Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

qbrozen · December 2017

Got an email from a somewhat local BMW dealer. First thing I noticed was this ...

Then I went to their website and found they have 2 NEW 2015s sitting there! Not to mention 13 2016s other than the one in that email ad. That's gotta suck.
https://www.morristownbmw.com/searchnew.aspx?euid=91767973-6fe6-e711-afac-f8bc12359671&eaid=42934&st=Year+asc

tifighter · December 2017

qbrozen said:
Thought I'd share some other cars I have saved to my favorites list. Does anybody else keep their saved lists current even if not in a place to buy anything?

Oh yeah. I’ve got 12 cars on my Cargurus saved list. Not that I’m shopping or anything...

au1994 · December 2017

roadburner said:

Thought I'd share some other cars I have saved to my favorites list. Does anybody else keep their saved lists current even if not in a place to buy anything?

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/share/179501296
https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/share/186165824
https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/share/189950053
https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/share/191373127
https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/share/182853070

I'm still a bit tempted by a RWD Giulia Ti. Not all that quick(about as fast as a 330e) but it sounds like fun...

I’m in complete lust with the Giulia. Looks beautiful, plenty quick with the 4cyl and is supposed to handle like the 3 series of yore. Pricing is not ridiculous either unless you opt for the Quadrifoglio.

But, I would definitely give it another year. In some of the early tests there were issues that cropped up. Most were electronic and computer related and some were the dreaded kind that could not be repeated. I think the issues TTAC (?) even baffled Alfa.

kyfdx · December 2017

I'd lease that Alfa..

au1994 · December 2017

kyfdx said:

I'd lease that Alfa..

Most definitely

roadburner · December 2017

qbrozen said:

roadburner said:

qbrozen said:
Thought I'd share some other cars I have saved to my favorites list. Does anybody else keep their saved lists current even if not in a place to buy anything?

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/share/179501296
https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/share/186165824
https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/share/189950053
https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/share/191373127
https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/share/182853070

I'm still a bit tempted by a RWD Giulia Ti. Not all that quick(about as fast as a 330e) but it sounds like fun...
Same. C&D 10 Best article makes it sound like the 2nd coming.

The Brits like it pretty well too.
I'd definitely lease it; if I could get a ti with the Performance Package, H-K, and Nav on a 36 month sign and drive for under $500/month I'd jump.

Michaell · December 2017

OK, folks - today's question: Uber or Lyft?

I have a one day trip to the Bay Area planned for next month. I'm choosing not to rent a car as the time needed to pick up and drop off will cut into my schedule.

I've set up both Uber and Lyft on my work phone. I've gotten feedback that Lyft is more, um, 'socially responsible'.

But, wanted to get first hand feedback from actual users. Is there really a difference?

28firefighter · December 2017

Lyft. Uber is a terrible company - if my company didn't have a business account with them, I would never use it.

Functionally no difference anymore.

qbrozen · December 2017

Ha, I just priced that same configuration. $500 should definitely be feasible. Only about a $40k cap cost after discounts and incentives.

EDIT: ok, maybe not. Used the calculator on Alfa's site and it comes up with $550 at 36mo/15k, not including tax and tags. Yikes. Must have an AWFUL residual.

roadburner · December 2017

qbrozen said:
Ha, I just priced that same configuration. $500 should definitely be feasible. Only about a $40k cap cost after discounts and incentives.

EDIT: ok, maybe not. Used the calculator on Alfa's site and it comes up with $550 at 36mo/15k, not including tax and tags. Yikes. Must have an AWFUL residual.

Well, it IS an Alfa...

fintail · December 2017

I've only used Lyft as my employer has a discount - no issues.

suydam · December 2017

Michaell said:
OK, folks - today's question: Uber or Lyft?

I have a one day trip to the Bay Area planned for next month. I'm choosing not to rent a car as the time needed to pick up and drop off will cut into my schedule.

I've set up both Uber and Lyft on my work phone. I've gotten feedback that Lyft is more, um, 'socially responsible'.

But, wanted to get first hand feedback from actual users. Is there really a difference?

Bay Area — Uber. It’s their headquarters.

carnaught · December 2017

My experience is better with Uber (in L.A.). Lyft (in S. Fla.) ripped me off. I know that the estimated fee can differ from the final, but a two-fold difference is ridiculous.

ab348 · December 2017

The Alfa ~~bought~~ won MT's Car of the Year award too, didn't it?

tbirdmarco · December 2017

@sandman_6472 glad all is running whell for you sorry to hear about the cronick pane tho yes everyone has sumthing to deal with! that is for shore. we just have to keep on doing what we have to do! every day!

tbirdmarco · December 2017

@qbrozen that is quite the list of cars!

tbirdmarco · December 2017

@roadburner go for it! you are an CCBAR after all!

tbirdmarco · December 2017

@qbrozen man o man lots of left overs! does stink for them!

tbirdmarco · December 2017

@au1994 no of an blind man that got one and his brother drives it for him and his frends base one! loves it! red

tbirdmarco · December 2017

@Michaell like using Uber have to still try left have boath on my phone set up!

rny421 · December 2017

So, here's my summary of the 2017 Lincoln MKT that I had as a rental:

The Bad:

Not very easy on the eyes
Driver's seat didn't go back far enough, which is odd because this usually crops up in foreign (Japanese and Korean) vehicles in my experience
The Center console and driver's door armrest were far apart, which didn't allow a natural spot for me to rest my arms
The knob-less volume is a really poor design (my Edge is all touch, except for the volume knob). You have to swipe left and right to increase or decrease volume.

The Good:

The Ecoboost V6 is very quick!!
Ford seems to have fine tuned the transmission, when compared to my Edge
Very comfortable seats
Quiet cabin
Nicely appointed interior
Sync3 is a significant improvement over the MyFordTouch that I have in my Edge

I used to write Lincoln off as nothing but a rebadged Ford, and not worth the time. While, this statement seems to be true in general, they seem to be a bit quieter than their Ford counterparts. Now, I would not buy one new, but if you can pick up a used Lincoln for roughly the same price as the Ford equivalent, it might be worth it.

It is interesting how I had two older colleagues (60+) comment "Wow, nice Lincoln!" The brand still resonates with the Baby Boomer generation it seems, but it is all but lost on most others. Lincoln just hasn't been competitive the past 10-15 years, but it seems like they're starting to turn that around with their newer models. I like the new front fascia on the crossovers. A used 2019 MKC with the 2.3L Ecoboost could be a great used buy a year or two down the road (the Lincoln version of the Escape).

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/2019-lincoln-mkc-updated-with-a-new-face-and-tech-news

qbrozen · December 2017

rny421 said:

So, here's my summary of the 2017 Lincoln MKT that I had as a rental: The Bad:
Not very easy on the eyes
Driver's seat didn't go back far enough, which is odd because this usually crops up in foreign (Japanese and Korean) vehicles in my experience
The Center console and driver's door armrest were far apart, which didn't allow a natural spot for me to rest my arms
The knob-less volume is a really poor design (my Edge is all touch, except for the volume knob). You have to swipe left and right to increase or decrease volume.
The Good:
The Ecoboost V6 is very quick!!
Ford seems to have fine tuned the transmission, when compared to my Edge
Very comfortable seats
Quiet cabin
Nicely appointed interior
Sync3 is a significant improvement over the MyFordTouch that I have in my Edge
I used to write Lincoln off as nothing but a rebadged Ford, and not worth the time. While, this statement seems to be true in general, they seem to be a bit quieter than their Ford counterparts. Now, I would not buy one new, but if you can pick up a used Lincoln for roughly the same price as the Ford equivalent, it might be worth it. It is interesting how I had two older colleagues (60+) comment "Wow, nice Lincoln!" The brand still resonates with the Baby Boomer generation it seems, but it is all but lost on most others. Lincoln just hasn't been competitive the past 10-15 years, but it seems like they're starting to turn that around with their newer models. I like the new front fascia on the crossovers. A used 2019 MKC with the 2.0L Ecoboost could be a great used buy a year or two down the road (the Lincoln version of the Escape). https://www.caranddriver.com/news/2019-lincoln-mkc-updated-with-a-new-face-and-tech-news

You can get the MKC with the 2.3T from the Mustang. I drove both and there is a HUGE difference.

nyccarguy · December 2017

Punch Pending

rny421 · December 2017

@qbrozen - You're right, I meant the 2.3L Ecoboost. Haven't driven one, but I'll put it on my list.

suydam · December 2017

nyccarguy said:
Punch Pending

I had a feeling that was coming.

28firefighter · December 2017

nyccarguy said:

Punch Pending

Come on!

Michaell · December 2017

nyccarguy said:
Punch Pending

Congrats! Pilot Touring, I'll guess

tbirdmarco · December 2017

@rny421 nice rite up on your rental MKT

corvette · December 2017

qbrozen said:

graphicguy said:

Wouldn’t kick it our of my garage for misfiring, but can’t really wrap my head around that color. I don’t know what these things are worth. Is $40K a decent price for an Aston?
Not really. $35k-$36k would be about right.

I like the color. I had a mazda 626 that was kind of similar, but lighter. They called it Meadow Green. It was quite pretty. One of those colors that looked lighter or darker depending on how cloudy/sunny it was. Actually got a strong trade-in value on that one because, according to the UCM, "I've never seen that color. That is REALLY nice!"

That is an interesting color. Those were pretty bland cars, though. My former law partner's wife had at least three of them that I know of. I think one or two were leased. The last two in a row were the exact same color and equipment as each other.

tbirdmarco · December 2017

@nyccarguy that was quick next day pleas do tell all! new pilet!

tbirdmarco · December 2017

@nyccarguy will see my aunts new 2017 EXL Pilet this weekend excited to see it red with tan interior!

tbirdmarco · December 2017

@nyccarguy the red is rair from what have seen on doing looking on cars.com the blew is quite rair to!

tbirdmarco · December 2017

@nyccarguy congrads on the new car punch forgot to post in

corvette · December 2017

stickguy said:
Othe than my $225/month, only money I put in was a set of wiper blades.

I bought the Tahoe in June or July, immediately replaced the wiper blades, and replaced them a second time today. I can't stand it when they start to chatter, even if it's cold out. The first ones were Bosch, the ones I just put on are "Aero" brand, we'll see whether they last longer.

28firefighter said:
Lyft. Uber is a terrible company - if my company didn't have a business account with them, I would never use it.

Uber tried to bribe hackers to cover up a massive data breach and failed to notify its users until the bribery scheme was uncovered. Agree, they're an awful company. So far as we know, Lyft did not do this. I deleted my Uber account and app.

qbrozen · December 2017

corvette said:

Wouldn’t kick it our of my garage for misfiring, but can’t really wrap my head around that color. I don’t know what these things are worth. Is $40K a decent price for an Aston?
Not really. $35k-$36k would be about right. I like the color. I had a mazda 626 that was kind of similar, but lighter. They called it Meadow Green. It was quite pretty. One of those colors that looked lighter or darker depending on how cloudy/sunny it was. Actually got a strong trade-in value on that one because, according to the UCM, "I've never seen that color. That is REALLY nice!"
That is an interesting color. Those were pretty bland cars, though. My former law partner's wife had at least three of them that I know of. I think one or two were leased. The last two in a row were the exact same color and equipment as each other.

Actually, in typical Mazda fashion, they outhandled their competitors. Power output was pretty good at the time with the v6 until Nissan trumped it with the 222hp Maxima. PLUS, you could get a v6 manual sedan in all trim levels.

stickguy · December 2017

Michaell said:

nyccarguy said:
Punch Pending
Congrats! Pilot Touring, I'll guess

I think that is a gimme. Only question is, buy or lease?

fordfool · December 2017

sandman_6472 said:
Bought mine in September 2013 so definitely out of warranty now. Funny, my black screen issue was fixed over the phone about 3 weeks ago but the lady who helped me installed a male ware program on my Mac, said it wouldn't hurt. Now, not so sure but right now, all I've got is a white screen with a circle and diagonal line through it, so it's totally useless. Once the laundry is through, I can call and have as much time as I need to get it working once again. That's why I hate technology, when it's working all is great but once it's down, one must get help or sometimes have to spend a small fortune to replace a unit that's just too old and outdated to use anymore. Just wish computers were like t v's that can last upwards of twenty years or so. And new tech can get expensive especially Apple products which I think are the best out there. Nice that one can sync ones computer, iPad and iPhone and have them work as one. But can also do that with an android phone and tablet with Windows 10, just really depends what one prefers. Done the android bit but am happier with Apple right now though they are a bit pricier!

The Sandman.

Apple began slowing down their older i-Phones so as to increase sales of the new model.
http://money.cnn.com/2017/12/21/technology/apple-slows-down-old-iphones/index.html

The most recent upgrades are in fact downgrades aimed at making current equipment
obsolete or run poorly.

Michaell · December 2017

stickguy said:

Michaell said:

nyccarguy said:
Punch Pending
Congrats! Pilot Touring, I'll guess
I think that is a gimme. Only question is, buy or lease?

Outside of some routine inquiries in the Pilot lease thread, there's been radio silence.

He did trade in the Pilot, so I'm guessing it was a purchase.

suydam · December 2017

https://www.snopes.com/harvard-study-apple-iphones-sales-slows/

iluvmysephia1 · December 2017

fordfool - gee, that really helps me to respect Apple regarding intentionally promoting phone upgrades and "making their older i-Phones run poorly." I'm an Android user, so I don't have a pony in that race. I'm glad I don't, but what little respect I might have had for Apple it's now gone.

tbirdmarco · December 2017

@fordfool did see that on the news now this morning so sad sad sad but not suprized at all! makes me not want to upgrate to an nother I Phone big time or any other apple Prodect and was thinking of getting an mack book computer labtop down the road! have to see now

tbirdmarco · December 2017

@fordfool there is an class action law soot to going on to as whell if anyone wants to joyen in!

tbirdmarco · December 2017

happy Friday all! have an good upcumming weekend and merry cristmess to those who do selabrate!

tbirdmarco · December 2017

@stickguy would say he did bye the new Pilet but we shal see maby later on today! or tomero the latest the wating is to much killing me! lollollol

ab348 · December 2017

corvette said:

That is an interesting color. Those were pretty bland cars, though.

That's a good way to describe them, "generic" would be another. Styling was pretty anonymous, good if you wanted a getaway car following shady activity I suppose. They have all disappeared from the roads here.

ab348 · December 2017

fordfool said:
Apple began slowing down their older i-Phones so as to increase sales of the new model.
http://money.cnn.com/2017/12/21/technology/apple-slows-down-old-iphones/index.html

The most recent upgrades are in fact downgrades aimed at making current equipment
obsolete or run poorly.

I suppose you run Windows 10 on your old 386 PC also? :@

stickguy · December 2017

well, based on what I saw on the news last night, the spin is that it is because of the batteries getting old, and in theory, if you replace the battery (which of course, is also something Apple does not support!) you get all your speed back!

nyccarguy · December 2017

I don't mean to leave you guys hanging, but it is super busy at work today. I'll give details later.

imidazol97 · December 2017

nyccarguy said:
I don't mean to leave you guys hanging, but it is super busy at work today. I'll give details later.

That sounds like a "To Be Continued!" LOL

Michaell · December 2017

nyccarguy said:
I don't mean to leave you guys hanging, but it is super busy at work today. I'll give details later.

How many folks buy plumbing stuff as Christmas gifts?

Apparently, more that I figured.

Anxiously awaiting updates....

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