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If its real, its a good deal.
By out the door do you mean tax, doc fees etc.? If so the total is 22,826. Still good?
Can I just walk into a dealership with a printout and show it to them?
A good way to tell is to compare to the TMV price or the Cars Direct price + $200 to $400 (which they will add too) for your configuration in your area.
I bought mine at Fladboe Honda in Irvine, the total OTD price for everything was $15,160. The initial internet quote was for $13,990, which was further reduced to $13,870 during the final negotiations.
Overall the car buying experience was relatively painless, and I found it better to actually negotiate with the dealer rather than relying on a car buying service like Costco or AAA.
Edmunds.com provided very good information on what to expect for prices, and if the dealer realizes your aware of such things as TMV and dealer holdback, they are less likely to hardball.
I've been quoted $19108 +tax with no fees for an Accord LX auto w/side airbags.
I'm going up to Boulder on Wednesday evening to make it mine!
You made a good deal and you're going to really like the new Accord--it's a near-luxury car for thousands of dollars less.
Drive it in good health!.......Richard
In Ventura county, CA, I was quoted $150 + tax for up to five windows. It's the same price whether you do the driver and passenger side windows or not. The darker/lighter tints all cost the same. I was charged an additional $30 to have black vinyl installed over the little black dot gradient on the rear window which I thought was a little hokey, but the final bill was still under $200 total.
The work is very nice. I noticed on cars on the lot that the dealer charges $250 for three-window treatment as an installed option (dealer chooses the tint shade, of course).
I sent out 6 faxes and one email to the internet managers. I got once response right away from one dealer pointing me toward their website (which had their no neog. prices listed) and a phone message from another asking when i could come in to talk. So much for the internet. I probably should have sent out to more dealers but the amount in the area is fairly small. I even went to some dealers websites and submitted info asking for a quote and never got any non automated response.
I ended up having to go in and play the usual salesperson games. I had to get my trade appraised anyways. Luckily with the info i got from here i knew what the going rate was and not to accept anything more.
My first good offer (for a v4 auto ex-l coupe) was $22,150 including lojack, wheel locks, mudguards, and trunk tray. Pretty good but i wasn't big on lojack. So i took this offer to most places and once i mentioned it everyone came down to it. I ended up getting a dealer to throw in other accessories i wanted rather than lojack.
I ended up purchasing a graphite coupe for $22,540 which included installed: foglights, rear wing spoiler, wheel locks, mud guards, and moon roof visor. Doc fees were $20, and License fees $43 - Trade in + Tax.
I had everything but the fog lights at $22150 but I couldn't persuade them to throw them in too.
One warning to car buyers is the varying Doc Fees. I was shown a standardized Honda purchase form that has $20 pre-printed into the Documentation Fees column. One dealer pulled out there own break down of fees instead and it was $318 for Docs, Title and License.
Thanks for the postings of prices paid and dealer strategies. I pick up the car on Friday and look forward to owning a reliable Honda for many years.
First, when are the new 2005 models supposed to be released? I am thinking that if it is around the end of August or early September, I may be able to get a good deal on a 2004. This car would hopefully be kept for several years and might eventually be handed down to my now 12 yr old son when he gets to driving age, so I'm not overly concerned about taking the depreciate hit of buying a prior model year new vehicle.
Secondly, is there any wisdom in looking for a 2004 Honda Certified 2004 EX Sedan instead of a new one? It would most certainly be less expensive than the new one and would have the 100k extended warranty included. I'm not interested in one that has more the about 10-12k miles. But if I could find one that had somewhere between 5k-10k, it would be almost new, would not have had time to miss any of it's scheduled maintenance.
Any thoughts?
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Plan to buy a EXL sedan for my wife this weekend. But she is kind of busy and wants to wait till the independent day. Shoule we wait? I heard that the end of a month or a quarter is better than other time. Thanks for your inputs.
I like to buy early in the second year of a car's cycle--the car is likely to have fewer problems after a year of production, and it's still new enough to be a compelling purchase. Also, after a year the initial excitement is gone, so dealers are likely to be more accommodating.
That same car (EX-L) seems to be selling now for about $21K to $22K before taxes, etc., so by buying this late in the year you might save $700 to $1700--not much more than that.
The '05 Accord will soon be on the 3rd year of its 5 year cycle and won't cause much excitement except for the hybrid V6 which is to be introduced this Fall. The 4 cyl. EX-L will probably cost little more than the $22.7K I paid last year and you'll have a new car for a full year plus whatever features are added to the 2005 Accord (lighted steering wheel controls for the cruise and sound system, for sure).
So, either get a REALLY good deal now or wait for the '05 Accord
....Richard
Price: $23,750 (includes the $490 transportation)
Doc Fee: 99
Subtotal:$23,849
TTL: 1,695
Final $25,544
Meanwhile, I have checked the CarsDirect website, and the current quote with them is approx $800 UNDER invoice! This includes a $300 discount if you finance with them, but either way, it seems like a great, NO HAGGLE deal.
I was wondering if it is worth putting the CarsDirect quote in the content of my e-mail when I first send out to dealers. This way, they'll hopefully know that this is my upper limit, and they'll all try to beat it, right off the bat.
Otherwise, if I don't include that CarsDirect quote in my e-mail, I am thinking that many of first quotes I get will be higher than CarsDirect. If that's the case, I could e-mail them back with the CarsDirect quote, or with the best initial offer I get, but by then I might have wasted some time and some e-mailing. I am not that rushed, but I want this to be as quick and "efficient" as possible.
What do you guys think: should I include the CarsDirect quote in my e-mail right away, because it is so low? Do you think the internet sales managers will quote me BETTER than $800 UNDER invoice, right away, without me ever mentioning that CarsDirect quote?
In case it matters, I am looking to buy in the general Los Angeles area, more or less near the San Fernando Valley. Again, EX-V6 with Navi. Thanks.
Yes, I got that same silliness from a few friends after I bought my EX-L 4 cyl. Accord.
The truth is that some people still think that all 4 cylinder engines are slow, noisy, and rough--unchanged from the days of the Pinto and Vega (horrible engines in those slugs).
The new Accord's 4 cyl. engine will change anyone's perception of how good a 4 can be, and it's smooth and plenty fast. That's why I suggest that people test drive one before rejecting it just because of the number of cylinders. There are some V6s on sale today that aren't as smooth nor powerful as the Accord's 4.
With respect to selling the car later, I've read that about 70% of Accords are sold with the 4 cylinder engine and many people might prefer a 4 cyl. in a low-maintenance used car.......Richard
In my opinion, the only people who buy V-6's are the ones who, for some reason, think they need the extra power or they just have to have the top of the line.
The fours are fantastic!
Thanks.
You may be experiencing buyer's remorse. At 200 miles you haven't had a chance to "get to know" your Camry. Forget about your bad dealer experience. That has nothing to do with the car. If you still feel this way in a year, then consider trading. Just know that anytime you trade a new car during the first three years, it is going to be expensive.
It's a good car, you could have made FAR worse choices!
Both prices are far under invoice. Financing over Memorial day was 2.9% @ 5 years. The actual promotion was for 3.9% for 5 years, but they had special holiday incentives. THESE WERE NOT ADVERTISED ANYWHERE.
Accord EX 4cy - $19,243
CR-V EX - $20,831
ALWAYS GET INTERNET QUOTES FIRST...it saves SO much time.
Add destination fee of $490.
Service contract on the Accord, 7 year @ 100k = $1200 (bit high)
They have honda care prices on the web so it is easy to compare. Their price for the same 7/75K was around $850.
I have yet to contact them to see if there is any fine print but I would think that most local dealers should match this price. I haven't decided yet whether to bother getting an extended warranty but $850 isn't a bad deal. The pricing i quoted was for 4cyl 0 deduct. 6cyl was around $50 more. $50 deduct was around $50-75 less.
I'm still waiting for the model year closeout to start (probably in mid July), then they should be offering the same deal, as they have in the past.
Honda should offer a 7/75K warranty as a standard item. If Dodge, Kia and others can do it, so should Honda. After all Honda is supposed to be very reliable.