2015 BMW 4-Series Lease Questions

kyfdx

zaid918 said:

Thanks! Is this to push out the 15s? When would you expect the residuals for the 2016s to improve to 63%?

Yes.. the high residuals on the 2015 models are incentives to move them out of inventory..

I'd expect the same thing next summer for the 2016 models.

koljan26

Numbers for 2015 428i 36/15 please.Also,it looks like there are no incentives offered for the coupe during this month,right?

Michaell

koljan26 said:

Numbers for 2015 428i 36/15 please.Also,it looks like there are no incentives offered for the coupe during this month,right?

2015 428i Coupe 36/15 - .00134 and 58%. $500 option credit this month.

koljan26

Michaell said:

koljan26 said:

Numbers for 2015 428i 36/15 please.Also,it looks like there are no incentives offered for the coupe during this month,right?

2015 428i Coupe 36/15 - .00134 and 58%. $500 option credit this month.

Why can't I find any 4-series offers on BMW website?
Thanks!

muffinflavored

Michaell said:

muffinflavored said:

hey @kyfdx and @Michaell
sorry to bother you guys
do you have sweet spot M3/M4 numbers? I know the month is changing. last month would be fine. shouldn't be too different.
thanks you guys so much for all that you do!

M3 - .00134 and 60% for 36/15. $1500 buildout cash
M4 - .00134 and 58% for 36/15. $500 buildout cash

Holy shi*t that is attractive. That's 63% @ 36 months, 10k miles on the M3? Do you think it will get any better than that?

kyfdx

muffinflavored said:

Michaell said:

muffinflavored said:

hey @kyfdx and @Michaell
sorry to bother you guys
do you have sweet spot M3/M4 numbers? I know the month is changing. last month would be fine. shouldn't be too different.
thanks you guys so much for all that you do!

M3 - .00134 and 60% for 36/15. $1500 buildout cash
M4 - .00134 and 58% for 36/15. $500 buildout cash

Holy shi*t that is attractive. That's 63% @ 36 months, 10k miles on the M3? Do you think it will get any better than that?

Nope

csnyder335i

Can I have the MF and residual for 36/10 on 428 GC and 435 GC?  2016 model.   Thanks

Michaell

csnyder335i said:

Can I have the MF and residual for 36/10 on 428 GC and 435 GC?  2016 model.   Thanks

.00134 and 58%. $1000 buildout credit.

2015a3tdi

Can I have the lease numbers on a 2015 435i coupe, 10k miles, 36 months? is it 61%, .00134 mf? is there any cash incentive? thx.

Michaell

2015a3tdi said:

Can I have the lease numbers on a 2015 435i coupe, 10k miles, 36 months? is it 61%, .00134 mf? is there any cash incentive? thx.

I confirm .00134 and 61% for 36/10 on the 435i coupe. $500 buildout credit this month.

csnyder335i

kyfdx said:

Thanks! Is this to push out the 15s? When would you expect the residuals for the 2016s to improve to 63%?

Yes.. the high residuals on the 2015 models are incentives to move them out of inventory.. I'd expect the same thing next summer for the 2016 models.

Do you expect the residuals to go up in Nov?   

Michaell

csnyder335i said:

kyfdx said:

zaid918 said:

Thanks! Is this to push out the 15s? When would you expect the residuals for the 2016s to improve to 63%?

Yes.. the high residuals on the 2015 models are incentives to move them out of inventory..

I'd expect the same thing next summer for the 2016 models.

Do you expect the residuals to go up in Nov?   

Anything is possible, but we won't know until November....

tomvu1606

What is the number for 36/12k 428i Coupe?

kyfdx

tomvu1606 said:

What is the number for 36/12k 428i Coupe?

.00134 MF and 60% residual. $500 buildout credit

rafikt

Hi All, I am in the process to leasing a new 2015 BMW 428XI Coupe and I want to share the numbers with you to get your opinion

MSRP: 53000
Selling price: 49000 (I think he's working on lowering it)
15k miles per year, MSD 3850 (Refundable at lease end) 1754 Tax, 925 Aqu fee (which I think is too high), 260 DMV, 350 doc fee (again too high) 113 tax on fees, and 1st month payment 550 which I think they should pay it. Total out of pocket 7808 (including 3850 MSD). Monthly payment is 549

My goal to combine all those fees and taxes,1st month and all the little things here and there to 2000 plus the MSD for total out of pocket 5850 (3850 refundable later) with 550 a month.

What do you think about the deal as is and am I pushing too hard? I think there is room, It's the last 2015 they have.

Thanks in advanced for your help

Michaell

rafikt said:

Hi All, I am in the process to leasing a new 2015 BMW 428XI Coupe and I want to share the numbers with you to get your opinion

MSRP: 53000
Selling price: 49000 (I think he's working on lowering it)
15k miles per year, MSD 3850 (Refundable at lease end) 1754 Tax, 925 Aqu fee (which I think is too high), 260 DMV, 350 doc fee (again too high) 113 tax on fees, and 1st month payment 550 which I think they should pay it. Total out of pocket 7808 (including 3850 MSD). Monthly payment is 549

My goal to combine all those fees and taxes,1st month and all the little things here and there to 2000 plus the MSD for total out of pocket 5850 (3850 refundable later) with 550 a month.

What do you think about the deal as is and am I pushing too hard? I think there is room, It's the last 2015 they have.

Thanks in advanced for your help

Can't modify the acquisition fee (set by the bank); taxes are set by the government, so no relief there. The doc fee can be mitigated by negotiating a lower selling price. Not sure you can avoid the first payment as well.

Using .00085 as the MF (after MSD) and the 36/15 residual of 58%. I get a payment of $575/mo. My guess is the selling price is already lower than the $49,000 stated.

The only place to negotiate on a lease is the selling price and MF .. you're using MSD, so no room to improve there. So, get the best price you can.

zaid918

Hi - For the 2016 428I Gran Coupe, I know there is $1000 buildout credit, but I also have a fleet discount through my employer which provides 0.0002 MF reduction and $1500 lease cash. My question is, could I apply both incentives (buildout plus fleet discount in the deal? Thanks!

kyfdx

zaid918 said:

Hi - For the 2016 428I Gran Coupe, I know there is $1000 buildout credit, but I also have a fleet discount through my employer which provides 0.0002 MF reduction and $1500 lease cash. My question is, could I apply both incentives (buildout plus fleet discount in the deal? Thanks!

On the 2016, it's called an "option credit", but yes.. It's available to everyone, and your fleet deal shouldn't make any difference.

norrent

Please advise the residual and MF for 2015 435i GC for 36/12 and 36/15. Thanks!

kyfdx

norrent said:

Please advise the residual and MF for 2015 435i GC for 36/12 and 36/15. Thanks!

.00134 MF and 62%/60% residual. $1000 buildout cash

themoneyfactor

Do you have the money factor and residuals for 2015 428i convertible? 36 mos, 10K and 12K miles? Also, is there $1,500 bonus cash? Many thanks.

themoneyfactor

Meant to also inquire about the same info for the 2015 435i convertible. Money factor and residual for 36 mos, 10K/12K miles and any applicable bonus cash? Thanks again.

Michaell

themoneyfactor said:

Do you have the money factor and residuals for 2015 428i convertible? 36 mos, 10K and 12K miles? Also, is there $1,500 bonus cash? Many thanks.

themoneyfactor said:

Meant to also inquire about the same info for the 2015 435i convertible. Money factor and residual for 36 mos, 10K/12K miles and any applicable bonus cash? Thanks again.

.00134 and 60% for 36/12. $1500 lease cash.

Both models.

Add 1% for 10K

truman_r

Hello, can you please provide residual and money factor for:

428i 36 month/10,000 miles per year and 36 month/12,000 miles per year

Seattle, WA

Thanks in advance!

kyfdx

truman_r said:

Hello, can you please provide residual and money factor for:

428i 36 month/10,000 miles per year and 36 month/12,000 miles per year

Seattle, WA

Thanks in advance!

.00134 MF and 61%/60% residual. $500 buildout cash

davidsm1

 Looking at one of the local dealership website they have marked down some of the 2015 428i off the msrp. How much more could you save on the sale price? 

Michaell

davidsm1 said:

 Looking at one of the local dealership website they have marked down some of the 2015 428i off the msrp. How much more could you save on the sale price? 

Seven  percent off sticker before  incentives 

koljan26

Any info on the November numbers for the '15s yet?

kyfdx

koljan26 said:

Any info on the November numbers for the '15s yet?

Yes.. which model, term and mileage?

koljan26

kyfdx said:

Any info on the November numbers for the '15s yet?

Yes.. which model, term and mileage?

428i 36/15 
Thanks!

kyfdx

koljan26 said:

kyfdx said:

koljan26 said:

Any info on the November numbers for the '15s yet?

Yes.. which model, term and mileage?

428i 36/15 
Thanks!

.00131 MF and 56% residual. $500 buildout cash + $1000 Novemberfest adder

phill2774

does anybody know the number for 2016 428i 36 months 10k. and what is a novemberfest adder? thanks

Michaell

phill2774 said:

does anybody know the number for 2016 428i 36 months 10k. and what is a novemberfest adder? thanks

.00131 and 55%. $1000 option credit and $500 Novemberfest adder. The latter is simply an incentive you can use to lower the selling price.

ry12

Hi Michael,

I was offered the following today -

MSRP $45350, Selling price: $38850 (includes $500 buildout and $1000 Novemberfest), 36/12K, .00131MF, 58% Residual, $1005 Drive off and a MONTHLY PAYMENT: $467+TAX.

How does this look? I plan to do MSDs as well. Thank you in advance.

Michaell

ry12 said:

Hi Michael,

I was offered the following today -

MSRP $45350, Selling price: $38850 (includes $500 buildout and $1000 Novemberfest), 36/12K, .00131MF, 58% Residual, $1005 Drive off and a MONTHLY PAYMENT: $467+TAX.

How does this look? I plan to do MSDs as well. Thank you in advance.

I get $434/mo + tax with those numbers.

Ask the dealer what the net cap cost is - I suspect some of the up front fees have been added into your selling price.

sdq9284

Is there actually buildout cash + november adder on 428i xdrive gc? I can't find it listed on the BMW USA web site.

Michaell

sdq9284 said:

Is there actually buildout cash + november adder on 428i xdrive gc? I can't find it listed on the BMW USA web site.

$1000 buildout cash on 2015 4-series GC. No November adder incentive

sdq9284

OK, thanks. I'm looking at a 428i xdrive gc MSRP $52,845 (42,300 base + 10545 options). This web site was extremely accurate on options and on invoice cost (super thanks for that!). However, edmunds.com estimates the market value at close to 10% below MSRP (almost $1700 below invoice) before the $1k buildout cash. I'd like to believe that is just as accurate, but I don't know. Have market values dropped that much on these recently? Just trying to confirm, since I don't want to overspend. I believe I can get a lease at the current buy rate, so I'm trying to shoot for the best cap cost I can negotiate.

Michaell

sdq9284 said:

OK, thanks. I'm looking at a 428i xdrive gc MSRP $52,845 (42,300 base + 10545 options). This web site was extremely accurate on options and on invoice cost (super thanks for that!). However, edmunds.com estimates the market value at close to 10% below MSRP (almost $1700 below invoice) before the $1k buildout cash. I'd like to believe that is just as accurate, but I don't know. Have market values dropped that much on these recently? Just trying to confirm, since I don't want to overspend. I believe I can get a lease at the current buy rate, so I'm trying to shoot for the best cap cost I can negotiate.

I don't track selling prices, so can't help you.

Take that number to the dealer and be firm and see where it gets you.

sdq9284

Cool, thanks. Will do. If I learn anything useful, I'll post.

nickben

Hi! Can you please provide the MF and Residual for a 2015 BMW 428i Xdrive - 10K miles? Best term please. Thanks! They are telling me 59% residual and MF of .00171

kyfdx

nickben said:

Hi! Can you please provide the MF and Residual for a 2015 BMW 428i Xdrive - 10K miles? Best term please. Thanks! They are telling me 59% residual and MF of .00171

.00131 MF and 59% residual. $500 buildout cash + $1000 Novemberfest adder.

They are marking up the MF the maximum allowed.

sdq9284

Michaell said:

sdq9284 said:

I'm looking at a 428i xdrive gc MSRP $52,845 (42,300 base + 10545 options). This web site was extremely accurate on options and on invoice cost (super thanks for that!). However, edmunds.com estimates the market value at close to 10% below MSRP (almost $1700 below invoice) before the $1k buildout cash.

I don't track selling prices, so can't help you.

Take that number to the dealer and be firm and see where it gets you.

I did, and was polite but firm. Couldn't get the dealer to budge from $500 over invoice before incentives, so I'll keep looking instead.

thegrey

Hi,

here's what I'm looking at:

2015 428X convertible 12k miles/36 months. max multiple security deposits. MSRP 64195, now offered at 57400 (59350 invoice price - 1500 options credit and novemberfest adder).

assuming no cap cost reduction upfront except for fees and taxes, what do you think of 664/mo.

do the numbers make sense?
think there's room to go lower?

thank you.

Michaell

thegrey said:

Hi,

here's what I'm looking at:

2015 428X convertible 12k miles/36 months. max multiple security deposits. MSRP 64195, now offered at 57400 (59350 invoice price - 1500 options credit and novemberfest adder).

assuming no cap cost reduction upfront except for fees and taxes, what do you think of 664/mo.

do the numbers make sense?
think there's room to go lower?

thank you.

With your prices, along with the 58% 36/12 residual and .00082 MF (max MSD), I get $638/mo.

Double check the net cap cost - might be something added in there to account for the difference in payment. My guess it's the acquisition fee.

car_aholic

Hello,
Could you post current MF/Residual on a 2015 428i coupe RWD, 36/10k lease?
Thanks!

kyfdx

car_aholic said:

Hello,
Could you post current MF/Residual on a 2015 428i coupe RWD, 36/10k lease?
Thanks!

.00131 MF and 59% residual. $500 buildout cash + $1000 Novemberfest adder.

armitagemike

Can you advise the MF and Residual for the 435XI Convertible for 2015 and 2016 for both November and December? And the incentives offered on the 15' and 16" versions?

kyfdx

armitagemike said:

Can you advise the MF and Residual for the 435XI Convertible for 2015 and 2016 for both November and December? And the incentives offered on the 15' and 16" versions?

2015: .00131 MF and 56% residual. $1500 buildout cash + $1000 Novemberfest adder, for 36/15

2016: .00131 MF and 53% residual. $1000 option credit + $500 Novemberfest adder, for 39/15

armitagemike

Sorry - want 36/12 - and are Decembers numbers the same as November? Can you advise the MF and Residual for the 435XI Convertible for 2015 and 2016 for both November and December? And the incentives offered on the 15' and 16" versions?