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but, they are still doing what really annoyed me about the sport. you get a black interior, like it or not. and light gray or dark gray paint. Ridiculous IMO, but a nice car. probably a lot better ride than a Civic, for not all that much money. Though would take the Civic if they could just include the seats out of the Accord!
at least the Civic comes in a full range of colors. And a gray interior. MSRP 4K lower, rated for better mileage. Really need to try the seats in an EX-T though.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2016 Toyota Corolla LE $19,795 36 $191
2016 Volkswagen Jetta S $19,600 36 $201
2016 Hyundai Elantra $19,075 36 $203
2016 Mazda 3 4-Door $18,895 39 $206
2016 Nissan Sentra SV $19,755 36 $212
2016 Chevrolet Cruz $21,120 39 $218
2016 Volkswagen Passat 1.8T S $23,260 36 $220
2016 Toyota Camry LE $24,130 36 $230
2016 Honda Civic LX $20,275 36 $230
2016 Honda Accord LX $23,840 36 $239
2017 Hyundai Sonata $22,585 36 $239
2016 Nissan Rogue S $25,910 36 $250
2016 Volkswagen Tiguan 2.0T $25,755 36 $253
2016 Mazda6 $22,995 36 $255
2016 Toyota RAV4 $26,875 36 $258
2016 Chevrolet Malibu 1LT $25,020 39 $260
2016 Nissan Altima 2.5 S $24,475 36 $264
2016 Subaru Legacy $22,840 36 $266
2016 Honda CR-V LX $24,745 36 $268
2016 Mazda CX-5 $24,445 36 $270
2017 Chevrolet Equinox $27,345 39 $274
2016 Subaru Crosstrek $22,445 36 $277
2017 Kia Sorrento LX $27,595 36 $288
2016 Santa Fe Sport $25,845 36 $306
2016 Dodge Challenger R/T $34,390 42 $316
2016 Kia Sedona LX $29,395 36 $327
2016 Honda Odyssey LX $30,450 36 $341
2017 Toyota 86 $27,930 36 $346
2016 Nissan Pathfinder S $32,790 36 $349
2016 Nissan Maxima 3.5 S $33,755 36 $355
2016 Nissan Murano S $31,010 36 $355
2016 Nissan Maxima 3.5S $33.655.00 36 $355
2016 Acura TLX P-AWS $32,635 36 $360
216 Acura TLX $32,635 36 $360
2016 BMW 320i $34,145 39 $361
2016 Cadillac ATS Sedan $35,245 36 $368
2016 Hyundai Genesis $27,845 36 $368
2016 Hyundai Genesis 3.8L $39,700 36 $374
2017 Toyota Sienna LE $33,995 36 $374
2016 Chevrolet Traverse $34,900 39 $375
2016 Dodge Grand Caravan $30,290 36 $381
2016 Subaru BRZ $26,190 36 $389
2015 Nissan Quest $27,825 36 $404
Infiniti Q50 AWD 2.0T $34,145.00$40,555.00 39 $413
RRover Disc. Sport SE $38,450 36 $427
2016 Mazda CX-9 $33,320 39 $435
2016 Toyota Highlander XLE $39,940 24 $437
2016 Toyota 4-Runner $36,555 24 $470
2016 Lexus RC 300 AWD $47,637 36 $471
2016 Infiniti Q60 Coupe $42,205 39 $485
2016 Lexus NX 200t $38,163 36 $491
2016 BMW X3 xDrive28i $46,145 36 $508
2016 Infiniti Q60 3.5 AWD $43,995 39 $513
2016 Acura MDX SH-AWD $44,890 36 $531
2016 Cadillac XT5 $44,895 39 $557
2016 Volkswagen Touareg $50,615 36 $568
2016 Mercedes SLC RD $51,375 36 $583
2016 BMW M235i xD Coupe $47,145 36 $606
2016 BMW 550i Sedan $67,295 36 $792
2016 Porsche Panamera $87,145 36 $829
2016 Cadillac CTS-V $83,995 36 $897
2016 Mercedes GL450 $66.200.00 36 $910
2016 Cadillac Escalade $79,645 39 $911
2017 BMW 750i xDrive Sedan $98,395 36 $1,157
2016 Nissan GT-R $103,660 36 $1,196
2016 Mercedes S550 $95,650 36 $1,210
2016 Range Rover HSE $100,500 33 $1,278
2016 Mercedes S550 Roadster $108,975 36 $1,310
2017 Porsche 911 Carerra $104,880 36 $1,367
2016 Mercedes S550 $123,485 36 $1,902
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23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech, 2006 Acura TL w/nav
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2020 C43; 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i; 2018 330i xDrive
There must have been some additional dealer cash involved for them to go that low below cost unless it was one they just couldn't sell and wanted to dump it.
got ambitious, and hit google. Found a review of a 2016 Sport 6MT. Included was this: Theoretical RPM@60 mph is 1,000 RPMs with the CVT and 2,150 with the MT.
so, if I used the calculator correctly, that puts 75 MPH at about 2,687 RPM. Not high at all IMO. Pretty sure also that is lower than it was on my 2005. Yeah, could make it a bit taller and drop that down to under 2,500, but not like my old tC Scion that was geared the same as my Miata and did turn 3K at 60. At least it made sense in the Miata.
I would be shocked if I did not easily beat the EPA in a manual Accord, especially on the highway.
plus, the ATs on most cars, especially the 4 cyl sedans (including my Sonata) are geared too high, and with reluctance to downshift, often lugging a lot. And at least the stick won't have a motorboat drone like a CVT!
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech, 2006 Acura TL w/nav
Went looking for those tray style mats.
Looked at Weathertech, Husky, Michelin and Ford.
Ordered them through FordAccessories. List was $120 for 4. They have a local dealer pricing option and I got them for $98 including sales tax.
Picking them up at the dealer tomorrow.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
the Scion, that shocked me. It basically had a Camry engine, but was geared like a 1969 SS396 drag pack. almost exactly the same RPMs in top gear as the Miata. No surprise, MPG was sucky. Never really liked that car. Was happy to replace it after 1.5 years with the Accord.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2020 C43; 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i; 2018 330i xDrive
2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech, 2006 Acura TL w/nav
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2020 C43; 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i; 2018 330i xDrive
Any news when the 17 5er's are hitting the floors
23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2020 C43; 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i; 2018 330i xDrive
Very surprised that the 17 Optima has not hit showrooms yet. Still no word ?? There are many Kia forum posters waiting to buy the 17 Optima last month in Discussions..
Seen a new Altima silver with dual chrome tips off the back. Look sharp from my view of it. Had Texas plates on it.
The 2017 Altima I drove base model I found it very comfortable. Feels big inside Great vehicle to lease for a bargain. What stands out that I didn't like was road noise inside the cabin . Even the tire squeal between 20 to 30 mph bothered me. Base motor was loud when accelerating. CVT worked well
A $169 / $179 month lease with its very good gas mph makes this vehicle attractive. Camry is a better vehicle but seat comfort is awful.
Still Say............. Accord, Sonata, Malibu, Fusion are at the top with Mazda6 for a sportier handling ride.
Going with a friend to check out the new 2017 Maserati Levante S SUV. Should be a fun day. Hoping they have a 2017 Maserati Quattroporte on lot . A test drive is a must..
23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
Put a family of 4 or 5 with luggage in that vehicle it crawls like........... A pig going in the Slaughter house
23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
You'll appreciate this @brian125. Last week I took my 2 sons into the city for the Rangers game. My 7 year old has "to go" when we are driving down the Westside Highway. I pull off onto one of the emergency spots, he relieves himself, & cars are barreling down the Westside Highway. I say and waited for a solid 2 minutes before I could pull back onto the highway.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
Overall I know you said very good solid car. Wasn't there talks for a Turbo in the 18 legacy. The 3.5R in the Outback would make a nice upgrade engine. The legacy might be the only Midsizer that offers AWD.
Subaru's legacy and Forester's Outward visibility/ seat position is tops in there class .
23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2020 C43; 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i; 2018 330i xDrive
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2020 C43; 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i; 2018 330i xDrive
2017 lease numbers are .00134 and 59% for 36/15 - extra miles are paid up front, though I don't know at what rate (.25/mile?)
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
Gotta say Hyundai and Kia's upscale sedans atleast have 10/100k trans, 5/60k bumper, 7yr Anti-perforation warranty.
Buick on a whole did move up to the 3 or 4 spot in CR best reliability brand .
http://www.edmunds.com/buick/lacrosse/2017/review/
23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
The base model is still probably a nice car but you need to get it well into the $40K range here before you have some of the nice electronic frills. And lease residuals right now are crazy low, making it not an attractive option. I like the front end and interior styling, but the rear end and fastback profile do not thrill me.
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
If your looking for a cheap lease with good gas mpg how could you go wrong with above deals you posted for a Hyundai / Nissan . Below is the website I read often cross checking car info.
@stickguy leased a Sonata . He had made a similar deal.
Most really good lease deals this month on low end Hyundai , Kia, Toyota's etc will run $159 / $199 month excluding Acq fee, doc's , and taxes. Of coarse you will need to do alittle more negotiating on your end to get these prices if not a sign and drive special. .
http://www.realcartips.com/
23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
Leasing incentives are very good also.
The 2016 Expedition comes with 9k in rebate / incentive money .
23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech, 2006 Acura TL w/nav
Do those prices also work for leases, or purchase only?
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
There was one yesterday in that same thread for around $3,900 off MSRP for a purchase. Don't know if they did the deal.
That screamer ad probably doesn't include destination, so deduct that $835 and you won't be too far off from an actual sale reported on the forum.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
And can you get me really good authentic Dominican food?
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
Take what ever model Accord 2017 you want and subtract 2500 to 3k off invoice price. That would be what your looking at to buy/ lease in DC, MD , VA area at the end of DEC
NJ ? NY Accords are selling at 1500 to $2000 below invoice with your states 299 to 399 doc fee.
NY doc's are capped at $75
23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech, 2006 Acura TL w/nav
23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
I was talking to one salesman about a used car for a relative and I said so that's the price plus tax, tag and title? He said yes, except for the doc fee which you probably know about. I said yes but I call it additional dealer profit. He just laughed.
Went further, but took an extra gallon, so 26.6 mpg.
Had to deal with a lot of traffic, several times I didn't bother with the highway on the way home from work.
Just over 300 miles on the tank in a month.
When this lease is up, I may not replace it, and drive the wife's car when it's available (her and my daughter commute together, and they take turns driving)
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
For some reason, I need to have an extra car around.
I think it goes back to the 70's gas crisis when you could only get fuel every other day.
Back then, I had a 75 mile per day round trip commute.
It did help me get through the worst of the very high prices we had in '08.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it.