Just got a quote, 2017 Subaru Forester 2.0XT Premium - Dark Gray Metallic In NYS
MSRP - $30,839
Your Discount - $2,153 Your price - $28,686 plus tax, plates and $97.50 in fees
- your payments would be $304 per month with 10,000 miles per year, for 36 months and with $0 down - or, payments would be $272 per month with 10,000 miles per year, for 36 months and with $1,000 down
Hi, can you kindly provide the lease numbers (MF and residuals) for the following Subaru Foresters in zip code 10952 (Rockland County, NY) for 10K miles/year and 36 months: (1) 2017 Forester 2.5i with leather seats and gray exterior, and (2) 2017 Forester 2.5i Premium with leather seats, gray exterior, All-Weather Package and EyeSight/Blindspot Detection/Rear Cross Traffic Alert. Thank you very much - JD
Can you please provide MF and Residual value on a Subaru Forester 2.5i Premium All-Weather Package and EyeSight/Blindspot Detection/Rear Cross Traffic Alert in NY zip code 11501 on a 15k mile per year lease over 24/36/39? Any help would be appreciated! Perfect credit 800+
Just got a quote, 2017 Subaru Forester 2.0XT Premium - Dark Gray Metallic In NYS
MSRP - $30,839
Your Discount - $2,153 Your price - $28,686 plus tax, plates and $97.50 in fees
- your payments would be $304 per month with 10,000 miles per year, for 36 months and with $0 down - or, payments would be $272 per month with 10,000 miles per year, for 36 months and with $1,000 down
Seem like an ok deal?
36/10 on XT Premium - 66% and .00035
With your prices, I get $249/mo
Ask the dealer what the adjusted cap is - with $0 out of pocket, that number has to be higher.
Hi, can you kindly provide the lease numbers (MF and residuals) for the following Subaru Foresters in zip code 10952 (Rockland County, NY) for 10K miles/year and 36 months: (1) 2017 Forester 2.5i with leather seats and gray exterior, and (2) 2017 Forester 2.5i Premium with leather seats, gray exterior, All-Weather Package and EyeSight/Blindspot Detection/Rear Cross Traffic Alert. Thank you very much - JD
2.5i - 67% and .00105 2.5i Premium - 65% and .00060
Can you please provide MF and Residual value on a Subaru Forester 2.5i Premium All-Weather Package and EyeSight/Blindspot Detection/Rear Cross Traffic Alert in NY zip code 11501 on a 15k mile per year lease over 24/36/39? Any help would be appreciated! Perfect credit 800+
Just got a quote, 2017 Subaru Forester 2.0XT Premium - Dark Gray Metallic In NYS
MSRP - $30,839
Your Discount - $2,153 Your price - $28,686 plus tax, plates and $97.50 in fees
- your payments would be $304 per month with 10,000 miles per year, for 36 months and with $0 down - or, payments would be $272 per month with 10,000 miles per year, for 36 months and with $1,000 down
Seem like an ok deal?
36/10 on XT Premium - 66% and .00035
With your prices, I get $249/mo
Ask the dealer what the adjusted cap is - with $0 out of pocket, that number has to be higher.
Just got a quote, 2017 Subaru Forester 2.0XT Premium - Dark Gray Metallic In NYS
MSRP - $30,839
Your Discount - $2,153 Your price - $28,686 plus tax, plates and $97.50 in fees
- your payments would be $304 per month with 10,000 miles per year, for 36 months and with $0 down - or, payments would be $272 per month with 10,000 miles per year, for 36 months and with $1,000 down
Seem like an ok deal?
36/10 on XT Premium - 66% and .00035
With your prices, I get $249/mo
Ask the dealer what the adjusted cap is - with $0 out of pocket, that number has to be higher.
This is the worksheet they quoted me
The dealer math is correct.
I would recommend rolling the sales tax into the cap cost - the payment will go up about $28/mo, but you won't lose the sales tax paid upfront if the car is stolen or totaled. You are getting almost 7% off sticker, which is pretty strong for a Subaru.
Hi, Can I get the MF and RV for a 2017 Forester 2.5i Touring 36m/15k with a few extra goodies, MSRP $36,820 in San Francisco bay area, zip 94583? I have excellent credit. Thanks!
Hi, Can I get the MF and RV for a 2017 Forester 2.5i Touring 36m/15k with a few extra goodies, MSRP $36,820 in San Francisco bay area, zip 94583? I have excellent credit. Thanks!
Hi guys, I've looked around a bit but can't seem to find an answer for this: How can you use a vehicle's stock # to determine the model/trim/options? I got a quote for a vehicle online and the dealer only listed the stock #20457 for a 2017 Subaru 2.5i Premium. I want to know if this vehicle includes the options I asked for.
Hi guys, I've looked around a bit but can't seem to find an answer for this: How can you use a vehicle's stock # to determine the model/trim/options? I got a quote for a vehicle online and the dealer only listed the stock #20457 for a 2017 Subaru 2.5i Premium. I want to know if this vehicle includes the options I asked for.
Thanks!
That sounds like a dealer's internal stock number. I doubt you can use it for anything.
But, you might check their website, to see if they list new inventory, and if it matches up with what they have. Asking for the MSRP might help, as well.
Hi, I'm looking to lease a 2017 Subaru Forester Premium with Eyesight, All weather and power liftgate. MSRP is about $29,900 here in the Pittsburgh PA area. I would like to factory order it from Subaru, so it has the exact accessories installed that I want. I'm being told by dealers that they cannot guarantee a monthly payment because the residual and interest rate could be different 6-8 weeks from the time it is ordered.
Is this true? How often do residuals and interest rates change? And when they change, how much do they change? Is there a way to estimate a monthly payment on a vehicle that is 6-8 weeks out?
Hi, I'm looking to lease a 2017 Subaru Forester Premium with Eyesight, All weather and power liftgate. MSRP is about $29,900 here in the Pittsburgh PA area. I would like to factory order it from Subaru, so it has the exact accessories installed that I want. I'm being told by dealers that they cannot guarantee a monthly payment because the residual and interest rate could be different 6-8 weeks from the time it is ordered.
Is this true? How often do residuals and interest rates change? And when they change, how much do they change? Is there a way to estimate a monthly payment on a vehicle that is 6-8 weeks out?
Hello! May get the lease numbers (MF and residuals) for a 2017 Forester 2.5i Tourinatiog with Navigation and Eyesight in NYC? 10k / year for 36 Months. Thanks
Hello! May get the lease numbers (MF and residuals) for a 2017 Forester 2.5i Tourinatiog with Navigation and Eyesight in NYC? 10k / year for 36 Months. Thanks
Can you please provide the January numbers (MF and RV) for the following...both 12k/36 and 15k/36 in New York City Zip 11418 and/or Nassau County ZIP 11001 (if there's a big difference between the 2??).
Can you please provide the January numbers (MF and RV) for the following...both 12k/36 and 15k/36 in New York City Zip 11418 and/or Nassau County ZIP 11001 (if there's a big difference between the 2??).
Thanks again. I'm having trouble with my local dealerships. I've been able to negotiate a purchase price that's in the ballpark of Edmund's True Price with a couple dealerships, but when I then say I want to lease the car they give me lease quotes utilizing the MSRP.
For example, I negotiated a 2017 2.5i Prem w/CVT, AWP+Eyesight+BSD/RCTA+Fog down to $27,350 (MSRP $29,015 incl. $875 destination), so with the taxes rolled in on a 12k/36mo lease the payments should be $296 after NYS 8.875% tax, right? But the dealers quote $347/mo, which is based off the MSRP. When I mention that, they give me the run around*. Any insight into how one is supposed to negotiate a price and then get that price as it translates to a lease?
Negotiating tactics aside, does $27,350 or $296/mo sound like a solid deal or am I leaving too much on the table?
*Edit: Just got a reply from a sale manager stating he's having trouble reaching my numbers, and asked if I'm going through Subaru Finance or a credit union. Michaell, you stated that Subaru's numbers are national, so I'm assuming they're through Subaru Finance, yes?
Thanks again. I'm having trouble with my local dealerships. I've been able to negotiate a purchase price that's in the ballpark of Edmund's True Price with a couple dealerships, but when I then say I want to lease the car they give me lease quotes utilizing the MSRP.
For example, I negotiated a 2017 2.5i Prem w/CVT, AWP+Eyesight+BSD/RCTA+Fog down to $27,350 (MSRP $29,015 incl. $875 destination), so with the taxes rolled in on a 12k/36mo lease the payments should be $296 after NYS 8.875% tax, right? But the dealers quote $347/mo, which is based off the MSRP. When I mention that, they give me the run around*. Any insight into how one is supposed to negotiate a price and then get that price as it translates to a lease?
Negotiating tactics aside, does $27,350 or $296/mo sound like a solid deal or am I leaving too much on the table?
*Edit: Just got a reply from a sale manager stating he's having trouble reaching my numbers, and asked if I'm going through Subaru Finance or a credit union. Michaell, you stated that Subaru's numbers are national, so I'm assuming they're through Subaru Finance, yes?
There are often incentives that are applicable to a purchase that don't qualify for leases; perhaps that is the disconnect.
But, you are doing the right thing by negotiating the price. Just be up front with the fact that you are leasing.
Subaru Motor Finance lease numbers are indeed national.
Thanks @Michaell, that's probably what it is bc I can't seem to get this particular sales manager to budge on the lease numbers.
You have to use the MSRP to calculate the residual amount. So, it's always going to be a part of the equation.
Right, but they're quoting the lease's monthly payments based on the MSRP, not the net cap cost after I've negotiated a price. I guess I erred in not telling them I was interested in leasing from the get go, like Michaell suggested.
Thanks to this forum I am shopping for a XT Premium, instead of a 2016 Honda CRV LX AWD. At 66% residual and .00035MF I can afford so much more car (way better AWD and power). Now just hoping/trying to get the Net Cap Cost down to $28k.
I recently heard an ad for the Car Leasing App "Honcker" on the radio. I decided to download it and upon opening it I saw a "Special" for a 2017 Forester Premium with Manual Transmission. For a 36/12k lease they were offering $170 (taxes included!) and a drive off of about $556. They even deliver the car to your house. Of course, I clicked yes only to get a message that the car was not available anymore. In fact there are no Subarus on the app anymore. Thoughts? Do you think this car ever existed or was it a ploy to get my information? They had a couple others at around $202 and $217 which are still great deals. I'm wondering if everything is on the up and up.
I recently heard an ad for the Car Leasing App "Honcker" on the radio. I decided to download it and upon opening it I saw a "Special" for a 2017 Forester Premium with Manual Transmission. For a 36/12k lease they were offering $170 (taxes included!) and a drive off of about $556. They even deliver the car to your house. Of course, I clicked yes only to get a message that the car was not available anymore. In fact there are no Subarus on the app anymore. Thoughts? Do you think this car ever existed or was it a ploy to get my information? They had a couple others at around $202 and $217 which are still great deals. I'm wondering if everything is on the up and up.
Thanks to this forum I am shopping for a XT Premium, instead of a 2016 Honda CRV LX AWD. At 66% residual and .00035MF I can afford so much more car (way better AWD and power). Now just hoping/trying to get the Net Cap Cost down to $28k.
Hi Michael, ky. Happy new year. Is the 2017 2.5i premium 10/36 NOT .00060 and 65 percent? I assume these are national numbers. A dealer I spoke with told me those are not the correct numbers. Needless to say I would not commit to a deal. Thank you!
Hi Michael, ky. Happy new year. Is the 2017 2.5i premium 10/36 NOT .00060 and 65 percent? I assume these are national numbers. A dealer I spoke with told me those are not the correct numbers. Needless to say I would not commit to a deal. Thank you!
.00060 and 65% are the correct 36/12 numbers for the 2.5i Premium with CVT.
If it's a stick shift, the numbers are 64% and .00040
Yes, Subaru numbers are national. Dealer may be wanting to use a 3rd party bank.
Hi Michael, ky. Happy new year. Is the 2017 2.5i premium 10/36 NOT .00060 and 65 percent? I assume these are national numbers. A dealer I spoke with told me those are not the correct numbers. Needless to say I would not commit to a deal. Thank you!
.00060 and 65% are the correct 36/12 numbers for the 2.5i Premium with CVT.
If it's a stick shift, the numbers are 64% and .00040
Yes, Subaru numbers are national. Dealer may be wanting to use a 3rd party bank.
Also, could be marking up the money factor for extra profit.
Got a 17 XT Premium with package 16, MSRP 31020, down to a Net Cap Cost of $28,250. They acknowledged the Residual on 36/10K lease is 66% but insisted the system shows MF of .00085 instead of .00035.
Got a 17 XT Premium with package 16, MSRP 31020, down to a Net Cap Cost of $28,250. They acknowledged the Residual on 36/10K lease is 66% but insisted the system shows MF of .00085 instead of .00035.
Has it changed? Or am I getting screwed? Thanks.
Maximum dealer markup to the money factor is .00050.
haha, no wonder the sales woman told me she can't authorize it as her spreadsheet locks that. Only the "managers" could.
What do you think of the Net Cap Cost of $28,250 for that car? It's white which is somehow hard to find in SoCal area. My other choices were 2016 Honda CR-V's as they are discounted to make room for 2017 but their Residual is lower.
haha, no wonder the sales woman told me she can't authorize it as her spreadsheet locks that. Only the "managers" could.
What do you think of the Net Cap Cost of $28,250 for that car? It's white which is somehow hard to find in SoCal area. My other choices were 2016 Honda CR-V's as they are discounted to make room for 2017 but their Residual is lower.
Thanks.
My only experience with pricing is reading this discussion. Seems like the XTs are getting substantial discounts now. While the CR-V is nice, you can't get the acceleration you'll get out of the turbo Forester.
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In NYS
MSRP - $30,839
Your Discount - $2,153
Your price - $28,686 plus tax, plates and $97.50 in fees
- your payments would be $304 per month with 10,000 miles per year, for 36 months and with $0 down
- or, payments would be $272 per month with 10,000 miles per year, for 36 months and with $1,000 down
Seem like an ok deal?
Can you please provide MF and Residual value on a Subaru Forester 2.5i Premium All-Weather Package and EyeSight/Blindspot Detection/Rear Cross Traffic Alert in NY zip code 11501 on a 15k mile per year lease over 24/36/39? Any help would be appreciated! Perfect credit 800+
61% and .00035
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With your prices, I get $249/mo
Ask the dealer what the adjusted cap is - with $0 out of pocket, that number has to be higher.
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2.5i Premium - 65% and .00060
Assuming CVT on both.
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62% and .00060 for 36/15
62% and .00095 for 39/15
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The fact you can't lock lease rates on an order is definitely challenging.
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2.5i - 58% and .00025
2.0XT - 58% and .00035
39/15
2.5i - 58% and .00065
2.0XT - 58% and .00075
Add 2% for 12K
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Just got a quote, 2017 Subaru Forester 2.0XT Premium - Dark Gray Metallic
In NYS
MSRP - $30,839
Your Discount - $2,153
Your price - $28,686 plus tax, plates and $97.50 in fees
- your payments would be $304 per month with 10,000 miles per year, for 36 months and with $0 down
- or, payments would be $272 per month with 10,000 miles per year, for 36 months and with $1,000 down
Seem like an ok deal?
36/10 on XT Premium - 66% and .00035
With your prices, I get $249/mo
Ask the dealer what the adjusted cap is - with $0 out of pocket, that number has to be higher.
This is the worksheet they quoted me
I would recommend rolling the sales tax into the cap cost - the payment will go up about $28/mo, but you won't lose the sales tax paid upfront if the car is stolen or totaled. You are getting almost 7% off sticker, which is pretty strong for a Subaru.
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Would appreciate the MF and RV for the 2017 2.5i Premium - 36m/10k and 36m/8k. Thanks in advance for your help.
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Can I get the MF and RV for a 2017 Forester 2.5i Touring 36m/15k with a few extra goodies, MSRP $36,820 in San Francisco bay area, zip 94583? I have excellent credit. Thanks!
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Thanks!
But, you might check their website, to see if they list new inventory, and if it matches up with what they have.
Asking for the MSRP might help, as well.
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Is this true? How often do residuals and interest rates change? And when they change, how much do they change? Is there a way to estimate a monthly payment on a vehicle that is 6-8 weeks out?
12k mi/year, 36 mo lease.
Wanted to check these numbers and see if there was anymore wiggle room?
Thanks for your help!
36/12: .00060 MF and 64% residual
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That looks like a big discount, too.
I get $353/mo.+tax, assuming all other costs are paid upfront.
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No incentive info.
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Can you please provide the January numbers (MF and RV) for the following...both 12k/36 and 15k/36 in New York City Zip 11418 and/or Nassau County ZIP 11001 (if there's a big difference between the 2??).
2017 Forester 2.5i Premium w/AWP & leather upgrade
2017 Forester 2.5i Touring
Thanks again!!
Premium 62% and .00060
Touring 58% and .00025
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For example, I negotiated a 2017 2.5i Prem w/CVT, AWP+Eyesight+BSD/RCTA+Fog down to $27,350 (MSRP $29,015 incl. $875 destination), so with the taxes rolled in on a 12k/36mo lease the payments should be $296 after NYS 8.875% tax, right? But the dealers quote $347/mo, which is based off the MSRP. When I mention that, they give me the run around*. Any insight into how one is supposed to negotiate a price and then get that price as it translates to a lease?
Negotiating tactics aside, does $27,350 or $296/mo sound like a solid deal or am I leaving too much on the table?
*Edit: Just got a reply from a sale manager stating he's having trouble reaching my numbers, and asked if I'm going through Subaru Finance or a credit union. Michaell, you stated that Subaru's numbers are national, so I'm assuming they're through Subaru Finance, yes?
But, you are doing the right thing by negotiating the price. Just be up front with the fact that you are leasing.
Subaru Motor Finance lease numbers are indeed national.
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but when I then say I want to lease the car they give me lease quotes utilizing the MSRP.
You have to use the MSRP to calculate the residual amount. So, it's always going to be a part of the equation.
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You have to use the MSRP to calculate the residual amount. So, it's always going to be a part of the equation.
Right, but they're quoting the lease's monthly payments based on the MSRP, not the net cap cost after I've negotiated a price. I guess I erred in not telling them I was interested in leasing from the get go, like Michaell suggested.
Thanks again guys, I'm learning a lot!
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If it's a stick shift, the numbers are 64% and .00040
Yes, Subaru numbers are national. Dealer may be wanting to use a 3rd party bank.
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Has it changed? Or am I getting screwed? Thanks.
I'll let you do the math on that.
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What do you think of the Net Cap Cost of $28,250 for that car? It's white which is somehow hard to find in SoCal area. My other choices were 2016 Honda CR-V's as they are discounted to make room for 2017 but their Residual is lower.
Thanks.
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