Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

breld · January 2021

qbrozen said:
This new Santa Fe they are advertising the heck out of looks REALLY nice.

Agreed. Seems like they’re trying to trickle down some elements of the hugely successful Palisade. Smart move.

Michaell · January 2021

breld said:

qbrozen said:
This new Santa Fe they are advertising the heck out of looks REALLY nice.
Agreed. Seems like they’re trying to trickle down some elements of the hugely successful Palisade. Smart move.

There is a Calligraphy trim for the Santa Fe for 2021

xwesx · January 2021

tifighter said:
Was gone cross country skiing over the holidays, so I finally got around to driving the Z4 for the first time in weeks yesterday. Fun, but I swear it is getting lower to the ground every time I drive it. It must be because I am getting taller, younger and better looking on every drive. Right?

Taller and younger, I might believe, but the rest is pure fancy.

mjfloyd1 · January 2021

stickguy said:
true on oddball used cars. not that I am willing to get involved with a V6 turbo 8 year old Audi.

It (V6) is supercharged if that changes your mind

The 2.0T four cylinder is turbocharged

ab348 · January 2021

Michaell said:

breld said:

qbrozen said:
This new Santa Fe they are advertising the heck out of looks REALLY nice.
Agreed. Seems like they’re trying to trickle down some elements of the hugely successful Palisade. Smart move.
There is a Calligraphy trim for the Santa Fe for 2021

Celebrity pastry chef icing on a supermarket cake.

qbrozen · January 2021

Michaell said:

breld said:

qbrozen said:
This new Santa Fe they are advertising the heck out of looks REALLY nice.
Agreed. Seems like they’re trying to trickle down some elements of the hugely successful Palisade. Smart move.
There is a Calligraphy trim for the Santa Fe for 2021

Which is what the wife would want. It is $43k, though. OUCH! That’s like 50% over the entry price.

stickguy · January 2021

mjfloyd1 said:

stickguy said:
true on oddball used cars. not that I am willing to get involved with a V6 turbo 8 year old Audi.
It (V6) is supercharged if that changes your mind

The 2.0T four cylinder is turbocharged

True. But it doesn't change my mind!

au1994 · January 2021

qbrozen said:

Michaell said:

breld said:

qbrozen said:
This new Santa Fe they are advertising the heck out of looks REALLY nice.
Agreed. Seems like they’re trying to trickle down some elements of the hugely successful Palisade. Smart move.
There is a Calligraphy trim for the Santa Fe for 2021
Which is what the wife would want. It is $43k, though. OUCH! That’s like 50% over the entry price.

That’s spendy for a Santa Fe and probably the same trim we would want too. Nice looking though,

stickguy · January 2021

you can run a RAV4 up to $40K. And and RDX tech (with less stuff than that Hyundia) is over $44k.

graphicguy · January 2021

Sandy...so very sorry to hear this. Sincerest condolences.

roadburner · January 2021

I’m checking insurance premiums on a new 2021 Supra 3.0 Premium, a 2019 M2 Comp, and a wild card- a 2020 M340i.

qbrozen · January 2021

stickguy said:
you can run a RAV4 up to $40K. And and RDX tech (with less stuff than that Hyundia) is over $44k.

Sure, but I'm willing to bet the resale values of those will be MUCH stronger. Could be a used Santa Fe Calligraphy will be a bargain. Time will tell.

breld · January 2021

Coincidentally, I picked up my son last night after he was out on a sort-of date - they met for ice cream and ate it in her car. She had a 1st gen Santa Fe...Hyundai has come a long way.

tjc78 · January 2021

breld said:
Coincidentally, I picked up my son last night after he was out on a sort-of date - they met for ice cream and ate it in her car. She had a 1st gen Santa Fe...Hyundai has come a long way.

I’m so glad my kids are still very young (5 and 6). Not ready for any of that!

stickguy · January 2021

qbrozen said:

stickguy said:
you can run a RAV4 up to $40K. And and RDX tech (with less stuff than that Hyundia) is over $44k.
Sure, but I'm willing to bet the resale values of those will be MUCH stronger. Could be a used Santa Fe Calligraphy will be a bargain. Time will tell.

this is to replace the X1, so another lease? If so, who cares! If buying probably won't be used ones in the near future. My experience looking was that there would only be a couple of Turbos in inventory with the vast majority being the base 2.4l engine.

tjc78 · January 2021

I’d better dollars to donuts that a fully loaded Santa Fe leases for the same price (or more) as a modestly equipped X3 (considering BMW loyalty).

stickguy · January 2021

I never seriously looked at leases on these. The wife's car was always intended to be a purchase to keep long term (a plus for the Hyundai thanks to the warranty). I did monitor Rodo for a bit. They were not super cheap, but definitely lower than an X3!

28firefighter · January 2021

tjc78 said:
I’d better dollars to donuts that a fully loaded Santa Fe leases for the same price (or more) as a modestly equipped X3 (considering BMW loyalty).

Can almost guarantee it. Not that it isn't a worthy competitor, I'd just buy it if I wanted it.

tjc78 · January 2021

That’s the problem with not being educated about leases. I know someone paying virtually the same amount for a Camry that I’m paying for the S60.

MSRP will scare people away without knowing the details.

Mid size SUVs as a rule don’t lease well. $500 a month loaded RAV4s happen more than you realize. Would we pay that? No, but people do.

qbrozen · January 2021

stickguy said:

qbrozen said:

stickguy said:
you can run a RAV4 up to $40K. And and RDX tech (with less stuff than that Hyundia) is over $44k.
Sure, but I'm willing to bet the resale values of those will be MUCH stronger. Could be a used Santa Fe Calligraphy will be a bargain. Time will tell.
this is to replace the X1, so another lease? If so, who cares! If buying probably won't be used ones in the near future. My experience looking was that there would only be a couple of Turbos in inventory with the vast majority being the base 2.4l engine.

Could be a lease, but those likely won't lease well, as others suggested. So could be buying used will be the lesser evil. We'll see. 11 mos left in the X2.

stickguy · January 2021

11 months, especially in the current market environment, is a long time and impossible to guess what conditions are at that point.

qbrozen · January 2021

of course.

I really should check her vroom/carvana offers again. Likely not good for us.

qbrozen · January 2021

I checked. If we actually wanted out, we'd be in good shape. Buyout without tax is (I believe) $25,100. Offers are as follow:
$24,455 vroom
$24,125 carvana
$25,016 carsense
$25,100 ALgo

Unless I got a great deal on something she just couldn't pass up, no reason to jump ship for even money.

au1994 · January 2021

breld said:
Looking at the inventory at the place that has that manual S5...they also have this wagon.

It’s no unicorn with the automatic trannie, but still, a 60k mile E91 with the m-sport package is pretty cool.

https://www.boothmotorsllc.com/inventory/2011-bmw-3-series-328i-xdrive-wagon/308753

I like that wagon. For that miles and money, seems like a pretty decent deal.

stickguy · January 2021

not if you need to buy a replacement.

I saw someone today I have not seen in a while. Last time I did was August 2019, and they had a new Telluride (one of the first around I think) that they raved about. I asked about it today (since they did not have it with them) and she said she got rid of it a few months back. Because she had moved to WFH and really did not need a large ($650?) monthly payment. So traded it in on an Optima. Probably did well on that holding it's value.

sda · January 2021

$650 mo/payment?? Not from me. Did she get the new K5 or the previous Optima?

tjc78 · January 2021

I sure hope the $650 was a purchase.

Michaell · January 2021

tjc78 said:
I sure hope the $650 was a purchase.

Probably not. I’ve seen reports of $700+ lease payments on the Telluride

corvette · January 2021

That’s crazy. I think even the Pilot leases better than that, and those don’t lease well.

Michaell · January 2021

corvette said:
That’s crazy. I think even the Pilot leases better than that, and those don’t lease well.

Yeah, our general response is to shop a different model.

qbrozen · January 2021

Honestly can’t remember the payment my buddy wound up with on his Telluride. I want to say mid 5s with driveoffs. Definitely not good for the vehicle class, but good for that vehicle at that time.

stickguy · January 2021

Not sure what it was. I assumed purchase. But, I would believe the lease payment. I think it was a loaded up model, so not cheap, and this was when they first came out and were in very short supply and really popular.

It was a prior gen Optima, not a K5. Pretty red though!

Sandman6472 · January 2021

Audi was fixed today, some kind of oil sensor all the way back. Cost just over $600 at my indie guy and his per hour price is less than Audi charges. Maybe this will also stop the light that shows up every so often when it's down a bit on oil. First real issue in 6 years and 60K miles so, can't complain too much. It's been flawless up to now but, if things start going south going forward, it's days will be numbered from what she said. And next time, doubt she'll go Audi again and thinking it'll either be Hyundai or Kia as she also likes the longer warranty.
New insurance bill came in today but naturally, they left off the senior driving class discount. Once I saw the increase, I knew right away that discount was left out...and right I was! It's supposed to drop the price by 10% which would be just what it should be. I took out last years policy and saw it listed there so just an error. I'll call our insurance guy tomorrow so they can include it and send out a new set of prices/deduction. Since we pay it yearly, I want it right the first time. The once a year thing is so much easier than every 6 months...pay it in one shot, and we're done.

qbrozen · January 2021

Someone please explain this current bid to me.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1998-mercedes-benz-g320-power-top-cabriolet/

sda · January 2021

Sandman6472 said:
Audi was fixed today, some kind of oil sensor all the way back. Cost just over $600 at my indie guy and his per hour price is less than Audi charges. Maybe this will also stop the light that shows up every so often when it's down a bit on oil. First real issue in 6 years and 60K miles so, can't complain too much. It's been flawless up to now but, if things start going south going forward, it's days will be numbered from what she said. And next time, doubt she'll go Audi again and thinking it'll either be Hyundai or Kia as she also likes the longer warranty.
New insurance bill came in today but naturally, they left off the senior driving class discount. Once I saw the increase, I knew right away that discount was left out...and right I was! It's supposed to drop the price by 10% which would be just what it should be. I took out last years policy and saw it listed there so just an error. I'll call our insurance guy tomorrow so they can include it and send out a new set of prices/deduction. Since we pay it yearly, I want it right the first time. The once a year thing is so much easier than every 6 months...pay it in one shot, and we're done.

After you’ve experienced the refinement and driving pleasure VW Audi and germanic vehicles provide overall it will hard to go back to Kia Hyundai, etc. They have improved, but you’re spoiled now.

stickguy · January 2021

sda said:

Sandman6472 said:
Audi was fixed today, some kind of oil sensor all the way back. Cost just over $600 at my indie guy and his per hour price is less than Audi charges. Maybe this will also stop the light that shows up every so often when it's down a bit on oil. First real issue in 6 years and 60K miles so, can't complain too much. It's been flawless up to now but, if things start going south going forward, it's days will be numbered from what she said. And next time, doubt she'll go Audi again and thinking it'll either be Hyundai or Kia as she also likes the longer warranty.
New insurance bill came in today but naturally, they left off the senior driving class discount. Once I saw the increase, I knew right away that discount was left out...and right I was! It's supposed to drop the price by 10% which would be just what it should be. I took out last years policy and saw it listed there so just an error. I'll call our insurance guy tomorrow so they can include it and send out a new set of prices/deduction. Since we pay it yearly, I want it right the first time. The once a year thing is so much easier than every 6 months...pay it in one shot, and we're done.
After you’ve experienced the refinement and driving pleasure VW Audi and germanic vehicles provide overall it will hard to go back to Kia Hyundai, etc. They have improved, but you’re spoiled now.

Sandy might be. I highly doubt his wife would notice the difference though!

fintail · January 2021

Very rare bodystyle. DeMuro owns one, so the monied cult might be into it, too. I think they look just a little off, like a Barbie G-Wagen or something. Still, if someone gave me one. I think this was a 40-50K rig just a couple years ago.

qbrozen said:
Someone please explain this current bid to me.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1998-mercedes-benz-g320-power-top-cabriolet/

stickguy · January 2021

qbrozen said:
Someone please explain this current bid to me.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1998-mercedes-benz-g320-power-top-cabriolet/

Cult following? Kinda cool, and better than the big wagon version, and might be neat to drive but there are a whole lotta things I would rather have at that price point.

Sorta looks like an oversized Geo tracker...

explorerx4 · January 2021

That Merc looks like a Suzuki Samurai to me.
Contacting a dealer for a test drive tomorrow.
Really weird, found a couple of dealers that have rebates 2.5K over other dealers local to me.
I verified it using the Ford friends and family site(wife has a code for it).

stickguy · January 2021

this is lovely. Very cool. Might get pricey.

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/3B0v21kz/2007-volvo-v50-t5-awd

qbrozen · January 2021

Regardless of rarity on that Benz Samurai, it has 150k miles on the run-of-the-mill V6. If it was low miles, I could see some money there, but ... no ... just does not add up to me no matter what. I've seen nicer Euro G-wagons for less on these auction sites.

corvette · January 2021

But it's a rare 2-door! :eyeroll:

corvette · January 2021

So, who's buying this?

stickguy · January 2021

Eliot Alvis' car. Just watched his video on it. Seems like fun, and you even get to be on Youtube if you buy it. Hey, might be worth an extra $50 bid to meet Hoovie and JR.

28firefighter · January 2021

How did Wichita become the center of the YouTube car universe?

stickguy · January 2021

cheap cost of living? Mostly Hoovie though. He seemed to spawn the movement.

oldfarmer50 · January 2021

qbrozen said:
Someone please explain this current bid to me.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1998-mercedes-benz-g320-power-top-cabriolet/

I think someone put the decimal point in the wrong place.

oldfarmer50 · January 2021

corvette said:
So, who's buying this?

Considering what prices some of the C&B cars garner that’s not too bad of a price since that car probably stickered for twice that plus whatever crazy ADM the market would bear.

tjc78 · January 2021

28firefighter said:
How did Wichita become the center of the YouTube car universe?

What else are they doing out there?

kyfdx · January 2021

stickguy said:
this is lovely. Very cool. Might get pricey.

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/3B0v21kz/2007-volvo-v50-t5-awd

And, stickshift!

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