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2013 and Earlier - Toyota Sienna Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • tjrrtjrr Posts: 23
    No, it is not too late to get an '04. I just bought an '04 XLE Limited two days ago. I shopped and shopped and shopped. I shoppped in person, I shopped via the phone, I shopped via email, and I also priced through AAA / BJ's wholesale, and my credit union. I eventually negotiated the deal in person. All I will say is that my original offer was well below the Edmunds invoice. After shopping I determined the dealer invoice was $1206 above Edmunds, per 3 of the dealers. They all quoted the same invoice prices. I believe I paid less than any price I have seen posted in this forum for a Limited.

    I see in your next post that you want an AWD. I recall while checking everyone's local inventory, one dealer has an AWD. I believe they are on the east side of the perimeter. If you want a FWD, white, there were 3 '04 on the west side of the perimeter at the following dealers. Each of these dealers eventually quoted prices w/in $100 or so dollars of each other. Take your choice

    Marietta Toyota
    Cherokee County Toyota
    Cobb County Toyota
  • Dealer wanted $500 over invoice, negotiated a little, got additional $200 off. Very happy. Pkg #3 is BI, typically equipped.
  • tjrrtjrr Posts: 23
    All,

    Can someone clarify what the following statement means?

    I bought mine for $$$$ over invoice.

    As I stated in my earlier post, (4724), the Edmunds invoice price is different (and the reason why is explained on a link they provide) than the one that the dealer quotes. In fact I just noticed they do not list the $220 charge for Artic Frost Pearl.

    So many postings make the claim above, but often do not give enough info, options, tax (some quote total, and make the claim), etc.

    When they use the word invoice do they mean the Edmunds invoice or dealer invoice? I suspect the later.
  • dexdex Posts: 42
    Thank you so much for the response. I am almost certainly going to get the Sienna FWD XLE LTD since those PAX tires on the Odyssey (Touring) is just too much of a hassle and a big unknown. If you don't mind can you please give me a breakdown of what you paid since that would make it so much easier for me. I know that Toyota dealers in Atlanta seem to always add that Toyoguard option so I am curious to see if you had to have that as well. Thanks and I will let you know what transpires.
  • dexdex Posts: 42
    When I go to the dealership, is it best to talk to a regular salesperson or should I talk with the internet salesperson ?
  • cabincabin Posts: 2
    We just had a frustrating experience. We placed a factory order for a 2005 XLE AWD with no packages with a dealer and even placed a 1K deposit. The dealer called back several days later, very embarrased, indicating that Toyota will not build a base XLE AWD without any packages. The cheapest package they have is GK (leather seats, side airbags, and sunshades) for almost 3K extra MSRP. Edmunds will let you price the car without a package and Toyota lists a MSRP for the vehicle that they won't build. This seems to smack of false advertising or bait-and switch. Toyota needs to get some feedback that this is not a good way to do business. Anyone else run into similar problems?
  • cabincabin Posts: 2
    We just had a frustrating experience. We placed a factory order for a 2005 XLE AWD with no packages with a dealer and even placed a 1K deposit. The dealer called back several days later, very embarrased, indicating that Toyota will not build a base XLE AWD without any packages. The cheapest package they have is GK (leather seats, side airbags, and sunshades) for almost 3K extra MSRP. Edmunds will let you price the car without a package and Toyota lists a MSRP for the vehicle that they won't build. This seems to smack of false advertising or bait-and switch. Toyota needs to get some feedback that this is not a good way to do business. Anyone else run into similar problems?
  • I went to many dealers in North Jersey area, and the best deal I can get is $33,800 for XLE Limited w/ GV package and AFP color. Plus $129 Vehicle Protection Program (Window Entching) + $159 Documentary Fee + Tax/Registration/Title.

    I am sure this is not a good price. However, this is the best deal I can find in North Jersey. The dealer told me that the demand in NJ is very high, and there is no way that anyone would sell me a Sienna XLE Limited at or near invoice price, unless I want to get the CE, LE, or XLE, but definitely not the Limited.

    Anyone in North Jersey area know of a better deal than this one? The dealer also told me that it is very hard to find a XLE Limited w/ GV, because most of them are with DVD, Navigation, or both. Is this true?
  • tjrrtjrr Posts: 23
    I did fine working with a regular salesperson. My guess is they are all salespeople who need to get there deals approved by the same person.

    As you saw from my earlier post, I tried them all, and did find with a regular salesperson at two of the dealers. The first night I gave my offer, they countered, and brought the manager over. We have a brief discussion, each holding our own ground. I went home a did more research about why my invoice price was so different from theirs, and shopped some more. I returned a few night later and made a counter offer to their offer and the deal was done in 10 minutes.
  • dexdex Posts: 42
    TJRR,
    Thanks. I actually have started the process and called both Cobb and Cherokee this afternoon and had some good discussions with them. I am assuming you will get the referral regardless whom the salesperson is.

    Cobb said they would do it for $32.9k and Cherokee $32,8k before doc and taxes. They both said their invoice price was around $32.3k. I realise that I am going to have to go in which I hate since it's takes so much time and it's not something I enjoy. Apparently Marietta Toyota is the 'CostCo' Toyota so I want to check that route as well. BTW, is the $32.8k before doc and taxes decent or do I still have a way to go. Any hints you can give me would be much appreciated. Also, do the 04s and 05s look identical or are their any cosmetic changes ?

    They all tried to talk me into rather getting an 05 model, not sure why. Will keep you posted.

    Thanks,
    Dex
  • I've read a number of posts and like another poster here I am confused by the "$xxx over invoice" posts. We sat in a salesman's office in Midland, TX yesterday morning trying to order a 2005 Sienna XLE w/ package #3 plus floormats, Scotchguard fabric, and trailer hitch. The MSRP came to $33,004 which includes freight. Numbers time came and I started w/ Edmund's invoice prices and added $1000 which put me ~$2600 below MSRP. The best they would do was $1500 below MSRP--we were $1100 apart. I'm heading to Dallas in 2 weeks to visit family, and I let them know that I would try to find a dealer in the metroplex that could "come close" to my price. The sales guy insisted that no one is discounting 2005 Siennas $2600, and we politely walked (and they let us).
     
    Question 1 - Has anyone bought a 2005 XLE for $2600 below MSRP window sticker?

    Question 2 - Does anyone have a DFW-area Toyota dealer they can recommend? We'll be in Ft. Worth and Dallas over 4 days, so we can go anywhere.

    Thanks,
    KRC
  • jhxyzjhxyz Posts: 9
    I am looking for either a 04 or 05 Sienna LE with BW package.

    Any idea what I should pay?

    JHXYZ
  • fufufufufufu Posts: 2
    >dealer's invoice includes some other fees such as ad fee and therefore is always higher than Edmunds.

    That's simply not true. An ad fee is not part of the invoice. In fact an ad fee is usually complete BS and shouldn't be paid. I would never agree to pay it. Advertising is part of the normal espenses that any business has and is included in the price of the vehicle. You don't pay an add fee when you buy a tv from an electronics store do you?
  • fufufufufufu Posts: 2
    According to what I have read the edmunds invoice price IS the dealer price. Advertising fees and destination charges are seperate expenses. Destination fees are legitimate but advertising fees are not and should never be paid IMO. Do you pay an advertising fee to walmart when you purchase something there?

    Check out sites like carinfo.com to get more info on buying a new car. I have read several books on the subject and there are several ways that dealers try to get you. On a hot item like a sienna or odyssey they may be able to get away with it but I would refuse to pay it if it was listed as part of the price.
  • jipsterjipster Louisville, KentuckyPosts: 5,720
    I agree with fufu. Toyota tried to charge me $600 for the Toyota Dealer Advertising fee. You can get away with not having to pay this on slower moving vehicles.I think generally the more variables dealers can throw at the consumer and make things confusing for them(i.e making prices difficult to compare) the better their profit margin. At best this fee is negotiable...maybe $50. At worse its a crock. Good luck shoppers!
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 11,077
    Yes, make sure you check our Smart Shopper board before buying - you can get there using the "browse by message board" feature at the left. We've got several discussions about which fees are legitimate, which ones you should question, and which ones you should never pay.

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  • jhxyzjhxyz Posts: 9
    Could you email me the sales person?

    jeff.buyvan(at)zoemail.net
  • dreasdaddreasdad Posts: 276
    the add fees are broken down separtely in the invoice so that the dealer will know what they are being charged for. Because of the different area's the add fees are diffrent. Edmunds and the other sites buy thier invoice for the Dep of Trans when the vehicles are shippeed around. They are not the invoices that the dealer's recieve from the Manufacter. I have been told it is a federal law that requires this, just like the truth in lending act that requires the rate, amount and term to be broken down on the loan contract.
  • cancancancan Posts: 4
    May I know which dealer you bought from and what is the dealer's invoice price?
  • Checked GA/TN/NC/VA area and the cheapest I could find was a dealer in Asheville, NC

    $32,721 (NO doc fees, NO out-of-state tag fees)
    2004 XLE LTD base with the following options:
    -console
    -carpet mats

    I traded my vehicle and drove out within an hour of arrival. Did not push me to buy any warranties or any other additionals.
  • soyyo1soyyo1 Posts: 18
    Check acton toyota...I got 2005 from there.

    Is outside of Boston,MA but the service is the best...I'm in California and got my there,,,But I'm getting $4000.00 less then any other place in CA.
    Edmunds really give you all the infomation,,,then is as to you to shop around....wait for the end of the month, best time to shop.

    good luck..

    I have the sienna 2005 with awd HO ,FE, v2 Z1 GBS
    wellslock for under 38,000 before tax..& 130 dollars paper work
  • Looking for an xle awd with GL CF RP. 3% works out to about 900 over the cars direct invoice which includes the regional advertising and destination.

    Does this look like a good deal?
  • cablekccablekc Posts: 54
    One of the things my wife and I are looking at in getting a new Family vehicle that can provide a quiet riding experience.

    For those that have test driven the Sienna, Quest or 2005 Odessey; which one had the most quietest drive experience?

    My wife saw the commerical for the 2005 Odessey and pointed out to me that it is able to ensure a quiet ride.

    I am sure I am not the only person that drives with a Cell phone and have found that it was difficult to hear due to the sheer amount of outside noise.
  • I live in St. Louis and am in the market for a new minivan. I have a couple of questions:

    1) I found a 2004 XLE Limited AWD DVD for $3,000 under invoice. Is this a good deal? We have not really considered AWD to date as our weather in St. Louis is not that bad in the winter.

    2) Has anyone experienced ride dissatisfaction with AWD Siennas? I have come across some posts that indicate AWD models have a much stiffer ride.

    3) We have two small children and my wife really wants the folding tray between the front seats so she can get to the back of the van easily. Almost all XLEs and XLE Limiteds have the console between the seats. Does anyone have any thoughts on the tray v. the console? Can the tray be installed after market?
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 11,077
    $3,000 under invoice?? According to our TMV report, which shows how much others are paying, that's a deal and a half. I'm seeing $3000 over invoice... only a few hundred under MSRP.

    For your other questions, you might visit our regular Toyota Sienna discussion and check with other owners about how useful the other features are. I live in St. Louis too, and while it doesn't snow a lot, roads are a disaster when it does. AWD can come in handy.

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  • jhxyzjhxyz Posts: 9
    After a few bad experiences with other dealers in New York Long Island area, I finaly got my 2005 LE 7 with Package 9(BZ) through this wonderful salesman/dealer.

    Thanks to all your inputs and feedback!

    I highly recommend this salesman/dealer...they don't play any games. Their price is best.

    Email me and glad to help!

    jeff.buyvan(at)zoemail.net
  • Thanks for you information. Can you email the name of the dealer and the salesman in NY..by the way what does 2005 Pcakage 9(BZ) include....thanks again! and best wishes on your new van....JD
  • cancancancan Posts: 4
    Does the BZ package come with the DVD? As I know the BZ package for year 2005 model is the package #6 which without DVD, however for the year 2004 model is the package #9 which comes with the DVD entainement system. May I know what is the dealer invoice price and additional service fee there?
  • Sorry---$3,000 under MSRP, not invoice.
  • I purchased a 2004 XLE package 19 (FWD) about 3 weeks ago. Paid $625 over invoice with a catch (the doc fee was $249 and the dealer would not budge). We looked at the Quest (too many negative postings and appeared to have quality issues) and the new Honda (Dealers in my are were marking up the 05 vans by $1200 and $2500 respectively over MSRP)- while I was a bit concerned about the new engine technology [Honda's warranty is only 3/36, no extended powertrain]. We are very happy (wifes van) with the Toyota but I believe I could have gotten a better discount by holding out - the salesman wore me down. The Good:
    *Styling
    *Quiet & smooth ride (Lexus of vans)
    *Averaged 19 MPG (surprised us)
    The Bad/could be improved:
    *No power seat for passenger (on a $30k van!)
    *No memory driver seat (on a $30k van!, spoiled I guess)

    That is it. The van is good (though a bit expensive). Comparing the prices to the Honda and especially the Nissan, we are very happy.
    and it should last quite a while
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