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Entry Level Luxury Performance Sedans



  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 22,842
    actually, that would be the cannonball run 2. ;b

    '17 F150 Crew 2.7; '67 Coronet R/T; '14 Town&Country Limited; '09 LR2 HSE. 44-car history and counting!

  • fedlawmanfedlawman Posts: 3,118
    Oh well, I guess I'm not the Cannonball Run fan that you guys are...
  • plektoplekto Posts: 3,738
    There still IS the real Cannonbal Run. - 104

    Should be interesting to watch.

    There's also a more recent One Lap of America race as well.
  • laurasdadalaurasdada Posts: 3,128
    Nah, at the time more of a Farrah Fawcett fan... Still didn't buy a Mustang 2, though!

    Remember the tag line for the Mustang 2? "Mustang 2, Boredom 0." My friend's father worked for J. Walter Thompson and he claimed his father created that tag. He's probably still apologizing! ;)

    '13 Jaguar XF, possibly my favorite of all the cars I've owned. But, my '09 Jag XK was a beauty, as was my '05 Acura TL, '88 Acura Integra, '84 Mitsubishi Mirage Turbo & '78 VW Scirocco (my first!). And, of course, the '92 Nissan Sentra SE-R and '95 Saab 900s I bought for the ex... Ok, I like a lot of the cars in my life.

  • fedlawmanfedlawman Posts: 3,118
    Coincidently, back in 1991, Gunther's VW repair shop was in Redondo Beach, CA, just around the corner from the Portofino Hotel - where my wife (girlfriend at the time) used to work as a cocktail waitress.

    And so the circle closes.
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Posts: 3,118
    Farah 2, Mustang 0.
  • kdshapirokdshapiro Posts: 5,751
    It was a tragic, deadly day, an accident involving a CTS was widely reported on. What made this particularly heart wrenching was the CTS caught on fire. While Cadillac may take over the world with their horsepower and B&O stereo, this type of unfortunate thing just re-enforces my thinking about American made products and why I want to (and I do) buy Japanese and German.
  • I've seen BMWs on the side of the road burning. Shrug. Happens to all cars.
  • mz6greyghostmz6greyghost Posts: 1,230
    Oh no! A CTS catching fire? This without question deems American iron inferior to just about everything else out there, doesn't it? Right...

    I'm with blueguy, I've seen a Mercedes burn to the ground, as well as a VW. I've also seen not one but TWO Toyotas catch fire as well.

    Let's get real. Accidents including fires happens to EVERY type of automobile, no matter where it's from.
  • joe131joe131 Posts: 996
    Well, I'm convinced.
    I'll never buy or even ride in another american car. Or even walk by one in someone's driveway.
    I don't want to burn to death.
    Call me paranoid if you want.
    I ain't dumb. Burning hurts.
  • frisconickfrisconick Posts: 1,275
    American cars are just not up to Japanese cars in a lot of respects. The only American car I mightt consider is vette. :shades:
  • oldcemoldcem Posts: 309
    Have to admit - My Boss's Honda Accord burning on the side of the road did look a lot more dignified than an American car would have.

  • puckspucks Posts: 47
    This could be the most unintelligent statement in world history. Please enlighten us, your holiness, with why Japanese and German cars will never catch fire.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 11,697
    about catching fire, I can tell you that the paint on Cadilacs is awful. There is a CTS (Dark grey) and and STS (light blue) that park in the garage near where I work. The orange peel effect is completely unacceptable on cars that sticker for what these 2 vehicles do. The paint on my '01 Prelude is far superior (And I wash my car once every 2 months if I'm lucky).

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2015 Infiniti Q40 AWD, 2017 Honda Pilot Touring AWD

  • joe131joe131 Posts: 996
    Columns are price, 0-60 time in seconds, 1/4 mile time, top speed, braking 70-0, lateral acceleration skidpad, EPA city mpg

    Here are some figures:

    price 0-60 1/4 mi top 70-0 skid city

    $28,555.00 5.4 14.0 149 155 0.87 20
    $34,620.00 5.3 14.0 137 177 0.87 20
    $45,720.00 4.9 13.6 144 160 0.87 19
    $36,000.00 5.2 13.9 158 160 0.87 16
    $35,565.00 5.6 14.2 145 169 0.78 17
    $54,720.00 6.9 15.3 150 176 0.82 19
    $40,000.00 5.1 13.7 142 167 0.85 19

    Can you guess what cars 1 through 7 are?
  • nkeennkeen SE PennaPosts: 313
    I've and driven many GM cars, and have liked them all. Never let me down apart from a thermostat and water pump, including one lowly Cavalier with 100+ miles with a clutch showing no wear. I tried to like the one Japanese car I've owned, but just couldn't. My VW GTi was as much fun as anything I've owned, but a serious delinquent in the reliability department. My wife's Malibu, $13K after various discounts, makes me think "what a great, honest value". Handling, so so, gruff, torquey engine, decent stereo, nothing special; I just like it.
  • louisweilouiswei Posts: 3,717
    They are all ELLPS I assume? Let me take a crack at this...

    (dunno, could be IS350 but that'll the the worst stats for it ever)
    IS350 (I think this is more like it)
  • mz6greyghostmz6greyghost Posts: 1,230
    The first one's easy: MazdaSpeed 6
  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    I'll guess #6 is a 530i.

    Now for a historical perspective on the evolution of performance, anyone know what this is:

    $16,000 8.3 16.5 135 n/a 0.80 20

    How about the 1984 Toyota Supra "S", my first "sports car" (which was actually a 2+2 GT Hatchback that could carry 4 adults and luggage at least as comfortably as the IS350). 3.0 liter I6 with 162 hp. Curb weight of 3,000 lbs. Won several awards and beat out the 280Z as sports car of the year.

    P.S. Louiswei: The 1984 Supra had 14" wheels with 225/60 VR tires. :surprise: Try to find those today!! ;)
  • louisweilouiswei Posts: 3,717
    P.S. Louiswei: The 1984 Supra had 14" wheels with 225/60 VR tires. Try to find those today!!

    LOL, habitat1, still pulling my chin eh?

    I totally agree with you that 14" will get the job done but from a "beauty" sort of speak perspective I would rather to have those 18"s.
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