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Money Factor:
- Start with the BMWFS base rate of 0.00137 (if you are not offered that initially - walk away)
- Buy down the rate with MSD's
- See if you are eligible for a Corp discount of 0.0002
Sale price or Cap cost:
- Don't let the dealer start throwing in rebate stuff before you come to a final price. Negotiate like you are going to purchase if need be. It's only after you get to a final price should you start adding the rebates.
- I found a wide variety of dealer pricing. Some close to invoice, some $3K over and a few under. It depends how bad they want to get rid of the car. With the end of the Quarter coming up the end of this month high be a great opportunity to make a deal.
- I found this simple equation to be pretty accurate to determine Invoice (MSRP x 0.92895 = INVOICE)
Rebates and Residuals: (2016 X5 40e)
- These change every month. Currently there are two standard rebates from BMW (for August) on the 40e, $3500 and $2000- total of $5500. The $2K was added in August and may disappear in Sept or may be raised. There are trying to clear out the 2016 cars so big incentives right now.
- There is also a Corp or loyalty rebate of $1000 if you are eligible. (total rebates = $6500)
- BMW also tweaks the residuals from month to month. Currently it's 60% (36/10) for the 2016 but was 57% a few months ago
- MY 2017 - current residual is 57% and only $3K rebates. I was going to order a 2017 but right now is not the time. The lease cost for a 2017 less equipped car was over $150 more per month. It may get better by the end of the year.
Use a lease calculator and you should get very close to exact penny of what your lease will cost.
I learned a lot of this on this forum - thanks!
Good luck!
Can someone help me figure out this deal? This is a 2016 X5M demo car with 7600 miles.
Disregard the Cust. Cash/Drive off - that has yet to be determined because supposedly, a third party holds the title and BMW will give an amount for taxes when I apply.
110895 MSRP
97895 Cap Cost
36/10K
.00137 MF
60% RV
Their screen print is showing 1143.50 pretax per month. But if I plug all that into a calculator I'm getting 1,096 per month pretax.
$6,332 or so would be my up front, which is taxes, first month, and acq fee etc.
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X5 35i (not e) demo w/ 6100 miles
$69,595 MSRP
$59,500 selling price including rebate which I believe is $2,000?
36 months /10k per yr.
.00137
60% RV
7% taxes
However, the residual amount will be reduced $1525 to account for the miles, This will add about $45/mo to the payment (with tax).
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and where do I subtract or add amount from?
without the mileage adj numbers. In second column, im getting $1096 pretax.
A bit confused. Sorry
and where do I subtract or add amount from?
without the mileage adj numbers. In second column, im getting $1096 pretax.
A bit confused. Sorry
In the second column, there is a dollar amount listed for mileage reduction ($1786). You have to subtract that from the residual amount. (that will be hard to do with a lease calculator).
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Got it figured out. Lol, thank you!
$6304 Down-
- $4200 7 MSD's
- $230 Cap reduction
- $599 First
- $506 DMV
- $116 Fees
- $543 Tax on Cap reduction
- $80 Doc
- $7 Gov fees
- $22 Tires recycle maybe
Tax on Cap reduction - Initial Cap reduction was $5805 + $230 (which I added) = $6035 x 9% = 543.
Hi,
I got this deal done. Going in tomorrow to sign papers. Just wanted one last opinion if the numbers look good?
Thanks!
I wanted to know what is "Rolled Drive Off" - $298.32?
I caught the shadow fee and had them take that off.
Oh and I caught the .00157 RV mark up. Had them bring it back down to .00137.
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X5 35i demo w/ 6100 miles
$69,595 MSRP
$59,500 selling price
36 months /10k per yr.
.00169
7% taxes
Doesn't seem that great to me.. Money factor markup adds $40/mo.
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Those numbers are correct for all X5's
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Those numbers are correct for all X5's
They were in fact extended through the weekend, I was told by a dealer today.
also, 2000 lease cash mentioned in some posts above on all X5s - is that already included in $5500 (for 2016) or $3000 ( for 2017) credit or is that 2000 on top of 40e specific credit?
Same of loyalty credit. what is the loyalty bonus this month. I am a current BMW customer.
He quoted me MF of .00137 and RV 59% (36/12k) for both 2016 and 2017 - which are in line with what I read above at least for 2016s.
My question is shouldn't 2017 have higher residuals.
Car we were looking at has MSRP $66895.
Selling price - 63000
Minus - 3500 in lease credit
Total Cap cost - 59,500
MF - .00088 (after 7 MSDs) and RV 59%
First month, plus inception fees due at signing, plus MSDs.
my calculations show me $692/month (including NJ taxes).. Dealer quoted me $719/month.
lots of questions
thanks
The lease credit on the 2017 model is $3000.
The 2017 residual is actually 56% for 36/12. (lower than the 2016 model).
To reduce confusion, the 2017 model discussion is here:
http://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/42587/bmw/x5/2017-bmw-x5-lease-questions#latest
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And, no guesses on what may happen to the numbers at that time.
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Thanks in advance!!
2016 edrive still has $5500 lease credit / rebate (same as aug). 2017 edrive has $4000 ($1000 more than aug)
$2000 option allowance.
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$2000 option allowance and $3500 lease credit.
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No lease cash
Yes, negotiate a discount + the option credit.
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Thank you!
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others having better luck finding a 2016 X5 x35i?
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
MSRP 67,595.00
Purchase Option 39,881.05 (Residual value)
Est. Miles Per Year 10,000
Rebate as Cap Reduction 4,500.00
MF = 0.00136?
Total Cash Required on Delivery 6,478.27
Total Drive Off 10,978.27
Disposition Fee 350.00
Amount Due at Signing
1st Month Payment 574.80
Fees & Insurance 623.00
Upfront Taxes 855.47
Cap Reduction (Cash) 4,425.00
Total Inception Fees 6,478.27
Tax Information
Type Amount Rate Paid
Cashdown Tax 562.81 6.2500 Upfront
Cashdown Tax 180.10 2.0000 Upfront
Cashdown Tax 112.56 1.2500 Upfront
Monthly Tax 32.81 6.2500 Capped
Monthly Tax 10.50 2.0000 Capped
Monthly Tax 6.56 1.2500 Capped
Fee Information
Description Amount Paid
Doc Fee 80.00 Upfront
Reg 467.00 Upfront
Flat Add/County Fee 20.00 Upfront
Tire Fee 7.00 Upfront
Electronic Filing 29.00 Upfront
Smog Abatement Fee 20.00 Upfront
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I am working on a deal involving a one pay lease in Texas on a 2017 AWD X5 for 36 months/10,000 miles per year. I am being told that in order to use sales tax credits on the lease (which seems to be a Texas specific benefit and which is what makes the one pay approach an appealing option over MSDs), they can't use the .00136 money factor since it is an "incentive" rate and they have to use regional money factors (which I haven't run across before in my research). I didn't think there was an incentive rate in place on the X5 right now and that the .00136 money factor was the base rate. Am curious whether anyone has ever heard of that distinction. They also seem to be ignoring the .0003 reduction for a one pay lease (no specific statement that it was tied to the use of sales tax credits). Does anyone know whether that's an incentive that is no longer offered?
Thanks in advance.
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1) I hear that corporate fleet discount is $1000 cap reduction along with .00020 discount in MF. Are these numbers correct for September 2016 X5?
2) How do I take this $1000 cap reduction. If I have a selling price, do I deduct this 1k from that to get to cap cost assuming all others discount/incentives have been taken into account before agreeing on the selling price.
3) Also, $2000 option allowance for 2016 X5 - is that only for models with certain options/packages or does this apply to all 2016 models.
4) And September numbers are .00136 base MF and 58% RV for 36 month, 12k/yr lease. Correct?
Thanks for your help.
2) See #1
3) $2000 option allowance on all 2016 X5s
4) Correct
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MSRP : 76500. Dealer offering for 70000.
What lease incentive are available for September?
What is the RV / MF for 36 months / 45k
What should be the monthly payment that i should be looking at assuming Zero down?
Thx in advance
$2000 option allowance
With those numbers, $935/mo.plus tax (assuming the dealer is already including the $2000 in that offer).
I rolled in the acquisition fee, but tax/title/license would have to be paid upfront.
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