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  • lemmerlemmer Member Posts: 2,689
    Why no love for the 325?

    I've had two BMWs with that engine. It gets around just fine even if it is no M3.
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    I like that engine too but in the newer more portly BMWs it just seems underpowered. The 330 is just about right though.
  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,386
    I like that engine too but in the newer more portly BMWs it just seems underpowered.

    This 2005 is the E46 platform. With the manual it gets around pretty well. It has all the options I want and none of the ones I don't want.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
    Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • volvomaxvolvomax Member Posts: 5,238
    Mazda is probably in the $16-17,000 range

    Bimmer auction prices are in the same range.
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    Yeah I guess my memory is tainted by driving a 2007 328 recently. Hmhh I think that one was AWD too so would make it feel even slower.

    Totally off topic but being one of the BMW experts if someone was looking for an E30 platform with the 2.5 liter engine what would be the best year to get?
  • lemmerlemmer Member Posts: 2,689
    I'll throw in my $.02.

    In real general terms, get an i model engine. Avoid the e (eta) engine. Less power and less robust.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,761
    I just can't see going from a mazdaspeed3 to the 325, that's all. I mean, yeah, its a return to RWD, but we're talking about a heavier car with like 60 less ponies.

    I am with BR. The 330 is the car.

    And, BR, keep in mind, the recent 328 is almost the same as the previous 330 (ALMOST). There is no more 170hp 3-series.

    I have an E30 325i. IIRC, that has almost the same power as the last model 325, yet my E30 is quite a bit lighter. I love the handling and feel of my E30, but it leaves ALOT to be desired in the power department.

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  • lemmerlemmer Member Posts: 2,689
    Those E30 convertibles are heavy...

    I have an E36 convertible which is probably even heavier.

    The 2.5 in a coupe or a Z3 is probably more bearable.
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    Yeah I would most likely go for a coupe E30 although a sedan in good shape for the right price would work too. I just think the the E30 looks much better as a coupe and I wouldn't want the weight of a convertible.

    I wouldn't bother with an eta series engine either. Is there any real difference between the various model years or is going with the last year the E30 was made in coupe for the best? I think the last year for the E30 coupe was either 1990 or 1991.
  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,386
    Totally off topic but being one of the BMW experts if someone was looking for an E30 platform with the 2.5 liter engine what would be the best year to get?

    Essentially you'd want a 325i or 325is- no 325e, es, or 325. Buy on condition rather than just age or mileage, though all other things being equal, newer is better.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
    Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,386
    Thanks!

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
    Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • zloxzlox Member Posts: 2
    Volvomax, (or another kind person) can you get me dealer auction numbers for this car? Thanks in advance

    Location: Queens NY
    Year/Make/Model: 2006 BMW 325xi
    Body Style: 4dr
    Engine: 3L 6 cyl auto
    Driveline: AWD
    Mileage: 25000
    Color: black/black
    Major Options: leather, heated seats
    Condition:
    clean, minor cosmetic scratches, deep scratches on bottom of front bumper
    Details of interior and exterior, including dings, scratches etc.
    Tires - 50% worn
    Brakes - new
    Maintenance - oil change and brakes
    Other: VIN WBAVD13576KV08399
  • volvomaxvolvomax Member Posts: 5,238
    Avg condition car is going to be @ $23,000
  • frag235frag235 Member Posts: 81
    "Bose-yuck!-stereo w/six disc changer)"

    Just curious Roadburner, I thought Bose made a great car sound system..what don't you like about it?
  • cccompsoncccompson Member Posts: 2,382
    Hmmm....if you might be interested in a private sale, kindly PM me - just click on my username for the email address.
  • fezofezo Member Posts: 10,386
    Giving up the Mazdaspeed? Do you deliver??
    2015 Mazda 6 Grand Touring, 2014 Mazda 3 Sport Hatchback, 1999 Mazda Miata 2004 Toyota Camry LE, 1999.
  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,386
    Just curious Roadburner, I thought Bose made a great car sound system..what don't you like about it?

    Bass is muddy, soundstage is ill-defined, treble verges on strident at times.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
    Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,344
    I thought Bose made a great car sound system..what don't you like about it?

    The old saying goes, "no highs, no lows, must be Bose!" I have an older Bose Acoustimass system in my living room, and have had to replace the remote (battery drain) and repalce the LED (blew out). The angled speakers do a good job of "filling" an area with sound, but sound muddy.
  • danbone111danbone111 Member Posts: 47
    FYI: that exact car crossed over the auction block at $24,500 plus auction fee, plus transport, plus etc. Saw the autotrader.com ad, at $26,995 not a bad buy for a black/black car. Depending on the other aspects of the deal (financing, trade in, etc) that will determine the rest.
  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,386
    Giving up the Mazdaspeed? Do you deliver??

    I've had a real hassle trying to get a tire replaced, and now I've found out that Mazda has recalled-and will no longer warranty-their own cold air intake, due to a lean fuel trim problems on some cars. Guess what I have sitting in the basement in a pretty Mazdaspeed box? Couple that with the fact that my otherwise excellent dealer is hardnosed about modifications and I'm stuck with a box stock car. Oh yeah, I'm also hearing that Mazda-like Mitsubushi-has employees combing forums and message boards to ID cars that have been modded or used at track events. Of course, Mazda runs ads boasting of the MS3's 0-60 times(BTW, Mazda told Car and Driver not to lift on the 1-2 and 2-3 shift in order to obtain those numbers) and 155 mph top speed, but heaven forbid if you get caught driving one at a HPDE. Contrast that with my local BMW dealership- where a couple of salespeople actively participate in BMW CCA driving events and where my service advisor owns a Z4, an E36 M3 and a Triumph Sprint. Don't get me wrong, if you burn out the clutch at the drag strip or blow an engine in wheel to wheel competition, the repairs should be on your nickel. That said, you shouldn't lose your warranty coverage just for fitting an aftermarket intake or using the car in a non-timed HPDE like a BMW CCA driving school. Of course, Mazda has the right to administer their warranty program any way they see fit, but I can and will take my business to manufacturers who don't penalize you for driving the car the way it was designed to be driven.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
    Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,344
    Last I heard, in the VW community, Huffman was considered to be friendlier towards aftermarket modifications than Bachman. That said, they refused to offer any assistance on a borked timing belt on my dad's TDI Beetle, only 20,000 miles after it was installed; hence, they won't get my repeat business (nor will Bachman, for other reasons--thankfully, I have a friend in the biz who can obtain nearly any make of used car at a fair price).

    The way the ECM on most modern cars is programmed (to introduce a delay in the throttle and subsequent RPM rise), I'm surprised a manual shift without lifting is hazardous to the clutch at all.
  • ktremorktremor Member Posts: 2
    I have a 2005 Toyota Matrix Basic that has 34750 miles on it with the lease ending at the end of the month. The end of lease forum thinks that it would be a good buy to keep, but they said to check with this forum to make sure because there are more experts here on car valuation

    The car information
    Location: Providence, RI
    2005 Toyota Matrix Base Black
    Wagon
    Auto 4 cylinders
    34750 miles
    Power Windows, Power Locks, AM/FM CD, Keyless Entry
    Condition: Minor Scratches, No Dings
    Tires: Newer Due to Flats
    Brakes: Good

    Engine: Was replaced at 6,000 miles due to negligence by a oil change company. For an employee not correctly replacing a $5 part cost them $10K

    The KBB suggested retail value is 15,795.
    The KBB private party value is 13,250
    The KBB trade in value 10550.
    TMV Trade-In value 11,633
    TMV Private Party 12,722
    TMV Dealer Retail 13,634

    Toyota Financial Services said that it would be $8,900 and I have put about 9K into it.

    I don't know much about cars and was wondering if it would be a good decision if the I bought it.
  • pzaimespzaimes Member Posts: 2
    I have a 2001 Honda CR-V EX with 80K miles on it. The breaks are good and tires have plenty of tread. There's a small dent in the drivers side panel behind to the right of the backseat door. Otherwise, it has been maintained by the book. What can I expect to get for a trade-in in the Exeter/Portsmouth/Manchester, NH area? I am looking to trade it asap. Thank you.
  • volvomaxvolvomax Member Posts: 5,238
    FWD or AWD?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,512
    I think all EX models for GEN I were AWD....

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  • woodywwwoodyww Member Posts: 1,806
    (E30) I'd agree with roadburner: all other things being equal, newer is better, + driver's air bag is good, and, also to get a 325is. Altho I wouldn't turn down a 318is, if it was nice.....a 325ix is a whole 'nother discussion, but if I stumbled onto a nice one, it might get me interested.....
  • pzaimespzaimes Member Posts: 2
    It's AWD
  • frag235frag235 Member Posts: 81
    lol...thanks Road and Corvette, I guess Bose systems are overrated :P
  • steine13steine13 Member Posts: 2,825
    Looking at auction data, $9 is about rock bottom for this car, meaning it would bring that at auction, and $9,500 if it's nice.

    Being the base model and 4 years old, it's not much of a prize, but it''s a reliable car with good gas mileage, so it's an easy resale for any dealer.

    The replaced engine is a big wild card. I personally wouldn't touch the car with a ten-foot pole, as a matter of principle. Why live with the extra complication when so many cars are out there?

    You on the other hand know the car, and the only issue with it might be questionable resale.

    I recommend you buy the car out if you like it and want to keep it. This is positively the cheapest money you'll ever buy a solid car with a known history for.

    Do not buy it to resell it. You may make some money, or you'll find yourself spending time and money making it presentable, and losing $800 for your trouble.

    Cheers -Mathias
  • bc13bc13 Member Posts: 32
    Trying to find out how much the above vehicle is worth. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.

    NYC area
    4WD
    21,000 miles
    Black (ext)/Black & Camel Int
    Great condition
    Sunroof
    CD Changer
  • emeraldctyguyemeraldctyguy Member Posts: 2
    I'm serious about a trade-in Great condition...has minor rock chips repaired on hood and fender soon to the tune of $780...done at Honda dealer. Miles 15,500. Interior carpeting and upholstery excellent. I looked over all 3 values, KBB,TMV &NADA. In averaging the 3, I come up with $14,784. This is for a "good" trade-in value. What's the lowest I should negotiate in trying to get the best deal. BTW..used 06's of comparable condition and miles are listed privately & at dealers for $19,500-$21,000.
    Thanks for any responses.. ;)
  • dave210dave210 Member Posts: 242
    I'm assuming Accord, but the model of the Honda would be helpful and where you're located etc. The orange suggested information above the *Post a Message* should help you out.
  • emeraldctyguyemeraldctyguy Member Posts: 2
    Nope....it's a Civic. Belevue, WA area. Sorry for the oversight.. :(
  • gussguss Member Posts: 1,167
    BTW..used 06's of comparable condition and miles are listed privately & at dealers for $19,500-$21,000

    Of course listing and getting are two different things. I was looking at leftover '07's last September and could get a 4 door EX for $18,500. I am not an expert here but if you can get $14.8 for your 3 year old Civic , that would should like pretty good money, because the dealer still needs room for markup between his an a new one.
  • nareknarek Member Posts: 37
    Hi, can anyone help me decide?

    Gas prices and the economy have me spooked, and a good long look at the new '09 Hyundai Sonata Limited have me convinced it's time to find my "baby" a new home. I'm in Central Florida.

    ~2004 Honda Pilot EX. One owner, non-smoking
    ~3.5L V6 gets 17-22mpg
    ~Redrock pearl
    ~Chrome running boards as the only option.
    ~65,500 miles
    ~Run almost exclusively on Mid-grade gas
    ~4 brand new, top of the line Continental tires only a week old
    ~Fresh maintenance: oil change, (synthetic), fuel injection cleaning, new air filter
    ~Brakes done about 2 months ago
    ~Recently detailed
    ~All Honda suggested maintenance and any service work done on schedule at Honda dealership (until about a year ago, when I finally figured out that they had started to nickle and dime me to death once the 36/36,000mi warranty was up)
    ~No accidents, no paint or body work done
    ~Interior clean and stain free
    ~Only defects are 2 shallow shopping cart-type dings about the diameter of a nickle, and one 2" long scratch on the front passenger door
    ~Still have the original Honda car care kit w/touch up paint
    ~The title is clear

    I looked at both trade-in and private sale values from several sources, and they are all over the map. trade-in values ran from a low of $10,580 (Black Book online) to a high of $15,350. (NADA)

    Last night I was offered $10,000 trade on that new Sonata. He upped it to $11,000 when I said I would try selling myself first and would be back with cash.

    Is it THAT bad for the SUV market that that'd the best I can do? Should I take the $11,000 and run?

    If I can do better selling it privately, what should be my asking price in order to sell it quickly?

    Any advice or insight would be greatly appreciated!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,512
    Brand new '08 Pilots have big incentives, and are selling for $7K+ off of MSRP..

    That has to kill the value of the used models..

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  • nareknarek Member Posts: 37
    I'm screwed. :cry:

    If the best I can get for a 4 year old vehicle I paid $30k for is $11K, I might as well keep it. It would take too long to make up the difference in gas savings to trade it in for a more fuel efficient vehicle.

    I do love my Pilot. It still looks like new, and dang it handles well. Never a problem either. I just expected a better resale value than that from a Honda.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,761
    Its a 5-year-old vehicle (the '09s are right around the corner) that you've put a good number of miles on.

    Plus, you didn't pay $30k for it (at least I hope you didn't). We bought a new '03 Pilot EX-L for $29k when they were hot hot hot. So you've got the model below it a year later .... I'm guessing maybe they were going for $27k? Depends on what time of the year you purchased. So that's $16k during the 4 years you've driven it. $4k/yr ain't all that bad.

    It would take too long to make up the difference in gas savings to trade it in for a more fuel efficient vehicle.

    Yes. That is the reality for most people. Unfortunately, they still go through with it. At least you figured it out before making a mistake.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,761
    '99 BMW 328i sedan.
    5-spd manual
    Premium, sport, and climate packs
    silver over black
    80k miles

    NJ

    As always ... thanks! :)

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  • fezofezo Member Posts: 10,386
    Ha! You are hopeless. It's tough not having another car.... ;)
    2015 Mazda 6 Grand Touring, 2014 Mazda 3 Sport Hatchback, 1999 Mazda Miata 2004 Toyota Camry LE, 1999.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,761
    to tell ya the truth, the thought crossed my mind "i could dump the leased accord and get into this and lower my payment by more than $100"
    its dumb. i know. but i just can't help pondering. ;b

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • nareknarek Member Posts: 37
    I don't remember exactly what I paid for it, but $30k is stuck in my head. That could have been the total cost with tax, tags, etc. It was late '03, so the '04's were still new. Since the Pilot was still very hot then there wasn't much room for negotiation. In my area you were lucky to get your first choice color/model combination.

    Even at $4k a year, that's still a pretty hefty depreciation rate for a Honda. Even Edmunds claims depreciation on a new '08 Pilot will be only about $2500 a year averaged over 5 years.

    My biggest hang-up in all this is that I have a new job that's going to add another 7k miles a year to the car, on top of the 15k I'm already averaging.

    22,000 miles a year @ 17mpg and $4 a gallon for gas is hard to stomach. That's what brought me here looking for a more fuel efficient vehicle in the first place.

    What to do, what to do... :confuse:
  • volvomaxvolvomax Member Posts: 5,238
    Figure @ $24,000
  • volvomaxvolvomax Member Posts: 5,238
    Car is probably worth between $14-15,000.
    Although, paint work might knock that down a bit.
  • volvomaxvolvomax Member Posts: 5,238
    Truck is probably worth somewhere between $11-12,000.
  • volvomaxvolvomax Member Posts: 5,238
    Honestly, if the price of gas bothers you that much, go ahead and dump the Pilot.
    It's value is only going to go down from here.
    Get something you feel good about driving.
  • volvomaxvolvomax Member Posts: 5,238
    Probably worth $7-8,000 at the auction.
  • fezofezo Member Posts: 10,386
    Hey, ya gotta have your fun!

    I've got four cars and three drivers so I'm one to talk....
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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,761
    we used to average over 20 in ours.
    errr... i should say my wife did. i maybe got 18.5

    But, yeah, 22k miles is going to be tough. Like you are realizing, though, you can put ~108 gallons per month in the Pilot (maybe shave it down to 100 if you drive more highway and/or take it easy with the right foot) and be driving something that is paid for (or nearly). Or take on a new payment and maybe save 30-35 gallons per month in the process. It is maybe $140/mo savings (if gas hits $4). All depends on how you break it down, i suppose. Also depends greatly on what you buy. Heck, if you get something that gets 30 mpg average, you could potentially save yourself ~$250/mo.

    But, if you are anything like my wife, you want something just as big and useful as the Pilot, so gas savings ain't gonna add up.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,761
    we're sittin on 6 cars for 2 drivers at the moment. ;b

    thanks, vmax. So their $9990 asking price is a real reasonable starting point.

    of course, what i really want at the moment is an S60R ....

    what was that terry would tell akangl every couple of weeks? oh yeah, "stay away from the car lots!"
    I'll keep chanting that to myself.

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