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None that we're aware of.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
2016 IS300 AWD F-Sport
MSRP: $47,298
Sale Price: $42,311.91
36 Months
15k Miles
Trade only down ($5,500)
$295/month
Cap Cost Reduction
$4,279.62
Acq Fee
$700
Doc Fee
$600
Rent Charge (???)
$1,725.84
Is this a good deal?
If so, looks good.
Rent charge is the total finance charges on the lease.
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Savings 2738
Rebate 374.99
Cap Cost/MVP 38975
Sales Tax 603.11
Dealer/State Fees 502.20
Customer Cash 1999
Net Residual 27530.58 (66%)
MF 0.00095
Drive off 2373.99
9 MSD's offered but small change in payment
Monthly lease payment 374.99
My questions below:
1) Is this a good deal on the lease?
2) Think I can counter for more off the cap cost?
3) According to the Lexus website, first month's payment is complimentary - why is that included as part of my drive off?
4) Am I able to understand where the customer cash is going towards? With my calculations, it seems only $1300 of the $2000 is going towards cap cost reduction
Thanks in advance.
2) We don't track selling prices
3) Because the payment has to be accounted for. Your drive-off is $374.99 more than the actual cash you have to come up with. That $374.99 is covered by the rebate.
4) The one charge missing is the $700 acquisition fee. Looks like your $1999 covers tax, fees, $700 acquisition fee, and maybe a little bit of CAP cost reduction (about $200).
Not sure why the MSDs didn't make a bigger change to the payment. I'd ask them to run the numbers on that, as well. How much did it change?
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Enjoy your new IS for the next 3 years, and thanks for sharing your deal details with us.
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Does anyone know how the $2649 due at signing indicated on the advertised deal for the 2016 IS300 is applied to? Does it all go towards cap reduction or fees are included? Using a lease calculator I cannot make the numbers of the standard deal work with MFacebook 0.0006 and 66% residual work unless the car is discounted a couple of thousand. That indicated to me that there is some kind of hidden cash somewhere that Lexus provides. Anybody tried it?
I was offered 36/10k around 360 plus tax with 4100 down (they added 1500 worth of fees on top of the down-payment of 2600). The car msrp is 46K they offered it for 46K. I am not happy with the deal state is MI btw.
Please let me know what your thought are thank you in advance.
You are right - no discount from sticker and $4100 down is not a good deal. Might be time to try another dealer.
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Still, we don't recommend a down payment - that money is lost if the car is stolen or totaled.
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Thank you
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http://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/40211/lexus/rc-200t/2016-rc-200t-lease-questions?new=1
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MSRP-45063
Dealer discount/rebate - 2763
cap cost - 42300
Accessories - 990 (paint protection and tint, not sure if this is included in cap cost)
11500 trade allow
11000 trade payoff
.0007 MF (from dealer)
36mo/10,000
tax - 8.15%
no additional cash down
Payment - 551.41
Don't feel like this is all that great from what I have seen above.
Does this look right? Am I missing something?
Need to know the adjusted cap cost (including any up front fees) to run the numbers.
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Market Value - 45063
Discount - 2763
selling price - 42300
Accessories - 990
doc prep fee - 699.99
license/title - 79.24
Acquisition fee - 700
Tax on Collected items - 84.27
capitalized initial fees - 534.53
total Cap - 45388.03
trade allow - 11500
trade payoff - 11000
rebate savings - 534
Net cap cost - 44,354
Base Payment - 494.25
Monthly tax - 40.28
36 mo payment - 534.53
capitalized initial fees - -534.53
1st payment - 534.53
Due on Del - 0.00
Rate - .0007
ann miles - 10,000
Residual % - 60+3=63%
Residual amount - 28389.69
Tax - 8.15%
This still doesn't feel like a good deal to me. I have asked the dealer to reevaluate without any trade (don't have to trade current car - 2010 MB C300 67k mi)
Also the "Accessories" are
Lexus of H Protection - $394
Tinted Windows - $595
$50/mo is the difference between an average deal and a great deal.
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We don't have the specific numbers for New England, but the range provided should give you an idea.
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Thanks!
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Thanks in advance
Can't predict what will happen down the road.
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Need a quick reply...as I can cancel within what...3 days...good or not
If you haven't taken delivery, you've still signed a contract but the dealer may let you out of it.
Need to know the MSRP and adjusted cap cost in order to tell you if the payment is good or not.
And, what is the tax rate where you live?
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MSRP $51733 with $1500 rebate cash and $3000 cash down. $51733 cap cost. $1787.72 sales tax. Doc fee $449.50 & title fee $21. Other fees $197.25. Net residual $32074.46 at 53%. MF .000700. Drive off $1500. Monthly payment of $551.99.
Is this a good deal? The residual % is a bit scary, but I realize the car will be a year older than a typical 3-year lease when all is said and done, and I plan to buy it after the lease period anyway. Also, why is the cap cost the same as the MSRP? Keep in mind, all these numbers are pulled directly from the payment document the dealer gave me.
Thanks in advance!
If the MSRP and cap cost are the same, I get $562/mo before tax.
What does the $1500 at signing go to?
What is the tax rate? I thought Nevada taxes the monthly payment, not collect it up front - but, I could be wrong about that.
Yes, you should negotiate a discount from sticker, just as if you were buying.
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I got the same calculation on a $51,733 cap cost as well. Not sure where the $1500 rebate is going--after doing a couple other calculations, this is what I got:
1.) MSRP - $1500 rebates = $529.66/mo (based on $50,233 cap cost)
2.) MSRP - $1500 rebates - $3000 cash down = $465.06/mo (based on $47,233 cap cost)
And then, of course:
3.) MSRP - $0 (cap cost the same as MSRP) = $561.96
With that said, I'm quite perplexed how the dealer even got to $551.99/mo. Will definitely be worth asking! Also, you are correct--NV lease sales tax is applied to the monthly payment, not upfront.
One thing to note, the paperwork says the net residual value is $32074.46, which is actually the value based on the 36-month lease residual value percentage of 62%. My calculations show the correct net residual value as $27418.49 (based off 48-month 53% residual). Do I mention this to the dealer, as well? I imagine a greater net residual value will equal a lower monthly lease payment, correct?
where in NV are you at and getting 449 doc fee?
both dealers in Vegas are quoting me 699.99 doc fee.
This is a 2016 200t F sport. Nav. Illuminated sills. Rear spoiler. Convenience package.
45,063 MSRP
2016 LEXUS IS 200T
Lease Deal
Market Value
45,063.00
Discount Savings
-3,263.00
Vehicle Selling Price
41,800.00
Accessories
501.00
Document Prep Fee
699.99
License / Title
79.24
Acquisition Fee
700.00
Tax on Collected Items
122.25
Capitalized Initial Fees
489.51
Total Cap
44,391.99
Trade Allowance
-12,000.00
Estimated Trade Payoff
11,000.00
Rebate Savings
-500.00
Net Cap
42,891.99
Base Payment
452.62
Monthly Tax
36.89
36 Month Payment
489.51
Capitalized Initial Fees
-489.51
1st Payment
489.51
Due On Delivery
0.00
Rate
0.0007
Annual Miles
10,000
Residual % [45,063]
60+3=63%
Residual Amount
28,389.69
Tax: 8.15% TAX
8.15 %
Lease Payments include: LOH PROTECTION $151, TINT $350
I'm in Washoe county. I hope this helps! $700 for doc fees does sound a bit outrageous.
Thanks in advance
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Down in Miami, florida for a 2016 is200t f sport w/o nav
$42,749 MSRP
$36,100 Sales price
62% Residual
.00075 MF
36months/12k miles
Acquisition fee is $700.
Florida? Watch out for big dealer doc fees.
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2016 IS300 AWD base (10 miles on it) purchase in kansas for Missouri resident.
36 Months
10k Miles
Cash Down: $3.500
$496month (sales taxes, etc included)
MF 00160
Side note, I pay personal property tax as well... is that normal on a Lease?!?
Is the $3500 used to lower the cap cost or to cover the up front taxes and fees? Get a breakdown of that.
What is the tax rate in Missouri?
You pay personal property tax on a lease, as well (at least, I do here in Colorado).
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I presumed based on our conversations the 3500 was used to lower cap cost, but they confirmed the $496 was inclusive of all taxes and fees. I can try and get a better breakdown, though. They said the MF was non-negotiable, are they blowing smoke? Outside the $795 you mentioned, i want to make sure i'm not getting washed here and can negotiate some things down to a more reasonable level.