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Gosh darn those Hollywood elites, darn them all to heck
What is truly hilarious are so called “faux-butch devilspawn haulers & baby SUVs” at its core, ...station wagons
So all anybody needs to do to get more sedan station wagons back on US markets is/are to get more folks to buy ... more. But, I think that is pretty obvious. It’s also REAL obvious that a lot of people are NOT buying sedan station wagons.
Oh, those exist as diesels in Europe too, just not for here.
I was kidding her: first $10,000 cash $100 bills, wire or cashiers check takes it !
Even though I’ve been very happy with two diesel sedans, I will probably not buy another sedan, even though I have long been able to buy specific cars for specific purposes.
My sense is that the (2018) used sedan car markets will have the best deals, yet solid pricing; but will not be as good as (compact to large) CUV’s.
I have to pinch myself knowing that the 2009 Jetta TDI & 2012 Touareg TDI used (buy back) car pricing are probably once in a blue moon. Catching the VW’s stock slides & pops were also (much more than) a hoot!!
Merry Christmas to those on this board.
Got to love those eco con’s policies? ! The local utility fell from high of $71.57, to low of $44.50 (-27.07) in a very short period of time. Yee Haw! The dividend has been suspended, temporarily, ...they say, in anticipation of punishments of the usual suspects. (That fellow Chicken Little is working overtime) Some lawsuits are trying to place partial, if not all the blame for the Santa Rosa, CA fires on the local utilities. I can’t wait for the inevitable rise in kWh electrical prices?
It’s really sad because some people ( of the known app 8,500 parcels) that are trying to rebuild “exactly” what they lost are getting hit with fees of up to $50,000 & being forced to do upgrades not (IAW) in accordance with the original plans.
But real life: is pivot, pivot, pivot!? Given the price & dividend falls, there will be times to get back into it. Till then, more play time.
Even when they don't want to be, people are practical in their cores. Since I was a teen, I have praised the practical functionality of both vans and wagons. Regardless of their form, the fact that these vehicles have come do dominate the market makes me smile just a little.
Granted, there are many other details (diesel, manual transmission, option of a nanny-less driving experience) that are woefully under-represented, but the widespread availability of hatches and wagons being marketed as CUV/SUV needs no further justification.
Naturally, I would be interested in how the 9 speed A/T performs with a 2.1 L bluetec, or latest rendition.
On the diesel side, 36.38 mpg, ULSD $3.25, 14 MB GLK 250 BT, 2.1L, 7 sp A/T, t t, the GLC’s predecessor, normal*2.
For the GLC, it lists 5l/100km for both 220d and 250d. Both cars are different tunings of the 2.1 with the 9-speed.
Your GLK BT is a keeper, I think that will end up being a pretty rare car, and maybe in some demand from MB enthusiasts.
228 are for sale.
High price is a 2015 7400 mile unit in OKC, for $38K
Low price is for a 2013 with (get this) 224K for $15K
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A wow each for both the high and low price !
For at least 14 years (since 2004) the http://www.lubadmin.com/upload/produit/FichePDF/lang_1/5833.pdf diesel oil specification VW 507.00 has been extremely robust! ( 30,000 Kms to 50,000 Kms. (18,641 miles to 31,068 miles ) Indeed, app 30,000 miles OCI’s have clocked over app 433,000 miles.
I have, of course run 20,000 miles OCI’s (Mobil 1) on gasoline engines for app 1.225 M miles vs diesels.
Mobil One ESP X1 0w30, ESP 5w30. https://mobiloil.com/en/product-selector?Year=2014&Make=TWVyY2VkZXMtQmVueg==&Model=R0xLMjUw&Engine=Qmx1ZXRlYyA0TWF0aWMgNC1DeWwgMi4xIChCbHVldGVjKSAoRElFU0VMKQ==
But Mobil One’s web cite shows 5 viscosities under 4 specifications that are fine. Some are forwards and some are backwards compatible. And then there’s Mobile Delvac.
Amazon was (2014) having a great sale ($3.75 to $4.25 per, as I recall, specification update/change) on Mobil One ESP 5w40, TMI story here 2, so I bought 5 each 6 packs of those, shipping included, specifically 120,000 miles worth. So 36 mpg has been/is being (57,000 miles) posted with 5w40 oil. I would surmise better mpg with the lower viscosity, i.e., ESP 0w30.
Oils can be bought from 55 gal dealer size to 32 oz qt/33.8 oz liter.
2040? https://finance.yahoo.com/news/fossil-fuels-fare-2040-180000785.html
Assuming the dealer is using the correct DIESEL specification oil, your manual shoul list the correct diesel specifications. Once the actual specification/s is/are known, the brand niche choices opens up considerably. One bottom line becomes, you can then shop on price.
Due to work schedules, we’ve done more than a few 210 miles long (diesel)“commutes” in nearly bumper to bumper traffic to South Lake Tahoe from San Jose, CA.
Filling after the low fuel lamp lights, posts a pretty consistent 36 mpg, w/s/s/f. This last posted 36 mpg. (553 miles/15.2 gal=36.38)
2 item TMI & non diesel related items: 1. psi changes +/- 1 # every 10 F degrees. This can & does have an mpg effect. 2. While watching an Xmas day NBA TV game, Exxon Mobil is advertising 7 additives, not including 10% ethanol. & winterization additives.
There are huge & many deals in gasoline used car land! ? There is a big push to sell 17.55M NEW cars 2017. There are easily 34 M (2017)use car transactions.
Just calculated cost of DEF for the first 6800 miles on our GMC. $.0044 per mile. Hardly worth thinking about with Walmart selling Peak DEF at $10.98 for 2.5 gallons.
I’m grateful for 60 mo zero down & % financing! I literally did not do one oil change (on my own dime) before the buyback! I’ve also never gotten paid/reimbursed to drive a car for 5 plus years. The brouhaha was also central to great VW stocks market opportunities; slightly before, during & after (very slow comparatively) . It’s very hard for me to look these gift horses in the mouths! VW, by far has been a fantastic auto oem !
We are totally enjoying the 2014 MB GLK 250 BT! The Twin Turbo 2.1 L diesel has been seamless!
I’ve have had extremely good luck with a 17 year-old (GM) Corvette Z06 (385 # ft) I still follow its (going forward) progress. It’s absolutely wild to think of (current) 650 # ft of torque!
De facto, the next (NV) smog only emissions check (without modifications) will give you @ least another two-year operating period.
One can still chose non operation (NV) status & that should preserve your September 2015 used car values, with non operation status saving you a series of fees, while you put zero mileage on it. It seems that holding a non modified Touareg TDI 3.0 L longer is panning out to have higher resale value.
The two TDI turn ins are now history, for me. The buyback monies received & operational monies saved are bearing way more fruit than if I’d kept the TDI’s..
A planned NON operation will REQUIRE a smog certification ONLY upon planned operation.
I put the 2003 VW Jetta TDI on NON, no smog nor other operation fees were due. When put back IN operation, those fees & smog test (the diesel smog test measures ZERO emissions) were due.
Nor would I register before I absolutely had to !
It’s hard to “ fog” ball $$’s before during & after TDI emissions modifications. We already know the EPA is not about to jack boot a NV TDI in non/ops status. Well I’m really advocating us to stay within the parameters to the absolute edge of the envelope. $$ Values @ September 2015 modified by miles are two starting points.
Indeed CARB/EPA “diesel gate” was beyond light years ridiculous. $$’s & politically based factors among others are the places to follow the real money flows.
Garage to garage, 42.5 mpg computer calculated @ 66 mph. The New Year’s eve traffic flows out of South Lake Tahoe, CA to SJ, CA were very light.
The short answer, the M1 guide says that 5w30 meets the VW 507.00 oil specification. If so, & per se, I’d have ZERO issues using it.
But I remember you writing in a past post, you have other services warranties/ guarantees like free brake pad & rotor replacement. I’d used that at a the dealer if you have that on tap.
I would recommend oil filters: Mann, Mahle, or the OEM. They are designed and specified to go 31,068 miles/50,000 Kms. The longer answer to oil experiences: Mobil One, Mobil One EPS, Delvac One, BP, Total INEO. There is a lot of history and UOA’s on Bobistheoilguy.com. If I recall correctly, 3.0L Tourareg TDI will take approximately shy of 9 L/quarts. (electronic dipstick) Having one or two L/qts on hand would be a good idea.
But the on the other hand, I had no issues running Fram ($2.50)or Walmart ($1.99) oil filters gasoline, with 20,000 miles oci’s, over 1.5 M miles. From that point of you it’s been absolutely stunning to absolutely boring.
ADVANTAGE DIESEL! ( above and below )
...”Garage to garage, 42.5 mpg computer calculated @ 66 mph. The New Year’s eve traffic flows out of South Lake Tahoe, CA to SJ, CA were very light”...
The car got app 6.5 mpg better, when seemingly driven more like how I perceive Fintail to drive his non 4 matic sedan! ? I’m sure mpg would be even more exciting, if my wife learned to use “snooze” control in the appropriate parts of this down grade leg. Where is Geddes (mpg guru) when ya need him?
This 210 miles leg was done in wintertime with a expected loss - of 10 to 15% (-3.6 mpg to -5.4 mpg) .!? Instead, there was a gain of app 18.05 % (36 mpg avg).!?
The challenge was lost by RUG/PUG gasoline, gasoline hybrid, E10, E15, E85, EV (-40%) .!? So why would anybody wanna get 36 mpg to 42.5 mpg, when they can get 19 to 22 mpg ?
And here the environmental cons/CARB wants to get rid of 93 %+ better mpg!
So how can/does this affect diesel auto oems here?
China’s UNMIGATED coal fired power plants are the real drivers behind the forcing of the EV cars.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_in_China
My wife wasn't willing to stick around in Anchorage waiting on it, so we headed home in their loaner vehicle, and I'll go back at some point to fetch the Q7 when they have it squared away.
However, it was only a week or two from the time I submitted the final paperwork on the claims site to when they said I could schedule a repair, and that was way back in mid November. I could have scheduled the visit as early as mid-December.
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Of the 2018 diesel CUV choices, the Jaguar F Pace, BMW X5 35D look to be 2 good choices. The 418# ft of torque is calling to me.
@gagrice - is the diesel in the Terrain the one that is in your Canyon? Or, is it the one from the Cruze?
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Correction: there is not a V8. I stand corrected, I was cross reading about the 2018 BMW X5.
My daughter tells me of a colleague that got a total lemon a Jaguar F Pace TDI. But indeed four engine options are pretty amazing. Too bad they didn’t have 3 more diesel options.
This link is a bit dated but still pretty applicable. https://www.edmunds.com/diesel/buying-guide/#diesel-suvs-pod
A close (Doctor) friend that got a BMW X3 gas had a catastophic GAS engine failure with very low/few miles. He was unhappy about it enough to tell me to stay away! He is a lifelong BMW fan. While I like the concept of the BMW X3 (35d, 413 # ft in a smaller CUV) forewarned is forearmed.
Ingenium 2.0 liter 4 cylinder 247 HP Turbocharged Engine
Ingenium 2.0 liter 4 cylinder 180 HP Turbocharged Diesel Engine
Ingenium 2.0 liter 4 cylinder 296 HP Turbocharged Engine (same as first engine, just more boost and power)
3.0 liter V6 380 HP Supercharged Engine
No 8 cylinder engine available.
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https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/bmw/x3/2018/overview
Is this great for gas and diesel cars bought USED out of CA state?
https://www.yahoo.com/news/california-bill-ban-fossil-fuel-120400191.html
In 2004, when I bought the $ 12.5 K Honda Civic, the 2004 Toyota Prius (competititor, but gasoline hybrid) was approximately $26 k.