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I think PZEV was the only way my car was sold in California and in a few other states.
PZEV was not standard in most states and non-PZEV cars were $150 cheaper at retail.
I'm not aware of any performance differences. My car runs flawlessly and gas mileage ranges from 22.6 in the city to 33.2 on the highway--quite good for a 3,200 pound car with more than adequate power.....Richard
The $0 - $600 FTD incentive is not the older $500 incentive for the Accord Coupe’s but is something new I saw last weekend in the Chicago Trib’s Sunday - Auto section.
Good Luck
Wayne R. Gerdes
At the prices you are being quoted in the Mesa/Phoenix area, are you sure you are not willing to travel to NM. or CA. for a much lower price? I have seen 4-door 05 LX’s w/ Auto go out at less then $18K on both coasts and the Midwest. The I4 based EX-L w/ Auto and NAVI is available in the Chicago area for ~ $23,500 - $23,800 not including the latest round of the $0 - $600 FTD incentive.
In regards to the PZEV, it is a $150 up-charge but boy is it worth it in terms of the 150,000 mile Emissions warranty and the fact the 05 PZEV based Accord is actually cleaner emissions wise then every hybrid on the planet (Prius I and II, non-PZEV HCH, FEH, AH, and Insight) other then the PZEV based HCH which it is tied with.
Good Luck
Wayne R. Gerdes
Here in Chicago, Grand and O’Hare Honda are both willing to compete for your $’s at many hundreds to a thousand under invoice on Accord’s. Probably less now since the $0 - $600 FTD has been announced. In Milwaukee, Wilde Honda of Waukesha will do the same. If you need a link to their specific web sites, I can provide them but you can find them through Honda.com directly if you want to go that route. Given your location, I would attempt to deal through the Fremont California Honda dealership myself for the PZEV given it is much closer I saw that this Fremont California dealerships name was “Autowest” when looking at the past posts we talked about a page or two ago.
Good Luck
Wayne R. Gerdes
And Wayne, thanks for the info on Wilde.
Therefore, we learned it would take at least $200 or $300 over invoice to buy an Accord, and we figured we would offer that much for a 2005.
However, after hearing all of your experiences, we offered much less (invoice - $300 + tax + ttl) for an EX manual sedan yesterday, and, to our surprise, they accepted. That price also included wheel locks, mud flaps, pin stripes, and two additional keys (for a total of 5 keys).
At first they did not accept our price, so we left and started to get in our car. The salesman then came out and said they would accept it.
The salesman was extremely nice during the whole process, but the sales manager didn't seem to like us at all.
All of your postings probably saved us $600 or more, so THANK YOU ALL very much.
By the way, we live in Fairfax County, Virginia.
One last thing: we love the car. It is much, much nicer than our 1999 model.
Grand, Ohare, and Wilde???
According to O'Hare Honda, "nobody in the Midwest will honor Grand Honda's prices". The O'Hare internet manager told me Grand is being sued for buying damaged vehicles from Honda and selling them without notice. He told me that law requires disclosure for damage over $600, and that Grand is selling damaged cars over and under that number without notice. He further stated that one will not find a deal on an EX-L for 21,000 anywhere. Fact or fiction, who knows?
ev12
Go to Showcase Honda in Phoenix. I was going to buy from them, but a local dealer in Tucson (Dobbs Honda) beat the Phoenix dealer by $100, and also saved me from driving to Phoenix. The sales tax in Tucson is 7.6%. I bought my LX lastweek Saturday.
Showcase agreed to $18,100 including destination charge; with window tints, wheel locks and mud/splash guards at NO EXTRA cost for the 2005 Accord LX I-4 with automatic transmission.
I can give you the internet/fleet manager's name and phone number if you are interested and tell him I reffered you....
Good Luck...
By the way, we live in Fairfax County, Virginia.
One last thing: we love the car. It is much, much nicer than our 1999 model. "
congrats on the new purchase! I'm a month into my EX6 and loving it. Which dealer did you end up going with? And, if you don't mind, can you let us know how you communicated with them (email/live).
Thx!
Rich
That is interesting. RX330 had a lower quote from both O’Hare and Wilde then from Grand so he jumped on them. The O’Hare quote was a mistake however as they priced a stick and let RX330 take the Auto ;-) If you follow the prices paid here, Grand is beat on most that purchase to the lowest common price. Grand is ~ $1,000 below invoice which is seen here week after week from dealers all over the country.
As for the other items, Grand has a section listing Honda purchased automobiles from Honda auctions about every third week. I haven’t quoted those because they didn’t sound right to begin with given it is a Honda auction for brand new 03’s - 05’s? I wonder if these are the automobiles he is talking about? Grand does differentiate the new Accord’s and those purchased at the Honda auction in their weekly ads when they do run them.
Good Luck
Wayne R. Gerdes
27K miles
was paying $289 a month nothing out of pocket 36mos and 15k mi.
Leasing
Accord LX.
12K Miles yearly
$248 mo. Nothing out of pocket. Check for First mo. and out the door.
Selling Price-$19,272
Shopped DFW Honda dealers
Leased from David McDavid Frisco, Tx.
Did your offer include the $515 destination charge ? or did you get away with that as well?
Sounds like a good deal either way
I'm very close on buying my first Accord EX V6 - but each time I test drive a GLX Passat I get second thoughts about the Accord though!!
Rich, we went to Fairfax Honda. To be honest, I wasn't to thrilled with the sales manager or the F&I guy, but our salesman was absolutely wonderful.
The MSRP for the Accord EX-L sedan automatic I4 is now $25115. They went up $100 approximately a month ago. The MSRP before the increase was $25,015. You can tell which vehicle you have by the MSRP.
I'm not sure where this is coming from, but it has not been my experience at all. O'Hare is quoting 22,300 + TTL for an 05 Accord EXL and claiming that this is hundreds below invoice. That is not a very good deal. Rather rude and condescending internet manager as well. Wilde has quoted me 21,900 for the same vehicle. Assuming factory invoice is 22,100 or thereabouts, that deal is only 200 below invoice. The best quote I've seen is Grand's advertised price of 21,600 + TTL. Just where are all the fantastic deals?
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Fredvh, I criticized the internet manager for being rude and condescending (which he was), not the dealer for their price. I simply questioned where people are seeing the huge savings being published. And for your information, Carsdirect lists this vehicle at 300 less than O'Hare, and lists invoice at 21,935. Autobytel and others vary from 22,047 to 22,100 for published invoice. Are these sources unreliable? How do you define factory "invoice" price? Does it include destination? Does it vary from dealer to dealer? Do you think its right for O'Hare or anyone to call you a sucker for thinking you can buy a car under THEIR price, when you have quotes for $500 less? I am not an expert. I am only asking questions.
The way I did it was to have them deliver it to Reno. They drove it and I followed in another car from their dealership and when we got to Nevada we signed papers at a Notary Public and I drove the car back to colorado with no Calif. Taxes. THEY had to drive it to another state for me to get it with out sales tax.
Hope this helps Stacey
The only problem was that I had to get the new cars inspected in VA because each state has its own inspection laws.
My Brother-in-law just went down and paid 24,400 for a 4 without navi – I paid 700 more for the 6 and navigation .
Driving it is sweet..no noise...handles great,,,what have I been waiting for..didnt like the last two gens but love this one...when 2008 comes around it better blow me away to give this one up....Just buy the car...You wont regret it.
Doesn't the car have clear coat?
Why does it need a wax to protect it?
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
PSS--I drove (short test) the BMW 326 and Audi A4..nice cars , thought about leaing them, but I dont need a lable to impress...Pound for pound, dollar for dollar the EXL was a way better choice. I just didnt want to be like everyone else driving a Beemer...After I add the Wing and tinted windows...This will be MY car, not like everyone else's. Good Luck!!!!!!!!!
Showacase quoted me real high over the phone also on the LX, I think it was invoice or maybe even a bit over.
I have talking with both and they are both 500-600 blow invoice on an LX.
And that is over the phone, I bet there is a couple hundred more or some freebies waiting for when you walk with cash or as an easy finance qaulifier.
I am telling you, if you are dead set on an Accord we ought to try and bagain as a pair.
But my window is at the end of April.
Anyone know of a dealer in Texas selling at or below invoice?
Thanks,
CUSAFR
You can buy HondaCare from any Honda dealer - and get a nice discount from a lot of them. This place (for example) is doing
http://www.curryhondacare.com/
$1,075 for the $0 deductible 7yr,100k plan and they e-mail you a discount code to take $85 more off. There are other discount HondaCare dealers on the web, so shop around.
Dennis
I got it for $24825, and and paid $1395 for the 7/100/$0 warranty. Originally they had quoted me $24925, but I asked for $100 of the warranty and they instead took it off the car price.
I know I didn't do as well as possible ($1050) for the warranty, but I wanted to get this done and over with.
No pressure to buy any mop-n-glow, etc. In and out in about 45 minutes.
I got it at the Fremont CA dealer, and can provide details if needed. All the other bay area dealers were about a grand more.
I love the car so far! (6 hours of ownership)
I got a 2005 Accord Sedan 4 cyl EX-L automatic in Houston for $21,988 + TTL (this was 2 weeks ago). John Eagle Honda and Goodson Honda West had the best quotes and I ended up going with Goodson. Everything done on the internet, just picked up the car from the dealership. They honored everything we agreed to on the phone - in and out from the dealership within 60 minutes (included financing at 2.9%)
I hope this helps.