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Although my car will not arrive at the dealership until Monday (purchased on Wednesday), they provided my another Accord (LX)to drive until then.
They have been very friendly of course and provided a no pressure environment for me. I am sure that I will return to them when I purchase my next car.
Special thanks to their Internet Team.
The quote I got is from San Leandro Honda. I was wondering if you could provide break up of other fees, like doc, tax and license.
Thanks
I had to ask them to remove it. I have found on really good products such as a Honda, extended warranties just don't pay. My philosophy is to self-insure whenever I can. MY WARANTY always covers everything, no exclusions!
John Eagle Honda is a presidents level dealership in Houston with great Internet pricing. They also provide free towing, free loaners cars, first 3 oil changes free and car wash with each service. Their customer lounge has free coffee and cappuccino, free wireless Internet access and free hot baked chocolate chip cookies ( bad for my diet).
YMMV,
MidCow
P.S. - Remebr on extened warraties three things:
(1) They have your money up front and are making interest on it. Time value of money costs you about 10% fro two(2) years.
(2) The extended warranty does not come in to play until the normal factory warranty of 3 years or 36,000 miles expires. So a 5 year 100,00 mile warranty is actually providing you a 2 year 64,000 mile extened warranty, (5-3=2 years, 100,000-36,000+ 64,000 miles)
(3) Many items are excluded from extended warranties. Read your extended warranty very, very carefully to find out exactly what is and what is not covered.
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Price-18914 (dealer said he would waive the destenation fee.)
Tax-1134.84 (6%nj)
Fees-450 nj registration
After all said and done, with the specail 2.9% payments would be 369.24 over 60 months. I have shopped around, and I think this is the best price I will recieve.
Is this true nation wide? Or just a hook?
MidCow
So, figure your purchase price to reflect that..
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Going to pick it up tomorrow. Hopefully, everything goes smoothly.
Grand Honda
05 Accord LX 4-door I4 w/ Auto: $18,200
05 Accord EX 4-door I4 w/ Auto: $19,995
05 Accord EX-L 4-door I4 w/ Auto: $21,700
05 Accord 4-door EX V6 w/ Auto: $23,750
05 Accord 4-door EX V6 w/ Auto and NAVI: $25,888
05 Accord Hybrid (non-NAVI): $27,500
Good Luck
Wayne R. Gerdes
The sales staff and financing team were great. I would highly recommend them to anyone in the region.
If you do, please do not include tax, fees, or registration. Any accessories included in your purchase price?
Do these prices include the $515 destination charge?
Am I offering too much for the car?
IS this a reasonable way to get the deal done at a fair price? I figure my time has value, so spending two weeks nickle-and-diming dealers to death would be a waste.
BTW, I am in the St Louis area, and would probably do the email thing to dealers from KC to Chicago.
Any input would be most appreciated. I will return with final figures and experience for your future reference. THANKS!
Yes, these prices include the $515 destination fee. If you look around the Accord Prices Paid forum, Grand Honda can beaten at almost every turn with some persistence. Look at King_bt’s Accord deal out of Wilde Honda in Waukesha, WI. Just another great price found in the Chicago/Milwaukee metropolitan area.
Good Luck
Wayne R. Gerdes
you said this price includes destination charge.
can you tell me the out of door price if I assume tax is 6.25%. i am really not sure is this the real price or they trying to get customers in door. Is there anyone who brought from Grand Honda?--Bye
Raj
Did you just ask Koons for a quote and they gave you a price like that? It sounds almost too simple.
Thanks,
L
The only item I know about Grand Honda here in the Chicago area is that they are the third largest seller of Honda’s so someone is buying them by the truckload
In regards to tax rates, I believe the rate in all of the collar counties is 6.5% which is where I assume you reside? In the city proper, it is even higher!
Good Luck
Wayne R. Gerdes
Took care of everything over the Internet and just picked up the car from the dealership. Pleasant experience, got 2.9% Honda Financing, no "pushing" for additional stuff.
My experience was that the small(er) city dealerships could not match quotes anywhere close to the big city (i.e. Dallas and Houston) dealerships.
As a matter of fact, 2 Central Texas dealerships could not believe the price and gave me a spiel how something had to be wrong with it.
However, doing the research on Edmunds.com helped me a great deal get the price in the range ($21.7k - $22.0k)at which I was willing to buy. The other places were about $1.5k - $1.7k higher and would not go down. Also, they were saying that at that price the dealer was losing money. Even though I think I got a better than just a decent deal, I cannot imagine that the dealer lost money on me.
Thanks to everyone posting the quotes here and helping out get the best possible deals available.
Am I offering too much for the car?
IS this a reasonable way to get the deal done at a fair price? I figure my time has value, so spending two weeks nickle-and-diming dealers to death would be a waste.
BTW, I am in the St Louis area, and would probably do the email thing to dealers from KC to Chicago.
Any input would be most appreciated. I will return with final figures and experience for your future reference. THANKS!
THANKS.
You can find the invoice of the Accord (pre-price increase) with about 5 minutes of research.
Finally, you are paying too much so why keep asking us?
Good Luck
Wayne R. Gerdes
I have purchased alot of cars and I can say this was the easiest and smoothest. I was purchasing the car for a friend in DC area who had never purchased a car before. There were no hitches in finance or anywhere else. The car was delivered as quoted(written, faxed)to the person actually buying it. The lady in the internet sales dept. was superb. I spoke with the F&I fellow and there was no pressure for ext warranties or service plans as requested. I live down South and it not very easy to purchase a car without being there. This was. I was always waiting for something to go wrong. Never did. Hat's off to Koon's Honda.
I do not know about areas other then Chicago but Honda is offering a $0 - $600 Factory to Dealer incentive for those dealerships hitting sales targets (whatever that means?) on new 05 Accord’s now. The 2.9% is still available on top of this of course.
Good Luck
Wayne R. Gerdes
Thanks!
Also, I ended up getting an excellent deal on a black Accord Coupe 6-speed with Nav.
Thanks,
MidCow
"Please let us know if you purchase the car from Open Road at the quoted price, or if you can get a local dealer to match it."
Here you have it. I took delivery of my 2005 Accord Sedan LX I-4 Automatic Tranmsmission on Saturday 3/12/05.
I used Open Road Honda's Internet quote price as my bargaining point and a local dealer (Dobbs Honda) in Arizona matched the price.
The selling price of the vehicle was:
$17,585 + 515 (destination)
That was $934 under invoice!!!
Total = $18,100 + TTL.
The dealer included pin stripe, splash guards and wheel locks at no extra charge...usually retails for about $200.
Deal went down very smootly, no presure whatsoever from the salesman.
Car runs great....BTW, I've got the payments, my wife's enjoying the new ride!!!
Thanks to everyone for your input and tips on this forum...it was very helpful.
lorryfan.
Not sure who you spoke at Goodson, but the guy I spoke with was excellent. Easy to deal, matched the price, threw in some extras to "sweeten" the deal.
Went there Saturday, spent about an hour total (test drive, credit app., etc.) and drove away.
Did you get the extended warranty? I was offered one but declined since every new Honda owner can wait until 2 yrs/24,000 mile period (of course, there is always a risk on the price going up).
CroATM
I did not get the extended warranty. Also did not get Gap insurnace and the extras they were going to add to the financing.
I am very, very pleased with the car and the delaership. Hope you like yours.
Cheers,
MidCow
P.S.- I'll be in Austin Sunday April 17 with my 2-wheel transportation. Finishing MS150, pretty good for an ole' amn.
Now if I can only get my local dealer to budge, I can save some fre qflyer miles!!
It could have been just one bad apple @ Goodson North.
I was offered those same packages as you were, but did not take any as they were adding a considerable amount to my monthly payment.
It looks from this forum that a decent deal is at $1000 below invoice. That is what you get just by emailing for quote to a few dealers.
A really good deals are at $1500 - $1800 below. Those you do need to nickel an dime the dealer, and spend some time (4-5 hours) at the dealership.
But if you are willing to pay the extra, and save some time, you should with no significant effort get about $1000 below invoice (that price would include a destination charge, excluding tax and license).
Good luck, I hope this helps.
It looks like the Phoenix dealerships are trying to hit you for invoice at best which is sad given the way Accord sales are falling off. Have you considered that great price - California based Honda dealership (Freemont IIRC) instead? I know they have offered darn good deals in the past. Check this forums posts from around Christmas of last year to find out the name of the exact dealership. With the new $600 FTD incentive, I am sure they will be willing to play ball at ~ $1,200 - $1,500 under invoice if the FTD incentive is offered in the California’s as well? Do not forget that you are guaranteed a PZEV with its much longer emissions warranty and much cleaner automobile if you take the automatic equipped Accord out of California. I believe you can pick up a PZEV out of AZ. as well but only if you can find a dealership that is willing to deal?
Yes, the 5-speed stick will achieve a bit better FE in the city but it will not help on the highway other then for a special hypermiling technique called Force-Autostop from higher speeds. You can safely perform the technique with the stick but not the Auto. Forget that for now Remember that you will eventually sell your Accord someday and a stick is a much tougher sell then the Auto let alone the fact that the Auto is a much nicer driver if you hit any kind of inner city traffic congestion. I too debate the stick/auto but when it comes down to the most relaxed driver and similar FE, the Auto wins in my book although those chasing performance (Midcow, you apply), the stick is much more lively. If the stick fits, save the initial up front cost but make sure you know the caveat’s before hand is all.
As for the NAVI, the Accord’s NAVI has an FCD (Fuel Consumption Display) with both an instantaneous and an averaging display. A few other niceties are included ;-) Although not nearly as detailed and feature rich as the Honda Hybrid’s, the Instantaneous is what you will use to improve your own FE and the Accord’s NAVI - FCD is just as good as that in the Insight or HCH for that purpose. Do not consider purchasing the NAVI just for the FCD however as you will never recover the $1,800 in fuel savings. The NAVI in the Honda/Acura’s is just so nice for everything else and the FCD in the NAVI equipped Accord (the TL’s w/ NAVI do not have the FCD for some reason?) is an added bonus that many do not even know about. I am sure you will love it.
Before I sign off for the night, RX330’s $22,200 deal for the 05 I4 based EX-L w/ Auto and NAVI was a one off special. The Honda dealership (O’Hare Honda here in Chicago) made a pricing mistake (manual instead of an auto) so he basically received the Auto for free. I do not think we will see a deal like that until the end of the year when Honda will be offering the $1,300 FTD (or more this year) incentive like they did at the end of last.
Good Luck
Wayne R. Gerdes
On the other hand, you can decide how much to offer. If you think your dealers should be selling the cars for less, then make an offer and see what happens.
We are looking for an EX sedan with a manual trans, and two local dealers offered an OTD price of invoice + tax + ttl.
My wife and I will probably go out in a few days and offer a few hundred less than that and see what happens.
They're quoting $20,944 on an auto, 4 cyl EX sedan, + TTL.
I only know what was posted in last Sunday’s Chicago Tribune. The FTD incentive of $0 - $600 depending on sales targets was for the Chicagoland area and on all Accord’s, not just the coupes according to the incentive list. I do not know if this is a nationwide incentive? Leave your name and number with the dealer and let him think about it for a while. The EX price quote you received is a very competitive one from what I have seen in this forum but that extra $600 would sure make it a deal topper ;-)
Good Luck
Wayne R. Gerdes
I little poking and proding has also turned the same result here in Phoenix AZ, the dealers are stating that the $600 dealer cash is only on the 2-doors, they say 4-doors do not apply at this time and are not offering a future outlook.
First thing to note is that all dealers in the metro area are gonna stick it to you with "dealer doc fee" of $275-$300, wich is darn steep.
Also the cheapest tax can be found in Mesa, 7.8%.
I am in the market for an LX, I dont think I could ever own an automatic car so a stick is also what I am searching for.
So far things have gone fairly smooth, called the Tempe dealer and Mesa dealer. They both put out a figure of $17,900 for a stick car over the phone with very little discussion. KBB shows invoice at $18,225 for a stick LX.
I was also quoted over the phone $18,595 for an LX auto from Tempe. KBB has invoice at $18,944.
So they are dealing out the LX cars $300 under invoice on first phone contact.
Maybe we can double up on a dealer and get a better deal, see how low they will go if offer to take 2 cars off their lot at once.