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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Drain it all out, put in a new fuel filter and you're probably good to go. If it's any comfort, it's a lot better to put diesel in a gas car, than gas in a diesel car.

    If there's not too much diesel, I might suggest just fillling up the tank and running it all through and let the car run like crap for a while, but I'm concerned about damage to the catalytic converter because I don't really know how much diesel is in there. If it were one gallon fine, but it sounds like you can get a lot of diesel into a tank in "a few minutes" of pumping.

    I'm surprised she didn't notice the green handle, very thin nozzle, the funny smell or the high price?

    Well she won't be doing THAT again.

    Before you drain anything, find out where you go to dispose of it. Don't start this job in a bad mood. :cry:
  • jaimesdadjaimesdad Member Posts: 3
    hi. just bought a 96 metro 2dr atx for my daughter and have a few questions.

    1) it has a 1.3 ltr engine and i'll be darned if i can find the fuel rail. it's supposed to have efi, but i can only find a carb. this can't be right, can it?

    2) the car is from florida and the top of the dash is very faded. how to fix?
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Question #1)

    The Throttle Body Fuel Injection (TBI) unit consists of the main bore, air and/or fuel passage, vacuum passage (for Manifold Absolute Pressure [MAP] sensor, Evaporative Emission [EVAP] control system and Exhaust Gas Recirculation [EGR] system), air induction passage and the following parts.

    * Fuel injector which injects fuel according to the signal from the Powertrain Control Module (PCM).
    * Fuel pressure regulator which maintains the fuel pressure to the fuel injector a certain amount higher than the pressure in the intake manifold.
    * Throttle valve which is interlocked with the accelerator pedal and controls the amount of air/fuel mixture drawn into the combustion chamber.
    * Idle Speed Control (ISC) motor which controls minimum throttle valve position (opening) to adjust engine idle speed.
    * Throttle Position (TP) sensor which detects the throttle valve opening and sends a signal to the PCM.

    Question #2

    Pad cover or junkyard replacement. Some say you can paint 'em but that's nasty work and I don't think it ever looks very good.
  • ppc2674ppc2674 Member Posts: 2
    I have a 97 Nissan Altima and I am trying to get it started. The motor turns but no sparks. I checked the connector to the crank start position sensor and I am suppose to get 5v out, but there is no voltage. I checked the crank start sensor and the resistance was normal about 500 ohms. I need help... How can I fix this problem? I have checked the fuses and changed the cap, rotor, wires, and spark plugs. I have not changed the distributor.
    The car was not starting so I changed the starter and it started twice. While the car was running, I checked the spark plug wires one after another from the first to the third and
    97 Nissan Altima
    4 Cylinder
    Transmission type: manual
    226K miles
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Do we have any trouble coded stored? Might give us a place to start. "No starts" can be a gazillion things.

    Crankshaft Positioning Sensor:

    COMPONENT INSPECTION

    1. Disconnect crankshaft position sensor (OBD) harness connector.
    2. Loosen the fixing bolt of the sensor.
    3. Remove the sensor.
    4. Visually check the sensor for chipping.
    5. Check resistance. Resistance: Approximately 432 - 528 ohms at 25°C (77°F)

    If ohms are good and it isn't cracked or damaged, it's probably okay.
  • pappy24319pappy24319 Member Posts: 11
    I have a 1994 Buick Regal Custom , it is a V-6 (3.1) with automactic transmission and it has 110,000 miles on it. My problem is that the fan doesn't come on when it should, it will go past 260 before the fan kicks on, I have replaced the thermostat, cooling temperature sensor, flushed the radiator and changed the fan relay. After changing these parts I drove the car for almost two weeks with no problems. Today it started doing the same thing again, please help before I get mad and send it to the crusher
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    I'd test the fan by wiring it directly to see if it works each and every time. If it does, I think you have to go after the sensors again, or the wiring harnesses that control the fan(s). It doesn't sound like bad relay behavior.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,671
    Do the fans come on when the air conditioning is on?

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • pappy24319pappy24319 Member Posts: 11
    yes the fans do come on with the AC, there are 3 sensors on that motor, 1 at the thermostat housing, 1 in the head at the back of the motor and 1 in the block at the front of the motor, Which one of these sensors sends a message to the relay to turn the fan's on? I have just restored a 69 cutlass s, I wouldn't trade that car for any that they make today. If it heats up I know what to look for. Thanks for answering me back
  • jaimesdadjaimesdad Member Posts: 3
    so, no seperate injectors for each cylinder? sounds like a carb to me.

    i have been on other sites (neon.org and mirage performance-i have/had these types of cars) and they have pics of the final results of painting and they look pretty good. don't know if i could do that well or how long the paint would last though.

    i have been looking through the local jy's around here and have had a very hard time finding things i need. '96 metro's are hard to find. a dashboard will be almost out of the question. pad cover? tell me you don't mean contact paper...lol
  • pappy24319pappy24319 Member Posts: 11
    this is for the overheating problem with the 94 buick regal 3.1. I ran a hot wire to each fan and they both work, what ever is suppose to turn the fan on at a certain temperature isn't doing it's job. The fan will come on after the gauge has gone above 260 and it is boiling. Can you tell me which one of the 3 sensors sends the message to the relay to turn the fans on, As I had said before I replaced the one at the thermostat housing but not the one in the head or block.
  • pappy24319pappy24319 Member Posts: 11
    1994 buick regal 3.1 automatic, when it rains the car won't start, I will wait 5 or 10 minutes then it will start. If it is a sensor could you please tell me were it is located?
  • kiawahkiawah Member Posts: 3,666
    If you can locate a set of online electrical schematics for your vehicle, I'll help you figure this out.

    You might try www.eautorepair.net, don't know if they have your make/model/yr or not.
  • duds01duds01 Member Posts: 1
    I have a 2001 Hyundai elantra 4cyl 5spd with 198,000 mi.Just had timing belt,tensioner,sprockets and water pump changed.Now have a new nasty whistle that seems to come from cam sprocket area.Could bearing have been damaged changing sprocket and seal?How big a job to replace cam bearing?Thanks for any input.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    kiawah is right! We'd need an electrical schematic. I'd guess one sensor to turn the fan on, one to turn it off, and one for the AC function.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    No it's not a carburetor. Throttle body injection is kind of a "transitional technology" between carburation and fuel injection. If you thought of it as a fossil record, your car would be a "missing link" in the evolution from carb to injection. :P

    It functions like a carb in that the fuel is eventually there with the air needed, but the fuel delivery is much more precise than with a fuel line/float system.

    TBI was developed for emissions reasons, mostly I think to avoid an overly rich cold start situation and of course to improve MPG

    Dash Cover -- no I mean those little "mouse fur" things you buy to cover the top of the dash.

    The Metro is an "orphan" so if I were you I'd snag a parts car, strip it of everything and then junk the carcass.
  • windsor224windsor224 Member Posts: 2
    Suddenly ALL power windows stopped working at once. What could the problem be since replacing fuses didn't work? Will this part be hard to acquire? Thanks.
  • kiawahkiawah Member Posts: 3,666
    Well you'll need to do further diagnosis to figure out what the problem really is. Typically those circuits would have a fuse, possibly a relay in the circuit, your door switches, and on older cars possibly wiring.etc.

    Verify first that none of the door switches control any of the windows.

    Would normally suspect the fuse, so verify in your owners manual exactly which fuse controls the door windows. Verify with a voltmeter that the fuse is supplying voltage to the circuit.

    Next logical point is the drivers switch, so depending on your vehicle you either need to take the switch out or possibly take off the door panel to get to the wiring of the switch. Verify with a voltmeter that you have main power to the switch, and if so, then power to the window motor when the switch is depressed.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,718
    took my 02 explorer in the 85k oil change/tire rotation. the sa called me and said both rear wheel bearing needed to be replaced.
    how do i tell? i am used to some noise from what i assume is the rear axle at certain speeds.
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Ask HIM! Based on what evidence? If the wheels is wiggling badly, that might be a good reason.

    Usually bad wheel bearings put up a hell of a racket, a low rumble/growl that of course decreases and increases as you let up or give gas. The sound will not change from "pull" to "float" as it does with bad differential gears.

    I'd certainly get a second opinion. Maybe it's in the differential or maybe it's just tire noise. A good trained ear will pick up a wheel bearing noise and discern it from other similar noises.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,718
    thanks for the reply. i'm thinking the same thing. i did notice that there weren't too many vehicles in the 'to be serviced lot' that day. my wife told me years ago, that the service dept can make work if they need it. rear diff noise is a common issue with 02 and up explorers. i had that rear diff replaced @ 70k due to noise. i can hear it at certain mph, and i can change that by changing the tire pressure in the rear tires.
    a bad bearing would be more a roaring noise than a whine.
    i did them them i thought it was tire noise. same thing they told me when i first mentioned what turned out to be the rear diff noise years earlier. :surprise:
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • bolivarbolivar Member Posts: 2,316
    Ok, I am working out of a 1993 Pontiac Silhouette (Van), 3,1L motor factory manual schemetic. This is not your car, but the same motor, one year away. And GM does the same thing for a lot of it's similar vehicles.

    This schemetic shows only one fan. It is controlled by one relay. The relay is found 'Right Hand side of Engine Compartment behind right hand composite headlight'.

    This one relay is controlled totally by the Engine Control Module (ECM). This is one of the main computer boxes. Nothing else turns the fan, via the relay, on or off.

    There are several circuits that feed the ECM to help control the fan/relay. AC pressure switch, throttle position sensor (no real use, just uses a common ground inside the ECM???), speed sensor. I assume the ECM uses these in various ways to control the fan.

    And, of course, the Engine Coolant Temp sensor feeds into the ECM. The Temp sensor is found 'Left Hand side of the engine, forward of the distributor'.

    If you have powered up the fan and it runs, there could be a problem with the relay, the temp sensor, wiring, or the ECM itself.

    On the 3.8L engine, there are two fans (a puller and a pusher), with a relay for each one. But both these relays are controlled the same way, the except via the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) not a ECM, turns them on or off, with about the same inputs into the PCM.

    If this is the same vehicle with the wet start problem, you might have wiring or ECM or PCM problems. I would try to find these control modules, which for this van are 'below right hand side of the instrument panel', and check if the plugs are firmly in place.

    I'm not going into ECM or PCM diagnotistics. I would think you might need a TECH 2 test computer to test these things.

    Is the check engine light lit? If so, you need to 'pull the code' and see if these tell you anything.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,671
    What does it do when it won't start?

    Does it crank but not run?

    Does it just turn on inside indicators but you get nothing when you turn to START?

    Does it doesn't not turn the motor over while cranking, does it dim the headlights when you turn the key to START?

    Not being familiar with that car or motor but familiar with H-bodies with 3800's, I'd suggest checking the battery connections. Turn off the automatic air conditioning first with the key ON. Then take off the negative cable and then the positive cable.

    If you have a double positive cable check very carefully between the two separate cables for corrosion. Clean everything so it's bright metal. Pull back the plastic on the ends to check for corrosion. A few cases of battery acid wicking down into the cable have had problems.

    Then check the connectors on the spark control--whatever it's properly called on your car. The 3800s have a set of three coils and under them is a box which controls the coils. Bad connections on the connectors there will act up sometimes giving no starts because of no spark.

    Because your symptom included usually having a start after 5 minutes suggests corrosion to me. Trying to start draws some current through the corroded area. It won't work then, but the warmth affects the connection through the corrosion and a few minutes later the conductivity has changed allowing it to work.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,671
    It would probably help you if you could pick up a set of factory service manuals for your 1994 Regal.

    Here's one on Ebay... FActory service manual

    Search for Regal 1994 service manual--then add the word factory if you get too many hits. The news ones are available from Helminc.com probably for about $100.

    Also, many library systems allow access to ALLDATA. Ours does. BUT I have to go to a branch and use the computer there. I assume you can go, access, and print out pages that show the circuit diagrams... and take them home.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,671
    I looked at a 93 3800 LeSabre to see how that was set up. The one sensor is in the lower intake manifold under the throttle body. The PCM controls the fans.

    I am not sure how different the ECM is from PCM, but I have read of a higher number of PCMs going bad in 1994 and 1995 H-bodies. I wonder if the ECMs have a failure rate also. Usually the problem for PCMs is that the motor runs poorly and erratically.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,671
    > it will go past 260 before the fan kicks on,

    That the fan kicks on is a good sign. But I would drive with the AC on to keep the fans running. Going that hot may lead to other problems from the high heat.

    It does point to a sensor being out-of-calibration... But which of the three sensors is really the coolant temperature sensor for the ECM?

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • pappy24319pappy24319 Member Posts: 11
    94 buick regal 3.1, all the dash lights come on but when i turn the key to start I get nothing and the headlights do not go dim. This only happens when it rains. I have went over everything in this car, I also changed the computer in it
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,671
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    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,671
    Is this the same car that's overheating?

    I still think your have a connection problem there.

    I just thought of another possibility. Does it have a security chip in the key? Does it have a security light on the dashboard that comes on when you turn the key to ON? And if it doesn't read the right chipr esistance it blinks the security light for 3 minutes before you can try again?

    If so, clean the contacts on the resistor chip. Insert the key after dipping in alcohol to get alcohol on the contacts inside the opening of the lock cylinder to try to clean them. Insert key slowly and see if the security light goes out of starts blinking. YOu might have a VATS system acting up. The contacts can be dirty or the two little wires that go down to the connector at the base of the column can break where they are flexed at the tilt wheel bending point.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • windsor224windsor224 Member Posts: 2
    Thanks so much. I really appreciate your response.
  • pappy24319pappy24319 Member Posts: 11
    I have ran a check on the sensors and also changed the ECM, still running hot. I was told that the only time that you really need the fans is when your sitting at a red light or stuck in traffic. This person said that when your going down the road that the air flow should be enough to keep your car from over heating. This car is going straight to 260 in less than a mile from my home. I'm going to feel like a fool if it is what I'm beginning to think it is, could it possibly be the water pump?
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    You mean from dead cold to 260 in one minute? Oh, if that's the case you'd better look for a bad head gasket, or at least test for it. You can test for combustion gases in the coolant. There' s a little kit you can buy. You may be driving a tea kettle here.
  • pappy24319pappy24319 Member Posts: 11
    1994 buick regal 3.1 AT , I have been working on this car all day, this is what i have come up with, the radiator is pushing anti -freeze into the overflow tank and filling it above the full mark by about 3 inches. After the thermostat opens up shouldn't it be pulling the level down instead of pushing it back? would this be a water pump or blown head gasket ?
  • kiawahkiawah Member Posts: 3,666
    When the engine is cold, the radiator is filled. You start the engine, it warms up and warms up the radiator. When the fluid gets hot it expands, blowing past the radiator cap when it gets past the stated pressure of the cap, and into the overflow tank. Radiator stays full.

    Turn the engine off, the engine cools down. As the engine and radiator cool down, the radiator sucks fluid from the expansion tank, keeping it 'topped off'.

    If you suspect a bad water pump, what you should be looking for is the fluid flowing in your radiator, once the engine warms up and the thermostat opens. If you see no fluid moving, then either your water pump is bad and not pumping, or the thermostat is defective and not opening (allowing the coolant to circulate).

    If your head gasket is bad, the cylinders would be pumping exhaust air into the coolant, thereby creating too much pressure and air, causing your cap to expel the overage into the coolant overflow tank. The exhaust air in the overflow would obviously rise to the surface and expel itself, leaving the coolant amount intact.
  • jakebrake49jakebrake49 Member Posts: 8
    I have a 2000 4.0 l 6 in a Wrangler w/ auto. Until the engine warms up the oil pressure runs about 40. When the engine warms up the pressure will drop down to about 15 psi at idle. Oil pressure goes up slightly with rpm. When running > 1500 rpm pressure runs near 40 psi. I have replace oil pump, gone from 5W20 to 10W 30 and now 10W40. No real difference. I found a high volume oil pump, any ideas? What about an oil additive. I bought this used. From different sources I get the gammut of replace the engine to don't worry about it. Do I have the only jeep with low oil pressure or are others just driving it.
  • mobyrickmobyrick Member Posts: 1
    does the Tornado (creates a vortex at the air intake) and this product, link title really work?
  • kiawahkiawah Member Posts: 3,666
    Sounds like you may have soo much wear in the engine, that you are loosing oil pressure and not getting it where you need it. Rebuilding the engine, would be the expensive solution.

    BUT FIRST, verify with an external oil pressure guage exactly what your pressure is....I would not trust the internal car gauge on something like this.
  • bolivarbolivar Member Posts: 2,316
    No.

    The only thing it does is move about $60 from your wallet to their wallet.
  • bolivarbolivar Member Posts: 2,316
    It's it nice when more information comes in? Zero to 260 in 1 minute.

    I also think it sounds like a bad head gasket. The car might not even be going into 'normal' condition before it overheats. The computer might not be expecting to see these temps this quick, so it doesn't turn the fans on.
  • bolivarbolivar Member Posts: 2,316
    How many miles are on this thing?

    15 pounds at idle is good. Most oil 'lights' don't come on until it hits 5 pounds or less.

    40 pounds at speed is good. I've got a 9,000 mile car that runs about 43pounds at 1500rpm.

    You may be worrying about nothing. If this car has quite a few miles on it (100,000+), it might be normat for it to need 1500rpm to build to 'normal', and I think 40pounds at >1500rpm is probably normal or close to it.

    I might be wrong, but I don't think 15 to 40 pounds of oil pressure in a modern motor is going to cause any damage, outside of normal wear.
  • pappy24319pappy24319 Member Posts: 11
    94 buick regal 3.1, it is a little over a minute, 7 tenths of a mile and there are a few stop signs in between. It will go to 260 and I will pull over and shut it off, after a few minutes I will start it and the fans will come on and bring it down to normal. After this I can drive it all over the place and it doesn't heat back up. After it sits awhile and cools down the process starts all over again, I have tried to see if the anti-freeze is circulating but it keeps pushing it out. I want to thank you for the information that you and the others have gave me.
    Dan
    .
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Overheating THAT FAST is either a completely blocked thermostat (could it have been accidentally reversed?) or a bad head gasket.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    What I'm hearing from you is:

    40 psi when cold
    15 psi idle
    approaches or eaches 40 psi over 1500 rpm when hot?

    Do I have that right?

    If I do, you don't have a problem Forget about it.

    I'm with bolivar on this one, although kiawah is quite correct, all readings should be verified with an adequate oil pressure gauge, especially if your gauge appears erratic in any way.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    The only vortex that will occur is the one that makes the needle jump in your BS detector. This is a total scam.

    As if all the brilliant engineers in all the world's car companies, spending hundreds of millions of dollars to squeeze even 1 more mpg out of their cars, can't do it, but Jake in Cleveland figured it out in his garage, and in multiples of 10.

    Yeah, right.

    I'm surprised the oil companies haven't had Jake killed yet. This is usually the story that circulates after he is put out of business by the FTC.
  • mwilliamson1mwilliamson1 Member Posts: 1
    Hoping I am wrong on this.......
    Son has a 2001 Sonata GLS V6.....started briefly, then died on him. Would not turn over.....hoping it was something to do with the battery, called AAA...the guy just listened to it and stated he thought it sounded like the timing belt might have gone on it.
    Question is....is he looking at possible concerns with an interference engine (hoping not) on this model and year?? (by the way, he was told quite some time ago timing belt was going to need to be changed...hence, quite possibly an expensive lesson learned!!) Thanks....
  • pappy24319pappy24319 Member Posts: 11
    I know the thermostat is in right, I put it in a few days ago. Tomorrow I'm going to take it out and try it without one, even though it is new it could still be bad. I have tried to find that kit you told me about on testing combustion gases , some of the auto parts stores have never heard of it, I have also checked in Delaware and Maryland, I live in Pa. only a few miles from these other states
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    This might help I trust:

    Combustion Leak Test
  • pappy24319pappy24319 Member Posts: 11
    I put some block seal in and so far everything is working the way it is suppose to, I want to thank everyone that replied to my messages, you guys were great, your response time was fast. I have been on some forums that take two or three days for them to reply. I sure know were to come to now, I will post another one I'm having trouble with. Thanks again
  • dan143dan143 Member Posts: 3
    Our 2007 4 cyl Auto Camry Hybrid has this strange cracking, clicking noise whenever we slow to turn or are starting from a standstill and backing up turning. It just started two months ago. The dealership changed the intermediate steering column because of an alert issued by Toyota. The problem still exists and we are told we need new brake pads. There is only 20,000 miles on the car. This will be the 5th time we will be taking our car in for repair or diagnosis. Does the intermediate steering column requier grease to operate? The noise never happens when we are driving on the freeway only when we slow to turn or negotiate a turn or back up. Any help would be appreciated.
  • bolivarbolivar Member Posts: 2,316
    You may need brake pads, but those noises don't sound like brake noise.

    It's under warranty. Keep taking it back until they fix it correctly.
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