2016 Mercedes C Class Lease Questions

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  • recolettirecoletti Member Posts: 2
    Hi could we have the Jan MF and residual numbers for 36mon 10K/12K lease on 2016 C300 4Matic? Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 252,947
    recoletti said:

    Hi could we have the Jan MF and residual numbers for 36mon 10K/12K lease on 2016 C300 4Matic? Thanks!

    Current MB numbers are set to expire today, 1/4/16. New numbers should be available later this week.

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  • socal35socal35 Member Posts: 2
    What's the today's residual numbers on 2016 C class 36 month/10K lease and the money factor?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 254,332
    socal35 said:

    What's the today's residual numbers on 2016 C class 36 month/10K lease and the money factor?

    Which C-Class model?

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  • recolettirecoletti Member Posts: 2
    Hi could we have the Jan MF and residual numbers for 36mon 10K/12K lease on 2016 C300 4Matic? Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 254,332
    recoletti said:

    Hi could we have the Jan MF and residual numbers for 36mon 10K/12K lease on 2016 C300 4Matic? Thanks!

    .00154 MF and 64%/63% residual

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  • socal35socal35 Member Posts: 2
    kyfdx said:

    socal35 said:

    What's the today's residual numbers on 2016 C class 36 month/10K lease and the money factor?

    Which C-Class model?
    It was for 2016 C 300!
    does the residual % change or the money factor change if it's not 4Matic? I'm not looking for 4Matic!
    If so can you provide the base money factor and residual for 36 month/10K per year. Thank you.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 254,332
    socal35 said:

    kyfdx said:

    socal35 said:

    What's the today's residual numbers on 2016 C class 36 month/10K lease and the money factor?

    Which C-Class model?
    It was for 2016 C 300!
    does the residual % change or the money factor change if it's not 4Matic? I'm not looking for 4Matic!
    If so can you provide the base money factor and residual for 36 month/10K per year. Thank you.
    .00152 MF and 61% residual

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  • edushopperedushopper Member Posts: 3
    Any chance you have the January numbers for a 2016 C450 36 month 12k?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 252,947

    Any chance you have the January numbers for a 2016 C450 36 month 12k?

    .00129 and 58%

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  • edushopperedushopper Member Posts: 3
    Michaell said:
    Any chance you have the January numbers for a 2016 C450 36 month 12k?
    .00129 and 58%
    Thank you for the quick response.
  • edushopperedushopper Member Posts: 3
    Michaell said:
    Any chance you have the January numbers for a 2016 C450 36 month 12k?
    .00129 and 58%
    Thank you for the quick response.
    One follow up. Does Mercedes increase residual or decrease money factor if you prepay the maintenance (forget what they call it). I remember on the Audi audicare increased the residual a percent or so. 

    Thanks again.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 252,947




    Michaell said:

    Any chance you have the January numbers for a 2016 C450 36 month 12k?

    .00129 and 58%

    Thank you for the quick response.

    One follow up. Does Mercedes increase residual or decrease money factor if you prepay the maintenance (forget what they call it). I remember on the Audi audicare increased the residual a percent or so. 

    Thanks again.

    I don't believe so.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 254,332




    Michaell said:

    Any chance you have the January numbers for a 2016 C450 36 month 12k?

    .00129 and 58%

    Thank you for the quick response.

    One follow up. Does Mercedes increase residual or decrease money factor if you prepay the maintenance (forget what they call it). I remember on the Audi audicare increased the residual a percent or so. 

    Thanks again.

    Some members have reported the maintenance cost being added to the MSRP, before calculating the residual, which has the same approximate result.

    But, that seems to be hit or miss.

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  • thutkothutko Member Posts: 15
    Hey guys thanks for this forum,

    I'm looking to lease a 2015 c300 that's a "loaner" there's two this dealership has and been in use for about 6 months.

    -What specific numbers and information do I need from them, to break this down so I'm maximizing my deal I put together?

    Appreciate it.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 254,332
    thutko said:

    Hey guys thanks for this forum,

    I'm looking to lease a 2015 c300 that's a "loaner" there's two this dealership has and been in use for about 6 months.

    -What specific numbers and information do I need from them, to break this down so I'm maximizing my deal I put together?

    Appreciate it.

    It's no different than leasing a new car, except there will be a residual adjustment (downward) to account for the existing mileage. There also should be an extra saving in selling price to account for that residual adjustment, relative to a new car. If not, why lease a loaner?

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  • Patelshivam94Patelshivam94 Member Posts: 61
    Can I get the January numbers please for 2016 C-Class & C-Class Sport. 12k miles per year; favorable terms.

    Thanks, in advance.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 254,332

    Can I get the January numbers please for 2016 C-Class & C-Class Sport. 12k miles per year; favorable terms.

    Thanks, in advance.

    Which C-Class model?

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  • Patelshivam94Patelshivam94 Member Posts: 61
    kyfdx said:

    Can I get the January numbers please for 2016 C-Class & C-Class Sport. 12k miles per year; favorable terms.

    Thanks, in advance.

    Which C-Class model?
    Both C300 and C450 sedans would be appreciated.

    Thank You.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 252,947

    kyfdx said:

    Can I get the January numbers please for 2016 C-Class & C-Class Sport. 12k miles per year; favorable terms.

    Thanks, in advance.

    Which C-Class model?
    Both C300 and C450 sedans would be appreciated.

    Thank You.
    C300 RWD - .00152 and 62%
    C300 4Matic - .00154 and 63%
    C450 - .00129 and 58%

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  • vittyvitty Member Posts: 8
    Hi,
    Could use some insight into the following lease deal being presented to me:

    2016 C300 4matic sport
    MSRP: $59375
    $4000 cash due at delivery(includes 1st mo. payment)
    $658/mo on a 12k mile/yr 36 month lease
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 254,332
    vitty said:

    Hi,
    Could use some insight into the following lease deal being presented to me:

    2016 C300 4matic sport
    MSRP: $59375
    $4000 cash due at delivery(includes 1st mo. payment)
    $658/mo on a 12k mile/yr 36 month lease

    .00154 MF and 63% residual.

    Need a selling price to calculate a lease payment

    Also, does that price include tax? If so, what rate and which state?

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  • vittyvitty Member Posts: 8
    kyfdx said:

    vitty said:

    Hi,
    Could use some insight into the following lease deal being presented to me:

    2016 C300 4matic sport
    MSRP: $59375
    $4000 cash due at delivery(includes 1st mo. payment)
    $658/mo on a 12k mile/yr 36 month lease

    .00154 MF and 63% residual.

    Need a selling price to calculate a lease payment

    Also, does that price include tax? If so, what rate and which state?
    MSRP: 59375.00
    Discount 1: 3375.00
    Vehicle Sale Price: 56000.00
    Doc Prep Fee: 75.00
    License/Title: 595.00
    Acquisition Fee: 1095.00
    Tax on Collected Items: 1707.75
    Total Cap: 59472.75
    Down/Cap Reduction: 3341.09
    Rebate Discount: 1250.00
    Net Cap: 54,881.66
    Rate: .00188
    Residual 63%
    Tax: MN 7.275% (included in monthly lease payment)
    36 Month Payment: 658.91

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 252,947
    I'm
    vitty said:

    kyfdx said:

    vitty said:

    Hi,
    Could use some insight into the following lease deal being presented to me:

    2016 C300 4matic sport
    MSRP: $59375
    $4000 cash due at delivery(includes 1st mo. payment)
    $658/mo on a 12k mile/yr 36 month lease

    .00154 MF and 63% residual.

    Need a selling price to calculate a lease payment

    Also, does that price include tax? If so, what rate and which state?
    MSRP: 59375.00
    Discount 1: 3375.00
    Vehicle Sale Price: 56000.00
    Doc Prep Fee: 75.00
    License/Title: 595.00
    Acquisition Fee: 1095.00
    Tax on Collected Items: 1707.75
    Total Cap: 59472.75
    Down/Cap Reduction: 3341.09
    Rebate Discount: 1250.00
    Net Cap: 54,881.66
    Rate: .00188
    Residual 63%
    Tax: MN 7.275% (included in monthly lease payment)
    36 Month Payment: 658.91

    I'm within pennies of that amount, using your numbers (rounding errors, I'm sure).

    However, the MF bump is adding $30/mo to your payment, and the acquisition fee is marked up from $795 (another $8/mo). So, room to improve on this deal.

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  • vittyvitty Member Posts: 8
    Michaell said:

    I'm

    vitty said:

    kyfdx said:

    vitty said:

    Hi,
    Could use some insight into the following lease deal being presented to me:

    2016 C300 4matic sport
    MSRP: $59375
    $4000 cash due at delivery(includes 1st mo. payment)
    $658/mo on a 12k mile/yr 36 month lease

    .00154 MF and 63% residual.

    Need a selling price to calculate a lease payment

    Also, does that price include tax? If so, what rate and which state?
    MSRP: 59375.00
    Discount 1: 3375.00
    Vehicle Sale Price: 56000.00
    Doc Prep Fee: 75.00
    License/Title: 595.00
    Acquisition Fee: 1095.00
    Tax on Collected Items: 1707.75
    Total Cap: 59472.75
    Down/Cap Reduction: 3341.09
    Rebate Discount: 1250.00
    Net Cap: 54,881.66
    Rate: .00188
    Residual 63%
    Tax: MN 7.275% (included in monthly lease payment)
    36 Month Payment: 658.91

    I'm within pennies of that amount, using your numbers (rounding errors, I'm sure).

    However, the MF bump is adding $30/mo to your payment, and the acquisition fee is marked up from $795 (another $8/mo). So, room to improve on this deal.
    Thanks. This vehicle is one that my dealership has to do a swap with another dealership out of state for. Is there typically a markup seen when they do that? They are also doing an 8 month pull-ahead on my current lease.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 252,947
    vitty said:

    Michaell said:

    I'm

    vitty said:

    kyfdx said:

    vitty said:

    Hi,
    Could use some insight into the following lease deal being presented to me:

    2016 C300 4matic sport
    MSRP: $59375
    $4000 cash due at delivery(includes 1st mo. payment)
    $658/mo on a 12k mile/yr 36 month lease

    .00154 MF and 63% residual.

    Need a selling price to calculate a lease payment

    Also, does that price include tax? If so, what rate and which state?
    MSRP: 59375.00
    Discount 1: 3375.00
    Vehicle Sale Price: 56000.00
    Doc Prep Fee: 75.00
    License/Title: 595.00
    Acquisition Fee: 1095.00
    Tax on Collected Items: 1707.75
    Total Cap: 59472.75
    Down/Cap Reduction: 3341.09
    Rebate Discount: 1250.00
    Net Cap: 54,881.66
    Rate: .00188
    Residual 63%
    Tax: MN 7.275% (included in monthly lease payment)
    36 Month Payment: 658.91

    I'm within pennies of that amount, using your numbers (rounding errors, I'm sure).

    However, the MF bump is adding $30/mo to your payment, and the acquisition fee is marked up from $795 (another $8/mo). So, room to improve on this deal.
    Thanks. This vehicle is one that my dealership has to do a swap with another dealership out of state for. Is there typically a markup seen when they do that? They are also doing an 8 month pull-ahead on my current lease.
    Are you sure they are waiving the remaining payments on your lease? Perhaps part of that $4000 due at signing is covering those.

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  • vittyvitty Member Posts: 8
    Michaell said:

    vitty said:

    Michaell said:

    I'm

    vitty said:

    kyfdx said:

    vitty said:

    Hi,
    Could use some insight into the following lease deal being presented to me:

    2016 C300 4matic sport
    MSRP: $59375
    $4000 cash due at delivery(includes 1st mo. payment)
    $658/mo on a 12k mile/yr 36 month lease

    .00154 MF and 63% residual.

    Need a selling price to calculate a lease payment

    Also, does that price include tax? If so, what rate and which state?
    MSRP: 59375.00
    Discount 1: 3375.00
    Vehicle Sale Price: 56000.00
    Doc Prep Fee: 75.00
    License/Title: 595.00
    Acquisition Fee: 1095.00
    Tax on Collected Items: 1707.75
    Total Cap: 59472.75
    Down/Cap Reduction: 3341.09
    Rebate Discount: 1250.00
    Net Cap: 54,881.66
    Rate: .00188
    Residual 63%
    Tax: MN 7.275% (included in monthly lease payment)
    36 Month Payment: 658.91

    I'm within pennies of that amount, using your numbers (rounding errors, I'm sure).

    However, the MF bump is adding $30/mo to your payment, and the acquisition fee is marked up from $795 (another $8/mo). So, room to improve on this deal.
    Thanks. This vehicle is one that my dealership has to do a swap with another dealership out of state for. Is there typically a markup seen when they do that? They are also doing an 8 month pull-ahead on my current lease.
    Are you sure they are waiving the remaining payments on your lease? Perhaps part of that $4000 due at signing is covering those.
    They claim they are waving them. The 4000 down I believe to be paying the fees/tax/title and first months payment.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 252,947
    vitty said:

    Michaell said:

    vitty said:

    Michaell said:

    I'm

    vitty said:

    kyfdx said:

    vitty said:

    Hi,
    Could use some insight into the following lease deal being presented to me:

    2016 C300 4matic sport
    MSRP: $59375
    $4000 cash due at delivery(includes 1st mo. payment)
    $658/mo on a 12k mile/yr 36 month lease

    .00154 MF and 63% residual.

    Need a selling price to calculate a lease payment

    Also, does that price include tax? If so, what rate and which state?
    MSRP: 59375.00
    Discount 1: 3375.00
    Vehicle Sale Price: 56000.00
    Doc Prep Fee: 75.00
    License/Title: 595.00
    Acquisition Fee: 1095.00
    Tax on Collected Items: 1707.75
    Total Cap: 59472.75
    Down/Cap Reduction: 3341.09
    Rebate Discount: 1250.00
    Net Cap: 54,881.66
    Rate: .00188
    Residual 63%
    Tax: MN 7.275% (included in monthly lease payment)
    36 Month Payment: 658.91

    I'm within pennies of that amount, using your numbers (rounding errors, I'm sure).

    However, the MF bump is adding $30/mo to your payment, and the acquisition fee is marked up from $795 (another $8/mo). So, room to improve on this deal.
    Thanks. This vehicle is one that my dealership has to do a swap with another dealership out of state for. Is there typically a markup seen when they do that? They are also doing an 8 month pull-ahead on my current lease.
    Are you sure they are waiving the remaining payments on your lease? Perhaps part of that $4000 due at signing is covering those.
    They claim they are waving them. The 4000 down I believe to be paying the fees/tax/title and first months payment.
    Yes, but your earlier message indicated $3341.09 of cap reduction, not up front costs.

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  • slate183slate183 Member Posts: 4

    Just signed a deal in Southern NJ.

    2016 C300 sport - $53k MSRP
    Discount: $7500 off MSRP

    Due at signing: $1550
    Monthly payment: $460.00 including 7% NJ Tax
    10k miles, 36 months

    Make sure you get the Auto pay MF: 0.00144
    (this helped lower payments)


    Thank you for all the help in this forum.

    Loving the car:)

    PM me if you need dealer details.

    Which dealer did you get this deal at? It seems like a great deal.
  • ddaniels1ddaniels1 Member Posts: 8
    Hello everyone,

    I am new to this forum and to leasing but think I have the terminology down now (hopefully). I am trying to find out what I should be asking the dealer when negotiating a lease. Ideally I would like to put 0 down and pay under $500 a month is this possible? I live in South Florida.

    I do not have tier 1 credit and I have looked at the national deal which is 399/month with $4500 due at signing. It is based on an MSRP of 41,000. Can you tell me what I should do next or if a CLA is more plausible. Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 252,947
    ddaniels1 said:

    Hello everyone,

    I am new to this forum and to leasing but think I have the terminology down now (hopefully). I am trying to find out what I should be asking the dealer when negotiating a lease. Ideally I would like to put 0 down and pay under $500 a month is this possible? I live in South Florida.

    I do not have tier 1 credit and I have looked at the national deal which is 399/month with $4500 due at signing. It is based on an MSRP of 41,000. Can you tell me what I should do next or if a CLA is more plausible. Thanks!

    You might want to review the articles at this link ... lots of helpful information:

    http://www.edmunds.com/car-leasing/

    Hard to say what you will be able to negotiate with less than tier 1 credit - that will affect the money factor.

    The national deal is just OK, but we don't recommend making a down payment.

    CLA will almost certainly be more affordable.

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  • chhz2012chhz2012 Member Posts: 7
    All, just got an offer on the 2016 C300 sedan, MSRP $42719, DISCOUNT $6000, Drive Off price $39427
    Asking for 36 months leasing terms, need me to put down $4000 (tax included), and $453 per month.

    It looks like a very unreasonable leasing deal. I asked for the MF and residual, which MF is 0.00252 and residual is 62%.

    Can anyone suggest if MF 0.00252 is a reasonable?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 252,947
    chhz2012 said:

    All, just got an offer on the 2016 C300 sedan, MSRP $42719, DISCOUNT $6000, Drive Off price $39427
    Asking for 36 months leasing terms, need me to put down $4000 (tax included), and $453 per month.

    It looks like a very unreasonable leasing deal. I asked for the MF and residual, which MF is 0.00252 and residual is 62%.

    Can anyone suggest if MF 0.00252 is a reasonable?

    Base MF for the C300 RWD is .00152. 62% is the 36/12 residual.

    What state and tax rate is this?

    What is the breakdown of the $4000 due at lease signing?

    Agreed, is not a good deal.

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  • chhz2012chhz2012 Member Posts: 7
    Michaell said:

    chhz2012 said:

    All, just got an offer on the 2016 C300 sedan, MSRP $42719, DISCOUNT $6000, Drive Off price $39427
    Asking for 36 months leasing terms, need me to put down $4000 (tax included), and $453 per month.

    It looks like a very unreasonable leasing deal. I asked for the MF and residual, which MF is 0.00252 and residual is 62%.

    Can anyone suggest if MF 0.00252 is a reasonable?

    Base MF for the C300 RWD is .00152. 62% is the 36/12 residual.

    What state and tax rate is this?

    What is the breakdown of the $4000 due at lease signing?

    Agreed, is not a good deal.
    Thanks for your reply.

    I am in Texas, The $4000 down include 2372$ tax and 336.35 fees the rest is down payment. What do you think is the reasonable lease offer based on this car?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 252,947
    chhz2012 said:

    Michaell said:

    chhz2012 said:

    All, just got an offer on the 2016 C300 sedan, MSRP $42719, DISCOUNT $6000, Drive Off price $39427
    Asking for 36 months leasing terms, need me to put down $4000 (tax included), and $453 per month.

    It looks like a very unreasonable leasing deal. I asked for the MF and residual, which MF is 0.00252 and residual is 62%.

    Can anyone suggest if MF 0.00252 is a reasonable?

    Base MF for the C300 RWD is .00152. 62% is the 36/12 residual.

    What state and tax rate is this?

    What is the breakdown of the $4000 due at lease signing?

    Agreed, is not a good deal.
    Thanks for your reply.

    I am in Texas, The $4000 down include 2372$ tax and 336.35 fees the rest is down payment. What do you think is the reasonable lease offer based on this car?
    Ah, that does change things. Texas is one of only a few states that charges sales tax against the entire selling price.

    Where is the bank fee in the up front cash? That alone is $795, if not marked up by the dealer.

    I don't track selling prices - you can read back through the last page or two of this discussion to see what others have been able to negotiate, or use the 'make / model / year' pull downs at the top of the page to link to the price tools.

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  • maddogjtsmaddogjts Member Posts: 8
    Hows my lease math?

    2016 C300 RWD
    MSRP $55,395
    Selling Price $49,989

    12K/ 36 month

    I will pay sales tax, license and fees with cash down. Nothing rolled into the lease

    $563/month
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 254,332
    maddogjts said:

    Hows my lease math?

    2016 C300 RWD
    MSRP $55,395
    Selling Price $49,989

    12K/ 36 month

    I will pay sales tax, license and fees with cash down. Nothing rolled into the lease

    $563/month

    .00152 MF and 62% residual.

    Right on the money.

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  • maddogjtsmaddogjts Member Posts: 8
    I think I used  .00118 and 60%

    are .00152 and 62% the correct #'s ?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 252,947
    maddogjts said:

    I think I used  .00118 and 60%

    are .00152 and 62% the correct #'s ?

    Yes

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  • maddogjtsmaddogjts Member Posts: 8
    Thanks guys !!  :)
  • vs77vs77 Member Posts: 24
    is it true that you cannot use MSD with C300 4Matic leases? i am working with the dealer and he mentioned that this month you cannot use MSD. Am in IL

    what other incentives can i avail to?
  • maddogjtsmaddogjts Member Posts: 8
    one last question....the MF of .00152....is that for tier 1 credit only?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 252,947
    vs77 said:

    is it true that you cannot use MSD with C300 4Matic leases? i am working with the dealer and he mentioned that this month you cannot use MSD. Am in IL

    what other incentives can i avail to?

    We've heard that MSDs are only available on standard MF, but others have posted otherwise. So, we aren't really sure.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 252,947
    maddogjts said:

    one last question....the MF of .00152....is that for tier 1 credit only?

    Yes

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  • rtwickrtwick Member Posts: 3
    Hi,
    first time looking for a lease on a 2016 C300 4matics 36 month 15k miles/year. I'm in PA. Below is a quote I received. Is this a good lease price?

    MSRP: 53940
    Purchase price (after discounts) : 46788
    Lease: $2100 down (includes all fees and first month payment) $552/month or $3100 down $522/month or $4100 down $491/month
    Lease disposition fee $595
    residual 61% ($32903.40)

    Is this a good deal? I'm thinking of going with the $2100 down option.

    Thanks
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 252,947
    rtwick said:

    Hi,
    first time looking for a lease on a 2016 C300 4matics 36 month 15k miles/year. I'm in PA. Below is a quote I received. Is this a good lease price?

    MSRP: 53940
    Purchase price (after discounts) : 46788
    Lease: $2100 down (includes all fees and first month payment) $552/month or $3100 down $522/month or $4100 down $491/month
    Lease disposition fee $595
    residual 61% ($32903.40)

    Is this a good deal? I'm thinking of going with the $2100 down option.

    Thanks

    If the $2100 includes all fees, and the $46,788 is the net cap cost, that calculates out to a pre-tax payment of $508/mo, so pretty close to the $552/mo quote (assuming tax is 9%).

    If you are comfortable with the purchase price, no reason not to sign the deal.

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  • rtwickrtwick Member Posts: 3
    Yes tax is 9% and 2100 covers all fees. 
    Thanks for confirming. Will sign the deal.
  • jzcarr25jzcarr25 Member Posts: 26
    Hi

    Can you please post the latest lease rates on the c63 S and c63? 10k year / 36 months

    Thanks !
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 252,947
    jzcarr25 said:

    Hi

    Can you please post the latest lease rates on the c63 S and c63? 10k year / 36 months

    Thanks !

    Standard MF and 53% (C63) or 50% (C63S)

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  • jzcarr25jzcarr25 Member Posts: 26
    OUCH on the residual, thanks for the info
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