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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,624
    eds92 said:

    Hello,
    Could someone provide current MF and residual for 2016 QX60 AWD, base model with MSRP of $45,395? Looking for a 39 month lease with 12k miles in PA. Thank you.

    .00119 and 61%

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  • jhobs0302jhobs0302 Member Posts: 2
    Michaell said:

    tzinanni said:

    Offer:

    '16 Infiniti QX60 AWD Premium, Premium Plus, Drivers assist

    Msrp- 52,740
    Price - 46,740
    39/12
    .00119
    61%
    1st mos. payment due at signing

    $531 tax included

    I get $467/mo before tax.

    Confirm the adjusted cap cost - looks like you are adding some of the fees to the selling price.
    Can you disclose the dealer? Looking at a similar deal in Cook County
  • jrsjrsjrsjrsjrsjrs Member Posts: 1
    Hello -

    First off, this forum has been incredibly helpful. Thank you for all of your insight. I've got two quick questions -

    1. Can you please provide the MF and Residual for 39/10?
    2. I've got a quote from a dealer in DE (I'm in NJ). They listed out the upfront costs as follows

    Jersey tax $1,101.23
    Title, 4 year tags, temp tag $430.00
    Clerical and messenger fee $349.00
    1st month payment $552.00

    TOTAL $2,432.23

    I understand the tax and 1st month payment but wanted to confirm the other two are legitimate and accurate costs.

    Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,624
    jrsjrsjrs said:

    Hello -

    First off, this forum has been incredibly helpful. Thank you for all of your insight. I've got two quick questions -

    1. Can you please provide the MF and Residual for 39/10?
    2. I've got a quote from a dealer in DE (I'm in NJ). They listed out the upfront costs as follows

    Jersey tax $1,101.23
    Title, 4 year tags, temp tag $430.00
    Clerical and messenger fee $349.00
    1st month payment $552.00

    TOTAL $2,432.23

    I understand the tax and 1st month payment but wanted to confirm the other two are legitimate and accurate costs.

    Thanks!

    I'll assume AWD.

    .00119 and 62%

    The title costs are state mandated. The other fee is pure profit for the dealer; try to negotiate a lower selling price to compensate.

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  • wpb5wpb5 Member Posts: 17
    Hello,

    Can I please have MF & RV for QX60 FWD 39/12 in FL.

    Also, I went today to a nearby dealership and was quoted the following:

    MSRP $45395
    Selling price $40800 (truecar.com)
    MF 0.00130
    RV $27237 (60%?)

    Negative equity from trade -$3500

    Dealer fee $995
    Inception fee $700 first time leasing a car, is that negotiable?
    DMV $706 seems too high to me
    Electronic filing fee $129
    Some other fee for scanning storing documents $98 ,, really???
    Taxes ~$1300 when I questioned that, I was given the classic answer, it's gov's money even though I insisted that taxes will be paid monthly (Florida)

    Payment $577/month tax included , $2700 down, After much haggling we got to $515 with $2700 down.

    Based on what I read here and some calculations I made, I'm thinking $450/month plus say another $60 for negative equity so $510 is right. Due at signing 1st month and DMV maybe. Is it even realistic?

    Do any of those numbers seem right to you? What fees are legit and what others aren't?

    Thank you very much for all the good work you do here. If it wasn't for you I might have signed the first deal theyes came up with which was $738/month , $2700 down who knows :)


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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,624
    wpb5 said:

    Hello,

    Can I please have MF & RV for QX60 FWD 39/12 in FL.

    Also, I went today to a nearby dealership and was quoted the following:

    MSRP $45395
    Selling price $40800 (truecar.com)
    MF 0.00130
    RV $27237 (60%?)

    Negative equity from trade -$3500

    Dealer fee $995
    Inception fee $700 first time leasing a car, is that negotiable?
    DMV $706 seems too high to me
    Electronic filing fee $129
    Some other fee for scanning storing documents $98 ,, really???
    Taxes ~$1300 when I questioned that, I was given the classic answer, it's gov's money even though I insisted that taxes will be paid monthly (Florida)

    Payment $577/month tax included , $2700 down, After much haggling we got to $515 with $2700 down.

    Based on what I read here and some calculations I made, I'm thinking $450/month plus say another $60 for negative equity so $510 is right. Due at signing 1st month and DMV maybe. Is it even realistic?

    Do any of those numbers seem right to you? What fees are legit and what others aren't?

    Thank you very much for all the good work you do here. If it wasn't for you I might have signed the first deal theyes came up with which was $738/month , $2700 down who knows :)

    I confirm the .00130 MF and 60% residual for 39/12.

    The dealer fee is outrageous - but that's Florida for you.

    Inception fee is imposed by the bank - no getting around it.

    You're correct - Florida taxes the monthly payment. This isn't an AutoNation dealer, by chance?

    The negative equity is about $90/mo, not $60 (3500 / 39)

    Using your prices, I get $436/mo before factoring in tax and negative equity. And that assumes you pay all the fees up front.

    Add the $90 for the negative equity and you're at $526; 6% tax takes the payment to roughly $558. So, if you're at $515/mo, that looks pretty good, all things considered.

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  • suemac1suemac1 Member Posts: 2
    I was quoted numbers below in CT
    2016 qx60 AWD with Premium Plus, Deluxe Tech and Theater
    39/12
    MSRP $59,840
    $612 per month all in with $1014 due +DMV fees.

    sound reasonable?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,624
    suemac1 said:

    I was quoted numbers below in CT
    2016 qx60 AWD with Premium Plus, Deluxe Tech and Theater
    39/12
    MSRP $59,840
    $612 per month all in with $1014 due +DMV fees.

    sound reasonable?

    What is the selling price?

    39/12 lease numbers are .00119 and 61%.

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  • arenew115arenew115 Member Posts: 3
    2016 QX60 AWD Base RV & MF for 39/12 in Houston TX? Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,624
    arenew115 said:

    2016 QX60 AWD Base RV & MF for 39/12 in Houston TX? Thanks!

    .00119 and 61%

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  • ajustorajustor Member Posts: 3
    edited May 2016
    Hi - Need the money factor & residual for a 2016 QX70 AWD with premium & premium plus 39 mos/15K for NY (Upstate- Buffalo) if that matters.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,624
    ajustor said:

    Hi - Need the money factor & residual for a 2016 QX70 AWD with premium & premium plus 39 mos/15K for NY (Upstate- Buffalo) if that matters.

    There is a separate QX70 lease discussion:

    http://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/36506/infiniti/qx70/2016-infiniti-qx70-lease-question#latest

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  • ajustorajustor Member Posts: 3
    Sorry typo, I meant a QX60. Thanks,

    Hi - Need the money factor & residual for a 2016 QX60 AWD with premium & premium plus 39 mos/15K for NY (Upstate- Buffalo) if that matters.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,624
    ajustor said:

    Sorry typo, I meant a QX60. Thanks,

    Hi - Need the money factor & residual for a 2016 QX60 AWD with premium & premium plus 39 mos/15K for NY (Upstate- Buffalo) if that matters.

    .00119 and 59%

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  • mikeindenvermikeindenver Member Posts: 2
    Hi Michael, I need the MF and Residual for a 2016 QX60 AWD w/ prem, prem plus, theater, and deluxe technology packages for 39m/15k in Colorado. Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,624
    Hi Michael, I need the MF and Residual for a 2016 QX60 AWD w/ prem, prem plus, theater, and deluxe technology packages for 39m/15k in Colorado. Thanks!
    .00119 and 59%

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  • mikeindenvermikeindenver Member Posts: 2
    Michaell said:



    Hi Michael, I need the MF and Residual for a 2016 QX60 AWD w/ prem, prem plus, theater, and deluxe technology packages for 39m/15k in Colorado. Thanks!

    .00119 and 59%

    Thank you!
  • deeravideeravi Member Posts: 3
    Can you please give me feedback on this?
    2016 QX Deluxe package, Theatre
    MSRP 59,290
    CAP COST 52,899
    10K Per Year/39 mon
    MF 0.00056
    Monthly Payment 500 (464+36)
    aprox 1400 due at signing - fees and first month
    MSD 9 MONTHS

    Any feedback appreciated.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,624
    deeravi said:

    Can you please give me feedback on this?
    2016 QX Deluxe package, Theatre
    MSRP 59,290
    CAP COST 52,899
    10K Per Year/39 mon
    MF 0.00056
    Monthly Payment 500 (464+36)
    aprox 1400 due at signing - fees and first month
    MSD 9 MONTHS

    Any feedback appreciated.

    Is this FWD or AWD?

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  • deeravideeravi Member Posts: 3
    Awd
  • suemac1suemac1 Member Posts: 2
    Michaell said:

    suemac1 said:

    I was quoted numbers below in CT
    2016 qx60 AWD with Premium Plus, Deluxe Tech and Theater
    39/12
    MSRP $59,840
    $612 per month all in with $1014 due +DMV fees.

    sound reasonable?

    What is the selling price?

    39/12 lease numbers are .00119 and 61%.
    selling price is $53,200 - what do you think?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,624
    deeravi said:

    Can you please give me feedback on this?
    2016 QX Deluxe package, Theatre, AWD
    MSRP 59,290
    CAP COST 52,899
    10K Per Year/39 mon
    MF 0.00056
    Monthly Payment 500 (464+36)
    aprox 1400 due at signing - fees and first month
    MSD 9 MONTHS

    Any feedback appreciated.

    .00119 and 62%, but you're using MSD to bring the MF down.

    With your prices, I get the $464/mo payment before tax, so the quote is spot on.

    Only way to make it better is to get a better selling price.

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  • deeravideeravi Member Posts: 3
    Michaell said:
    Can you please give me feedback on this? 2016 QX Deluxe package, Theatre MSRP 59,290 CAP COST 52,899 10K Per Year/39 mon MF 0.00056 Monthly Payment 500 (464+36) aprox 1400 due at signing - fees and first month MSD 9 MONTHS Any feedback appreciated.
    Is this FWD or AWD?
    AWD
  • givebackgiveback Member Posts: 20
    Michaell,

    How should Cap Cost be calculated? Should it include tax or not. The dealer used a Cap Cost including the 39 month tax to get the monthly payment and then plus the financial charges, applied the tax rate again to the monthly payment. I feel he's double taxing me. Who's right?

    Here is the quote:
    MSRP $56995
    Selling price $50995
    Doc fee $168
    License transfer fee $120
    ERT $25
    Total tax $1407 (rolled into monthly payment)
    Monthly payment $491
    Due at signing $491+$168+$120+$25, and 9 MSDs

    Is the monthly payment correct? My calculation without double tax turns out to be around $470.

    Also, is the MSD based on the before or after MSD monthly payment rounded up? The dealer insisted it should be before, but my previous lease was after. Who's right?

    Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,624
    giveback said:

    Michaell,

    How should Cap Cost be calculated? Should it include tax or not. The dealer used a Cap Cost including the 39 month tax to get the monthly payment and then plus the financial charges, applied the tax rate again to the monthly payment. I feel he's double taxing me. Who's right?

    Here is the quote:
    MSRP $56995
    Selling price $50995
    Doc fee $168
    License transfer fee $120
    ERT $25
    Total tax $1407 (rolled into monthly payment)
    Monthly payment $491
    Due at signing $491+$168+$120+$25, and 9 MSDs

    Is the monthly payment correct? My calculation without double tax turns out to be around $470.

    Also, is the MSD based on the before or after MSD monthly payment rounded up? The dealer insisted it should be before, but my previous lease was after. Who's right?

    Thanks!

    What state is this? Tax obligations for a lease vary by where you live. Some tax the payment, others calculate the tax against the sum of the payments and they are due up front (or, added to the cap cost). Some states assess sales tax against the entire selling price (ouch).

    And, in some cases there is a tax assessed against incentives or money down, in addition to the monthly tax amount.

    It's my understanding that the MSD amount is the payment after the discounted MF is used to calculate. But, that could be different by brand. Call other Infiniti dealers and see what they have to say.

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  • givebackgiveback Member Posts: 20
    It's in Illinois, the tax rate is 7.25%. Do the numbers make sense?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,624
    giveback said:

    It's in Illinois, the tax rate is 7.25%. Do the numbers make sense?

    In Illinois, the state calculates the tax against all the payments up front.

    However, if you live in Cook County, the county then takes the calculated payment (with the state tax included), and assesses the county level tax.

    So, unfortunately, it's not double taxed, just taxed through two different organizations.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,064
    When I leased an Infiniti, the MSD amount was based on the pre-discounted payment. Unlike BMW.

    But, that's just one example in 2011.

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  • mdrrileymdrriley Member Posts: 4
    wondering if this is a good deal:
    MSRP - $48510
    Premium Plus Package
    Initial Payment - $4710
    (includes first month payment)
    Net Capitalized cost - $39,328
    Lease end purchase price - $29,592
    Monthly payment - $339
    Monthly payment total - $13,221
    10,000 miles/year
    39 months

    Thanks.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,064
    mdrriley said:

    wondering if this is a good deal:
    MSRP - $48510
    Premium Plus Package
    Initial Payment - $4710
    (includes first month payment)
    Net Capitalized cost - $39,328
    Lease end purchase price - $29,592
    Monthly payment - $339
    Monthly payment total - $13,221
    10,000 miles/year
    39 months

    Thanks.

    FWD or RWD?

    What state and tax rate?

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  • mdrrileymdrriley Member Posts: 4
    FWD, CA I believe 8% in Orange County
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,624
    mdrriley said:

    wondering if this is a good deal:
    MSRP - $48510
    Premium Plus Package
    Initial Payment - $4710
    (includes first month payment)
    Net Capitalized cost - $39,328
    Lease end purchase price - $29,592
    Monthly payment - $339
    Monthly payment total - $13,221
    10,000 miles/year
    39 months

    Thanks.

    mdrriley said:

    FWD, CA I believe 8% in Orange County

    39/10 for FWD QX60 is 61% and .00130

    With your MSRP and Net Cap Cost, I get $339/mo before tax; $366/mo after

    What does the $4710 due at signing cover?

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  • mdrrileymdrriley Member Posts: 4
    4710 covers money down, taxes, title, license, and first month
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,624
    mdrriley said:
    4710 covers money down, taxes, title, license, and first month
     What taxes? In California, the lease payment is taxed monthly, not upfront. 

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  • velovicpvelovicp Member Posts: 9
    Got a quick quote of 531$ a month for AWD listed at 45,895 first payment due at signing only. Sounds high to me. I am in NJ What is the mf and res on this vehicle?
  • velovicpvelovicp Member Posts: 9
    Sorry I didnt get any other numbers like sale price ect...
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,064
    velovicp said:

    Got a quick quote of 531$ a month for AWD listed at 45,895 first payment due at signing only. Sounds high to me. I am in NJ What is the mf and res on this vehicle?

    Term?
    Mileage?
    AWD or FWD?

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  • velovicpvelovicp Member Posts: 9
    kyfdx said:

    velovicp said:

    Got a quick quote of 531$ a month for AWD listed at 45,895 first payment due at signing only. Sounds high to me. I am in NJ What is the mf and res on this vehicle?

    Term?
    Mileage?
    AWD or FWD?
    39/10000 AWD
  • velovicpvelovicp Member Posts: 9
    Actually I think I asked him for a 36/10000 sorry about that
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,064
    velovicp said:

    kyfdx said:

    velovicp said:

    Got a quick quote of 531$ a month for AWD listed at 45,895 first payment due at signing only. Sounds high to me. I am in NJ What is the mf and res on this vehicle?

    Term?
    Mileage?
    AWD or FWD?
    39/10000 AWD
    velovicp said:

    Actually I think I asked him for a 36/10000 sorry about that

    .00119 MF and 62% residual for either term (so, I'm sure he quoted you for 39 months).

    To get to that payment, the CAP cost would have to be about the same as the MSRP. So, tax, title/license/doc fee, acquisition fee would add up to the same amount as the discount from MSRP.

    Ask for the selling price. I'd assume somewhere around $43,000.

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  • homerrulezhomerrulez Member Posts: 67
    any news on the 2016 qx60 hybrid? release date?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,624

    any news on the 2016 qx60 hybrid? release date?

    I show a QX60 HEV -- is that the hybrid?

    AWD or FWD? Lease term and miles per year?

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  • velovicpvelovicp Member Posts: 9
    How did I make out?


    New Jersey
    AWD with first package 
    Msrp 47125
    Sale 43500
    00119 MF and 62%
    39/10000 
    First month only due at signing.  530$
    I forget cap cost but I want to say 48ish
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,624
    velovicp said:

    How did I make out?


    New Jersey
    AWD with first package 
    Msrp 47125
    Sale 43500
    00119 MF and 62%
    39/10000 
    First month only due at signing.  530$
    I forget cap cost but I want to say 48ish

    Why is the cap cost $4-5K higher than the selling price? Taxes and fees shouldn't be more than a couple thousand.

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  • mmendoza2mmendoza2 Member Posts: 193
    Good Morning, What is the MF and residual % for a 2016 Qx60 in South Florida for the following terms:

    36/10
    39/10
    42/10

    36/12
    39/12
    42/12

    Any lease cash incentives?

    Thanks
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,624
    mmendoza2 said:

    Good Morning, What is the MF and residual % for a 2016 Qx60 in South Florida for the following terms:

    36/10
    39/10
    42/10

    36/12
    39/12
    42/12

    Any lease cash incentives?

    Thanks

    I'll assume FWD.

    36/12 - .00130 and 59%
    39/12 - .00130 and 60%

    42 month numbers not viable.

    Add 1% for 10K

    No incentive information

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  • sam1992sam1992 Member Posts: 9
    At this time, are the numbers better on the 2015 or 2016 Infiniti Q 60. and what are May MF and residual 36/12. Thank you
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,064
    sam1992 said:

    At this time, are the numbers better on the 2015 or 2016 Infiniti Q 60. and what are May MF and residual 36/12. Thank you

    QX60?

    FWD or AWD?

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  • velovicpvelovicp Member Posts: 9
    Michaell said:
    How did I make out?


    New Jersey
    AWD with first package 
    Msrp 47125
    Sale 43500
    00119 MF and 62%
    39/10000 
    First month only due at signing.  530$
    I forget cap cost but I want to say 48ish
    Why is the cap cost $4-5K higher than the selling price? Taxes and fees shouldn't be more than a couple thousand.
    OK sorry here are the number .
    Msrp 47,195
    Sale 43,531
    Cap 46,442
    Up front tax 1,323
    TLR 382
    Acquisition 700
    Doc fee. 499
  • velovicpvelovicp Member Posts: 9
    velovicp said:
    Michaell said:
    How did I make out?


    New Jersey
    AWD with first package 
    Msrp 47125
    Sale 43500
    00119 MF and 62%
    39/10000 
    First month only due at signing.  530$
    I forget cap cost but I want to say 48ish
    Why is the cap cost $4-5K higher than the selling price? Taxes and fees shouldn't be more than a couple thousand.
    OK sorry here are the number .
    Msrp 47,195
    Sale 43,531
    Cap 46,442
    Up front tax 1,323
    TLR 382
    Acquisition 700
    Doc fee. 499
    Nj 39/10000. 
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