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kyfdx · August 2022

stickguy said:

tjc78 said:
Anyone notice that the glitch is back when you post in a thread and go back to your bookmarks it tags your post as new?

Yes I did.

It's been reported

qbrozen · August 2022

@28firefighter said:
Show off.

I know i know, and was waiting for that. But just goes to show how these damned things are too much for someone even my size to wrangle solo.

On the plus side, I had a 2-piece sectional, armchair, ottoman, and 4 humans in the van, and it wasn’t even tight.

tjc78 · August 2022

@qbrozen said:

@28firefighter said:
Show off.

I know i know, and was waiting for that. But just goes to show how these damned things are too much for someone even my size to wrangle solo.

On the plus side, I had a 2-piece sectional, armchair, ottoman, and 4 humans in the van, and it wasn’t even tight.

So much for “vacation”.

oldfarmer50 · August 2022

graphicguy said:

snakeweasel said:

oldfarmer50 said:

stickguy said:
Explorer, I agree that changing the address is a royal pain. I never realized how many places had it. Just keep working down the list as needed! I did miss one. we brought something with us that won't fit so I decided to try and sell it on Marketplace. Did the ad, 2 days later, no activity. so I went in to lower the price and realized I neglected to change the location so it listed it as being at the old place. Though in the ad body I said what town. And given that it was heavy and driveway pickup only, that was going to be a problem.

so had to delete it (could not figure out how to edit that) and change the location and repost it. Maybe that will get somebody interested!
I never used Marketplace since I don’t use Facebook and that venue is a scammers paradise. Try Craigslist.
Last week my sister had someone show up at her front door stating that he had rented her house from some guy on Craigslist. Poor guy was out his $500 deposit and had no place to sleep.
WOW….pretty brazen.

Shingles shots….got 2 last year. No issues.

Rented a Rogue

My car is getting the bumper repainted. Cheapest rental I could find.

Impressions?

Not sure what these sell for.

But, it’s
-slow
-buzzy
-bouncy
-handles like it can’t make up its mind where it wants to go
-crashes over bumps
-no connection between steering wheel and the direction you want the car to go
-seats aren’t half bad
-it has blue tooth
-been a long time since I had to put a key in the steering column ignition to start it
-27K on the clock. Pretty tight build. No squeaks or rattles

I hope you got a receipt when you returned it. Up in Canada one of the rental companies tried to charge a woman for driving 22,000 miles on a 3 day rental. She said that in order to do that she would have had to drive non-stop without refueling at 350 mph the whole way.

jmonroe1 · August 2022

@oldfarmer50 said:
I hope you got a receipt when you returned it. Up in Canada one of the rental companies tried to charge a woman for driving 22,000 miles on a 3 day rental. She said that in order to do that she would have had to drive non-stop without refueling at 350 mph the whole way.

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That’s more like 305 MPH (not 350 MPH) but since she was a woman they probably didn’t want to argue with her.

jmonroe

oldfarmer50 · August 2022

Hey here’s a logistics question for you guys.

A guy at work has an Acura that’s coming to the end of his lease. He checked and he has $4,000 in equity thanks to the crazy market. Another guy at work has asked to buy it if he doesn’t want to keep it.

How would you arrange it? I assume that the first guy would buy it at the end of the lease and sell it to the second for the buy out price plus $4k. How would sales tax figure into this for both of them? Any pitfalls I’m not seeing?

driver100 · August 2022

oldfarmer50 said:
Hey here’s a logistics question for you guys.

A guy at work has an Acura that’s coming to the end of his lease. He checked and he has $4,000 in equity thanks to the crazy market. Another guy at work has asked to buy it if he doesn’t want to keep it.

How would you arrange it? I assume that the first guy would buy it at the end of the lease and sell it to the second for the buy out price plus $4k. How would sales tax figure into this for both of them? Any pitfalls I’m not seeing?

A few things to consider, there are probably more;
*What is the real value of the car, most buy outs are a lot less than the sales price on cars.
*Can this guy find a replacement car? Maybe he should buy it out himself.
*If he leases another car from the same dealer they may handle the transaction, and there may not be too much handling....the dealer handles the sale of his trade-in. If he buys a car or leases there may be less sales tax involved.
*He may have to pay for a safety check or pay for any repairs it needs to make it saleable.
Other than that, people buy back cars all the time, and resell them for more than the buyout price. Just make sure all the documentation is done and don't accept a phony check.

oldfarmer50 · August 2022

driver100 said:

oldfarmer50 said:
Hey here’s a logistics question for you guys.

A guy at work has an Acura that’s coming to the end of his lease. He checked and he has $4,000 in equity thanks to the crazy market. Another guy at work has asked to buy it if he doesn’t want to keep it.

How would you arrange it? I assume that the first guy would buy it at the end of the lease and sell it to the second for the buy out price plus $4k. How would sales tax figure into this for both of them? Any pitfalls I’m not seeing?
A few things to consider, there are probably more;
*What is the real value of the car, most buy outs are a lot less than the sales price on cars.
*Can this guy find a replacement car? Maybe he should buy it out himself.
*If he leases another car from the same dealer they may handle the transaction, and there may not be too much handling....the dealer handles the sale of his trade-in. If he buys a car or leases there may be less sales tax involved.
*He may have to pay for a safety check or pay for any repairs it needs to make it saleable.
Other than that, people buy back cars all the time, and resell them for more than the buyout price. Just make sure all the documentation is done and don't accept a phony check.

The real value is the buy out plus $4,000. He got that figure from the dealer so that’s his wholesale price. Could he get more selling it privately? Maybe, but for this example I’m assuming he’ll sell it to the coworker for the same price as the dealer.

I’m also assuming he will lease another Acura from the dealer and use the profit from the buyout to either pay the first few months or as a cap cost reduction. If he sells it directly to the co worker it would be like any other private sale but since it’s a 2019 there can’t be much wrong with it. I wonder how much sales tax could be avoided if the dealer handled the transaction.

I don’t think the co worker would stiff him since they work together.

stickguy · August 2022

he would have to buy it out and pay the sales tax and registration, which will heavily eat into that equity. Then the friend will pay sales tax and registration again.

highly unlikely these days that a dealer would do a courtesy pass-through deal to avoid the first purchase.

probably not worth trying.

kyfdx · August 2022

What @stickguy says

graphicguy · August 2022

oldfarmer50 said:

graphicguy said:

snakeweasel said:

oldfarmer50 said:

stickguy said:
Explorer, I agree that changing the address is a royal pain. I never realized how many places had it. Just keep working down the list as needed! I did miss one. we brought something with us that won't fit so I decided to try and sell it on Marketplace. Did the ad, 2 days later, no activity. so I went in to lower the price and realized I neglected to change the location so it listed it as being at the old place. Though in the ad body I said what town. And given that it was heavy and driveway pickup only, that was going to be a problem.

so had to delete it (could not figure out how to edit that) and change the location and repost it. Maybe that will get somebody interested!
I never used Marketplace since I don’t use Facebook and that venue is a scammers paradise. Try Craigslist.
Last week my sister had someone show up at her front door stating that he had rented her house from some guy on Craigslist. Poor guy was out his $500 deposit and had no place to sleep.
WOW….pretty brazen.

Shingles shots….got 2 last year. No issues.

Rented a Rogue

My car is getting the bumper repainted. Cheapest rental I could find.

Impressions?

Not sure what these sell for.

But, it’s
-slow
-buzzy
-bouncy
-handles like it can’t make up its mind where it wants to go
-crashes over bumps
-no connection between steering wheel and the direction you want the car to go
-seats aren’t half bad
-it has blue tooth
-been a long time since I had to put a key in the steering column ignition to start it
-27K on the clock. Pretty tight build. No squeaks or rattles
I hope you got a receipt when you returned it. Up in Canada one of the rental companies tried to charge a woman for driving 22,000 miles on a 3 day rental. She said that in order to do that she would have had to drive non-stop without refueling at 350 mph the whole way.

Thanks OF. I do indeed have a receipt.

Just another observation, I know NIssan transmissions are notorious for being unreliable. But, knowing this one is a CVT, it amazes me how it has a hard 1-2 shift. This is software controlled, right? Someone needs to find a new software team.

Doors sound like they’re made of aluminum foil when you close them.

graphicguy · August 2022

Rental car companies…..doing this rental through Enterprise. When I was working full time, out contract called for us to rent through Hertz.

The times I’ve rented through Enterprise, it’s clear they’re recruiting recent college grads who are trying to claw their way up the corporate ladder and more focused on customer service. Hertz? Not sure where they recruited from, but their folks were surly, at best, and pushed extra insurance…HARD….vs Enterprise.

tjc78 · August 2022

Had some family over last night and we all watched Maverick in our theater room (day of digital release) We all universally loved it. Not sure if was nostalgia because we all love Top Gun or if it was just a great movie.

The camera work and video quality were fantastic. I thought the audio could have been better, but I’ll probably wait to see how it is on BluRay. Comcast’s streaming isn’t always the best with the soundtrack. Having said that, for the home theater buffs here this is a much watch at reference volumes.

After that we headed back down the shore in the new truck. Kids approved and slept the whole way.

tjc78 · August 2022

@graphicguy said:
Rental car companies…..doing this rental through Enterprise. When I was working full time, out contract called for us to rent through Hertz.

The times I’ve rented through Enterprise, it’s clear they’re recruiting recent college grads who are trying to claw their way up the corporate ladder and more focused on customer service. Hertz? Not sure where they recruited from, but their folks were surly, at best, and pushed extra insurance…HARD….vs Enterprise.

When I used to travel heavily I was always a National customer. Never once had any issues, and Emerald aisle was convenient.

kyfdx · August 2022

Also, the Rogue Sport isn't the old Rogue. It's a smaller, cheaper model.

qbrozen · August 2022

@kyfdx said:
Also, the Rogue Sport isn't the old Rogue. It's a smaller, cheaper model.

And just think what cutting costs from the old Rogue would amount to. Oh my!

ab348 · August 2022

kyfdx said:
Also, the Rogue Sport isn't the old Rogue. It's a smaller, cheaper model.

Don't recall anyone suggesting it was the former Rogue.

henryn · August 2022

https://www.thecarconnection.com/news/1136933_new-car-buyers-paying-record-prices-taking-on-record-loan-payments?utm_source=TCC+-+Daily+Headlines&utm_campaign=4e4b1ffed3-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2022_08_24_04_05&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_d55bbd391e-4e4b1ffed3-54482629

New car buyers paying record prices, taking on record loan payments

The average new car price is set to reach $46,259 by the end of August, eclipsing last month's record and the one before that, according to the latest sales forecast from J.D. Power.

The estimated sales volume for the year for both retail and fleet customers is projected to be 13.3 million vehicles, down from the 17 million pre-pandemic highs.

Dealers continue to benefit with an average profit of $4,976 on each car sold. That's down from $5,123 in June but still up $639 from last year and way higher than the pre-pandemic expectation that hovered around the $2,000 range.

henryn · August 2022

Just in:

California to Ban the Sale of New Gasoline Cars

The decision, to take effect by 2035, will very likely speed a wider transition to electric vehicles because many other states follow California’s standards.

explorerx4 · August 2022

Saw a story in the local news about electric rates being high.
Already paid a bill for July and actually for April-June, too. Builder didn't pay it.
My electric rate is 6.67 cents per KWH.
In CT, we were paying just over 12 per KWH with many line item adjustments.
Final bill was $140 for electric usage but total due was $303!
Not sure how Natural Gas is going to compare.
Just paid that bill too and avoided shutoff. Obviously builder didn't pay that one either.
Waiting for a copy of the last statement to see the details.

tjc78 · August 2022

Saw a headline that natural gas will be through the roof too. Last year it was already up over 100% from the year prior

oldfarmer50 · August 2022

graphicguy said:

oldfarmer50 said:

graphicguy said:

snakeweasel said:

oldfarmer50 said:

stickguy said:
Explorer, I agree that changing the address is a royal pain. I never realized how many places had it. Just keep working down the list as needed! I did miss one. we brought something with us that won't fit so I decided to try and sell it on Marketplace. Did the ad, 2 days later, no activity. so I went in to lower the price and realized I neglected to change the location so it listed it as being at the old place. Though in the ad body I said what town. And given that it was heavy and driveway pickup only, that was going to be a problem.

so had to delete it (could not figure out how to edit that) and change the location and repost it. Maybe that will get somebody interested!
I never used Marketplace since I don’t use Facebook and that venue is a scammers paradise. Try Craigslist.
Last week my sister had someone show up at her front door stating that he had rented her house from some guy on Craigslist. Poor guy was out his $500 deposit and had no place to sleep.
WOW….pretty brazen.

Shingles shots….got 2 last year. No issues.

Rented a Rogue

My car is getting the bumper repainted. Cheapest rental I could find.

Impressions?

Not sure what these sell for.

But, it’s
-slow
-buzzy
-bouncy
-handles like it can’t make up its mind where it wants to go
-crashes over bumps
-no connection between steering wheel and the direction you want the car to go
-seats aren’t half bad
-it has blue tooth
-been a long time since I had to put a key in the steering column ignition to start it
-27K on the clock. Pretty tight build. No squeaks or rattles
I hope you got a receipt when you returned it. Up in Canada one of the rental companies tried to charge a woman for driving 22,000 miles on a 3 day rental. She said that in order to do that she would have had to drive non-stop without refueling at 350 mph the whole way.
Thanks OF. I do indeed have a receipt.

Just another observation, I know NIssan transmissions are notorious for being unreliable. But, knowing this one is a CVT, it amazes me how it has a hard 1-2 shift. This is software controlled, right? Someone needs to find a new software team.

Doors sound like they’re made of aluminum foil when you close them.

I’ve never driven a Nissan that had a hard shift (even a fake one through softeware). I’ve had them grind, whirr and slip, I’ve even had them just fail but no hard shifts. Tin foil doors are common on all those low end cars.

oldfarmer50 · August 2022

graphicguy said:
Rental car companies…..doing this rental through Enterprise. When I was working full time, out contract called for us to rent through Hertz.

The times I’ve rented through Enterprise, it’s clear they’re recruiting recent college grads who are trying to claw their way up the corporate ladder and more focused on customer service. Hertz? Not sure where they recruited from, but their folks were surly, at best, and pushed extra insurance…HARD….vs Enterprise.

From what I understand, the up and comers like Enterprise for their management training. They spend a few years building up their resume’ before moving on. They get promotions and bonuses based on good customer survey reports. That motivates them to be nice to the customers. I think I posted here the story of the elderly ladies abandoned in the airport parking garage by Hertz who were provided a car by our service agents who drove it 15 miles from another city.

oldfarmer50 · August 2022

graphicguy said:
Rental car companies…..doing this rental through Enterprise. When I was working full time, out contract called for us to rent through Hertz.

The times I’ve rented through Enterprise, it’s clear they’re recruiting recent college grads who are trying to claw their way up the corporate ladder and more focused on customer service. Hertz? Not sure where they recruited from, but their folks were surly, at best, and pushed extra insurance…HARD….vs Enterprise.

Enterprise has owned National since 2007. Alamo too.

oldfarmer50 · August 2022

henryn said:
Just in:

California to Ban the Sale of New Gasoline Cars

The decision, to take effect by 2035, will very likely speed a wider transition to electric vehicles because many other states follow California’s standards.

And you wonder why there are no u-hauls to rent outbound from CA.

roadburner · August 2022

@tjc78 said:
Had some family over last night and we all watched Maverick in our theater room (day of digital release) We all universally loved it. Not sure if was nostalgia because we all love Top Gun or if it was just a great movie.

The camera work and video quality were fantastic. I thought the audio could have been better, but I’ll probably wait to see how it is on BluRay. Comcast’s streaming isn’t always the best with the soundtrack. Having said that, for the home theater buffs here this is a much watch at reference volumes.

After that we headed back down the shore in the new truck. Kids approved and slept the whole way.

The soundtrack was pretty impressive in the XD and Dolby theaters where I saw Maverick. I reserved the Maverick 4K UHD Blu-Ray steelbook a couple of days after I saw it; I should get it in early November.
FWIW, the Ford vs. Ferrari 4K UHD Blu-Ray has an outstanding Dolby TrueHD 7.1 soundtrack. The scene where Shelby buzzes the tower at the launch of the 1965 Mustang is a good clip to use to showcase your HTS.

tjc78 · August 2022

I’m sure it has to do with Comcast’s signal more than anything. Blu-Ray always sounds better than streamed content from Comcast.

Of course I’m critical and everyone said it sounded awesome.

driver100 · August 2022

stickguy said:
he would have to buy it out and pay the sales tax and registration, which will heavily eat into that equity. Then the friend will pay sales tax and registration again.

highly unlikely these days that a dealer would do a courtesy pass-through deal to avoid the first purchase.

probably not worth trying.

Good points. Some dealers would do a courtesy deal for a relative. Sell the trade at cost, the seller could keep the profit ($4000). These days used cars are like gold, no advantage in doing it.

In Ontario when you trade in your car and buy a new one you only pay the sales tax on the difference in price. What happens when you trade-in a car.....on a lease?

snakeweasel · August 2022

jmonroe1 said:

@oldfarmer50 said:

I hope you got a receipt when you returned it. Up in Canada one of the rental companies tried to charge a woman for driving 22,000 miles on a 3 day rental. She said that in order to do that she would have had to drive non-stop without refueling at 350 mph the whole way.

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That’s more like 305 MPH (not 350 MPH) but since she was a woman they probably didn’t want to argue with her.

jmonroe

Actually it was more than 22K miles and less than three days. I did the math and it worked out to just over 333 MPH.

snakeweasel · August 2022

henryn said:
Just in:

California to Ban the Sale of New Gasoline Cars

The decision, to take effect by 2035, will very likely speed a wider transition to electric vehicles because many other states follow California’s standards.

OK so California which is having difficulty with its power grid is going to get all that stuff fixed then beefed up to power all those electric vehicles in 13 years?

dino001 · August 2022

snakeweasel said:

jmonroe1 said:

@oldfarmer50 said:

I hope you got a receipt when you returned it. Up in Canada one of the rental companies tried to charge a woman for driving 22,000 miles on a 3 day rental. She said that in order to do that she would have had to drive non-stop without refueling at 350 mph the whole way.

————————————————

That’s more like 305 MPH (not 350 MPH) but since she was a woman they probably didn’t want to argue with her.
jmonroe

Actually it was more than 22K miles and less than three days. I did the math and it worked out to just over 333 MPH.

Computer says she did it, computers never make mistakes.

jmonroe1 · August 2022

@snakeweasel said:
Actually it was more than 22K miles and less than three days. I did the math and it worked out to just over 333 MPH.

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I used the info that was provided. Namely 22K miles and 3 days and I used exactly 22K miles and 3 full 24 hour days. That yields for all practical purposes 305 MPH.

I don’t know what data you used but if you were privy to something else give me those numbers and I’d probably come to the same MPH that you calculated.

It really ain’t that difficult of a problem.

jmonroe

oldfarmer50 · August 2022

jmonroe1 said:

@snakeweasel said:

Actually it was more than 22K miles and less than three days. I did the math and it worked out to just over 333 MPH.

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I used the info that was provided. Namely 22K miles and 3 days and I used exactly 22K miles and 3 full 24 hour days. That yields for all practical purposes 305 MPH.

I don’t know what data you used but if you were privy to something else give me those numbers and I’d probably come to the same MPH that you calculated.

It really ain’t that difficult of a problem.

jmonroe

I approximated the speed because I couldn’t remember the exact figure. If you got a problem with that, talk to the lawyer:

https://youtu.be/nOVAi0pBFAg

Now, shall we argue about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?🤪

driver100 · August 2022

I think we get the general idea............maybe we should move on and get back to discussing dishwashers.

jmonroe1 · August 2022

@oldfarmer50 said:
I approximated the speed because I couldn’t remember the exact figure. If you got a problem with that, talk to the lawyer:

https://youtu.be/nOVAi0pBFAg

Now, shall we argue about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?🤪

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Thanks, with the info that I was given I’m right. I can’t prevent someone from passing on bum dope.

As for dancing on the head of a pin, give the size of the pin head and and the dancers shoe size and I’ll figure that out for you.

jmonroe

graphicguy · August 2022

oldfarmer50 said:

graphicguy said:
Rental car companies…..doing this rental through Enterprise. When I was working full time, out contract called for us to rent through Hertz.

The times I’ve rented through Enterprise, it’s clear they’re recruiting recent college grads who are trying to claw their way up the corporate ladder and more focused on customer service. Hertz? Not sure where they recruited from, but their folks were surly, at best, and pushed extra insurance…HARD….vs Enterprise.
From what I understand, the up and comers like Enterprise for their management training. They spend a few years building up their resume’ before moving on. They get promotions and bonuses based on good customer survey reports. That motivates them to be nice to the customers. I think I posted here the story of the elderly ladies abandoned in the airport parking garage by Hertz who were provided a car by our service agents who drove it 15 miles from another city.

Customer service focus shows. Their entire office was manned with nothing but 20 something’s, all hustling, some of them taking the cars through their car wash, answering questions, making sure I was in and out.

Hertz? “We’ll get to you when we get to you”. I was in Hertz’s Presidents Circle, which was supposed to be their top tier. Wasn’t expecting anything from them. They never disappointed.

Aside from an upgrade every once in a while, they were the exact opposite of Enterprise.

abacomike · August 2022

Got my 1st Shingles shot this morning along with my annual flu shot at my pharmacy. No side effects so far from the shingles shot.

I’ve suffered with shingles about 5 years ago and I finally decided I did not want to go through that again!🤓

abacomike · August 2022

Drove the new Genesis G90 yesterday. What a car!!! But the MSRP was over $90,000 and that’s for the base model. That’s an increase in MSRP of $15,000 over my 2021 and since they are not discounting them and getting $2,000 over MSRP for them, that’s $22,000 more than I paid 15 months ago for my G90.

They have priced the new G90 close to the BMW 740i and $17,000 below the MB S500.

But I think the new G90 is way better than the competition - car is more responsive with the standard AWD. The new Audio System is the same as the optional Audio Systems in the completion vehicles. The interior is exquisite and the quietness of the ride on the highway is almost eerie. Seats are superbly comfortable and the car handles like a sports sedan. Horsepower is now 375 (up 10 from previous model). Styling is awesome.

But it’s way above what I would spend for a car and my 2021 has only 8500 miles on it. But it is a fantastic vehicle!

snakeweasel · August 2022

jmonroe1 said:

@snakeweasel said:

Actually it was more than 22K miles and less than three days. I did the math and it worked out to just over 333 MPH.

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I used the info that was provided. Namely 22K miles and 3 days and I used exactly 22K miles and 3 full 24 hour days. That yields for all practical purposes 305 MPH.

I don’t know what data you used but if you were privy to something else give me those numbers and I’d probably come to the same MPH that you calculated.

It really ain’t that difficult of a problem.

jmonroe

According to what I heard it stated that she drove 36,482 kilometers in 68 hours. Which is an average speed of 536.5 KPH or 333.3656 MPH (or 22,668.86 miles in 68 hours). This is about three times the top speed of a Yukon Denali, the vehicle she rented.

snakeweasel · August 2022

oldfarmer50 said:

jmonroe1 said:

@snakeweasel said:

Actually it was more than 22K miles and less than three days. I did the math and it worked out to just over 333 MPH.

————————————————

I used the info that was provided. Namely 22K miles and 3 days and I used exactly 22K miles and 3 full 24 hour days. That yields for all practical purposes 305 MPH.

I don’t know what data you used but if you were privy to something else give me those numbers and I’d probably come to the same MPH that you calculated.

It really ain’t that difficult of a problem.

jmonroe

I approximated the speed because I couldn’t remember the exact figure. If you got a problem with that, talk to the lawyer:

https://youtu.be/nOVAi0pBFAg

Now, shall we argue about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?🤪

42

jmonroe1 · August 2022

@snakeweasel said:
42

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I think 1 or 2 of those has larger feet than I would have guesstimated.

jmonroe

dino001 · August 2022

oldfarmer50 said:

Now, shall we argue about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?🤪

I always thought it was devils.

explorerx4 · August 2022

Just quoted auto/homeowners with a local agent.
Auto is less than half of what we were paying in CT.
Homeowners is about 2/3rd's is my guess.

driver100 · August 2022

abacomike said:
Drove the new Genesis G90 yesterday. What a car!!! But the MSRP was over $90,000 and that’s for the base model. That’s an increase in MSRP of $15,000 over my 2021 and since they are not discounting them and getting $2,000 over MSRP for them, that’s $22,000 more than I paid 15 months ago for my G90.

They have priced the new G90 close to the BMW 740i and $17,000 below the MB S500.

But it’s way above what I would spend for a car and my 2021 has only 8500 miles on it. But it is a fantastic vehicle!

They did a nice job, distinctive and it looks like a luxury car;

Interior looks nice too;

....but, I don't think you need a new one Mike!

jmonroe1 · August 2022

@explorerx4 said:
Just quoted auto/homeowners with a local agent.
Auto is less than half of what we were paying in CT.
Homeowners is about 2/3rd's is my guess.

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Good to hear you’ll be saving more than just a few bucks with your auto insurance but I think they have an Ohio clause that states they only pay for about half of at fault accidents. Check with our Ohio poster buddies to get the full details about how it works.

FWIW, a couple months ago I got a call from the new insurance agency that will now be handling my insurance. Same company but different agent because that guy retired and sold his biz. Anyway, the lady that told me I could save 300 bucks a year and have slightly better coverage since if been with that company for many years. So she wanted to know if I wanted her to make the changes. So to have some fun I told her, “no, I want to pay the higher rate with less coverage”. There’s a long pause and in a very surprised tone she says, “ARE YOU SERIOUS”? To which I said, “why would you even ask”? Her response was, “it’s just a matter of company policy since your coverage will be changing”. So I’m now saving money on insurance but I can’t afford to feed our 2 gas hogs unless I dip into that insurance savings. There otta be a law that you’re allowed to come out ahead sometimes.

jmonroe

andres3 · August 2022

henryn said:
Just in:

California to Ban the Sale of New Gasoline Cars

The decision, to take effect by 2035, will very likely speed a wider transition to electric vehicles because many other states follow California’s standards.

Seems like it would be pretty easy to play a shell game whereby the vehicle is "used" with 20 miles on it.

snakeweasel · August 2022

andres3 said:

henryn said:
Just in:

California to Ban the Sale of New Gasoline Cars

The decision, to take effect by 2035, will very likely speed a wider transition to electric vehicles because many other states follow California’s standards.
Seems like it would be pretty easy to play a shell game whereby the vehicle is "used" with 20 miles on it.

Well to be used it has to be sold and titled. Since they won't allow gas powered cars to be sold you wouldn't be able to play that shell game.

Might I suggest a forum posters convention in California every year starting in 2035 where we come in our thirstiest gassers. Invite friends.

oldfarmer50 · August 2022

I had an unusual treat today.

I’ve been looking for an old generation (2011 and prior) Ford Ranger without success. Everything out there is to old, to beat, too rusty or too expensive. Consequently, I’ve never even driven one.

Today I got my chance. We were tasked to pick up a Ranger from a local muffler shop that had been using it as a shop vehicle. Ultra long term lease I guess. I assumed it would be a newer one 2019+ but it turned out to be a 2010 XL 2.3L auto with only 57k miles. Stripper model, crank windows and manual adjust mirrors. No electronics other than am/fm radio.

This thing had led a rough life. The bed was dented everywhere. Seats were ripped and the gear shift indicator didn’t work. Despite the defects it ran and shifted well. The ride was noticeably truck-like but I could tolerate it.

This would have made a great new hooptie if I hadn’t noticed rust bubbling from the rockers. Still I wonder what deal I could work out with the company.

oldfarmer50 · August 2022

snakeweasel said:

andres3 said:

henryn said:
Just in:

California to Ban the Sale of New Gasoline Cars

The decision, to take effect by 2035, will very likely speed a wider transition to electric vehicles because many other states follow California’s standards.
Seems like it would be pretty easy to play a shell game whereby the vehicle is "used" with 20 miles on it.
Well to be used it has to be sold and titled. Since they won't allow gas powered cars to be sold you wouldn't be able to play that shell game.

Might I suggest a forum posters convention in California every year starting in 2035 where we come in our thirstiest gassers. Invite friends.

I wonder if the law would prevent you from buying in another state and then transferring title to CA since technically it would be used at that point. I mean, what would they do if someone moved to CA from say Texas? Would they make the person leave their car at the border?

I can’t believe that this CA law would survive a restraint of trade suit.

explorerx4 · August 2022

@oldfarmer50,
I would guess if you had an out of state address, you could register in CA.
Buying out of state but having a CA address wouldn't work.

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