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  • lednameledname Member Posts: 96
    edited December 2014
    I am looking for MF and RV on a 2015 Optima Limited in NC. 10K Miles. 24 and 36 month options, please.

    Thanks...happy holidays!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 236,760
    ledname said:

    I am looking for MF and RV on a 2015 Optima Limited in NC. 10K Miles. 24 and 36 month options, please.

    Thanks...happy holidays!


    12K/yr.. no 10K option on Kias

    24: .00080 MF and 56% residual. $5500 lease cash.
    30: .00140 MF and 54% residual. $5500 lease cash
    36: .00051 MF and 51% residual. $3500 lease cash.

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  • lednameledname Member Posts: 96
    Thanks! Looks like the 24 month is the way to go.
  • rjorge3rjorge3 Member Posts: 144
    Hi there, I need the the residual and MF for a 2015 SX-L (Limited) for New Jersey, 12k and 15k miles per year. 24 Months and 36 Months. The car I am looking at stickers at $36,655, if I read correctly the "lease cash" incentive, then I would get $5,500 off any negotiated price from $36,655, right?? or it would be correct to calculate my cap cost at $36,655 minus $5,500 ($31,155). I am trying to see what type of total discount off the MRSP I can get including any incentives.

    If anyone have recently leased a SXL in the Tri Area please chime in as well with what type of deal you got :>))

    Thanks in advance for the great help in all my previous leases.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 236,760
    rjorge3 said:

    Hi there, I need the the residual and MF for a 2015 SX-L (Limited) for New Jersey, 12k and 15k miles per year. 24 Months and 36 Months. The car I am looking at stickers at $36,655, if I read correctly the "lease cash" incentive, then I would get $5,500 off any negotiated price from $36,655, right?? or it would be correct to calculate my cap cost at $36,655 minus $5,500 ($31,155). I am trying to see what type of total discount off the MRSP I can get including any incentives.

    If anyone have recently leased a SXL in the Tri Area please chime in as well with what type of deal you got :>))

    Thanks in advance for the great help in all my previous leases.


    .00040 MF and 56% residual for 24mo, 12K/yr. $5500 lease cash
    .00103 MF and 54% residual for 30mo, 12K/yr. $5500 lease cash
    .00004 MF and 51% residual for 36mo, 12K/yr. $3500 lease cash.

    The lease cash is in addition to any dealer discount, though when negotiating, they are likely already including it in their offer.

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  • rjorge3rjorge3 Member Posts: 144
    Thanks K! for the info, what is the residual for 15k/yr? 36 months. One dealer indicated 49%, is that correct? This is for the 2015 Optima SXL.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,985
    rjorge3 said:

    Thanks K! for the info, what is the residual for 15k/yr? 36 months. One dealer indicated 49%, is that correct? This is for the 2015 Optima SXL.

    Subtract 2% for 15K per year.

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  • simuneksimunek Member Posts: 4
    ledname said:

    I am looking for MF and RV on a 2015 Optima Limited in NC. 10K Miles. 24 and 36 month options, please.

    Thanks...happy holidays!

    Just leased a 2015 Optima SXL for $325.00 a month for 42 mos/12k yr in FL.
    I have Teir 1 credit, so the MF was .00023 and residual was 50%
    I qualified for $800 military and grad incentives and $3,500 lease cash
    plus I had $1,300 trade allowance.

    The only other dealer that came close wanted $393/month for 30 month lease
    MF was .00121 and the residual was 54%
    Offered $1k for trade and $5,500 lease cash.
  • skippy057skippy057 Member Posts: 2
    edited December 2014
    Looking into a Optima Hybrid base with Convenience package. 12K/year for 36 month in Connecticut. Can you please give me MF & residual? I have 800+ credit. Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,985
    skippy057 said:

    Looking into a Optima Hybrid base with Convenience package. 12K/year for 36 month in Connecticut. Can you please give me MF & residual? I have 800+ credit. Thanks!

    .00047 and 51%. $3500 lease cash.

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  • hddeucehddeuce Member Posts: 18
    Any Jan MF & Residual numbers yet for SWFL on Optima LX & EX for 15000 at 36 months. Thanks in advance.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,985
    hddeuce said:

    Any Jan MF & Residual numbers yet for SWFL on Optima LX & EX for 15000 at 36 months. Thanks in advance.

    Kia numbers are valid through Monday, 1/5/15

    LX - .00071 and 53%.

    EX - .00054 and 52%

    $2500 lease cash on both.

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  • carquote1carquote1 Member Posts: 25
    Are there updated numbers for the MF and RV for S/E Texas on a Optima SXL for 24 and 36 months at 12k miles for ? Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 236,760
    carquote1 said:

    Are there updated numbers for the MF and RV for S/E Texas on a Optima SXL for 24 and 36 months at 12k miles for ? Thanks!


    Sorry, but we don't have the numbers for your region, yet, this month.

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  • carquote1carquote1 Member Posts: 25
    kyfdx said:

    carquote1 said:

    Are there updated numbers for the MF and RV for S/E Texas on a Optima SXL for 24 and 36 months at 12k miles for ? Thanks!


    Sorry, but we don't have the numbers for your region, yet, this month.
    Thanks, more specifically I'm in Houston TX. Can you please post the numbers that were valid for my region until 01/05 so I can estimate. Thanks again
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 236,760
    carquote1 said:

    kyfdx said:

    carquote1 said:

    Are there updated numbers for the MF and RV for S/E Texas on a Optima SXL for 24 and 36 months at 12k miles for ? Thanks!


    Sorry, but we don't have the numbers for your region, yet, this month.
    Thanks, more specifically I'm in Houston TX. Can you please post the numbers that were valid for my region until 01/05 so I can estimate. Thanks again

    Got em now...

    .00070 MF and 55% residual for 24mo, 12K/yr. $6000 lease cash.

    .00047 MF and 50% residual for 36mo, 12K/yr. $4000 lease cash.

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  • sns23sns23 Member Posts: 11
    Hello. Do you have MF, RV, numbers on 2015 optima hybrid LX, 36m/15k lease.
    Located in Southern California. Also current lease incentives.

    Thanks in advance

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 236,760
    sns23 said:

    Hello. Do you have MF, RV, numbers on 2015 optima hybrid LX, 36m/15k lease.
    Located in Southern California. Also current lease incentives.

    Thanks in advance


    .00110 MF and 48% residual. $4500 lease cash.

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  • sns23sns23 Member Posts: 11
    kyfdx said:

    sns23 said:

    Hello. Do you have MF, RV, numbers on 2015 optima hybrid LX, 36m/15k lease.
    Located in Southern California. Also current lease incentives.

    Thanks in advance


    .00110 MF and 48% residual. $4500 lease cash.
    Thanks. Wow such a high MF.

    What about the same numbers for a 24 month lease. Thank you in advance
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 236,760
    sns23 said:

    kyfdx said:

    sns23 said:

    Hello. Do you have MF, RV, numbers on 2015 optima hybrid LX, 36m/15k lease.
    Located in Southern California. Also current lease incentives.

    Thanks in advance


    .00110 MF and 48% residual. $4500 lease cash.
    Thanks. Wow such a high MF.

    What about the same numbers for a 24 month lease. Thank you in advance

    .00119 MF and 53% residual. $5500 lease cash

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  • dimariadimaria Member Posts: 44
    Hello again. Happy New Year to everyone!. Would you be able to provide the RV and MF for a Optima SXL (Limited) for 24 months/12k in New Jersey. I think the lease cash is $6000. Thanks
  • dimariadimaria Member Posts: 44
    Sorry. Can you also provide the RV and MF for a Optima SXL (Limited) for 30 months/12k in New Jersey. I think the lease cash is also $6000 for 30 months. Thanks
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,985
    dimaria said:

    Hello again. Happy New Year to everyone!. Would you be able to provide the RV and MF for a Optima SXL (Limited) for 24 months/12k in New Jersey. I think the lease cash is $6000. Thanks

    dimaria said:

    Sorry. Can you also provide the RV and MF for a Optima SXL (Limited) for 30 months/12k in New Jersey. I think the lease cash is also $6000 for 30 months. Thanks

    Unfortunately, we don't have any Kia numbers for NJ for January ... yet.

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  • jdu14jdu14 Member Posts: 17
    Can you provide MF, RV, and lease cash on a 2015 Optima SXL 12k for 36 months. I'm in San Diego, CA.
    Thank you.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 236,760
    jdu14 said:

    Can you provide MF, RV, and lease cash on a 2015 Optima SXL 12k for 36 months. I'm in San Diego, CA.
    Thank you.

    .00027 MF and 50% residual. $4000 lease cash.

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  • vitamins85vitamins85 Member Posts: 3
    Hi can you please provide the MF, Residual and Lease Cash for a 2015 Kia Optima SX Turbo in NJ?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 236,760

    Hi can you please provide the MF, Residual and Lease Cash for a 2015 Kia Optima SX Turbo in NJ?


    Kia has a different program for CT, NY and NJ. We don't have that program, but I'll give you the next best one, which may or may not be the same. (I think it's likely to be the same or very similar).

    .00071 MF and 52% residual for 36mo, 12K/yr. $3500 lease cash.

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  • vitamins85vitamins85 Member Posts: 3
    Thanks I'll use that as my benchmark at the dealership.
  • rocketman18rocketman18 Member Posts: 43
    Can you post the MF and Residuals for LX 36/10 2015? in NJ but the next best will do....Thank You
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,985

    Can you post the MF and Residuals for LX 36/10 2015? in NJ but the next best will do....Thank You

    No 10K programs for Kia ... 36/12 numbers below for the region we think is closest to the numbers you'll find in NJ:

    .00052 and 54%. $2500 lease cash.

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  • integritasintegritas Member Posts: 5
    edited January 2015
    Please would you advise the MF, Residuals, & Lease-Cash for 2015 SX-Turbo 36/12 for SoCal area. (Time to go meet w/dealer. FYI: Kia Finance offered: waive last 3 payments of existing lease & waive $400 disposition fee.) Thank you!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 236,760

    Please would you advise the MF, Residuals, & Lease-Cash for 2015 SX-Turbo 36/12 for SoCal area. (Time to go meet w/dealer. FYI: Kia Finance offered: waive last 3 payments of existing lease & waive $400 disposition fee.) Thank you!


    .00071 MF and 52% residual. $3500 lease cash

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  • cartunescartunes Member Posts: 6
    Can someone tell me if this is a good deal in CA or if I should pass? And also if I am putting too much down?
    MSRP $30855
    Optima EX with Tech Package
    -3000 down
    -24 month lease
    -15,000 miles a year
    -$250 per month tax included

    Thanks
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,985
    cartunes said:

    Can someone tell me if this is a good deal in CA or if I should pass? And also if I am putting too much down?
    MSRP $30855
    Optima EX with Tech Package
    -3000 down
    -24 month lease
    -15,000 miles a year
    -$250 per month tax included

    Thanks

    What is the selling price? What is the breakdown of the $3000 - how much is cap cost reduction and how much is going to taxes and fees?

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  • cartunescartunes Member Posts: 6
    Michaell said:

    cartunes said:

    Can someone tell me if this is a good deal in CA or if I should pass? And also if I am putting too much down?
    MSRP $30855
    Optima EX with Tech Package
    -3000 down
    -24 month lease
    -15,000 miles a year
    -$250 per month tax included

    Thanks

    What is the selling price? What is the breakdown of the $3000 - how much is cap cost reduction and how much is going to taxes and fees?
    - Selling price is $27469 + $595 acquisition fee
    - Gross Cap is 28064
    - 4000 rebate
    - money factor .00082
    - 56% residual
    - cap cost reduction is $5817.29
    - my monthly is actually $259.95
    - residual $17301

    Thanks
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,985
    cartunes said:

    Michaell said:

    cartunes said:

    Can someone tell me if this is a good deal in CA or if I should pass? And also if I am putting too much down?
    MSRP $30855
    Optima EX with Tech Package
    -3000 down
    -24 month lease
    -15,000 miles a year
    -$250 per month tax included

    Thanks

    What is the selling price? What is the breakdown of the $3000 - how much is cap cost reduction and how much is going to taxes and fees?
    - Selling price is $27469 + $595 acquisition fee
    - Gross Cap is 28064
    - 4000 rebate
    - money factor .00082
    - 56% residual
    - cap cost reduction is $5817.29
    - my monthly is actually $259.95
    - residual $17301

    Thanks
    Using the base MF of .00082 and the 24/15 residual of 56%, I get a pre-tax payment of $336.77. My guess is that there is more cap cost reduction over and above the $1800 and change (I assume that $4000 of the $5800 is the lease cash). $1800 over 24 months is $75/mo, which brings down the pre-tax payment to $261.xx. If your $260/mo includes tax, somethign doesn't quite add up.

    Ask them for the net cap cost and how they get to that number.

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  • cartunescartunes Member Posts: 6
    Is the "net cap cost and how they get to that number" the only information you need or is there anything else I should ask to clarify everything?

    Thank you
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,985
    cartunes said:

    Is the "net cap cost and how they get to that number" the only information you need or is there anything else I should ask to clarify everything?

    Thank you

    Yes - the net cap cost is the selling price plus any fees / taxes that are added into the lease, minus any down payment.

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  • cartunescartunes Member Posts: 6
    Here we go
    - gross cap cost $28064 includes $595 acquisition fee
    - adjusted cap cost $22,246
    - depreciation/amortized amount $4945
    - rent charge $778
    - base of monthly payments $5723
    - cap cost reduction $5817
    - residual $17301
    - $259 a month with tax included

    Thanks
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 236,760
    cartunes said:

    Here we go
    - gross cap cost $28064 includes $595 acquisition fee
    - adjusted cap cost $22,246
    - depreciation/amortized amount $4945
    - rent charge $778
    - base of monthly payments $5723
    - cap cost reduction $5817
    - residual $17301
    - $259 a month with tax included

    Thanks

    I get $239/mo.+tax... so, looks pretty good..

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  • cartunescartunes Member Posts: 6
    @ kyfdx and michaell Is this a good deal?

    Thank you
  • mkrvmkrv Member Posts: 5
    I'm in NY area, looking for a fully loaded 2015 Kia Optima SXL Turbo with Ultimate Package.
    I believe this is the complete info... hoping someone can help decipher and confirm if good deal or not...

    $0 Down Lease
    36 mo./12k mi.

    MSRP $36,355
    Cap Cost $32,698
    Residual $18,541
    MF 0.0004
    Rebate $3,500 +$1,045 (total discount = $4,545)

    Acquisition $595
    Admin $289
    Tax $1,528
    Doc $75
    NYS Tire $12.5
    Inspection $10
    Gas $54.31 (not sure what this is...)
    All above will be paid upfront (not amortized into monthly lease)

    Total upfront $2,563.81
    Monthly payment $370.59

    Does this seem high?

    Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,985
    mkrv said:

    I'm in NY area, looking for a fully loaded 2015 Kia Optima SXL Turbo with Ultimate Package.
    I believe this is the complete info... hoping someone can help decipher and confirm if good deal or not...

    $0 Down Lease
    36 mo./12k mi.

    MSRP $36,355
    Cap Cost $32,698
    Residual $18,541
    MF 0.0004
    Rebate $3,500 +$1,045 (total discount = $4,545)

    Acquisition $595
    Admin $289
    Tax $1,528
    Doc $75
    NYS Tire $12.5
    Inspection $10
    Gas $54.31 (not sure what this is...)
    All above will be paid upfront (not amortized into monthly lease)

    Total upfront $2,563.81
    Monthly payment $370.59

    Does this seem high?

    Thanks!

    If anything, it seems low (!).

    Using the numbers exactly as you've provided them, I get $413.74. If I change the MF to .00004 (4 zeros), the payment drops to $395.30. So, looks pretty good from where I'm sitting.

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  • ny_sxny_sx Member Posts: 139
    Hello - I'm in NY, too, and trying to confirm MKRV's numbers from the previous post. My '12 Optima SX, which is leased through KMF, comes off lease in April so I can wait a month or two, if needed. [I am also considering a '14 Cadenza SX Limited if I seem familiar.] What are the numbers for the '15 Optima SXL? I am looking for around 36 months, 12K/yr since that is the minimum Kia offers and will travel for a good deal.

    Thanks, in advance!
  • ny_sxny_sx Member Posts: 139
    mkrv said:

    I'm in NY area, looking for a fully loaded 2015 Kia Optima SXL Turbo with Ultimate Package.
    I believe this is the complete info... hoping someone can help decipher and confirm if good deal or not...

    $0 Down Lease
    36 mo./12k mi.

    MSRP $36,355
    Cap Cost $32,698
    Residual $18,541
    MF 0.0004
    Rebate $3,500 +$1,045 (total discount = $4,545)

    Acquisition $595
    Admin $289
    Tax $1,528
    Doc $75
    NYS Tire $12.5
    Inspection $10
    Gas $54.31 (not sure what this is...)
    All above will be paid upfront (not amortized into monthly lease)

    Total upfront $2,563.81
    Monthly payment $370.59

    Does this seem high?

    Thanks!

    MKRV - how did you come to a rebate of $3500 plus $1045 and was that deducted from the cap cost?
  • mkrvmkrv Member Posts: 5
    The $3,500 in rebates/incentives is what's currently available through Kia. You can find it on this site by searching for your model.

    My dealer is saying he'll up the rebate to $4k (in addition to $1,045 off), to get me into this car.
    His final offer is $354/mo, $2,563 drive-off.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,985
    ny_sx said:

    Hello - I'm in NY, too, and trying to confirm MKRV's numbers from the previous post. My '12 Optima SX, which is leased through KMF, comes off lease in April so I can wait a month or two, if needed. [I am also considering a '14 Cadenza SX Limited if I seem familiar.] What are the numbers for the '15 Optima SXL? I am looking for around 36 months, 12K/yr since that is the minimum Kia offers and will travel for a good deal.

    Thanks, in advance!

    .00027 and 50%. $4000 lease cash this month.

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  • mkrvmkrv Member Posts: 5
    Michaell - thanks for confirming the good deal!
    This dealer quoted .00007 MF and with $5k+ in discounts/rebates, that's how he got to $354/mo.
  • ny_sxny_sx Member Posts: 139
    thank you, too, Michaell. so the $4000 dealer cash, is that separate from the $1500 Kia Optima Customer Cash and the loyalty, if available? i know that there is always money from the manufacturer to the dealer that we do our best to get, so i am confused as to which is which.

    also, please correct me if i'm wrong, but the best way to calculate a lease is to negotiate selling price, which is as close to dealer invoice as you can get, minus all rebates/incentives/discounts to get to the cap cost, isn't it? or, should rebates/incentives/discounts be considered a down payment? does it matter?

    i try to put down as little as possible [maybe DMV fees upfront] and work everything else in to the monthly lease payment to make the dealer to dealer price easier to keep negotiate and keep track of as i shop.

    i am finding this really helpful [scary since i have leased like a dozen cars already] and i really appreciate all of your help and input.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,985
    ny_sx said:

    thank you, too, Michaell. so the $4000 dealer cash, is that separate from the $1500 Kia Optima Customer Cash and the loyalty, if available? i know that there is always money from the manufacturer to the dealer that we do our best to get, so i am confused as to which is which.

    also, please correct me if i'm wrong, but the best way to calculate a lease is to negotiate selling price, which is as close to dealer invoice as you can get, minus all rebates/incentives/discounts to get to the cap cost, isn't it? or, should rebates/incentives/discounts be considered a down payment? does it matter?

    i try to put down as little as possible [maybe DMV fees upfront] and work everything else in to the monthly lease payment to make the dealer to dealer price easier to keep negotiate and keep track of as i shop.

    i am finding this really helpful [scary since i have leased like a dozen cars already] and i really appreciate all of your help and input.

    The lease cash is factory to dealer; the dealer can choose to pass it along to the consumer. You, of course, want it all.

    Yes, negotiate your best selling price then subtract any available incentive money from it. Alternatively, you can use some of that lease cash to cover your up front costs such as acquisition fee, title/license/tags, etc.

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