2016 Mercedes-Benz E-Class Lease Questions

datbenzboy

Even man, still trying to work out numbers on an E class...

What are the numbers for 2016 E400 coupe either RWD or AWD for :24 & 36 months with 10K each term. or in other words, what is the "sweet spot"? Thank you! trying to see which combination has the highest residual and lowest money factor!

kyfdx

map_dich said:

Michaell said:

map_dich said:

Thanks, Michaell. So, using an MF 0.00180 and residual value 59% comes out about $924 a month.

That's not what I get - using $67,475 as the MSRP and $62,984 as the net cap cost, I get about $829/mo before tax.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but in Texas, I believe we have to pay tax on the entire purchase amount rather than the depreciated amount. 6.25% x $62,984 = $3936.50 divided by 36mo = $109 in taxes/mo. The $924/mo that I came up also includes taxes. Does that sound right? Thanks.

Yes.. you are correct on taxes

kyfdx

datbenzboy said:

Even man, still trying to work out numbers on an E class...

What are the numbers for 2016 E400 coupe either RWD or AWD for :24 & 36 months with 10K each term. or in other words, what is the "sweet spot"? Thank you! trying to see which combination has the highest residual and lowest money factor!

.00109 MF for RWD
.00111 MF for AWD

61%/56% residual for either model.. 36 months is definitely the best

bill11783

Hi, need to know what the payment would be on a 27 mo./10k 2015 e350 4matic:
$61,425MSRP
$50,400 selling price
8.625% sales tax
Acq. Fee $795
Payment to include sales tax. Only dmv out of pocket.
Thanks in advance!

kyfdx

bill11783 said:

Hi, need to know what the payment would be on a 27 mo./10k 2015 e350 4matic:
$61,425MSRP
$50,400 selling price
8.625% sales tax
Acq. Fee $795
Payment to include sales tax. Only dmv out of pocket.
Thanks in advance!

.00033 MF and 65% residual

At those numbers, I get $447/mo.+tax... or about $486/mo.

cobalttugger

Is it correct that the you can do up to ten security deposits and they reduce the MF .00007 each?

kyfdx

cobalttugger said:

Is it correct that the you can do up to ten security deposits and they reduce the MF .00007 each?

Not sure of the specifics on Mercedes MSD program.

faraza

may i please get the residual and money factor for a 36 month 12 k lease on an E550

Michaell

faraza said:

may i please get the residual and money factor for a 36 month 12 k lease on an E550

Standard MF (.00180-.00220) and 55% for 36/12 on the 2016 E550 sedan

cobalttugger

Good morning guys. Are the Sept MF/RV numbers available from MBFS?

E400 Coupe 36/10k
E550 Coupe 36/10k

Thanks!

datbenzboy

Afternoon Mod! 

Appreciate the all the help you guys give us. 

Do do you have the E350 AWD drive money factor and residual? Whatever works better either 24 months or 36 months. Thank you! 

datbenzboy

bill11783 said:

Hi, need to know what the payment would be on a 27 mo./10k 2015 e350 4matic: $61,425MSRP $50,400 selling price 8.625% sales tax Acq. Fee $795 Payment to include sales tax. Only dmv out of pocket. Thanks in advance!

 Jesus 11k off the msrp. Who ARE you dealing with? 

kyfdx

cobalttugger said:

Good morning guys. Are the Sept MF/RV numbers available from MBFS?

E400 Coupe 36/10k
E550 Coupe 36/10k

Thanks!

400: .00109 MF and 60% residual
550: Standard MF and 56% residual

testdriver7

Hello,

Could you please share the September MF and Residuals for E350 for
36/10k
36/12k
36/15k

Is there a better deal to be found for 24 or 27 month leases?

I'm in Northern California and am being offered MF 0.00160 and residual of 59% for 36/10k and feel that they are not right?

Thanks!

Michaell

testdriver7 said:

Hello,

Could you please share the September MF and Residuals for E350 for
36/10k
36/12k
36/15k

Is there a better deal to be found for 24 or 27 month leases?

I'm in Northern California and am being offered MF 0.00160 and residual of 59% for 36/10k and feel that they are not right?

Thanks!

RWD? .00080 and 56% for 36/15, 65% for 24/15.

Add 2% for 12K and 3% for 10K.

No 27 month term for the E-class in September.

msmlaw23

Ok,so this is my first time taking at stab at this, any tips are appreciated. Been going back and forth with a few dealers and got a few pretty low. The dealer I am considering has offered a 2016 E350 with MSRP of $61,155 and have them at $52,176. The model I want is actually $61,915. I'm going to go with it if I can get them to $51,000. I also have a fleet discount of $4,000 more off (which I have not mentioned as it said I could negotiate first then add it in). So that would put me at $47,000. I haven't mentioned the lease part yet. If someone could help me weigh on what the residual would be for a 12k p/yr or 15k p/yr. Also, can I qualify ahead of time with MB Financial so I don't have to screw around at the dealer? It's a bit a hike. Any tips? Then I tell them I want to do multiple security deposit to get down the MF? Is there anything I am missing?

testdriver7

Michaell said:

testdriver7 said:

Hello,

Could you please share the September MF and Residuals for E350 for
36/10k
36/12k
36/15k

Is there a better deal to be found for 24 or 27 month leases?

I'm in Northern California and am being offered MF 0.00160 and residual of 59% for 36/10k and feel that they are not right?

Thanks!

RWD? .00080 and 56% for 36/15, 65% for 24/15.

Add 2% for 12K and 3% for 10K.

No 27 month term for the E-class in September.

Thanks!

I'm a first timer and have a Noob question: I was quoted a much higher MF (double). Is MF negotiable or fixed by the company that dealers cannot increase/decrease? The one mentioned here in the forms (i.e., 0.00080) is an average, minimum, or maximum MF?

Also, do folks on the forum typically pick a car and negotiate with the specific dealer or send out specs and let each dealer quote on the closest match in their inventory?

kyfdx

testdriver7 said:

Michaell said:

testdriver7 said:

Hello,

Could you please share the September MF and Residuals for E350 for
36/10k
36/12k
36/15k

Is there a better deal to be found for 24 or 27 month leases?

I'm in Northern California and am being offered MF 0.00160 and residual of 59% for 36/10k and feel that they are not right?

Thanks!

RWD? .00080 and 56% for 36/15, 65% for 24/15.

Add 2% for 12K and 3% for 10K.

No 27 month term for the E-class in September.

Thanks!

I'm a first timer and have a Noob question: I was quoted a much higher MF (double). Is MF negotiable or fixed by the company that dealers cannot increase/decrease? The one mentioned here in the forms (i.e., 0.00080) is an average, minimum, or maximum MF?

Also, do folks on the forum typically pick a car and negotiate with the specific dealer or send out specs and let each dealer quote on the closest match in their inventory?

The money factor quoted is the base rate for top tier credit. Dealers may (and often do) attempt to markup this rate for extra profit. As you've found, sometimes by a large amount.

Everyone negotiates differently. I try to find the closest dealer that has the car I want on the lot, and try to get my deal from them. If that doesn't work, I expand my circle. (Some like to hit up all the dealers and try to get a race to the bottom.. that seems like too much work...lol)

testdriver7

I'm getting the following for 2016 E350 Sports, 3yr/10k:

MSRP: $70380
Cap cost: $59495 ($58450 price + 1095 acquisition cost)

Drive off: $652 (see below) + 1month
Weight Fee: + $24.00
Tag/Registration Fees (estimate): + $460.00
Flat Add/County Fee: + $20.00
Electronic Filing: + $29.00
Smog Abatement Fee: + $20.00
Documentation Fee: + $80.00

Payment: $686
MF: 0.0013 (0.0005 markup)

I've been asking to apply base MF of 0.0008 and remove the $300 markup from the acquisition cost. But seems like we are stuck. This will bring the payment to $621.

Is this a fair target? Is it typical to have such fees at drive offs? I haven't shopped around -- this is from the dealer who has the car on the lot.

Also, is it better to roll in acquisition cost and/or other fees in the lease or pay upfront?

kyfdx

testdriver7 said:

I'm getting the following for 2016 E350 Sports, 3yr/10k:

MSRP: $70380
Cap cost: $59495 ($58450 price + 1095 acquisition cost)

Drive off: $652 (see below) + 1month
Weight Fee: + $24.00
Tag/Registration Fees (estimate): + $460.00
Flat Add/County Fee: + $20.00
Electronic Filing: + $29.00
Smog Abatement Fee: + $20.00
Documentation Fee: + $80.00

Payment: $686
MF: 0.0013 (0.0005 markup)

I've been asking to apply base MF of 0.0008 and remove the $300 markup from the acquisition cost. But seems like we are stuck. This will bring the payment to $621.

Is this a fair target? Is it typical to have such fees at drive offs? I haven't shopped around -- this is from the dealer who has the car on the lot.

Also, is it better to roll in acquisition cost and/or other fees in the lease or pay upfront?

Markups are more typical than not... You have to balance that against the big discount from MSRP. It's possible they may have not offered that low of a price, if they had to use the base rates. Some finance departments take markups every time, and won't negotiate on that point.

So..look at the deal in it's entirety. $686/mo, all in..is pretty darn good for a $70K MSRP vehicle.

fllease16

What is the absolute best month to start lease and any tips on leasing when my intention is to buy at the end.  Thanks guys

Michaell

fllease16 said:

What is the absolute best month to start lease and any tips on leasing when my intention is to buy at the end.  Thanks guys

There is no "best" month, and if your intention is to buy the car, just do so from the outset and don't lease to begin with.

cobalttugger

Hey guys, are lease numbers still available for 2015 E400C? 36/10

Thanks!

Michaell

cobalttugger said:

Hey guys, are lease numbers still available for 2015 E400C? 36/10

Thanks!

.00055 and 56%

ttg911

How's this lease deal we are being offered?

2016 E350 Sport 4-Matic

MSRP: $66.090
Selling Price: $56,593
15,000 miles a year
$37,010 residual (56%)
.00077 money factor (1.85%)
$2,500 out-of-pocket (only $150 as cap cost reduction and the rest paying first month, acquisition fee of $1,095 and taxes, registration, etc.)
Monthly payment including tax for 36-months: $650 (6.25% tax)

Michaell

ttg911 said:

How's this lease deal we are being offered?

2016 E350 Sport 4-Matic

MSRP: $66.090
Selling Price: $56,593
15,000 miles a year
$37,010 residual (56%)
.00077 money factor (1.85%)
$2,500 out-of-pocket (only $150 as cap cost reduction and the rest paying first month, acquisition fee of $1,095 and taxes, registration, etc.)
Monthly payment including tax for 36-months: $650 (6.25% tax)

I get the same payment .... looks like a very healthy discount from sticker.

ttg911

Thanks. Is the acquisition fee marked up by the dealer?

Michaell

ttg911 said:

Thanks. Is the acquisition fee marked up by the dealer?

Yes, the base acquisition fee is $795. Might not get the same discount from sticker if you push them on it. But, cannot hurt to try.

ttg911

That's what I thought...an extra $300 for the dealer!

Michaell

ttg911 said:

That's what I thought...an extra $300 for the dealer!

But, they are giving you an almost $10K discount from sticker ...

cupertino

testdriver7 said:

I'm getting the following for 2016 E350 Sports, 3yr/10k:

MSRP: $70380
Cap cost: $59495 ($58450 price + 1095 acquisition cost)

Drive off: $652 (see below) + 1month
Weight Fee: + $24.00
Tag/Registration Fees (estimate): + $460.00
Flat Add/County Fee: + $20.00
Electronic Filing: + $29.00
Smog Abatement Fee: + $20.00
Documentation Fee: + $80.00

Payment: $686
MF: 0.0013 (0.0005 markup)

I've been asking to apply base MF of 0.0008 and remove the $300 markup from the acquisition cost. But seems like we are stuck. This will bring the payment to $621.

Is this a fair target? Is it typical to have such fees at drive offs? I haven't shopped around -- this is from the dealer who has the car on the lot.

Also, is it better to roll in acquisition cost and/or other fees in the lease or pay upfront?

Which dealer are you talking to ? I am at N. Cal as well, looking to take on a 2016 E350
Please PM me more details.

aepps22

Hi guys,

Can you give me the MF and Residuals for a 2016 E350:

24/7,500
24/10,000
24/12,000


Thank you

kyfdx

aepps22 said:

Hi guys,

Can you give me the MF and Residuals for a 2016 E350:

24/7,500
24/10,000
24/12,000


Thank you

.00080 MF and 69%/68%/67% residual

aepps22

kyfdx said:

Hi guys, Can you give me the MF and Residuals for a 2016 E350: 24/7,500 24/10,000 24/12,000 Thank you

.00080 MF and 69%/68%/67% residual

Thank you. Does it matter that I am talking about a 4 matic? I was quoted a MF of. 00107. 

Michaell

aepps22 said:

kyfdx said:

aepps22 said:

Hi guys,

Can you give me the MF and Residuals for a 2016 E350:

24/7,500
24/10,000
24/12,000


Thank you

.00080 MF and 69%/68%/67% residual

Thank you. Does it matter that I am talking about a 4 matic? I was quoted a MF of. 00107. 



Residual is the same; base MF is .00077 on the 4Matic. Your dealer is marking up the MF on you.

ttg911

Just signed this deal yesterday....

kyfdx

ttg911 said:

Just signed this deal yesterday....

Congrats on the new car!

tonka858

Could i please get rates E400 MF and Residual 12/36

ttg911

2016 E350 Sport... 2yr/15K per year lease:

MSRP: $66,100

Adjusted Cap Cost: $53,675 ($54,770 price minus the $1,095 acquisition cost which I paid)

Drive off: $2,155 ($1,095 acquisition cost plus $512 cap cost reduction and $548 first month payment)

Money factor: .000725 (mark down from .00077)

Residual: 65% or $42,965

Payment: $548.65

How'd I do?

Michaell

ttg911 said:

2016 E350 Sport... 2yr/15K per year lease:

MSRP: $66,100

Adjusted Cap Cost: $53,675 ($54,770 price minus the $1,095 acquisition cost which I paid)

Drive off: $2,155 ($1,095 acquisition cost plus $512 cap cost reduction and $548 first month payment)

Money factor: .000725 (mark down from .00077)

Residual: 65% or $42,965

Payment: $548.65

How'd I do?

$549/mo for a $66K car is doing quite well; enjoy and congrats!

Michaell

tonka858 said:

Could i please get rates E400 MF and Residual 12/36

Standard MF and 61% for 36/12.

tonka858

Michaell said:

tonka858 said:

Could i please get rates E400 MF and Residual 12/36

Standard MF and 61% for 36/12.

Sorry don't know what standard is
also is 2015 same rate?

Michaell

tonka858 said:

Michaell said:

tonka858 said:

Could i please get rates E400 MF and Residual 12/36

Standard MF and 61% for 36/12.

Sorry don't know what standard is
also is 2015 same rate?

Standard MF is around .00200 to .00220

Same MF for 2015 but 60% residual for 36/12

dteeking

Hi mod,

Can you help me with a 2016 E250 4Matic? I am looking for Residuals and MF for 36 month 10K and 12K miles. Thanks.

Michaell

dteeking said:

Hi mod,

Can you help me with a 2016 E250 4Matic? I am looking for Residuals and MF for 36 month 10K and 12K miles. Thanks.

.00098 and 58% for 36/12. Add 1% for 10K

albertob

Can you update numbers for month of October:
2016
E350 sedan /wagon
36/27/24 month
10/12/15k miles
Residual
Money factor
Any lease incentives to consumer or dealer.
Thanks for the information you provide.

Michaell

albertob said:

Can you update numbers for month of October:
2016
E350 sedan /wagon
36/27/24 month
10/12/15k miles
Residual
Money factor
Any lease incentives to consumer or dealer.
Thanks for the information you provide.

15K residuals:
Sedan - .00077 and 65% / 56% (no 27 month numbers)
Wagon - standard MF and 65% / 59% (no 27 month numbers)

Add 2% for 12K and 3% for 10K

shaker58

what's the better program 24 or 36 months? also is there a 30 month?

kyfdx

shaker58 said:

what's the better program 24 or 36 months? also is there a 30 month?

Which model?

shaker58

E350 sport sedan 4matic