Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

fintail

If it is solid and roadworthy, 4K isn't terribly bad for that. 12K was insane.

I bet with good tires and driving skill, it would be OK in the snow - light, not much power, narrow wheels. But, something like that would dissolve on salted roads or even in general dampness, I would keep it inside during the winter.

iluvmysephia1 said:

Wouldn't need A/C in upstate NY. Might prefer AWD, however!

fintail

New Accord seems bland but overstyled at the same time, which is par for the course and segment these days. Not a fan of modern Honda wheel designs, the trim piece on the rear quatter window, or that weird lower overstyling slash thing that rises towards the rear of the car. I get a BMW GT vibe. Interior looks decent. Interesting powertrains, slow selling V6 is gone, looks like more manual possibilities.

ab348

The Accord is not as badly-overstyled as I feared but as always, likely will need to see it in the flesh. It looks like they took a Malibu body, grafted some Civic taillights on the back, and got a good deal on some leftover Dodge Dart grilles up front. The optional 2L turbo sounds interesting.

jpp75

stickguy said:

Accord released. So far, liking what I am reading and seeing. Can't wait to get the full equipment list to compare trim levels.

http://www.motortrend.com/cars/honda/accord/2018/2018-honda-accord-first-look-lower-wider-shorter/

Looks nice, I'm glad to see they kept the rear styling in check and didn't go crazy like they did on the Civic.

Mr_Shiftright

nyccarguy said:

Anybody interested in a BMW Z3 Clown Shoe Coupe?  There's one for sale around the corner from me.  It isn't an ///M Coupe.  It's Silver.  I can check out further details if someone wants.

What's asking price?

stickguy

Fin, from some angles, especially rear, it reminds me a lot of current MB stying (sorry!)

The interior is sharp, I think it is attractive and calm enough to not look dated in a few years (the Camry will likely do that). Plus, I am way more interested in how it will drive and perform with the new chassis and powertrains. Plus the MPG likely taking a nice jump up.

corvette

Nice that they're offering the big engine with the sport trim. 

jpp75

As @Marcothecarguy1986 noted in one of the videos VW has decided to stop selling the Touareg here. Not a surprise as it was such a slow seller, but as I told @Michaell and @breld yesterday it certainly throws a wrinkle into my plans.

In spite of the quirkiness it sometimes exhibits the Touareg is hands down one of my all time favorite cars I've owned, really only the 2002 Pathfinder(s) top it. So far nothing I've driven really does it for me like the Touareg. In the back of my mind I was always thinking I could lease a new Touareg when this lease ends at the end of 2018, maybe get the nice configurable dash and updated infotainment systems, but now looks like that won't be an option. So it raises the possibility that I buy this one and keep it, I certainly don't want to give it up and get something I don't enjoy as much. The issue is, according to my handy spreadsheet if I'm going to buy it then it's better to just do it now than pay the rest of the lease payments and then buy it, plus I wouldn't own it without an extended warranty and I'm sure that's cheaper now than it will be later, which makes me think if I'm going to buy it out I should just do it now.

Essentially what this means is several test drives with @Michaell and @Breld coming up.

P.S. @Marcothecarguy1986 I echo others, I enjoy your posts and what you bring to the board, glad to have you here!

stickguy

wonder how it will compare to just riding out the lease, letting it go back, and buying a CPO instead, since you want to pay for a warranty anyway?

jpp75

stickguy said:

wonder how it will compare to just riding out the lease, letting it go back, and buying a CPO instead, since you want to pay for a warranty anyway?

That's a good question, there's always the risk that prices hold steady or rise since supply is drying up. Plus the other intangible is that the one I currently have is exactly what I'd want, colors, options, features, etc. If I let it go back I can't go to the CPO/Used Car factory and build one like this.

stickguy

well, if you want it that much, just go do it. Then you can drive around Colorado as much as your heart desires, without worrying about lease miles!

fintail

i think the angles are too sharp for many modern MB. I see it closer to Audi styling, especially with the faux fastback. It looks like a liftback, but I guess it isn't.

I'm already irritated by a quirky detail - the red diagonal tail light piece below the reverse light, intruding from the corner light piece into the trunk. Why is this little spear of plastic there? Must be dynamic and exciting.

stickguy said:

Fin, from some angles, especially rear, it reminds me a lot of current MB stying (sorry!)

The interior is sharp, I think it is attractive and calm enough to not look dated in a few years (the Camry will likely do that). Plus, I am way more interested in how it will drive and perform with the new chassis and powertrains. Plus the MPG likely taking a nice jump up.

nyccarguy

Mr_Shiftright said:

Anybody interested in a BMW Z3 Clown Shoe Coupe?  There's one for sale around the corner from me.  It isn't an ///M Coupe.  It's Silver.  I can check out further details if someone wants.

What's asking price?

I'll stop by on my way home tonight and take a closer look.  

breld

nyccarguy said:

@Marcothecarguy1986 - you are more than welcome to post as much as you want here.  You are a good dude.  Don't pay attention to anyone who says anything negative about your visual impairment or your phonetic spelling.  I think the fact that you love cars and even own one that you can't drive is wonderful.

Agreed!

breld

Some Accord news:

2018 Accord Reveal

I just quickly read through for now, but here's what caught my eye:

• Coupe not available for 2018 (future availability?)
  
• 1.5T rated at 192 hp/192 tq
  
• 2.0T rated at 252 hp/273 tq
  
• 1.5T available w/CVT or 6-speed manual in Sport trim
  
• 2.0T available w/10-speed auto or 6-speed manual in Sport trim
  
• Overall size is about the same (a tad shorter with a longer wheelbase)
  
• 1.5T trims - LX, Sport, EX, EX-L, EX-L Navi, Touring
  
• 2.0T trims - Sport, EX-L, EX-L Navi, Touring
  
• Honda Sensing safety technology standard across the board?
  

Michaell

breld said:

Some Accord news:

2018 Accord Reveal

I just quickly read through for now, but here's what caught my eye:

• Coupe not available for 2018 (future availability?)
  
• 1.5T rated at 192 hp/192 tq
  
• 2.0T rated at 252 hp/273 tq
  
• 1.5T available w/CVT or 6-speed manual in Sport trim
  
• 2.0T available w/10-speed auto or 6-speed manual in Sport trim
  
• Overall size is about the same (a tad shorter with a longer wheelbase)
  
• 1.5T trims - LX, Sport, EX, EX-L, EX-L Navi, Touring
  
• 2.0T trims - Sport, EX-L, EX-L Navi, Touring
  
• Honda Sensing safety technology standard across the board?
  

I'll rescind my earlier comments and give my blessing to a 2.0T Sport with 6-speed manual.

But, likely still slower than the Type R you really want.

nyccarguy

10 Speed Automatic?  So it can shift 8 times by the time you get across an intersection?

stickguy

10 does seem well past overkill.

I think a Sport Accord would be much better suited for me than a Civic Si. And probably about the same price. Once thing I already know I will hate is they likely have 19" wheels, with a way too narrow and low profile tire (probably about 225/40) on it.

quite likely an EX will be the sweet spot, but I am guessing that won't have BLIS on it. which I really want. Honda sensing is standard on all trims, so the active nannies, but the one passive safety feature that is really useful, is somehow optional.

carnaught

I like what I see of the '18 Accord but find the interior, with it's fake wood, just meh, and just mildly evolutionary, not revolutionary.

qbrozen

Mr_Shiftright said:

nyccarguy said:

Anybody interested in a BMW Z3 Clown Shoe Coupe?  There's one for sale around the corner from me.  It isn't an ///M Coupe.  It's Silver.  I can check out further details if someone wants.

What's asking price?

transmission?
engine?

cdnpinhead

Anything worth doing is worth overdoing. Works most times it's tried.

graphicguy

kyfdx said:

graphicguy said:

kyfdx said:

Generally, it takes about $189 to service your typical antique mantel clock, that's worth maybe $150-$250.

They look nice, but if you want to keep them running, it's frustrating. @graphicguy I used to go to the guy up Reading Road, when I worked in Blue Ash. You know that one?

Don't remember ever doing business on Reading Rd. What's the name? I have one guy in Lebanon, OH and another in Mason, OH. They both work out of their homes, though.

Agree with your pricing assessment. People are surprised some of these old clocks cost $200 to repair when they only paid $75.

In short, buy what you like. If you're looking for an investment piece, be ready to pull out plenty of Benjamins to buy and spend even more to fix them, and find that exact right person that likes it as much as you do.

Most antique clock people that do it for profit are looking for that $50 gem that they can sell for $500 with just a little polish.

Actually, on 42, not Reading Rd. Near Butler-Warren Rd. It's called ProClock

Oh....in West Chester. That's Bob Crxxxxx. He has (or at least used to have) some nice antique mantel clocks. Haven't seen him for quite some time. I think his work is on eBay.

Again this was years ago, but we tried to do some swapping and just couldn't make it work.

breld

stickguy said:

10 does seem well past overkill.

I think a Sport Accord would be much better suited for me than a Civic Si. And probably about the same price. Once thing I already know I will hate is they likely have 19" wheels, with a way too narrow and low profile tire (probably about 225/40) on it.

quite likely an EX will be the sweet spot, but I am guessing that won't have BLIS on it. which I really want. Honda sensing is standard on all trims, so the active nannies, but the one passive safety feature that is really useful, is somehow optional.

They had a 2.0T Sport on hand at the release, so apparently, it was equipped much like an EX, including BLIS and a moonroof. The conjecture is the 1.5T Sport will be similarly equipped to the current Sport.

tbirdmarco

@graphicguy yes you all are grate you are all my online frends! would love to meat you all one day soon! wow sorry to hear about your car washing insatent wow glad it did tern out good and you wher able to remove all of the tree sap from your cars side and roof!

tbirdmarco

@nyccarguy thank you for all of the kind words! man nothing does bother me like back number of years ago I alike what I like don't care what anyone does say you like what you like! love this group everyone in hear is soo cool. have an good upcumming weekand man and to all!

tbirdmarco

@ab348 wow sorry to hear the soga with the dealer is still going on cant see y they just don't understand you are not interested in that car anymore! hope you do get your money in the mail or refunded to your card real soon!

tbirdmarco

@stickguy nice like the new accord from what reading have to go to dealer when they start hitting the lots!

tbirdmarco

@breld thanks for the kind words man! any car shopping this weekand!

tbirdmarco

@jpp5862 sad they are not going to be making your car anymore would do what you said just bye the car now and injoy it! since there is not any other car that you have test driven that you did like as much! if you want to do an few mor test drives with the gang! go for it! love reading about them all!

tbirdmarco

@jpp5862 thank you for all of the kind words!

tbirdmarco

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a7tHDbc9i9U

ab348

One thing where us Canadians again take it on the chin is in the selection of interior colors. Honda here only offers one interior color with each paint shade on most models. Most of the current Accords here get only black inside, but if you get the dark blue paint you get gray inside. No availability with any paint color of that nice ivory leather you Yankees can get.

tbirdmarco

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=22LF5eEdRuw

tbirdmarco

@ab348 no idea y Honda does that you would think should prity much be the same hear and in Canada! how is it with other car brands there! in Canada when it comes to paint colors ind interior colors?

nyccarguy

nyccarguy

stickguy

well, any details? So far I like it!

stickguy

Thanks Breld. I did not watch the video, so good to know. I am looking forward to finally seeing the equipment list. moonroof and BLIS are requirements for me. Everything else I want seems to be standard on every trim level. Sport, other than the wheels, is interesting. I would be fine with the 1.5l engine though. If the EX has BLIS and moonroof, and I decide to just stick with the AT, it is probably the perfect compromise.

nyccarguy

@Mr_Shiftright - so I gave the car a quick once over.  It was raining and I worked late, but it shows very nice.  It is a 5 speed car.  Titanium Silver/Black.  I can't tell what year it is or which engine it has.  If I had to guess, I'd say the 2.5L I6 & not the upgraded 3.0L.  The interior seems very well taken care of.  I couldn't see any of the typical driver's side bolster wear that you see on so many BMWs.  I took a snap shot of the 4 Sale sign with the number.  PM me if you are interested.  

stickguy

dang. If I was actually buying now I would have you check into it. I'm afraid to get the answer now!

Oh, heck, it is right by you. Pop over after work tomorrow and get us some details!

stickguy

wife shocked me today. we were out for our evening walk, and of course, I was talking about cars. She said, unprovoked, when I was talking about the Accord that we should stop in and look at it tomorrow. Made my jaw drop! Probably had something to do with the 2 Shandy's she had with dinner. Broke my heart to tell her it was not out until the fall, but I will take that as permission to stop at any dealer we pass tomorrow that has something interesting. I think we will be making a pass past the Mini and Toyota dealers that share a lot!

corvette

The writing is on the wall for my mom's 2002 Volvo S80. The alternator went out and it left her stranded. $700 or $800 repair and they found a minor oil leak, which my parents also elected to have fixed (I wouldn't have, since they're probably going to be selling or trading the car at this point).

They hardly ever drive it and it's kind of a waste to have a "nice" car sitting around, but I think that's what she will want to replace it--something similar or a small luxury SUV. Honestly, if there were a great deal to be had on an ultra-low mileage lease (7,500 miles per year or even 5,000 miles per year), that might work out for her. I'd love to sell her my Murano, but she prefers to buy new.

stickguy

still can't decide what to do when my car goes back. keep it longer? do without? Replace? And if replace, new or used? buy or lease? Sedan, sporty car, CUV or truck? Time to fire up Excel and do a decision matrix!

ab348

Marcothecarguy1986 said:

@ab348 no idea y Honda does that you would think should prity much be the same hear and in Canada! how is it with other car brands there! in Canada when it comes to paint colors ind interior colors?

I think because the market is much smaller than the US (about 10% of the size) the manufacturers make the decision to limit interior colors to reduce parts inventories. Unfortunately what that means is mostly black interiors for us. Ugh.

Generally paint colors are not limited as much although I have encountered a few times when a color available in the US was not offered here.

stickguy

I always heard that Canada also skewed toward cheaper cars too? Plus, not many hot areas where you have to worry about having a light color interior to not get overheated!

ab348

Still does skew towards cheaper/smaller cars to some extent though not nearly as much as when I was growing up. The rising income levels and resultant hot property markets in places like Toronto and Vancouver really have changed things in those areas, not so much here on the east coast though. The equivalent car seems more expensive here than in the US too, like a lot of other products. (Example: I was pricing a new electric lawnmower yesterday. I liked a WORX model but not the $289Cdn price locally. The identical mower is available in the US for $149USD)

stickguy

other than the really stiff miles, I actually really like this one. Probably the color? would probably tire of it quickly though.

http://www.royaleasing.com/detail-2007-chevrolet-tahoe-4wd_4dr_1500_ltz-used-16591901.html

corvette

I really like the colors on that Tahoe, but that is the first year of that body style, so I'd be very leery. Mine is not quite as well equipped, but is two years newer and has a lot less miles, and I didn't pay much more than their "sale price" for the 2007.

Some replacement door weatherstrips came via UPS today. The front ones, I ordered the wrong part. The back ones, I ordered two of, but only got one. So I only got to replace the weatherstrip on one back door. :@

stickguy

oh, I would never buy that one for that kind of money. I just happened to like it.

fintail

Still plenty of oddball cheap cars in Vancouver, even with the insane real estate market. That market exists primarily through sketchy offshore money rather than income. Income to house price ratios there are insane, much worse than Seattle. A good market for 18 year olds who have been in the country for 6 weeks driving new 300K cars.