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There are always exceptions.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-2021 Sahara 4xe-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/honda/accord/2018/2018-honda-accord-15t-vs-2018-toyota-camry-25-comparison-review/
"....Upon entering each car, we notice the Camry’s doors (on all trims) close with a hollow, tinny whumma not unlike a wobbly metal shed. The Accord’s close with the sturdy, reassuring thud of a luxury car.....Honda’s simulated open-pore wood trim and brushed-metal accents seem borrowed from a higher class of car. The temperature controls use knobs backlit white until you turn them, at which point they turn blue or red, depending on the cold or hot direction of the dial. With the exception of trim pieces just below the door handles, the interior materials look and feel more premium than the Camry’s....
Settling in, the Camry XLE’s seats are leather, but they’re flat and offer little support beyond the adjustable lumbar. The seat-bottom cushion is also shorter than we’d like in terms of thigh support....the Accord seats are more comfortable and offer more lateral support, particularly when cornering....Additionally, every Accord trim level offers rear air vents, which are only available on higher Camry models....
Starting the engines, we find the Camry’s 2.5-liter four-cylinder both louder and coarser than the Accord’s 1.5-liter turbo-four.....If, for some reason, you were to line up the two cars for a drag race, you’d discover that they’re dead equal on performance despite their different personalities.....The Camry has a long brake pedal, which requires a bit too much travel and effort to get the braking power you want, but the car still stops from 60 mph in 122 feet. The Accord has much more bite in its brakes, but its rock-hard tires don’t have as much grip, so it needs 135 feet to stop from the same speed....
Holistically, though, there’s no comparison. The Accord is more comfortable, spacious, and luxurious than the Camry. It’s quieter, rides and handles better, and drives more elegantly. It offers superior technology with a more user-friendly interface. Simply put, Toyota built a better Camry, but Honda built a better car."
You: Honda Accord.
Me: 2018 Subaru Impreza 2.0i 5-speed stick.
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Those exceptions seem to come out of the Chrysler culture a lot. Come to think of it I can't think of anything in modern times where I hear as much bad press about unreliable junk than the FIAT/Chrysler/Alfa team.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
I owned 2 Camry's years ago and they were bullet proof over the years.
23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
For them to call the cloth-seat Accord "more luxurious" than the Camry with leather seems a bit of a stretch. The entire article seems to be written from one point of view, that being to have the Accord come out on top.
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
'17 Chevy Volt Premiere
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
In the past when I've gotten a rental Camry, Fusion, Altima, Sonata, etc., there definitely are weak spots in those cars that the magazines point out. They aren't making this stuff up. Does the Accord have weak spots? Yes. As MT mentioned, the stopping distance was not good, and clearly inferior to the Camry.
'17 Chevy Volt Premiere
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-2021 Sahara 4xe-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Certainly some of the biased employees that wrote positively about the Accord in the 80's have retired or moved onto other employment elsewhere. At least, that's the reason we've been given to trust the Car companies that may have burned us in the past?
They used to love the civic, then when that car got bad, they trashed it. But like the new model. They also fawn all over the Mazda 6, but since it doesn't sell, no one cares or cries bias.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
The closest I got was my wife's first car actually, the '92 Civic DX Hatchback with a 4-speed Auto, but it was already 10 years old with 165K miles, we only had it 2 years (and it did its job well).
If I had convinced my father (and myself) to get a Civic in the 90's, then I wouldn't have had the Neon experience. I wonder which Dodge I might have been tempted by in that alternate reality and timeline? Maybe that Magnum Wagon with a Hemi.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
I also don't think these reviews have much influence over what people actually buy which is one reason Ford stopped catering to their whims a few years ago (and ruffled a bunch of feathers in the process TTAC ).
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZAOyqXNSw4&t=192s
....Kobe Steel customers from Ford Motor Co. to Toyota Motor Corp. to Subaru Corp. are investigating whether they used the suspect materials and whether safety has been compromised.
"If you look at previous instances with "companies initially saying it is a single, one-off, it has always expanded to more and more parts of the business," said Alexander Robert Medd, managing director at Bucephalus Research Partnership. "One usually finds out that it is reasonably systematic."
http://www.autonews.com/article/20171011/OEM10/171019856/kobe-steel-admits-it-may-have-faked-data-on-more-products
Honda apparently also used Kobe steel.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/10/12/business/media/toyota-camry-ads-different-ethnicities.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=second-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0
Different Ads, Different Ethnicities, Same Car - The New York Times
By Sapna Maheshwari
Published: Oct. 12, 2017
Toyota recently unveiled four ads for the same car — its flagship Camry. Each ad speaks to a different audience, offering a fascinating glimpse into how race and culture figure into American advertising today.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-2021 Sahara 4xe-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive