2013 and Earlier - Toyota Sienna Prices Paid and Buying Experience

mommyjan

ok, I totally see what is being said. I just priced via edmunds the 08 with pkg 2 invoice is 24345. Add another 1582 for tax, 150 for title,registration,plates we're at 26077. What is a fair amount over invoice? - like 500? I read somewhere fair could be between 2-5% over invoice.

mfletou1

I sense you're gettng the message, but...

YES, you are getting taken. None of us would buy that used car.

Here's a good way to get an idea as what you should be paying for a used car. Go to www.fitzmall.com This is a very, very reputable dealership in the greater Washington DC area that sells Toyotas. Used the drop down box and look at Sienna's. You'll see what they are charging for vehicles at various trim levels.

You'll notice that on a new '08, they are charging BELOW invoice. So you can use that as a guide when you deal with dealers in your area. I can tell you that I have looked at '08 Sienna's myself and had no problem getting an offer at invoice--I'm sure if I was ready to buy, I could do better than that. However, we decided that if we are buying, we're going to go with a new 2007 Honda Odyssey, which are currently selling at over $5000 off MSRP thanks to a $2000 Honda rebate.

mfletou1

http://www.fitzmall.com/carfind/resultsb.asp?Search=NEW&ID=T123198&photo=TO08533- 6&loc=FTO&mall=CH&year=2008&mk_code=TO

2008 Toyota Sienna Minivan

CHAMBERSBURG PA.
1-800-811-7519

Body: LE 7 PASS
Color: Salsa Red Pearl
Interior: Gray/Stone
Stock#: T123198
Model#: 5336
VIN#: 5TDZK23C88S123198
Delivered Internet Price:
$25,660
Delivered Value Price:
$26,029
Factory Invoice:
$26,029
MSRP:
$28,753

gunga64

Sorry for beating you up. Heres an internet ad for our local toyota that is known to price their autos below invoice. I bought 2 from them below invoice in the past.

I don't know what the CE lacks but it is very interesting how much cheaper they are. Maybe they have a bench seat instead of buckets and some other features.

All you have to add to these prices is tax tag title and 599.00 dealer fee. I am pretty sure the dealer fee is not included. But thats it. The CE price is just very nice to me.

http://home.toyotaoforlando.com/sienna.aspx

Note on the bottom they break up the rebates etc to get to the price. This dealership actually sells their autos at this price. Plus the dealerfee added later I think.

That fitz place has a great price out the door as well. But you have to add tax it does bring it up to 27k+

gunga64

Ok I see the difference between ce and le I did a comparison on edmunds.

To tell you the truth the only option I like in the LE is
cruise control. I myself would get the CE and have the cruise option. Many of those other features can become problem issues in the future with sensors going bad etc.
I am going through that now myself.

But there is a long list of things on the LE that make the price acceptable. I hate my daytime running lights.

privacy glass
driver seat power not available ce
heated mirrors
cruise optional
steering wheel audio
seatback storage
traction control
stability control
engine immobilizer
daytime running lights

digitalbeachbu

I agree. My price for the same exact package, out the door, was $26,060. They jerked me around for several weeks and I told them I knew what they were paying for it invoice. They finally gave in and I got exactly what I wanted. If I had not researched the prices I would have been paying $2500 over the price.

taken1

The dealer told me the Invoice price for a 2008 Sienna LE was $24,741 when it was in Edmunds for $24,147. He claimed he was giving me $295 below invoice. When I questioned him I told him I thought they transposed the last 3 digits and he said for brand new models Edmunds source of data is often wrong. The invoice price of the 2007 was $300 higher than the 2008 model so maybe he was telling the truth.

dirkg

I can't see how to get your exact figures, but are you in NC, SC, GA, AL or FL? I think you have to add about $700 to the invoice price in those states, it's on the Edmunds options page though. So are sure you entered your van and location info correctly in Edmunds, and that you were talking about the same van with the dealer?

Anyway, the Edmunds numbers are correct, if the dealer says they are not he is mistaken or more likely he is lying. Plenty of people have bought vans based on the Edmunds numbers.

taken1

Edmund Invoice Base 23,277
QE package 185
Destination 685
TOTAL 24,147

Don't live in one of those states

siennami

Yep, make sure that you can live without any of those things listed before you decide on a CE, cause you won't have them on a CE. You can opt to have privacy glass, I believe, but you'll have to negotiate for it, something I didn't know about when I got mine. Cruise control came with mine, and I activated the DRLs with some help. I kinda do wish I had some of the other goodies, BUT, the CE is what I can afford right at the moment. An engine immobilizer would be nice, considering I've already had one Sienna stolen from me!
I hope that those suggestions help you in your decision!

rlmiller9

What is the extra 700 in our State for ?
Is it the SouthEast distributor thing ?
If so, how does Toyota let them get it away with that ?
We have had 3 siennas know and it grinds me to pay them 700 bucks to etch the glass :mad:

dirkg

Yeah I think your dealer was jerking you around on the numbers, but the price for your van was 24,446 then? If so I don't think you got taken, you got a pretty good deal, $299 over invoice is not bad for an '08 model. I paid about 200 over invoice for an LE with more options. Sure some people have posted that they got invoice or even less, but it seems most are paying a little over invoice A few hundred dollars either way is not that big a deal in my opinion. How much is your time worth, would you rather spend another weekend in car dealerships trying to save a couple hundred bucks? Not me!

dirkg

I don't live in one of those states so I don't know what is up with that extra $756, but yeah Edmunds says it the South East Toyota distributor thing. Sounds like some kind of mafia deal!

taken1

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Yes, 24,446. I guess I did alright then if it was $299 over invoice. The price I paid was still about $1,000 below Edmund's TMV.

minivanowner

I am new to the forum, internet pricing & etc.

I am looking to buy a LE 8-passengers during the second week of Dec. and have the following questions.

1. When is a good time to start getting quotes?
2.The inventory list of the dealers around my area have additional options which I do not need. Will listing only options I want seriously affect the quote as there are non either in stock or available?

Thanks in advance.

jasilby

Just thought I would throw this one out there since I am having trouble finding the invoice pricing for the Leather option. Looking at an 2008 XLE, EVP #1, tow prep pkg, 17" wheels, and one or two other items. I can't seem to find anything to let me know the invoice price of the leather upgrade though. Anyone have that info? I am in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area and have decided to go the fighting chance route. Will post my experiences as I walk through the process.

ateixeira

Start as soon as you can.

I tracked prices starting in January, and only bought my van in May. I watched the rebates disappear, then appear, then increase slowly, and finally bit when I felt the price was right.

I tracked prices on fitzmall.com, they're a no-haggle dealer in MD so they're a good reference for the "market price", IMO.

The model I was shopping went up and down by as much as $1500 over the 5 months I tracked it. Luckily I paid the lowest price during that period.

dirkg

On the XLE all of the Extra Value Option Packages incude leather.
XLE Extra Value Package #1 includes second and third row sunshades, leather trimmed seats and multi-level heated front seats and the invoice price is $527

jasilby

dirkg,
Thank you for the info. Am I wrong though, I thought those packages only had the "leather trim" along with vinyl and not all leather. I was thinking there was an upgrade for actual Leather all the way around. Maybe I am wrong though. Appreciate the info. either way.

dirkg

Thats a good question, and I'm not sure, I didn't end up buying leather, I got an LE. I also don't see any leather option listed on Edmunds other than "leather trim". From what I recall from looking at the Toyota brochures/books, I don't recall anything listed other than "leather trim" either. Maybe they don't offer full leather, or maybe "leather trim" is full leather and it's just an odd way of saying it. But it looked like everything was leather in an XLE I test drove. I heard that the Honda van has fake leather on the third row seats but real on the first and second row.

joec8

Hello all,

Newbie here on a time crunch. I am about to purchase an '07 Sienna XLE. It has package 1, leather, mud guards and running boards, also some Extra Mile Option Package A. Now, the MSRP shows $34414.00.

What would be a good price to negotiate down to? I can find the MSRP which is $30125, but how much are options worth? It's difficult pricing these things out because there are all these SV packages which create more combinations that say the Odyssey.

ANy help would be greatly appreciated!

JC

mommyjan

It's my understanding that leather is only offered in the XLE and Limited.

mommyjan

FYI - I had the same problem with my dealer when it came down to invoice price. They had it at 600 above what Edmunds listed it as. They tried to show me it on a spreadsheet - YEAH, like that's REAL!

I think it just comes down to sticking with your guns.

jasilby

I found out today from a sales mgr. that the Leather option is actually "leather trim". There's no other option for real leather all around, it's just the leather/plether combo. and that's that.

nastacio

I just bought an 08' Sienna XLE + Package #3 (leather and dvd) at invoice + 2% - Toyota rebate ($750 until the end of the month) .

For an 07 I would negotiate from "invoice - $2000" and aim for "invoice -$1500".
$30000 would be my target.

Invoice for options is usually 80% of their listing price.

nastacio

The infamous SET fee (for Southeast states) is $750 but is already factored into the invoice price.

I trust Edmunds invoice information over a salesperson any day.

joec8

Nastacio,

Thanks so much for your advice. This is an elementary question, but isn't invoice like their bottom line, near break-even price? SO if I go invoice-2000, won't they be in the red--or am I missing something here. I mentioned to them something like $31000 and they almost deemed that untouchable, but we'll 'work with you' type of start.

So for your '08 was is around 33k ballpark, applying your formula?

Thanks,

JC

joec8

Quick question.

You say the Invoice of XLE Package #1 is only $527, but the MSRP on my sheet says $2070. Is it THAT marked up?

I am trying to bid on a 2007 XLE with this package and am getting advice for how much would be a fair price. So far, I've gotten $30k. (MSRP says 34+)

JC

bigguyjones200

Who is offering the best price on extended warranties for the Sienna XLE AWD?

I am getting letters/postcards in the mail and calls from multiple organizations offering extended warranties. Has anyone bought one before from United Warranty Wholesalers or Warranty Activation Headquaters?

I have read that Warranty Direct also offers them?

Lastly, can any dealer sell it - even if you didnt buy the car from them? Which dealer do you reccomend?

Thanks in advance.

bearcrkrd

Hi. My first reaction was to not reply. Since nobody else did, here goes...
Yes, any Toyota Dealer can sell them. That's your best bet, but other responses may be better advice, so hope you get some more.
In the Seattle area we just had a TV news story 'Consumer Beware' type, about the cards you get in the mail about Extended Warranties. They pretty much said Run, don't walk, away from them.
My personal opinion, for what it's worth, is pretty negative. If you are going to get one, get it from a Toyota dealership only. If you drive less than 30,000 miles a year, why bother? The reason to buy a Toyota is because you do not need an extended warranty. That is speaking for Me, not telling anyone else what to do. Last time in the finance office they didn't even bother with me, except to try to sell me prepaid oil changes, lumped along with I think the 5, 10, and 15,000 mile service for some $$$ amount. I always turn everything down. Toyota must keep notes. Every new purchase, they try less and less with me. My 2001 Camry had 60,000 miles on it when I sold it to my Sister (gave away, actually..)
My 2001 Tacoma, little dinky base model, manual tranny, two speakers, etc., had 78,000
2005 Tacoma reg cab, 4 cyl auto tranny, base model, 4,000 miles
and 2005 Tacoma extra cab SR5 4cyl auto tranny had 49,000 miles.
All I had to do except oil change, air filter, was Tires, and took the '01 Camry in for an annoying glove box rattle. The only real work was a Toyota dealership found during an oil change that both rear shocks on the little '01 Tacoma were leaking. That was at 35,750 miles. I went to the dealership where I bought it, and they replaced them for free, under the 36,000 warranty. That's it!!
I have a 2006 Sienna now, with 23,500 miles. Nothing but oil changes. One air filter which they didn't want to put on, but I insisted. No Brake jobs on Any of the vehicles. I did change the spark plugs on the Camry (super easy!) and drain/refill the coolant on the '01 Tacoma. Also easy!
Warranties are for Mercedes, Rolls Royce, etc... in my negative opinion!

dirkg

Where are you getting your numbers? Edmunds says the XLE package one has an Invoice of $527 and a MSRP of $585, not $2070. The MSRP of a XLE FWD with package one is $30,795, not $34,000. Try starting at the link below and follow it through.

link to edmunds sienna prices

njsienna

I am looking to LEASE a XLE Limited AWD with backup camera etc...

Please post your leasing experience.

Thanks

kyfdx

Hi, njsienna..

You are welcome to ask for feedback here, but we have a specific discussion for leases..

Toyota Sienna Lease Questions

regards,
kyfdx

joec8

Some inventory sheet the dealer printed out for me 'said so'. I decided to stop dealing with that dealer because I felt they were not straight forward with me.

Thanks,

JC

sunnyvali

Finally got the deal I was wishing for from the dealer. I had the '04 VW Touareg to trade-in and no one was willing to give me what I thought it was worth. Anyway, the dealer in Naperville, IL gave me the most value for the trade-in, $2100 over Carmax!

Here is the breakdown of my Salsa Red XLE Limited - $36,067.00 plus tax, title, lic, CRV, and doc fee.

XLE Limited w/ options FE-emissions, GV-XLE Limited base model comb, HZ-Laser Cruise/HID headlamps, QL-XLE package #2, RM-daytime running lamps, TH-power third row seat, and CF-floor mats.

biffster

In the SF Bay Area, paid $250 over invoice for a located Limited AWD with EVP #2 and HID/Laser + Towing and mats (and pearlescent paint).

Called fleet managers around the Bay Area, and the best bottom-line deal I could find over the phone was at Capitol Toyota for $250 over invoice. All other dealers were $500-600 over. I called Toyota 101 in Redwood City and had them match the $250 over, but locate the specific car from another dealer. Within 2 days we had it. Painless! They made plenty of money, too.

ccc88

hello,
Is the invoice price that the dealer refer to is the same as KBB or Edmund's number?
thanks..

richieh

Got an offer for $34,299 for an XLE, FWD Ltd
Options: Package 2 and Laser-HID.

Any thoughts?

Sounds like a good offer to me..................................

biffster

The Edmunds invoice does not include local advertising, which if I recall correctly is about $700 (I don't have my numbers in front of me). However, the dealer's invoice printout will have this all itemized. Good luck!

nastacio

Even when you pay invoice, the dealer can still make money on manufacturer's rebates and on the holdback charge (2-3% of the vehicle's value.) For the Sienna 07', I believe there is a $1500 manufacturer's rebate, which means the dealer could sell it to you for invoice-1500 and still make 3% of 30K=$900 on the sale.

Some dealers also get bonuses for large volumes.

I paid $32543 with all taxes and fees, which included $500 to bring one in the color we wanted from another state. I actually got an offer for $31800 on a model with a different color (already on their lot.)

Invoice - $1500 on a 07' is not stellar for the dealer, but this model is at the end of its life and they need to offload those pretty quickly before the year is over.

madhul

Here is the price I paid for Sienna 2008 LE, in Austin ,TX. Hope it would be useful for others:
Total $25,712 (before tax).
This includes the options:
AL (Alloy wheel)
QF EVP package #2 (power sliding door on both sides)
RL (daytime Running lights...)
CN Cargo Net
CF (carpet mat)
S6 (security System Upgrade)
PV (glass etch)
I2 (texas state inspection)

Basically I got $2500 discount on the MSRP, bringing it to about $200 less than invoice.

minivanowner

Hi Madhul, I am also shopping for an LE. Which Austin dealer your got your minivan from?

madhul

Classic Round Rock.

caravan2

Is there still $1500 rebate on Siennas?

hause7

Would you buy from an Auto Broker?

caravan2

Hello,

Toyota web site have Sienna rebate up to $2185 for XLE EVP and above. Is this available everywhere or certain areas?

Thanks,

caravan2

Hello,

Has anyone purchased XLE cloth? Ideally I would like, TO,LF WO, SR, AW.

I prefer cloth. If I had to go to leather, which option is closest? Some of the features in SR option, are not available in any of the packages. :mad:

I called dealer here and he said he could not find any with SR option in OH,TN,MI,KY region. And could not be ordered.

SR Sunroof & Power Driver's Seat w/Memory
Includes auto-dimming power exterior mirrors, power retraction, puddle lamps and turn signals, auto-dimming interior rearview mirror, 8-way power driver's seat, 4-way power passenger seat, memory for exterior mirrors and driver's seat and power tilt/slide glass moonroof with sunshade.

WO Rear Clearance Sonar
TO Tow Prep Package
Includes 3500-lb towing capacity with heavy-duty radiator, heavy-duty fan, 150-amp alternator and power steering oil cooler

LF Fog Lamps & DRL
Includes front fog lamps, daytime running lights and windshield de-icer.
AW 17" Alloy Wheels
Includes 17" x 6.5" 7-spoke aluminum alloy wheels and P225/60R17 all season tires.LF Fog Lamps & DRL
Includes front fog lamps, daytime running lights and windshield de-icer.
AW 17" Alloy Wheels
Includes 17" x 6.5" 7-spoke aluminum alloy wheels and P225/60R17 all season tires.

pgrunner

I'm in SoCal shopping for the '08 CE (8 seats). What should it go for (assuming TTL would be additional ~9%)? I can hit up San Diego and LA area. Tried to search through the posts but didn't find much for this model. I would really appreciate some input. Please share if you have recent experiences in this area.

Thanks!

rmoss

This doesn't seem to be a rebate, they mention its cost savings of 2185 for XLE EVP#4 compared to the 2007 model.

There is a $1000 rebate on the Sienna in california. I got an offer of 31,490 for 2008 XLE FWD with EVP#4 (incl Dest). Is this a good deal?

caravan2

You're correct. I read it again... Thanks,