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Also, on another note, I have been unable to reach the internet dealer for a few days now, and I'm thinking about taking my business elsewhere.
Price: $20,002.56
Doc Fee: $45.00
License Fee: $190.00
Tire Fee: $8.75
Sales Tax: $1,553.69
OTD price: $21,800
As far as the internet dept. for Riverside Honda, as I said before, the only reason I purchased from them was price and convenience. I was not very impressed with their level of customer service. So, I am not surprised they haven't contacted you in a few days. Maybe the salesperson is on vacation, maybe the full service sales guys kicked him out (LOL).
Good luck.
So it sounds like you are getting pretty good prices. I think I could have gotten a bit lower price but overall the deal was not bad. And so far the car is great; nice power, smooth engine, nice leather seats, etc.
I can't speak to the plate holder issue.
Good luck,
Mike
Every time I glance at the front of my wife's car I think "Gee I need to order that grill".
Thanks,
Dennis
I'm familiar with Ohio weather; originally from Cleveland but have been living in San Francisco for over 30 years. I don't miss the snow at all.
Enjoy your new Accord--it's a great car!
Richard
I've been quoted $15,800, or invoice -$400, from the dealer's Internet sales manager. There's a $750 factory-to-dealer cash incentive for the '05 Accord. That plus holdback and other Honda chits make a good profit for the dealer.
I bet you could get them to cough up an extra $500 on your offer. Another local dealer has guaranteed to beat any solid "written" offer by $200.
Ask if destination is included in your price. I haven't cleared that up with my dealer yet, but when he says he can do it for $15,800, I assume that's including everything on the sticker. Sales tax looks to be 6% in Michigan. You can't sidestep TT&L that I've been able to figure out, so just tote it up.
As for resale, the VP is just not that different from an LX to rack up much difference 4 or 5 years from now, in my estimation. Others please chime in on this, I could be missing something.
Good luck in driving home a bargain, as I plan to do this weekend.
Phil K.
I paid advance for EX-L 4dr A/t (graphite pearl) today. Dealer Ed Napleton at Oak Lawn, Chicago, il. I live in indy.
Price:
$21600
$80(docs+county tax)
$1296(6% indiana)
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$23k
Dealers in indy they could only go to $22,300. I saw a $900 difference and decided to go to Chicago.
I know its not a bad deal because I have been following this forum since a while and thanks to all for giving me guidance to save money.
Good luck to all who are planning to buy. I didnt do lot of negotiating. I went with the price they gave me.
CARB Emissions Rating
Stablizer Bar
Non-variable vipers
Automatic mirrors
Black door handles
Black window trim
Power Door locks
Power window
Illuminated vanity mirrors
Electronic trunk release
No Driver seat height adjust
4 Speaker system
Something that i can live without for the price.
I recommend installing it by dropping it in from under the hood, instead of installing it externally (I got directions to do it both ways). IMO it looks cleaner and crisper.
with a beat up trade in. Some times they get you with the document fee's which
vary everywhere. I usually pay cash for the car but 1.9% is cheap money!
Take the loan and invest any balance in a cd or even a GNMA fund paying about 4.5%.
How's life with the VP? Any insights, qualms would be helpful. Is it really no power locks?
I'd like to add a rear decklid spoiler (the small one) and fog lamps, but the dealer wants twice the factory rate.
Also, as a follow up to an earlier post, Destination fee is $515 is in addition to the $15,800 price from my dealer.
Just agreed over phone on final purchase price of $19,600 OTD for an LX sedan automatic. I'm set to see the sales rep in 2 hrs for the test drive. If anyone can help within 2 hrs, here's my dilemma:
How does $19,600 OTD in Tucson compare to a $19,100 OTD quote I received from Cali? The Cali dealer is 450 miles away, so to travel up there and bring it back to Tucson would cost me $50 for one way amtrak ticket + $35 gas (full tank should be enough to make it all the way back).
So basically, I'm paying a $500 premium to buy the same car in Tucson. I wouldn't really mind the drive back, since I would rather enjoy a mini road trip, but it would put 450 miles on the car to start.
As for the paying $19,600 in Tucson, I estimate that I'm paying $250 in profit to the dealer -- given all the June incentive ($400-$750) and 3% holdback information I've seen discussed on this forum is correct. Here's what I've calculated:
$19,034 (invoice for 4dr LX auto)
- $633 (3% of MSRP)
-$400<$750 (range for June incentive)
- $299 (ridiculous doc fee in AZ)
--------->>>
$19,356<$19,733 (range of dealer's cost)
So, the bottom line I'd like to hear feedback for: Was my calculation above accurate? If yes, is $19,600 OTD a good deal from a Tucson dealer? Should I wait longer until July or August? (See, waiting really isn't a problem for me. I just absolutely want the best deal possible. But it's difficult to gauge whether asking prices will go down in the coming months. The 2006 should be coming out around Aug-Sept, right?)
Anyways, reply as soon as possible, please!!
One last thing: How much should it cost to ask for window tinting from a dealership?
The internet sales price was $21,599.00 After my trade-in, which was $8,100.00 for my 2002 Dodge Stratus ES with 24,800 miles, (in line with KBB estimate), and taxes, documentation fee, registration fees, the OTD price was $14, 249.67. Because the Accord was a demo with 5,100 miles, they extended my warranty from 3 years/36,000 miles to 4 years/60,000.
For those who are interested, I was not unhappy with the Stratus, but it's not holding it's value.
My financing was for 4 years at 2.9%. Even though the Accord is 4 cylinder, as opposed to 6 in my old Stratus, I'm not sensing any less acceleration power in the Honda. Handling is crisp and the brakes are sure-footed.
After driving around town for awhile I now understand why there are so many Hondas on the road!
Was in and out of the dealer within 90 mins, one-way-pass and all.
Spirit Honda in El Monte, nothing but good words from me about them.
However it will take CA MVD 6-8 weeks to get me my title, paid cash, so I got a 90-day temp tag here in AZ.
Thats about the only catch, if you will...
In Cali you are not getting AZ tags, which cost 340$ for the 1st year.
U want to run legal here, they have no soft spot for residents running out of state tags in AZ.
If not, tell them you are willing to give $150 for it.
If they say pay $200, then counter with $180 as a final offer.
I am having my Accord tinted next wekend by a private guy who comes to your garage. Gonna cost me $140, remember, they have to cut for 6 windows in the Accord, it has rear quarter windows, drives the price a bit
I got it for $23,500 plus fees, including those options. OTD 25,036.
Negotiation went about like this:
Them: 27
Me: "I know invoice is just over 24, and you get it for significantly less than that, so don't waste my time. 23."
Them: Manager... "You need to add destination, plus the options that are on there to invoice: 25"
Me: "23,500"
Them: "Plus 320 for the mirror?"
Me: "No, 23,500 total."
Them: Manager... "OK"
Basically I ended up over 500 below invoice (1000 below invoice including destination) with $600 or 700 list price worth of add ons included.
I think a got a pretty good deal, all thanks to the great information I got over the last few days form this board. Thanks guys.
I'm looking into aftermkt tinted windows and leather. $150 sounds good but what can I expect to pay for tinted? also what do u think of after mkt leather? and words of advice?
thanks
the dx value pkg has black door handles and window trim(as opposed to body colored handles and chrome trim). more imptly, it does have power windows(but true, no power locks). Also, no cruise control, wireless key entry,auto off headlights,reading lights, and has 2 speakers as opposed to 6. I'm missing some minor items i'm sure....
trying to decide between a dx value and a camry std or le w/ side/curtain(all camrys come w/ cruise,6 speakers, power locks/windows, audio sterring controls standard). was offered $15722 before ttl for the former. trying to see if i can get a camry std w/ auto and side/curtain for the same price(unfortunately it is mighty hard to find a std w/ side/curtain).
$17169 Sale Price
45 Doc
1334 CA Tax
171 CA DMV
9 Tire Disposal
Was only considering EX-L, but AutoNation Roseville emailed me that they were overstocked, and this weekend only were offering $2000 under invoice. As I saw used '03s going for $18K from some dealers, I thought, why not? I asked Bay Area dealers if this is a good price, and I think they thought I was lying.
Not the best ride in the world, but good, economical transportation, at a good price.
Should I wait until August or September? Thanks.
Hopefully I will be picking up my car tomorrow.
now, what's the diff btw manual and auto air? sorry if thats an ignorant question but ive been driving the same car since '93(a '90 corolla) and when u want air u just flip the switch! so i guess auto air has a thermostat?
anybody figure what the new factory to dealer incentive is? and aug is still the ETA for the new '06's??? the shady dealer i talked to told me october...when did the '05 accords come out?
thanks.
hbuy1 is wrong, only the EX V-6 and Hybrid have auto air. See the honda page here:
http://automobiles.honda.com/models/specifications_descriptions.asp?ModelName=Accord+Sedan-
Note that on the link it does not show the A/C in the VP has "air-filtration system" like the others. I would ask about it (have a dealer show you the cabin air filter on a VP, if it has one) if you want this feature. To me the power locks, and cruise, seat height adjustment would be enough to make me want the LX over the VP. I bet it will cost at trade or sell time to have a VP as well....
With auto air you set it for some temperature, say 72 degrees and the system adjusts the fan speed and blending of air to try to maintain that temp. With manual air, just just crank the fan up and down along with the temp control - you are on your own :-)
Dennis
Dennis
I don't usually see that panic mode selling at Honda dealers... Maybe if they have a leftover LX-V6 in green.. But, if you want a popular color/model, they turn them over fast enough that their won't be that many left to choose from...
You might find deals $500 lower than they are now.... but, nothing earth-shattering...
Of course, I'm sure there are exceptions..... but, I don't think you can count on a big fire-sale...
regards,
kyfdx
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Yeah air filtration is not inlcuded in the VP. I'm gonna have to research this to see whether I can manage w/o it. Wonder if my old corolla had it?
Value Package 4dr Sedan (2.4L 4cyl 5A)
MSRP Invoice
National Base Price $17,995 $16,201
Destination Charge $515 $515
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Total with Options $18,510 $16,716
..........if you can get it for $15,700 take it, but make sure you don't get it w/o AC and with the manual trans. (just joking)
Mike
Mike
Bob
They have been running from $650 to $750 to $925 to $650 this year. We don't know what it will be at the end of the model year, but like kyfdx posted I don't think you will save much more than a few hundred by waiting - and (obviously) selection goes down as the 05s sell out.
Dennis
If you mean TENDS as in NEVER then you are correct.
From an AutoWeek news item about the March incentives:
Dick Colliver, executive vice president of automotive sales for American Honda Motor Co. Inc., says the automaker prefers to cut production rather than offer expensive incentives.
"Last fall, when the New York market went flat, we adjusted inventories," Colliver says. "The dealers wanted incentives, but we don't want to get into overstocking."
Asked if Honda Division would offer consumer incentives, Colliver said: "Never."
In another news story:
Honda Motor Co. will try to reduce sales incentives in the United States by freshening the Accord and remodeling the Civic this fall.
In the current year, which started April 1, Honda expects to spend an average of $480 per vehicle, down from $610 in the previous fiscal year ended March 31. Honda wants to reduce Accord incentives to $880, from $1,050 last year, and to cut Civic incentives to $480, from $690
So it does not SOUND like the incentives will get MUCH better even at model end. They could bring back cheap loans for longer terms on top of the dealer cash as they had earlier this year - for those of us that are "non-cash" customers :-)
Dennis
I'm I just hallucinating or what, MSRP on the 2005 ex-l seem to have been slashed. Abt a wk ago it was 25,265...Edmunds is quoting 24,750 with Destnation charges.... Did I miss something?
can anybody tell us where to bid this price,? or is this price ok. (we are no getting any extra stuff) .
Brandon