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Of course the old design cars broke down. The point is that my Toyotas didn't...and I put over 100,000 miles on each of them. Were the Honda's at the time just as reliable? I don't know as my '05 is the first. Do the new Toyotas turn off if the battery is bad? I don't know. Incidentally, I never needed an engine overhaul either. They never leaked or burned oil.
Honda is paying the towing fee and providing a coupon for one free service. I'm grateful, but frankly, that the least they should do.
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I suppose I was really aware of this all along. Being a network computer specialist, I understand that the range of DC voltages for computers and electronic components is very narrow.
I still believe that this trend is dangerous and can put the driver and passengers at risk.
You are making a big deal out a small,yes, small thing compared to what life can dish out.
Have you considered the possibility some punk with a pellet gun could have caused this to happen?
Relax and move on with life...
Talk about a fun night...I won't describe the fun I had.
Anyway, it got fixed and I drove that Celica another 100,000 troublefree miles.
" Stuff" does happen!
Thanks.
It is not the smell in my garage. I smell it wherever I start my cars. I took out the spark plugs, they are OK ( I changed the spark plugs ( Platinum) 25000 miles ago).
Thanks.
I have Accord 2005 four cylinder for over a year now with 9000 miles on it.
But it still gives average of 18-20MPG without AC on.
Could someone tell me what are my options now?
IF i go to dealer what should I be getting checked under warranty?
Thank You.
Edited on suggestion:
My family have other Accords but this one gives low mileage.
I used to drive Civic 97 that gave around 30-33MPG with AC on.
It is driven mixed in DFW area. Morning and evening trips each 10 miles or 15 minuts. And do warm up the car for 30 seconds.
To approximate avg., I also drove on pure highway trips of 300+ miles but max I got was 24MPG.
The last V4 automotive engine produced that I can think of was in the old Saab 95.
Check here for details: http://automobiles.honda.com/models/specifications_full_specs.asp?ModelName=Accord+Sedan
Well, your comment on pure highway trips and getting only 24 mpg is troubling. You should be getting easily over 30 mpg.
Things I would think of would be possible vacuum leak (causing the ECU to increase the fuel), bad coolant sensor (telling the computer that the engine is still cold), possibly a stuck thermostat (same as previous reason). But I'd say that all are rare in a car that's so new with so low of mileage.
Is this an automatic transmission? Do you feel it upshifting as you increase road speed? Is it going up through all the gears?
I dunno...I'm at a loss. Have you had it in for this problem? Have they checked for problem codes on the car?
stuck injector
bad/mis-calibrated MAF Sensor (Mass AirFlow) causing car to run unnecessary rich fuel/air mixture, maybe this is called a MAP sensor?
bad/mis-calibrated O2 Sensor(s)
catalytic convertor that is clogged or defective
idle-learn procedure not done before vehicle delivery
there must be other possibilities (can you tell if the transmission is locking up the torque convertor?)
perhaps another shop may be willing to do some diagnostics, and swap a part or two. perhaps the ECM could be re-programmed.
if i had to start somewhere, i'd verify the torque convertor is locking up and your vehicle is turning the proper RPMs at 55 or 60. i'd ask if they performed the idle-learn (if it is necessary for your model year..don't know). i'd ask if there is any ECM program upgrades they could perform. those should cost nothing.
i'd ask if they'd be willing to swap out your MAF (or is it MAP)? sensor for another.
From my experience with a '96 Accord, which had NO servicable fluid filter from the factory, I posted that fact in response to a recent Edmunds post from a new or prospective new Accord owner about the placement of the ATF filter on new Accords. Another member corrected me that starting with the 2004 models, Honda had begun installing a spin-on filter on their automatic transmissions. As to the differential question, I'm unaware of any other front wheel drive Japanese car other than Toyota that uses a seperate drain plug for the final drive. If you are able to confirm the opposite from what I was told regarding the filter question, PLEASE post back. (My '96 Accord had a fine mesh screen internally. It could only be serviced in the event the split transmission case was opened during deep internal work.)
Stupid Honda powertrain engineers, Abbotso & Costelloru - can't even figure out how to make a V4 right...
I always like to do as much as I can myself, then to bring the car in, so it would be a good thing to find out.
Mrbill
2004 Accord ATF Filter
I've had a problem with my 2004 Accord Coupe, windows making grinding noises, now scraping and rattling. This is the 8th time I'm back at the dealership? Any suggestions?
SueR
wouldn't start after. It finally started but then it stopped again. what would cause this.
I did a search and did see a reference to a trans filter, but could not find a pic ot it's location.
Mrbill
It is automatic transmission. Sometimes I feel like lack of pressure compare to other Accord that we have during increase in road speed.
During the the first oil change I had actually called Honda and Honda had directed dealer to check the car. But end of the day they said everything is fine and wait till break in period. So I waited till now but I do not see any improvement.
I plan to call Honda next week and I would mention your comments.
As for the accords, my drive shaft leaked at 6K or so and we took it in. he said that the trans doesn't have a separate differential so when you change the trans fluid, you don't have to do a separate differential as it's all housed together. I'm almost certain that he said there isn't a filter to change either as I was suprised cause this is my first honda (loyal toyota person) and the camrys did have one. I bought that $87 shop manual for my car but can't read it till weekends (at home and I travel during the week). I'll look at it more closely and get back. Another way is to check the autozone and advanced auto websites for the 2003-2004 model years (they're the same as the 2005 I believe) and if they don't list a trans filter, then there isn't one. I'll get back after I look at the book this friday/saturday. Thanks for your reply. I really doubt it has a outside filter like an oil filter. that would be easy to spot.
I live in TORONTO specifically Scarborough. I need a good body shop hopefully cheap that will give me a deal on painting and installing a rear bumper for a 97 accord. Anybody can help that would be appreciated.
I have an Accord 2005 EX I4 Automatic that's down to around 23 MPG (about 75% highway miles, 25% light traffic). I've been keeping an eye on it the last few tanks, and it seems to be getting worse each time I fill it up (25 > 24 > 23). It's only got a few thousand miles on it. The tire pressure is normal. It seems to drive pretty normal, but it's all new to me (I've been driving an Acura Integra manual for the last fifteen years).
Please post back if you find anything out!
I just bought 2005 Honda Accord EX-V6 2 months ago and has 5K mileage on it. After I bought the car, I notice a engine vibration when I start to accelerate from the stop, at the 1st gear 1500rpm -2000rpm and 2nd gear same rpm range. The vibration and noise starts to happen after the temperature rise to the normal. I don't think it's normal to me and it really bugs me a lot. Especially when the car go uphill, the vibration and noise becomes very obvious and. This issue also make the acceleration not go smoothly.
I wend back to dealer and let them test drive the car and they told me Honda claims it's normal and about 60% of the Accord V6 engine has this issue. It results from the engine try to mix the gas and air(not sure what he was talking about). When the engine is cold the engine oil is not operating in the normal temperate that's why you can't feel it. A technician told me that after 10K this issue MIGHT go away.
I just felt very disappointed and frustrated after spend so much money and had a high expectation on this car but the engine design has a flaw. I don't know if you have the same problem and please let me know how do you response to it and is there is any way to fix it. I read some messages about engine thump at the front end but I don't know we are talking about the same thing. Thanks.
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The Honda 3 shaft transmissions do have a filter but it is sealed inside the transmission case. The ONLY way to access the filter is to remove and disassemble the transmission. Front wheel drive transmissions such as these have the differential assy built into the transmission case. The differential is lubricated with the transmission fluid inside the transmission. What you can do if you want, is drain and refill (One time) every 6000 miles or so (Every other oil change). Honda fluid is expensive, but you need to use ONLY HONDA FLUID in this transmission. Draining and refilling one of these transmissions is actually much easier than changing your engine oil and filter. I have several customers where I have rebuilt their Honda transmissions who service their transmissions this way.
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