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  • bhill2bhill2 Member Posts: 2,617
    edited June 2021
    Renault Dauphine between the Multipla and the fintail. The car on the other side of the Multipla looks similar to a Dauphine but isn't.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,676
    bhill2 said:

    Renault Dauphine between the Multipla and the fintail. The car on the other side of the Multipla looks similar to a Dauphine but isn't.

    Perhaps the Dauphine's big brother>



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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,489
    There is only one possible choice today:

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 269,386
    Vega wagon
    Early '70s 911
    '71(?) Mark IV

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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,161
    And a '72-ish Valiant.
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,237
    @fintail @andys120

    Yes, my post is a Ford - with Dutch plates, but not a Taunus.
    Instead its a Ford Anglia 105 Torino by OSI who assembled Fords in Italy in 1965/7 and also for a time in Belgium.
    Not quite a Grand Torino, it had the standard 997cc engine at first but I think later they fitted the 1200 engine. It was styled by Michelotti and was never offered here, so we didn't generally see them, although I went to college in East London near Dagenham so for a time a couple were around locally.

    There was also another 105E developed here - the Ford Anglia 105E Friary Touring built by the same coachbuilders as for the Estate Car version of the Vauxhall Cresta PA.


    I think these were in response to the way the Anglia rear window was less practical in some ways - when Ford introduced the Anglia estate they made up more than 10% of all Anglia production as it was more practical although the Friary Touring was a bit rare - I only saw a couple of those and for years thought they were just customised ones with Estate rear doors added somehow - turns out regular Ford dealers would offer them as an option in some areas.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,850
    Isn’t that white barge a T bird?

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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,794
    ab348 said:

    There is only one possible choice today:

    Agreed. Vega or bust! :D

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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,161

    @stickguy said:
    Isn’t that white barge a T bird?

    Only if they put “Continental “ on the trunk

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,665
    White Continental is a 72 or 73, small bumpers. My mom's T-Bird had similar wheelcovers.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,665
    I wonder if the piece on the front fender is an emblem, or the Italian market side market light, which was a mandate of the era, I think - I've seen it on old Italy-spec MBs, too.

    I like the reverse rear window of the 105E, and today that's no doubt a huge reason why people like it.
    magnette said:

    @fintail @andys120

    Yes, my post is a Ford - with Dutch plates, but not a Taunus.
    Instead its a Ford Anglia 105 Torino by OSI who assembled Fords in Italy in 1965/7 and also for a time in Belgium.
    Not quite a Grand Torino, it had the standard 997cc engine at first but I think later they fitted the 1200 engine. It was styled by Michelotti and was never offered here, so we didn't generally see them, although I went to college in East London near Dagenham so for a time a couple were around locally.

    There was also another 105E developed here - the Ford Anglia 105E Friary Touring built by the same coachbuilders as for the Estate Car version of the Vauxhall Cresta PA.


    I think these were in response to the way the Anglia rear window was less practical in some ways - when Ford introduced the Anglia estate they made up more than 10% of all Anglia production as it was more practical although the Friary Touring was a bit rare - I only saw a couple of those and for years thought they were just customised ones with Estate rear doors added somehow - turns out regular Ford dealers would offer them as an option in some areas.

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,850
    I didn’t have enough resolution to read the letters but right number I think to spell Thunderbird!

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  • tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,414
    stickguy said:

    I didn’t have enough resolution to read the letters but right number I think to spell Thunderbird!

    It’s a Lincoln Continental not a Thunderbird.
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,161
    The trunk shape's different, too:

  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,676
    edited June 2021
    This is a postwar car, part of a range made from 1935-1949. I saw one parked at a supermarket Sunday morning and didn't recognize it because I was too far to make out the radiator emblem. It was gorgeous and everything on it worked.!

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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,794
    Looks like a Jaguar... SS?
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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,237
    edited June 2021
    @andys120
    Sorry - I missed your Renault posting - that is a Fregate which was Renaults large car from about 1951 to perhaps 1958.

    Your other post is the Jaguar 1 1/2litre , 2 1/2 litre or 3 1/2 litre - retrospectively & collectively now called the Mark IV although never called that when in production - it was the range the pre-war SS company launched as Jaguars in 1938/9 and which was then renamed for obvious reasons when SS was no longer a suitable marque title. They were replaced by the Mk V in 1948.
    The 3 1'2 litre was fast enough but the smallest 1 1/2 engine was a Standard unit and not particularly fast, but an attractive car none the less.
    The number plate code - SMH - is from 1947/8 and was issued in Middlesex
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,237
    edited June 2021
    @fintail "I like the reverse rear window of the 105E, and today that's no doubt a huge reason why people like it".

    Yes, I like it too but when the Anglia had been around for a few years it became dated in the same way the finned rear wings fell out of fashion
    The Anglia estate did sell well here although hardly any survive while the saloon is a mainstay of most car shows.

    Ford had a lot of trouble when they launched the Consul Classic which was effectively a large Anglia with the same rear window and that didn't look right somehow - it was not as well received and of course it was replaced by the Consul Cortina in 1962.....

    I thin that Torino must have been from the Belgian assembly plant as it was sold in Holland, so perhaps it was a Benelux side indicator light?
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,237
    edited June 2021
    Early 1960s Multi-storey car park - I hope they installed or replaced the fence at some stage...


  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,665
    In center square, a ~1960 PA Cresta, with a Ford Consul Classic to the left (another with the reverse rear windscreen)
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,665
    That glassy finned style fell out of fashion, and soldiered on into the later 60s - Anglias, BMC Farinas, fintails, 404s, Humbers, among others, all of which existed until at least 1967/68.

    I think the Anglia had some "cute" factor even when new, while the Classic kind of has buggy eyes and some weird proportions. The Capri is pretty though, kind of a 2:3 scale 60 Starliner.

    The sidemarker could be an emblem for all I know, I was thinking maybe the "Torino" name could have influenced it.

    magnette said:

    @fintail "I like the reverse rear window of the 105E, and today that's no doubt a huge reason why people like it".

    Yes, I like it too but when the Anglia had been around for a few years it became dated in the same way the finned rear wings fell out of fashion
    The Anglia estate did sell well here although hardly any survive while the saloon is a mainstay of most car shows.

    Ford had a lot of trouble when they launched the Consul Classic which was effectively a large Anglia with the same rear window and that didn't look right somehow - it was not as well received and of course it was replaced by the Consul Cortina in 1962.....

    I thin that Torino must have been from the Belgian assembly plant as it was sold in Holland, so perhaps it was a Benelux side indicator light?

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,665
    That Bird is a 72, although I think a very few 73s were made without the opera window.
    texases said:

    The trunk shape's different, too:

  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,676
    magnette said:

    @andys120
    Sorry - I missed your Renault posting - that is a Fregate which was Renaults large car from about 1951 to perhaps 1958.

    Your other post is the Jaguar 1 1/2litre , 2 1/2 litre or 3 1/2 litre - retrospectively & collectively now called the Mark IV although never called that when in production - it was the range the pre-war SS company launched as Jaguars in 1938/9 and which was then renamed for obvious reasons when SS was no longer a suitable marque title. They were replaced by the Mk V in 1948.
    The 3 1'2 litre was fast enough but the smallest 1 1/2 engine was a Standard unit and not particularly fast, but an attractive car none the less.
    The number plate code - SMH - is from 1947/8 and was issued in Middlesex

    You're correct on both the Fregate and the "Jag MK.IV", Mark 4 being the name retrospectively applied to cars sold before and after WWII as SS Swallows or Jaguars, using different engines but all using the same chassis and bodies. They are just beautiful to behold.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,489
    Interesting pic today from Philadelphia circa 1977. The angle it was shot at lets it serve as a case study for the size of American cars in that era. I never would have guessed, for instance, that a Chrysler fuselage coupe was so much longer than a mid-70s Buick coupe. Or that a Ford LTDII had such a long hood/nose section ahead of the cowl and a relatively small passenger compartment. Fascinating.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,850
    Mustang II and pacer look tiny next to that Chrysler.

    Nice pair of Volvo 140s too.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,665
    Golden age of the American automobile, right? The Pacer really adds something. LTD II looks really bare bones on blackwalls and dog dish caps, reminds me of a period unmarked cop car or rental, perhaps.

    Other imports I see in the mix are a 911/912, Saab 99, I think an Audi Fox (beside the Saab), Corolla wagon, first gen Celica, possibly the rear of a 504, and a few 60s cars still soldiering on.
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,161
    edited June 2021
    Is that 7th car on the right a '75 Ford Elite? With the 'twindow'? Did they ever call it that, or just their "unique twin opera windows"?

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,665
    Yep, that's an Elite, very similar to a similar year Cougar.

    A good friend's parents bought a new Elite, they had it until around 1987 when it was replaced by a Celebrity. By then, the car wasn't looking very elite - it managed to rust in WA. As my friend put it, it was "diarrhea brown with a white vinyl top, white vinyl stripe, and brown burlap interior".
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,794
    What looks like a Pinto wagon being dwarfed by the GM "personal luxury coupe" of some sort next to it. Crazy.
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  • bhill2bhill2 Member Posts: 2,617
    I was also struck by how little difference in length there was between the Pinto and the Volvo on the other side of it.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,489
    Parking lot at The Spectrum arena, Philadelphia PA circa 1973. A couple of oddballs on the left.


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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,850
    VW dasher next to a 411. Probably none of them left now. Looks like an El Camino with a wrong color cap in front of the Vega. And in the distance, a VW camper.

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  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,680
    The Vega looks ragged for only being 1 or 2 years old. I liked the full tail light panel better on the 71 Mercury instead of that insert on the 72 Mercury to the right of the Vega.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,850
    I thought Vegas came like that from the factory?

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,665
    5 VWs in one pic, was there a dealer nearby?

    Guess I'll pick off the "big" vinyl-topped Mustang kind of in front of the foreground Beetle.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,676
    Rust on a Beetle in LA? I parked mine outdoors on L.I., no rust in 2+ years, faded paint yes, but no rust!

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,850
    Triumph TR8. I actually always liked the wedge shape. I looked at a TR7 spyder many years ago. Fun car. Just needed to stock up on head gaskets. Probably a lot more fun with the V8.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,676
    You are correct, the tell is the "3.5 litres" on the side, it's the displacement of the Aluminum Buick V8 adopted by so many Brit carmakers including Rover, MG, Morgan, Land Rover and others.

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    Early 90’s Eagle Talon

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,850
    andys120 said:

    You are correct, the tell is the "3.5 litres" on the side, it's the displacement of the Aluminum Buick V8 adopted by so many Brit carmakers including Rover, MG, Morgan, Land Rover and others.

    I believe the hood is bulged in the center on the V8 too.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,665
    I have a 1981 Consumer Guide where they tested a TR-7 or TR-8. Quality control was comical, and they didn't hold back. I remember the summary: "There may always be an England, but if our test car is any indication, there may not always be a British motor industry". Prescient words.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,676
    fintail said:

    I have a 1981 Consumer Guide where they tested a TR-7 or TR-8. Quality control was comical, and they didn't hold back. I remember the summary: "There may always be an England, but if our test car is any indication, there may not always be a British motor industry". Prescient words.

    Not exactly, more cars than ever are being made inBritain but not so much by British companies. Ford, BMW (Mini), Nissan and others including Jaguar/Land Rover (Indian-owned) are making lots of cars in Britain.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,665
    I think that's what was implied - who performs the engineering, who owns the company. Other foreign makes were producing cars in Britain in 1981 as well, but probably not the same quality as a TR-7/8.
    andys120 said:

    fintail said:

    I have a 1981 Consumer Guide where they tested a TR-7 or TR-8. Quality control was comical, and they didn't hold back. I remember the summary: "There may always be an England, but if our test car is any indication, there may not always be a British motor industry". Prescient words.

    Not exactly, more cars than ever are being made inBritain but not so much by British companies. Ford, BMW (Mini), Nissan and others including Jaguar/Land Rover (Indian-owned) are making lots of cars in Britain.

  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,676
    Expands nicely:

    I think the small white coupe in the middle must be a SAAB Sonnett

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,665
    From local CL - What was this? (there's a red herring, too):

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    Ad copy with some of that friendly northern Idaho flair that makes the place such a gem
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,850
    Looks SAAB to me. And like the Toronado behind it is about to eat it like a whale inhaling krill.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,665
    edited June 2021
    Yep looks like a very early Sonnett.

    Dark blue 66 Galaxie with the guy standing beside it is almost identical to the first car I regularly drove, I recall those wheelcovers. That one looks like an XL.
    andys120 said:

    Expands nicely:

    I think the small white coupe in the middle must be a SAAB Sonnett

  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,676
    fintail said:

    Yep looks like a very early Sonnett.

    Dark blue 66 Galaxie with the guy standing beside it is almost identical to the first car I regularly drove, I recall those wheelcovers. That one looks like an XL.


    The '66 Galaxie is packing some cubes based on the badge. Probably a 390 bit could be a 406 or 427.

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