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  • mmccaskillmmccaskill Member Posts: 8
    I thought each security deposit is equal to one monthly payment rounded up to the nearest $50. In the case not sure how $2k translates into that MSD but I get the idea.
  • sebzx79sebzx79 Member Posts: 53
    Use the 2000 for MSD s and if you have more cash use that to max them out. Your return on that money is more then any hedge fund out there. 
  • ediaz6284ediaz6284 Member Posts: 5
    Sir, can you please give me the payment particulars with the following variables?

    2016 C300 RWD
    MSRP 46,140
    Discount from dealer 6,000
    lease for 3 years @ 15K miles
    I am in Texas so I believe the 6.25% tax on entire amount applies.

    Thank you,

    Edgar
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,993
    ediaz6284 said:

    Sir, can you please give me the payment particulars with the following variables?

    2016 C300 RWD
    MSRP 46,140
    Discount from dealer 6,000
    lease for 3 years @ 15K miles
    I am in Texas so I believe the 6.25% tax on entire amount applies.

    Thank you,

    Edgar

    .00152 and 60%

    Using the cap cost of $42,649 (MSRP less discount plus sales tax), I get a payment of $524/mo.

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  • sebzx79sebzx79 Member Posts: 53
    You can save your self 60 dollars a month by using autopay and 10 MSDs
  • anilpunjabi1anilpunjabi1 Member Posts: 7
    deal I have so far tax is 6% but in PA they do 1.5x tax so its 9%

    c300 4 matic luxury
    P2 package
    Interior package
    lighting package
    pano roof
    parking package
    driver assistance
    designo red
    rear side airbag
    heated steering wheel

    MSRP 57925 or such
    cap cost reduction is: 51200 including maintenance(transplates to i think like 7700 plus 995 for maintanece)
    mf he quoted me was 0.166 and i know it should be 0.154
    residual is either 64% i belive
    we are doing 10 msd and autopay but he is quoting me a mf without autopay of 0.00096
    acquisition fee is 1095 which i know is 795
    with 10 msd for 36 months 12k/year we are getting at 513 and with my adjusted mf i am getting 495 a month
    due at signing is 1 mo plus 5500 in msd and 1095 for acquisition and few fees totalling 7400
    I am gonna push him to go down to 460 which is another 1000 off in cap cost reduction
    Anyone know if any fleet discount codes
    was looking at the Audi a4 2017

    advice on deal would be appreciated as tomorrow is last day of the month and we will probably pull the trigger
    a 58000 car for 460.mo seems decent
  • sebzx79sebzx79 Member Posts: 53
    If you can get mf down to .00074 thats about 20 bucks.


  • sebzx79sebzx79 Member Posts: 53
    12k residual is 63%
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,671

    deal I have so far tax is 6% but in PA they do 1.5x tax so its 9%

    c300 4 matic luxury
    P2 package
    Interior package
    lighting package
    pano roof
    parking package
    driver assistance
    designo red
    rear side airbag
    heated steering wheel

    MSRP 57925 or such
    cap cost reduction is: 51200 including maintenance(transplates to i think like 7700 plus 995 for maintanece)
    mf he quoted me was 0.166 and i know it should be 0.154
    residual is either 64% i belive
    we are doing 10 msd and autopay but he is quoting me a mf without autopay of 0.00096
    acquisition fee is 1095 which i know is 795
    with 10 msd for 36 months 12k/year we are getting at 513 and with my adjusted mf i am getting 495 a month
    due at signing is 1 mo plus 5500 in msd and 1095 for acquisition and few fees totalling 7400
    I am gonna push him to go down to 460 which is another 1000 off in cap cost reduction
    Anyone know if any fleet discount codes
    was looking at the Audi a4 2017

    advice on deal would be appreciated as tomorrow is last day of the month and we will probably pull the trigger
    a 58000 car for 460.mo seems decent

    So, MSDs + $1900 upfront? And, $460/mo? Yeah, seems good.

    One note. PA tax isn't 1.5X, it's an extra 3%. So, if your local rate is 6%, it's 9% on a lease. If it's 7%, it's 10% on a lease.

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  • sebzx79sebzx79 Member Posts: 53
    Philadelphia is 11% outside of city its 8%
  • anilpunjabi1anilpunjabi1 Member Posts: 7

    deal I have so far tax is 6% but in PA they do 1.5x tax so its 9%

    c300 4 matic luxury
    P2 package
    Interior package
    lighting package
    pano roof
    parking package
    driver assistance
    designo red
    rear side airbag
    heated steering wheel

    MSRP 57925 or such
    cap cost reduction is: 51200 including maintenance(transplates to i think like 7700 plus 995 for maintanece)
    mf he quoted me was 0.166 and i know it should be 0.154
    residual is either 64% i belive
    we are doing 10 msd and autopay but he is quoting me a mf without autopay of 0.00096
    acquisition fee is 1095 which i know is 795
    with 10 msd for 36 months 12k/year we are getting at 513 and with my adjusted mf i am getting 495 a month
    due at signing is 1 mo plus 5500 in msd and 1095 for acquisition and few fees totalling 7400
    I am gonna push him to go down to 460 which is another 1000 off in cap cost reduction
    Anyone know if any fleet discount codes
    was looking at the Audi a4 2017

    advice on deal would be appreciated as tomorrow is last day of the month and we will probably pull the trigger
    a 58000 car for 460.mo seems decent

    So rhe dealer would not budge on any of the constraints and we needed the car in two weeks - we could have waited but other dealers were not giving us anything better - i think we hit near rock bottom bc they def are discounting off sticker - its just an expensive car by the sticker - 10 years ago we bought a lexus gs430 for 49k and now this car stickered for 58 k

    overall deal

    msrp 57900
    cap cost: 51200
    mf after 10 msd 0.00095
    36 months 12k/year
    monthly 517 per month
  • cuznvin1cuznvin1 Member Posts: 74
    any changes on the MF and Residuals for may? 36/12 4 matic
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,993
    cuznvin1 said:

    any changes on the MF and Residuals for may? 36/12 4 matic

    New numbers due later this week.

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  • skibirdskibird Member Posts: 14
    Any update on C63s residuals and MF for May for 3/30k? Thanks. 
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,993
    skibird said:

    Any update on C63s residuals and MF for May for 3/30k? Thanks. 

    Standard MF and 50%

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  • shibikotshibikot Member Posts: 5
    Hi,
    Could you please share May residual and MF for 2016 C300, non-4matic, 10k miles per year.  

    Dealer is quoting 64% and 0.00199 MF for 10k/39mo. The MF looks high. 
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,993
    shibikot said:

    Hi,
    Could you please share May residual and MF for 2016 C300, non-4matic, 10k miles per year.  

    Dealer is quoting 64% and 0.00199 MF for 10k/39mo. The MF looks high. 

    .00152 and 63% for 36/10.

    No 39 month program from MBFS ... could this be a third party lease through a different bank?

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  • shibikotshibikot Member Posts: 5
    Will ask him what financing party he's using. After some negotiations, i've got the MF down to 0.00175 with 64% residual.

    Any feedback on the following deal is greatly appreciated:

    2016 C300 4Matic
    MSRP: 55,135
    Selling Price: 48,152
    Aquisition fee: 795
    Net Cap Cost: 48,947
    Residual: 64%
    MF: 0.00175
    Term: 39Mo/10K miles per year
    NC Tax: 3%

    Total Monthly: $516 including tax

    When I plug the numbers in, I get $513, which is close enough. I feel the selling price is fair, but the MF is jacked up too much, based on feedback from Michael.







  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,993
    shibikot said:

    Will ask him what financing party he's using. After some negotiations, i've got the MF down to 0.00175 with 64% residual.

    Any feedback on the following deal is greatly appreciated:

    2016 C300 4Matic
    MSRP: 55,135
    Selling Price: 48,152
    Aquisition fee: 795
    Net Cap Cost: 48,947
    Residual: 64%
    MF: 0.00175
    Term: 39Mo/10K miles per year
    NC Tax: 3%

    Total Monthly: $516 including tax

    When I plug the numbers in, I get $513, which is close enough. I feel the selling price is fair, but the MF is jacked up too much, based on feedback from Michael.

    Politely but firmly tell them you won't sign a deal with an inflated MF.

    Then reach out to other MB dealers - use them against one another.

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  • justusbjustusb Member Posts: 10
    Hi,

    My question is for a 2016 C450 lease for 36 months / 15k miles
    What is the MF and residual?
    Is it possible for the monthly payments to be increased by the gap insurance?
    What is the standard value for the acquisition and disposition fees?
    What is the lease cash for May if any?
    What is the MF used by MBFS for a single-pay lease?

    Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,993
    justusb said:

    Hi,

    My question is for a 2016 C450 lease for 36 months / 15k miles
    What is the MF and residual?
    Is it possible for the monthly payments to be increased by the gap insurance?
    What is the standard value for the acquisition and disposition fees?
    What is the lease cash for May if any?
    What is the MF used by MBFS for a single-pay lease?

    Thanks!

    .00129 and 56%
    GAP is included in all MBFS leases
    Acquisition fee is $795; I don't know the disposition fee
    No information on incentives from MB
    I don't know the discount on the MF for a single pay lease

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  • justusbjustusb Member Posts: 10
    Michaell said:

    justusb said:

    Hi,

    My question is for a 2016 C450 lease for 36 months / 15k miles
    What is the MF and residual?
    Is it possible for the monthly payments to be increased by the gap insurance?
    What is the standard value for the acquisition and disposition fees?
    What is the lease cash for May if any?
    What is the MF used by MBFS for a single-pay lease?

    Thanks!

    .00129 and 56%
    GAP is included in all MBFS leases
    Acquisition fee is $795; I don't know the disposition fee
    No information on incentives from MB
    I don't know the discount on the MF for a single pay lease
    Many thanks for the very quick response! It will be very helpful for me. Can the prepaid maintenance be added to the MSRP so that it is residualized?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,993
    justusb said:

    Michaell said:

    justusb said:

    Hi,

    My question is for a 2016 C450 lease for 36 months / 15k miles
    What is the MF and residual?
    Is it possible for the monthly payments to be increased by the gap insurance?
    What is the standard value for the acquisition and disposition fees?
    What is the lease cash for May if any?
    What is the MF used by MBFS for a single-pay lease?

    Thanks!

    .00129 and 56%
    GAP is included in all MBFS leases
    Acquisition fee is $795; I don't know the disposition fee
    No information on incentives from MB
    I don't know the discount on the MF for a single pay lease
    Many thanks for the very quick response! It will be very helpful for me. Can the prepaid maintenance be added to the MSRP so that it is residualized?
    We've heard it done both ways; check with your dealer.

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  • fandorin1fandorin1 Member Posts: 6
    Thanks in advance for any help! Just got the following deal from a dealer in NJ. I am based in Staten Island, NY

    C300
    MSRP $49,060
    Selling Price $42,158
    MF: 0,00169 (claims to have a quarter markup on the MF and also claims this would already be auto-pay)
    Inceptions $1864.98
    $0 out of pocket: $528
    Inception out of pocket: $470
    36/10K lease

    came along with " this is a one shot type of price, best price upfront from me and a fantastic deal!" :))

    Question: is it? :smile:

    Thank you in advance!!!
  • sebzx79sebzx79 Member Posts: 53
    According to the numbers you gave it all looks good. I would push for MF of .00154 and then I would do 10 msd if you can it would bring your payment to about 445 with only MSDs. 
    If you don't want to do MSDs  push for .00144 ( autopay) will save you about 20 bucks.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,993
    fandorin1 said:

    Thanks in advance for any help! Just got the following deal from a dealer in NJ. I am based in Staten Island, NY

    C300
    MSRP $49,060
    Selling Price $42,158
    MF: 0,00169 (claims to have a quarter markup on the MF and also claims this would already be auto-pay)
    Inceptions $1864.98
    $0 out of pocket: $528
    Inception out of pocket: $470
    36/10K lease

    came along with " this is a one shot type of price, best price upfront from me and a fantastic deal!" :))

    Question: is it? :smile:

    Thank you in advance!!!

    Is this RWD or 4Matic?

    Is it me or does this line not make much sense:

    $0 out of pocket: $528

    (it's late and I'm tired - what am I missing here?)

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  • fandorin1fandorin1 Member Posts: 6
    Michaell said:

    fandorin1 said:


    C300
    MSRP $49,060
    Selling Price $42,158
    MF: 0,00169 (claims to have a quarter markup on the MF and also claims this would already be auto-pay)
    Inceptions $1864.98
    $0 out of pocket: $528
    Inception out of pocket: $470
    36/10K lease

    Is this RWD or 4Matic?

    Is it me or does this line not make much sense:

    $0 out of pocket: $528

    (it's late and I'm tired - what am I missing here?)


    Michael, thank you for your time.

    1. It is 4Matic
    2. By $0 out of pocket - $528 I mean nothing down - the monthly payment is $528 or if I put the inception fees ($1864.98) - than the monthly payment is $470

    At least this is how he explained to me.

    Should/can I push down more? Is it a good deal?

    Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,993
    fandorin1 said:

    Michaell said:

    fandorin1 said:


    C300
    MSRP $49,060
    Selling Price $42,158
    MF: 0,00169 (claims to have a quarter markup on the MF and also claims this would already be auto-pay)
    Inceptions $1864.98
    $0 out of pocket: $528
    Inception out of pocket: $470
    36/10K lease

    Is this RWD or 4Ma
    Is it me or does this line not make much sense:

    $0 out of pocket: $528

    (it's late and I'm tired - what am I missing here?)


    Michael, thank you for your time.

    1. It is 4Matic
    2. By $0 out of pocket - $528 I mean nothing down - the monthly payment is $528 or if I put the inception fees ($1864.98) - than the monthly payment is $470

    At least this is how he explained to me.

    Should/can I push down more? Is it a good deal?

    Thanks!
    Ah! I get it now - thank you for the clarification.

    .00154 and 64%. Deduct .00010 for AutoPay (.00144). The bump from the dealer is for more profit.

    Politely tell them you won't sign a deal with an inflated MF.

    I get $412/mo with your numbers, as is. Before tax. Using the base MF. With $0 at signing.

    Does the inceptions amount include sales tax? What state and tax rate is this?

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  • fandorin1fandorin1 Member Posts: 6
    He said "inception include: first month, plates and reg, and luxury tax. " I am based in NYC (Staten Island) and the dealership is in NJ. I just asked him if there are any other taxes he didn't mention.

    I initially very gently pushed him in the MF and he said that the $7k discount on MSRP is more than offset by the "bump in MF" :))) I realize he is making money, but just giving you all the information.

    Attached is the car config.


  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,993
    fandorin1 said:

    He said "inception include: first month, plates and reg, and luxury tax. " I am based in NYC (Staten Island) and the dealership is in NJ. I just asked him if there are any other taxes he didn't mention.

    I initially very gently pushed him in the MF and he said that the $7k discount on MSRP is more than offset by the "bump in MF" :))) I realize he is making money, but just giving you all the information.

    Attached is the car config.


    The dealer isn't wrong - they are in the business of making money, so they'll often tell you that.

    And, why not use a NY dealer? The doc fee is capped at $75 in NY, whereas in NJ it can run several hundred dollars.

    Can't' hurt to reach out to other dealers and get them to negotiate against one another.

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  • fandorin1fandorin1 Member Posts: 6
    I have one dealer in Brooklyn that is not very responsive and I need a car relatively fast. So should I just push for lower MF to drop monthly by $20. This way everyone is makes a little? This dealer also has my color request combo. (Now I just sound like I am trying to convince myself:))
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,993
    fandorin1 said:

    I have one dealer in Brooklyn that is not very responsive and I need a car relatively fast. So should I just push for lower MF to drop monthly by $20. This way everyone is makes a little? This dealer also has my color request combo. (Now I just sound like I am trying to convince myself:))

    Tough position to be in, for sure.

    When shopping in this price range, you want the exact vehicle (color, equipment, etc.). Unfortunately, that limits the dealers who have what you want. And, the dealer knows it.

    It can't hurt to try to negotiate the MF.

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  • chemodocchemodoc Member Posts: 11
    Can someone please provide me with the current MF and residual value for 2016 C300 4matic sedan for 36months/12K miles and 36months/10K miles?

    This is my first time considering a Mercedes lease.

    Thank you very much for any help with this.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,993
    chemodoc said:

    Can someone please provide me with the current MF and residual value for 2016 C300 4matic sedan for 36months/12K miles and 36months/10K miles?

    This is my first time considering a Mercedes lease.

    Thank you very much for any help with this.

    63% or 64% and .00154

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  • z4maudiomanz4maudioman Member Posts: 143
    Can you please provide the numbers for a 2016 C300 Sport Sedan RWD for 39mo/12k? I see MB is promoting the 39 month lease, so wondering if the MF and residual is the same as those for the 36 month term. Thanks! 
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,993

    Can you please provide the numbers for a 2016 C300 Sport Sedan RWD for 39mo/12k? I see MB is promoting the 39 month lease, so wondering if the MF and residual is the same as those for the 36 month term. Thanks! 

    .00152 and 62%. You are correct – the 39 month residual is the same as the 36 month residual for May.

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  • z4maudiomanz4maudioman Member Posts: 143
    Thanks! 

    Do you also happen to have the 36/12 and 39/12 numbers for the 2017 C300 Coupe RWD? 
  • sebzx79sebzx79 Member Posts: 53
    Going to 39 months will save you about 18 dollars a month. So combined with MSDs and auto pay that's close to 80 bucks a month.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,671

    Thanks! 

    Do you also happen to have the 36/12 and 39/12 numbers for the 2017 C300 Coupe RWD? 

    We don't have any numbers for that model, yet.

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  • riminirimini Member Posts: 31
    edited May 2016
    What are the MF and RV for C450 4Matic for 36/10K lease?

    Also, are there any lease cash incentives for C-class in May?

    Thank you,
    Gene
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,993
    rimini said:

    What are the MF and RV for C450 4Matic for 36/10K lease?

    Also, are there any lease cash incentives for C-class in May?

    Thank you,
    Gene

    .00129 and 59%

    No incentive info

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  • riminirimini Member Posts: 31
    Michaell said:
    What are the MF and RV for C450 4Matic for 36/10K lease?

    Also, are there any lease cash incentives for C-class in May?

    Thank you,
    Gene
    .00129 and 59% No incentive info
    Thank you!
  • riminirimini Member Posts: 31
    Michaell said:
    What are the MF and RV for C450 4Matic for 36/10K lease?

    Also, are there any lease cash incentives for C-class in May?

    Thank you,
    Gene
    .00129 and 59% No incentive info
    Is there a possibility to do a one payment lease and what are the benefits? Can a one payment lease be combined with MSDs?
    Thank you!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,993
    rimini said:


    Michaell said:

    rimini said:

    What are the MF and RV for C450 4Matic for 36/10K lease?

    Also, are there any lease cash incentives for C-class in May?

    Thank you,
    Gene

    .00129 and 59%

    No incentive info

    Is there a possibility to do a one payment lease and what are the benefits? Can a one payment lease be combined with MSDs?
    Thank you!

    A one pay lease discounts the MF. Not sure if one pay and MSD can be combined.

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  • riminirimini Member Posts: 31
    Michaell said:
    Michaell said:
    What are the MF and RV for C450 4Matic for 36/10K lease?

    Also, are there any lease cash incentives for C-class in May?

    Thank you,
    Gene
    .00129 and 59% No incentive info
    Is there a possibility to do a one payment lease and what are the benefits? Can a one payment lease be combined with MSDs?
    Thank you!
    A one pay lease discounts the MF. Not sure if one pay and MSD can be combined.
    Yes, but by how much exactly is MF discounted with a one payment lease?
    Thanks
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,993
    rimini said:


    Michaell said:


    Michaell said:

    What are the MF and RV for C450 4Matic for 36/10K lease?

    Also, are there any lease cash incentives for C-class in May?

    Thank you,
    Gene
    .00129 and 59%

    No incentive info

    Is there a possibility to do a one payment lease and what are the benefits? Can a one payment lease be combined with MSDs?
    Thank you!

    A one pay lease discounts the MF. Not sure if one pay and MSD can be combined.

    Yes, but by how much exactly is MF discounted with a one payment lease?
    Thanks

    I don't have that information.

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  • calee18calee18 Member Posts: 15
    edited May 2016
    Could you please provide May MF and residual for a 2016 C300 3 yr / 36k miles in FL. Thank you in advanced!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,993
    calee18 said:

    Could you please provide May MF and residual for a 2016 C300 3 yr / 36k miles in FL. Thank you in advanced!

    RWD?

    .00152 and 62%

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