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  • ruking1ruking1 Posts: 19,826
    edited December 2018
    No!

    This is easy to see: $4.00 CA vs $1.90 TX per gal.

    California is an outstanding example where fuel taxes are “REpurposed “ for other than “logical/promised, etc” road and transportation uses. I’ve never followed WA fuel/ transportation fund allocations, so I really can’t speak to it.

    So even if I/we could get autobahn speeds here, the MB GLK 250 BT tops out @ what 130 mph? I’ve had MB GLK 250 BT up around 120 mph on Interstate Highway 5. 👍 Cruising at 90 mph gets deceptively similar mpg to terrible commute traffic.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 53,058
    California promises and doesn't always deliver. It's not much different in WA (seeing as maybe half of CA moved up here), especially now that we are finally building out some transit after the me generation kicked that can down the road for a few decades. Some other places deliver a lot more from their tax proceeds than anywhere in the US.

    An easy software update can overcome those speed governors B) And yes, up to a certain point, high speed doesn't destroy mileage, especially in a very efficient engine like the 4cyl BT.
  • ruking1ruking1 Posts: 19,826
    edited December 2018
    Sure, I/we would like/LOVE pillow soft roads. But I have to say that in almost all the cars I’ve had, have been lucky with no damages due to (CA/US) ultra poor roads. We've taken some bone/teeth rattling hits. However, noteworthy is needing no alignments @ tire changing to 100,000 miles.

    Tire life is extremely hard to measure, as I have done no A/B testing. So for example, it is becoming clear @ 75,000 miles, the MB GLK 250 BT will soon need new tires. Things are a tad confusing, as the OEM tires have poor to bad ratings and also are run flats. So modest expectations are longer tire life (>85,000 miles, $.01176 cents per mile driven) and even better mpg😎 (> than avg 37 mpg, or 39 mpg) Could I have gotten better results on German roads? While I’d like to think so, I really couldn’t quantify it. But for sure costs will be way higher (fuel/car, etc. costs).

    Its is up and down the food chain also. I mean how much cheaper than Saudi Arabia’s $2.00 USD per bbl can you get, pulling it out of the ground? Fuel in SA is .48 cents per gal. Yet, I was reading that Saudi Arabia needs approximately $90 USD per bbl (?) to fund it’s country's policies! So any less obviously can create “angst”.
  • berriberri Posts: 10,165
    We;ll never get top quality roads in the US because basically it is a gov jobs funding program and has been for years.
  • ruking1ruking1 Posts: 19,826
    edited December 2018
    And we all thought the price of a gallon of gas was rather random? Nothing could be farther from the truth.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 53,058
    I don't want soft roads, those wear too fast. I want smooth roads, and competently engineered roads. Sometimes there can be a dearth of both. And don't get me started on traffic controls, poor versions of which increase gasoline consumption.

    Regarding top quality roads, the idiot Randians who have stolen so much power over the past couple decades would call it "socialism", and their cult of morons would agree.

    Speaking of tires, if I buy out the E250, I am going to switch to conventional tires.

  • ruking1ruking1 Posts: 19,826
    edited December 2018
    fintail said:

    I don't want soft roads, those wear too fast. I want smooth roads, and competently engineered roads. Sometimes there can be a dearth of both. And don't get me started on traffic controls, poor versions of which increase gasoline consumption.

    Regarding top quality roads, the idiot Randians who have stolen so much power over the past couple decades would call it "socialism", and their cult of morons would agree.

    Speaking of tires, if I buy out the E250, I am going to switch to conventional tires.

    In California, that era was approximately 55-51 years ago! The last “well engineered road” that I can recall was Highway 280 SF, CA to Silicon Valley) finished in 1968/1969, non asphalt). 90 mph to 130 mph (bias belt tires, how many people even remember what those are ?) were almost literally like being in ones living room. PUG was .28 cents per gal. 6 walnut handle steak knives were free.

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 185,545
    Local Shell station (away from the freeway)

    $2.13 RUG
    $2.73 PUG

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  • texasestexases Posts: 9,513
    $1.80 RUG. Looooow...
  • ruking1ruking1 Posts: 19,826
    edited December 2018
    texases said:

    $1.80 RUG. Looooow...

    So would you say that (low Texas $1.80) was bad or good ?👍😱

    RUG $3.35, PUG $3.65, ULSD $3.89, local. 👎.7382 per gal taxes. Per gal diesel is more, but very few articles will make the state cop to it.

    ...”Better quality roads of virtually every type, some of the best transit in the world (subsidized by those taxes), those alone explain the costs. We pay little, and get little”...

    While I wish it true, a resounding NO to the above hypothesis.

    (By all rights, we should be paying less and getting more.)

    So, it looks like CA is paying app 86% more in taxes, etc.”
    http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/california-drivers-pay-some-of-the-highest-gas-taxes-in-the-nation

    https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/09/04/gas-tax-what-you-actually-pay-on-each-gallon-of-gas/

    The CA roads that the MB GLK 250 BT commutes on, (18,000 miles) not only has some of the highest fuel taxes, but has some of the most horrid roads ! (in the nation)

    The MB GLK 350 (PUG gasoline version same model) would probably get way less (20/21 mpg vs 36/37 mpg) on the same commute. Cost would be app 61% MORE (per mile driven) than ULSD, even as the fuel is more $3.65 PUG. Needless to say, the sound of one hand clapping indicates 71.4% more fuel (857 gal/500 gal) would be used each year.

    GO DIESEL!

    Because we have gotten used to conditions, it’s really hard to easy to imagine that almost anywhere we would want to buy fuel/commute would be cheaper/to having better roads.

    Merry Christmas everyone and a Happy New Year !
  • ruking1ruking1 Posts: 19,826
    edited December 2018
    This article in the Wall Street Journal https://www.wsj.com/articles/gas-prices-are-falling-but-refiners-keep-making-more-11545566401
    Gas Prices Are Falling, but Refiners Keep Making More

    By Stephanie Yang

    ...”Percentage breakdown of products made from a barrel of crude oil
    Gasoline
    46%
    Distillates
    29%
    Jet fuel
    11%
    Other
    products
    15%
    Note: As of September 2018;
    Figures don’t add to 100 due to rounding.
    Source: U.S. Energy Information Administration
    Newsletter Sign-up”...

    ...”Producing one barrel of gasoline yields about $1.50 as of Friday, compared with an average $12 going back to 2012. In contrast, diesel margins were recently at $19 a barrel, compared with a longer-term average of $15.
    ”People are running for distillate and storing the gasoline,” said Greg Garland, chief executive of Phillips 66 , in November.”...

    So this is both good/bad news for: refiners-slightly more profit. RUG/PUG users have cheaper per gal, growing inventories, & ULSD users experience cheaper per mile driven costs. So for my CA current prices, is it interesting what a $.54 /$.33 per gal difference MORE for ULSD making ULSD cheaper per mile driven over PUG.
  • ruking1ruking1 Posts: 19,826
    Enjoy the low fuel pricing while it’s here! Here is what might be coming ahead?...https://finance.yahoo.com/news/oil-price-fundamental-daily-forecast-110154919.html
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 185,545
    RUG: $1.93 on I-75 in KY

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  • PF_FlyerPF_Flyer Pennsylvania Furnace, PAPosts: 9,403
    Down to $2.59 this morning. Kind of late Santa, but I'll take it :)
  • ruking1ruking1 Posts: 19,826
    edited December 2018
    kyfdx said:

    RUG: $1.93 on I-75 in KY

    Happy pricing ! WTI $42.53 bbl.

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 180,594
    $2.63/gal for mid grade at Kroger’s here in Colorado today. 

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  • texasestexases Posts: 9,513
    $1.78 for RUG in Dallas
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 15,611
    edited December 2018
    In central CT...
    Paid $2.919 for 93 octane PUG, which was cheaper than I paid for RUG a couple of months ago.
    Rumor is my truck is supposed to makes an additional 25 HP using 93 so I thought I'd try it out. :)
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  • PF_FlyerPF_Flyer Pennsylvania Furnace, PAPosts: 9,403
    Across the board.. RUG $2.59, mid-grade $2.89, premium $3.19, diesel $3.25
  • PF_FlyerPF_Flyer Pennsylvania Furnace, PAPosts: 9,403
    And just because it's colorful, a current gas price map


  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 185,545
    Local Shell station

    RUG: $1.99
    PUG: $2.59

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  • berriberri Posts: 10,165
    Hey, saw on the news the other night that some are predicting $3 gasoline by May. How can you predict something that is supposed to be a competitive market ;)
  • texasestexases Posts: 9,513
    Right before oil prices dropped recently, those same folks were predicting $100/bbl oil. Now under $50...

    With new pipelines opening up from the Permian, and with world economy on the skids, I'd be VERY surprised if gas took a big jump. But I've been surprised before.

    And you mean $3/gallon in places now seeing it at/under $2, right? California would be very happy with $3 gas in May, I bet.
  • sdasda Indian Land, SCPosts: 4,149
    $1.79 RUG earlier today about 10 miles from our house. $1.89 this morning about two miles from us which increased to $1.94 this afternoon. Go figure.

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  • texasestexases Posts: 9,513
    Oil has gone up a bit the last couple of days, so gas prices should follow. Not much, mind you.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 15,611
    In central CT...
    The other day at one of the cheaper stations saw RUG for under $2.30 a gallon.
    Drove by a station today where the sign says just under $2.80.
    It was in a long term construction zone, so maybe they are still selling an older fill up.
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  • ruking1ruking1 Posts: 19,826
    edited January 2019
    We also should keep in mind that anywhere from 10 % to 15 % of gallon of gas is in fact, ethanol.

    (So by mathematics) So a barrel oil (20 gallons of gasoline/10 gal of diesel) really is 22 gals of “gasoline fuel” products.

    So not only are we consuming 10% less gasoline ( of a bbl of oil) , we are also going 6% less in yearly mileage.
  • berriberri Posts: 10,165
    ...and some chemistry students are paying more for their alcohol bunson burner experiments ;)
  • ruking1ruking1 Posts: 19,826
    I thought Bunson was a poker player, sipping Jack Daniels. 😉
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 185,545
    Shell on I-69, Ft Wayne, IN

    RUG: $1.82 !!
    PUG: $2.62

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 15,611
    In Central Ct...
    Local station, RUG $2.339, Diesel $3.199.
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  • ruking1ruking1 Posts: 19,826
    edited January 2019
    Sure glad we weren’t at the fuel station where we normally get diesel, as an employee (@ another location) began shooting. The perp was engaged & killed by police officers (kudos). Sure glad the responding officers were not told to hold back, like they are/were at
    USA school shootings sites and other sanctuary city venues like San Francisco.

    Oh by the way: RUG $3.35, PUG $3.59, ULSD $3.75.
  • PF_FlyerPF_Flyer Pennsylvania Furnace, PAPosts: 9,403
    ruking1 said:

    I thought Bunson was a poker player, sipping Jack Daniels. 😉

    Bunson Burner WOULD be a great poker name. Maybe I'll use that the next time I play a tournament :)

    $2.55, $2.85, $3.15 and $3.13 for diesel

    Sam's bumped up to $2.45, so those may be on the move
  • ruking1ruking1 Posts: 19,826
    edited January 2019
    RUG $3.29, PUG $3.73, ULSD $3.79

    -5% C/C fuel purchase. (-.19 cents)

    37.55 mpg ULSD, MB GLK 250 BT.

    PUG version gets app 21/22 MPG per fuelly.com

    https://news.yahoo.com/saudi-arabia-says-vast-oil-reserves-even-bigger-152036588.html
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 15,611
    Was just at the gas station today, in CT.
    RUG $2.399, PUG $2,899, Diesel $3.199.
    Includes 6 cents for using credit.
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  • texasestexases Posts: 9,513
    $1.90 for RUG now, up $0.18. 
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 185,545
    $1.89 for RUG at Kroger

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  • ruking1ruking1 Posts: 19,826
    edited January 2019
    ruking1 said:

    RUG $3.29, PUG $3.73, ULSD $3.79

    -5% C/C fuel purchase. (-.19 cents)

    37.55 mpg ULSD, MB GLK 250 BT.

    PUG version gets app 21/22 MPG per fuelly.com

    https://news.yahoo.com/saudi-arabia-says-vast-oil-reserves-even-bigger-152036588.html

    Running PUG/ULSD numbers (on like-model MB GLK’s), PUG costs 77.6% MORE (per mile driven) than ULSD!!

    Very soon will probably take a hit to the mpg (given all things similar) with new tires (@ app 76,000 miles) & alignment. But then again, since the OEM tires are run flats, the new NON run flats may not experience much of a difference.
  • ruking1ruking1 Posts: 19,826
    edited January 2019
    Thinking of electrical cars ? Think this cannot happen in your state ? https://finance.yahoo.com/news/pg-e-said-plan-bankruptcy-010933043.html
    Do you really think the cost per kWh kilowatt hour will go down ?
    Make mine diesel !
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 15,611
    edited January 2019
    Our electric rate just went up 20% as of Jan 1. The rate is only 1 part of the overall bill.
    RUG holding steady in the low $2.30 range.
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  • PF_FlyerPF_Flyer Pennsylvania Furnace, PAPosts: 9,403
    Bumped up 4 cents to $2.59. Pre-snow jitters ;)
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 15,611
    edited January 2019
    Topped off the tank with 21 gallons of PUG today, due to snow storms on the way.
    $2.859, Down 6 cent from last fill up 3 weeks ago.
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  • berriberri Posts: 10,165
    Good move. Now go out and get some good Brandy and cigars, park the Explorer and light the fireplace - you're all set ;)
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 15,611
    edited January 2019
    @berry,
    No way. I pride myself on getting to work no matter what.
    The only time I didn't make it to work was when I was too tired after shoveling the snow for 7 hours to clear everything.
    The WFH people know who to call when they need their office computer rebooted while their Highlanders and Pilots stay home. ;)
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  • berriberri Posts: 10,165
    The only time I didn't make it to work was when I was too tired after shoveling the snow for 7 hours to clear everything.

    ...and then it rained and turned the driveway to glazed ice. Wait, that would be the Midwest :D
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 15,611
    Well guess what? No snow after all. Ride home was easy, a lot of people stayed home.
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  • ruking1ruking1 Posts: 19,826
    Other day there was little to no snow, to speak of. We are looking at the accumulation of 3 to 6 feet Lake Tahoe, CA.
  • berriberri Posts: 10,165
    Beautiful area, snow or not
  • ruking1ruking1 Posts: 19,826
    edited January 2019
    Oem runflats went app 76,000 miles. 3/32nds in left (2/32nds in, mandatory to change). Mpg for oem runflats, etc., has been 36-37.5 per tank full (15+ gal fill/17.4 gal stated capacity) So this is the start of another long term tire test. https://www.bridgestonetire.com/tire/dueler-hl-alenza-plus
    Given a series of factors, the estimate: app 108,000 -119,000 miles on this new set. MPG should be similar. 36-37.5., to hopefully slightly more 36.5 to 38.5 mpg (NON run flat)
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