much time. However, I'm still stuck if warranty parts are needed. The good news is that the '00 came with few defects, and was a much better and tighter product than my '89. Regarding the heating problem. When I ordered the "trailer towing package", I thought it came with a supplemental fan and extra cooling. From what I can tell, the package only included the hitch, wiring, and the brake pigtale.
4. Mileage. The mileage is pretty good, better than the '89. I've been getting 16 to 17 mpg commuting by freeway 30 miles each way to work. I got 18.5 mpg on one long trip, but most longer trips seem to be around 17.5 mpg. Pulling my 22' trailer, I got 14 mpg, but the trip was too short to really put much faith in that number.
5. Pulling. The 5.3L does not have the low end power of the '89 5.7L even when it had 150,000 miles on it. This lack of low end power did change the trailer towing experience, especially getting going from a dead stop and for backing. However, at freeway speeds, the '00 pulled fine. I did find that allowing it to wind up to higher RPMs did improve the pulling power, but this is not much help from a dead stop, but worked well on grades.
6. Chains. With the P265 70 R16 tires, the manual says to not use tire chains on the rear or front. Upon inspection, I see why. The space between the tire sidewall and vital components like shocks and emergency brake cable is only 1/4 to 1/2 inches. While 4 wheel drive is pretty good, it won't get past chain control in many areas. Any ideas on what to use? Spikes Spiders are nearly $400 and may not come large enough anyway. Anyone ever try the Spiders?
7. Overall, the '00 is a nice vehicle if you can put up with crummy Chevrolet service. I do because the Suburban is a great family and work vehicle...too bad Lexus does't make.
The recalls effect the 2000 GMC Yukon & Yukon XL as well as the 2000 Chevrolet Tahoe & Suburban.
Clifford Martin
I live in Fremont and was frustrated w/ the local area dealers' refusal to budge off of MSRP ("but we're giving you $2,500 off our asking price" what a deal!)
Did some web surfing and searching, and somehow managed to land up @ Guy Schmidt GMC in Glendale. Was given a deal of $1500 over invoice (although now it seems that that has been lowered further - $900 I believe). Ordered and received, last month, a 2001 XL which now has 2000+ miles on it. The process was pretty easy and painless. Everything was conducted over the phone and with a few fax transmissions. What a breeze!! Sales guy was Larry Totter. You can have them deliver it to SJ or fly in to Burbank, and they'll pick you up at the airport.
Just my experience. Sounds like tspathos has a few more dealers there in So Cal that might be giving a better break in price.
Good Luck!
If you're in the SE or mid-Atlantic states, you probably can't find a better price or a better dealer. If you're interested, let me know and I'll give you our salesman's name
Also, since we have 2nd row bucket seats, is there a one-piece Catch-All that would cover the second and third row foot areas as well as the 'walkway' between the 2nd row seats?
him, so I tried someone else.
Quality also looks to be top notch, I was allowed to look over the shop and the product in there waiting to be shipped and I have to say these guys are serious about their work. They have their own dyno, that says a lot in itself.
Just a note, I wasn't paid to say this, I paid to say this. My truck goes in Thursday morning. Pete
http://www.pvmufflers.com/index.htm
The first poll is about what mileage interval people are using between their oil changes.
The second poll is whether or not I should continue with the GM SUV Information Web Site
Please feel free to stop by and vote.
Clifford Martin
Also, one shop I was in on Friday had a new Sub w/ sunroof and overhead TV console. They just used the universal pod and mounted it right behind the sunroof. Looked pretty good.
Thanks for your help.
Rich
Thanks Clifford for the info on the hour meter.
I had cables for my truck tires and they worked great. Light weight, easy to install, no noise and lasted longer than chains. Just a thought....
The whole thing cost about $500, and we get to use the TV's and the VCR in the kids' rooms when the units are not in the 'burb. We had a conversion van with a dedicated TV/VCR unit and never really got our money's worth.
Also does anyone have any first hand mileage numbers for a 2500 8.1 liter with the 4.10 axle? I am curious about freeway mileage (75-80 mph) and in town mileage, and also towing 6-8000 lb. trailer.
Thanks
Dan
Dave
Click on "Industry Reference" and then "Assembly Lines." Scroll to GM Trucks and check it out.
Right now, it appears that there is limited availability on Cargo Doors, the LT Option Package (1SC), Redfire Metallic color, Autoride, and Sunroof.
I believe therefore that the order process may be slow if you have selected any one of those options.
I have also heard that the liftgate option was on constraint, but this web site does not identify it.