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I've had two BMWs with that engine. It gets around just fine even if it is no M3.
This 2005 is the E46 platform. With the manual it gets around pretty well. It has all the options I want and none of the ones I don't want.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Bimmer auction prices are in the same range.
Totally off topic but being one of the BMW experts if someone was looking for an E30 platform with the 2.5 liter engine what would be the best year to get?
In real general terms, get an i model engine. Avoid the e (eta) engine. Less power and less robust.
I am with BR. The 330 is the car.
And, BR, keep in mind, the recent 328 is almost the same as the previous 330 (ALMOST). There is no more 170hp 3-series.
I have an E30 325i. IIRC, that has almost the same power as the last model 325, yet my E30 is quite a bit lighter. I love the handling and feel of my E30, but it leaves ALOT to be desired in the power department.
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I have an E36 convertible which is probably even heavier.
The 2.5 in a coupe or a Z3 is probably more bearable.
I wouldn't bother with an eta series engine either. Is there any real difference between the various model years or is going with the last year the E30 was made in coupe for the best? I think the last year for the E30 coupe was either 1990 or 1991.
Essentially you'd want a 325i or 325is- no 325e, es, or 325. Buy on condition rather than just age or mileage, though all other things being equal, newer is better.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Location: Queens NY
Year/Make/Model: 2006 BMW 325xi
Body Style: 4dr
Engine: 3L 6 cyl auto
Driveline: AWD
Mileage: 25000
Color: black/black
Major Options: leather, heated seats
Condition:
clean, minor cosmetic scratches, deep scratches on bottom of front bumper
Details of interior and exterior, including dings, scratches etc.
Tires - 50% worn
Brakes - new
Maintenance - oil change and brakes
Other: VIN WBAVD13576KV08399
Just curious Roadburner, I thought Bose made a great car sound system..what don't you like about it?
Bass is muddy, soundstage is ill-defined, treble verges on strident at times.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
The old saying goes, "no highs, no lows, must be Bose!" I have an older Bose Acoustimass system in my living room, and have had to replace the remote (battery drain) and repalce the LED (blew out). The angled speakers do a good job of "filling" an area with sound, but sound muddy.
I've had a real hassle trying to get a tire replaced, and now I've found out that Mazda has recalled-and will no longer warranty-their own cold air intake, due to a lean fuel trim problems on some cars. Guess what I have sitting in the basement in a pretty Mazdaspeed box? Couple that with the fact that my otherwise excellent dealer is hardnosed about modifications and I'm stuck with a box stock car. Oh yeah, I'm also hearing that Mazda-like Mitsubushi-has employees combing forums and message boards to ID cars that have been modded or used at track events. Of course, Mazda runs ads boasting of the MS3's 0-60 times(BTW, Mazda told Car and Driver not to lift on the 1-2 and 2-3 shift in order to obtain those numbers) and 155 mph top speed, but heaven forbid if you get caught driving one at a HPDE. Contrast that with my local BMW dealership- where a couple of salespeople actively participate in BMW CCA driving events and where my service advisor owns a Z4, an E36 M3 and a Triumph Sprint. Don't get me wrong, if you burn out the clutch at the drag strip or blow an engine in wheel to wheel competition, the repairs should be on your nickel. That said, you shouldn't lose your warranty coverage just for fitting an aftermarket intake or using the car in a non-timed HPDE like a BMW CCA driving school. Of course, Mazda has the right to administer their warranty program any way they see fit, but I can and will take my business to manufacturers who don't penalize you for driving the car the way it was designed to be driven.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
The way the ECM on most modern cars is programmed (to introduce a delay in the throttle and subsequent RPM rise), I'm surprised a manual shift without lifting is hazardous to the clutch at all.
The car information
Location: Providence, RI
2005 Toyota Matrix Base Black
Wagon
Auto 4 cylinders
34750 miles
Power Windows, Power Locks, AM/FM CD, Keyless Entry
Condition: Minor Scratches, No Dings
Tires: Newer Due to Flats
Brakes: Good
Engine: Was replaced at 6,000 miles due to negligence by a oil change company. For an employee not correctly replacing a $5 part cost them $10K
The KBB suggested retail value is 15,795.
The KBB private party value is 13,250
The KBB trade in value 10550.
TMV Trade-In value 11,633
TMV Private Party 12,722
TMV Dealer Retail 13,634
Toyota Financial Services said that it would be $8,900 and I have put about 9K into it.
I don't know much about cars and was wondering if it would be a good decision if the I bought it.
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Being the base model and 4 years old, it's not much of a prize, but it''s a reliable car with good gas mileage, so it's an easy resale for any dealer.
The replaced engine is a big wild card. I personally wouldn't touch the car with a ten-foot pole, as a matter of principle. Why live with the extra complication when so many cars are out there?
You on the other hand know the car, and the only issue with it might be questionable resale.
I recommend you buy the car out if you like it and want to keep it. This is positively the cheapest money you'll ever buy a solid car with a known history for.
Do not buy it to resell it. You may make some money, or you'll find yourself spending time and money making it presentable, and losing $800 for your trouble.
Cheers -Mathias
NYC area
4WD
21,000 miles
Black (ext)/Black & Camel Int
Great condition
Sunroof
CD Changer
Thanks for any responses..
Of course listing and getting are two different things. I was looking at leftover '07's last September and could get a 4 door EX for $18,500. I am not an expert here but if you can get $14.8 for your 3 year old Civic , that would should like pretty good money, because the dealer still needs room for markup between his an a new one.
Gas prices and the economy have me spooked, and a good long look at the new '09 Hyundai Sonata Limited have me convinced it's time to find my "baby" a new home. I'm in Central Florida.
~2004 Honda Pilot EX. One owner, non-smoking
~3.5L V6 gets 17-22mpg
~Redrock pearl
~Chrome running boards as the only option.
~65,500 miles
~Run almost exclusively on Mid-grade gas
~4 brand new, top of the line Continental tires only a week old
~Fresh maintenance: oil change, (synthetic), fuel injection cleaning, new air filter
~Brakes done about 2 months ago
~Recently detailed
~All Honda suggested maintenance and any service work done on schedule at Honda dealership (until about a year ago, when I finally figured out that they had started to nickle and dime me to death once the 36/36,000mi warranty was up)
~No accidents, no paint or body work done
~Interior clean and stain free
~Only defects are 2 shallow shopping cart-type dings about the diameter of a nickle, and one 2" long scratch on the front passenger door
~Still have the original Honda car care kit w/touch up paint
~The title is clear
I looked at both trade-in and private sale values from several sources, and they are all over the map. trade-in values ran from a low of $10,580 (Black Book online) to a high of $15,350. (NADA)
Last night I was offered $10,000 trade on that new Sonata. He upped it to $11,000 when I said I would try selling myself first and would be back with cash.
Is it THAT bad for the SUV market that that'd the best I can do? Should I take the $11,000 and run?
If I can do better selling it privately, what should be my asking price in order to sell it quickly?
Any advice or insight would be greatly appreciated!
That has to kill the value of the used models..
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If the best I can get for a 4 year old vehicle I paid $30k for is $11K, I might as well keep it. It would take too long to make up the difference in gas savings to trade it in for a more fuel efficient vehicle.
I do love my Pilot. It still looks like new, and dang it handles well. Never a problem either. I just expected a better resale value than that from a Honda.
Plus, you didn't pay $30k for it (at least I hope you didn't). We bought a new '03 Pilot EX-L for $29k when they were hot hot hot. So you've got the model below it a year later .... I'm guessing maybe they were going for $27k? Depends on what time of the year you purchased. So that's $16k during the 4 years you've driven it. $4k/yr ain't all that bad.
It would take too long to make up the difference in gas savings to trade it in for a more fuel efficient vehicle.
Yes. That is the reality for most people. Unfortunately, they still go through with it. At least you figured it out before making a mistake.
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5-spd manual
Premium, sport, and climate packs
silver over black
80k miles
NJ
As always ... thanks!
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its dumb. i know. but i just can't help pondering. ;b
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Even at $4k a year, that's still a pretty hefty depreciation rate for a Honda. Even Edmunds claims depreciation on a new '08 Pilot will be only about $2500 a year averaged over 5 years.
My biggest hang-up in all this is that I have a new job that's going to add another 7k miles a year to the car, on top of the 15k I'm already averaging.
22,000 miles a year @ 17mpg and $4 a gallon for gas is hard to stomach. That's what brought me here looking for a more fuel efficient vehicle in the first place.
What to do, what to do... :confuse:
Although, paint work might knock that down a bit.
It's value is only going to go down from here.
Get something you feel good about driving.
I've got four cars and three drivers so I'm one to talk....
errr... i should say my wife did. i maybe got 18.5
But, yeah, 22k miles is going to be tough. Like you are realizing, though, you can put ~108 gallons per month in the Pilot (maybe shave it down to 100 if you drive more highway and/or take it easy with the right foot) and be driving something that is paid for (or nearly). Or take on a new payment and maybe save 30-35 gallons per month in the process. It is maybe $140/mo savings (if gas hits $4). All depends on how you break it down, i suppose. Also depends greatly on what you buy. Heck, if you get something that gets 30 mpg average, you could potentially save yourself ~$250/mo.
But, if you are anything like my wife, you want something just as big and useful as the Pilot, so gas savings ain't gonna add up.
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thanks, vmax. So their $9990 asking price is a real reasonable starting point.
of course, what i really want at the moment is an S60R ....
what was that terry would tell akangl every couple of weeks? oh yeah, "stay away from the car lots!"
I'll keep chanting that to myself.
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