Maybe so, but I would expect the battery to recharge when she drives it. She commutes about 15-20 miles a day plus errands and such, so it is not as if the car sits.
AAA is on their way to give me a jump and then I'll run it over to the Mazda dealer.
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How annoying! I bet the battery isn't even under the B2B warranty. I think a lot of manufacturers only warrant the battery for the first 12 months/12k.
Coming from a 2013 GTI, the 2015 does strike me as a significant evolution of the breed – and a useful further development.
Going in to the test drive, I had 3 primary concerns:
1 – virtually the same MPG as my 2013, but a smaller gas tank – limiting range \ miles I can drive between visits to the service station - yuk.
2 – fabric sunshade for the sunroof – yuk.
3 – to have a sunroof, you MUST now have black [ only interior color ] leather. The plaid seats I have now, since they are cloth, are fine with me. Another big yuk.
Well, this was an interesting drive. IMHO, the 2015 is a very good car – and the only one at [ or near ] the price point that I personally find particularly appealing.
The drive is engaging – but not significantly better than my 2013 in any individual way.
The additional TQ [ plus 50 ] I believe, but it appears that it takes a bit longer for the turbo to spool up & actually deliver that thrust. One thing I like about my 2013 is generally very little ‘turbo lag’.
The leather seats [ required \ included with versions above the base ‘S’ model ] are very similar in comfort and support to those in my 2013.
The DSG transmission appears to be slightly improved in responsiveness – but mine is already quite good in that respect. I have read that it is improved in stop & slow heavy traffic. I did not try this, but would before I’d make a final decision.
The transmission ratios are rather dramatically changed, at least in fifth and top gears. The RPM at 60, 70 and 75 that I noted are quite substantially reduced, compared to my 2013. My ** GUESS ** is that this might improve ‘real world’ highway MPG, though the EPA numbers are virtually unchanged.
The ride and handling are still quite good.
Again, I find this a good effort at improvement & evolution by VW – on an already very good effort.
Coming from a 2013 GTI, the 2015 does strike me as a significant evolution of the breed – and a useful further development.
Going in to the test drive, I had 3 primary concerns:
1 – virtually the same MPG as my 2013, but a smaller gas tank – limiting range \ miles I can drive between visits to the service station - yuk.
2 – fabric sunshade for the sunroof – yuk.
3 – to have a sunroof, you MUST now have black [ only interior color ] leather. The plaid seats I have now, since they are cloth, are fine with me. Another big yuk.
Well, this was an interesting drive. IMHO, the 2015 is a very good car – and the only one at [ or near ] the price point that I personally find particularly appealing.
The drive is engaging – but not significantly better than my 2013 in any individual way.
The additional TQ [ plus 50 ] I believe, but it appears that it takes a bit longer for the turbo to spool up & actually deliver that thrust. One thing I like about my 2013 is generally very little ‘turbo lag’.
The leather seats [ required \ included with versions above the base ‘S’ model ] are very similar in comfort and support to those in my 2013.
The DSG transmission appears to be slightly improved in responsiveness – but mine is already quite good in that respect. I have read that it is improved in stop & slow heavy traffic. I did not try this, but would before I’d make a final decision.
The transmission ratios are rather dramatically changed, at least in fifth and top gears. The RPM at 60, 70 and 75 that I noted are quite substantially reduced, compared to my 2013. My ** GUESS ** is that this might improve ‘real world’ highway MPG, though the EPA numbers are virtually unchanged.
The ride and handling are still quite good.
Again, I find this a good effort at improvement & evolution by VW – on an already very good effort.
But it did not leave me lusting after a new one.
= Ray
Mostly satisfied with a 2013 – for now . . .
Nice review, thanks. Also enjoyed your updates on the 2013. Since the lease on my 335i is up in the spring of 2016 I have (naturally) been window shopping for 6 months now
Of course this far out I am looking at multiple options and paths. Its really dependent on if I am still enjoying the ZHP as much as I am now.
If that holds I could see myself going something more economical (GTI, GLI, A3) for a DD as I never intend on DDing the ZHP. Can't see my self doing a 4cyl 3 Series though. Had one for a service loaner and while it wasn't bad, I just can't wrap my mind around it.
If for one reason or another I decide to part ways with the ZHP the next ride will undoubtedly be something to satisfy the premium sporty itch. IE another 335i, 435i, or if I really wanted to break the bank (which I don't!) a 435i GC.
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@rayainsw I thought the new one was rated 25/34 vs. the old one at 21/30? That seems like a fairly substantial difference, though range is still low. (or maybe those are stickshift numbers?)
Thanks for the sharing the experience with the 2015 GTI. A lot of reviews in the mags and on VW forums seem to claim this new version is so much better than the MK6. It's nice to hear your "real world" experience and comparison reflecting that while it's certainly an improvement, it's not leaps and bounds better (which makes used MK6's still very attractive).
Warranty work went without a hitch...they secured the weather stripping on the rear doors and did a cleaning service on the a/c system, gratis, for that mildewy odor so I hope this has solved the two issues I've had. A different service writer took care of me and had me come in on Saturday afternoon and though they had a full waiting room, he got me out within a couple of hours. Am very pleased so far with the Hyundai service on both vehicles and hoping the wife will check out the Elantra.
In their road trip, the "at" icon came on so there is a tranny issue that will need to be dealt with. Not sure what she will do but if it isn't a major expense, she might just do it and keep it a bit longer. My opinion was to go test drive the new S version since I doubt she'd want the plainer model. Showed her a white S model in the parking lot where we ate dinner Saturday night and she liked it...a lot. Advised her to go drive the Accent, Elantra and Mazda3 S and decide which one fits her needs. Then we'll go from there but a shame really that she won't listen to me because it is really crazy to throw anymore green at her vehicle!
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2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2025 VW GTI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
Bought the '05 Mazda3s today back in '05 and a new problem cropped up on the road trip it took the last 13 days, the "at" light came on. Not sure what we plan to do yet but I know she will have our mechanic look at it and give us his opinion. I think this is the final straw and that we should just get what we can for it and move on. It has a tad over 137k on it and hate to throw anymore $ at it and I think the wife has finally had it to. Showed her a new Mazda3s the other night in white and she did really like it. While at the Hyundai dealer Saturday, I sat in a new Elantra and thought that it would be a good daily driver for her because I think she won't be happy with the smaller Accent. But I think it's going to come down to these three contenders for her next daily driver and which one drives the best to her. My choice is for the Elantra, the SE model since she won't get a vehicle with a sunroof so the SE is really the best model for her. We'd also get a loyalty rebate since I bought another Hyundai recently, something I was able to get on mine since we already had another Hyundai model in the family. But it's her choice and as long as the color is charcoal, I'm happy with either really. The longer back to back warranty is also a good selling point for Hyundai but like I said, it's her vehicle and her funds so she will get what she really likes just as I did.
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2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2025 VW GTI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
That's about my minimum tolerance on the range of a car as well. My MINI barely makes it at around 335 on a fill up, coasting in on a dead stick landing. I would prefer that a car do an "easy" 350.
At fill up, the Tuscon range shows 367 miles. Not great but I guess for a CUV, not bad either. The one vehicle that I've been impressed with is the Nissan Altima and it's close to 600 mile range on a full tank...very impressive for a mid sizer indeed. And I've driven about 8 of them in the last week or so and have yet to feel that sensation between 1k and 2k that others have talked about...no shudder or anything out of the ordinary as I go up the power band and they've all been the new model, either a '13 or '14 model.
The Sandman
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2025 VW GTI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
My old Quest and Subaru usually got filled at 300 miles. The '09 Grand Caravan has had several 400 mile tanks now (20 gallon tank, 24ish mpg on the road). Pleasantly surprised.
Range? 300 local, 400+ highway. I also fill up with a quarter tank left. Max when the light comes on, but to me that is too low.
300 on the highway is bad. 200 around town. Sadly that is what our RDX does. At 17 or so local, 27 highway, on a 16 gallon tank ( so IMO 13 usable) that is 220 local and 350 highway. If I hyper mile and hit 30, and run into the light, 400 at the max (and a nervous tic!). That truck heeds 18-18.5 gallon tank, minimum. And traffic and barely 300 highway
My daughter leaves for college soon. 440 miles each way. I need something with better range! I liked the Altima. 18.5 gal tank, easy 36-38 mpg highway.
The limited range is one thing that I dislike about all of my cars. The Pilot with its massive 21 gallon tank is averaging 281.2 miles per tank over the past 10,969 miles (15.8 mpg average).
The BMW sucks down super at a rate of 21 mpg with an average range of 317.4 miles over the past 17,458 miles.
My Prelude is the most economical vehicle. 23.6 mpg over 2,438 miles with an average of 270.9 miles per fill up.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
Yep, the Altima is great in this respect. Drove one Friday that had a full tank and about 500 miles as its range...very impressive actually! For the $, I think it's one of the better mid sizers out in the market today. A bit boring in the style department but hey, those mileage figures ain't too bad at all!
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2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2025 VW GTI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
Range between 430 and well over 500 on my 2013 Honda Accord, depending on what kind of driving. I love that I can drive from mid-Ohio to Philly on 1 tank of gas. Haven't made it 600 yet as there is usually a reason to fill up well before that, such as entering a long stretch with no gas stations.
I called about the doorstop I saw on Saturday. It is a 1999 Mcoupe (the hardtop version if the Z3 M roadster). Indy shop selling for a customer (more like he has it parked out front I think). About 100k on it. For price, he thought the last offer received wax about 18.5k.
@stickguy said:
Worth a flyer I think. You only Live once!
I called about the doorstop I saw on Saturday. It is a 1999 Mcoupe (the hardtop version if the Z3 M roadster). Indy shop selling for a customer (more like he has it parked out front I think). About 100k on it. For price, he thought the last offer received wax about 18.5k.
I love those.. Their annual gathering is called DorkFest, though... so, it's an acquired taste. The '99 has the same 240 HP motor as the one we are looking at (well.. slightly different, but basically the same). In 2001, I think, they got the 316 HP motor out of the next M3.. Those are just stupid fast, and stupid expensive..
some years ago (maybe 2005?) a local (huge) used car dealer (they primarily sell 2-3 YO off lease cars, and a lot of them) had a 1998 (I think) dark green M roadster. it was gorgeous, and pretty cheap for what it was as best as I can remember. Never drove it, but dreamed about it.
from what I recall about those, they could bit you bad since the suspension was not well suited for the application, but there was a kit you could get to upgrade it.
Probably a wildly entertaining beast to drive. A Germanic Cobra in a way.
My old four cylinder 2009 Altima had a 20 gallon tank. I did several 500+ mile tanks and one 575 mile tank (and even then it didn't take 20 gallons to refill it)! The GLI will usually go ~400+ miles on a tank. Close to 500 if you're on a long highway trip and keep your foot out of it.
Well, I'm about to sell one - my 07 Solara that my daughter's boyfriend borrowed long enough that he finally decided to make an offer.
My big question now is whether to find just the right used Miata or use some of the money to soup up my 04 Mazda 6 wagon. With that 3.0 V6 it's plenty peppy. Throw on some new, nice shocks, springs and whatever do dads. At the right time performance tires. Cheaper than another car and saves insuring another but that Miata or E46 convertible itch does still exist......
2015 Mazda 6 Grand Touring, 2014 Mazda 3 Sport Hatchback, 1999 Mazda Miata 2004 Toyota Camry LE, 1999.
Miatas are pretty cheap and you don't need a lot of power to have fun in one. I'd avoid very early ones (1990-91), and automatics. Also be sure you fit in one.
@stickguy said:
If I ever let my daughter have a car at school, I will make sure it can easily make the trip without refueling. Certainly going to limit the options!
I can get into pretty much anything. I'm plenty short. Lots of mer misses on autotrader. Anyone feel free to do a 100 mile search of zip 08050. No automatics, no orange interiors, no white cars.....
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205K is a lot of miles, but now that I think about it my Prelude has 152.5K on it. I have no reason to believe it won't easily surpass the 200K mark (with proper maintenance of course). So if my Prelude can do it, why not a hand built German motor from the mid 90's?
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205K is a lot of miles, but now that I think about it my Prelude has 152.5K on it. I have no reason to believe it won't easily surpass the 200K mark (with proper maintenance of course). So if my Prelude can do it, why not a hand built German motor from the mid 90's?
my TL has 175K on it. No worries at all about the engine going a lot longer. the tranny, well, that BMW doesn't have a Honda V6 AT in it, so should be safe there.
@stickguy said:
my TL has 175K on it. No worries at all about the engine going a lot longer. the tranny, well, that BMW doesn't have a Honda V6 AT in it, so should be safe there.
Believe me.... the 205K on the engine is what has me the most worried. So much of the rest of the car has been re-done and modified/improved that it doesn't bother me. But, that's why I'm getting a PPI. If the engine gets a clean bill of health, and they don't find any other large issues, then it's probably a done deal.
Of course, if it was an automatic transmission, I'd never take a chance on it, unless it had a recent rebuild..
Well, once I sell the Solara I'll have no cars with under 100K on them. Tow run like new pretty much and go through no oil. One burns a little oil - just enough to check on it every couple of weeks - but would drive any of them anywhere without a second thought. The 00 Accord I finally gave my oldest daughter when she moved out has over 320k and she put on dog miles.
2015 Mazda 6 Grand Touring, 2014 Mazda 3 Sport Hatchback, 1999 Mazda Miata 2004 Toyota Camry LE, 1999.
I had some Family Court assignments(Oh joy!) in Northern KY, so last night I stopped by the local VW dealer. The two guys I talked to seemed to actually know what they were talking about and indicated that there would be no problem ordering a GTI to my specifications. My wife had suggested that I should see if they would offer a larger discount if I bought 2(one for RB Jr. and one for me) but I quickly nixed that idea- I'm more than content with the MS3 and if I flip it the Mazda's successor will almost certainly be RWD. That said, I'll probably give them a shot at getting my business- if that's the way my son wants to go.
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I always say VW is something I would lease. I'm not a lease type but VW hasn't convinced me that they either have their near-Lucas electrical systems fixed or have taken the North Koreans out of customer service.
2015 Mazda 6 Grand Touring, 2014 Mazda 3 Sport Hatchback, 1999 Mazda Miata 2004 Toyota Camry LE, 1999.
@fezo said:
I can get into pretty much anything. I'm plenty short. Lots of mer misses on autotrader. Anyone feel free to do a 100 mile search of zip 08050. No automatics, no orange interiors, no white cars.....
There is a nice looking yellow one around the corner from me. Guy had it out for sale for a good month, along with his boat. Now he pulled the Miata back by the garage and took the sign off it. Not sure what the deal is. I kept thinking about stopping for a look, though.
Man, that interior on the black one looks awfully beat up and filthy for that asking price.
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Maybe so, but I would expect the battery to recharge when she drives it. She commutes about 15-20 miles a day plus errands and such, so it is not as if the car sits.
AAA is on their way to give me a jump and then I'll run it over to the Mazda dealer.
How annoying! I bet the battery isn't even under the B2B warranty. I think a lot of manufacturers only warrant the battery for the first 12 months/12k.
Test drive - 2015 GTI \ SE \ DSG:
Coming from a 2013 GTI, the 2015 does strike me as a significant evolution of the breed – and a useful further development.
Going in to the test drive, I had 3 primary concerns:
1 – virtually the same MPG as my 2013, but a smaller gas tank – limiting range \ miles I can drive between visits to the service station - yuk.
2 – fabric sunshade for the sunroof – yuk.
3 – to have a sunroof, you MUST now have black [ only interior color ] leather. The plaid seats I have now, since they are cloth, are fine with me. Another big yuk.
Well, this was an interesting drive. IMHO, the 2015 is a very good car – and the only one at [ or near ] the price point that I personally find particularly appealing.
The drive is engaging – but not significantly better than my 2013 in any individual way.
The additional TQ [ plus 50 ] I believe, but it appears that it takes a bit longer for the turbo to spool up & actually deliver that thrust. One thing I like about my 2013 is generally very little ‘turbo lag’.
The leather seats [ required \ included with versions above the base ‘S’ model ] are very similar in comfort and support to those in my 2013.
The DSG transmission appears to be slightly improved in responsiveness – but mine is already quite good in that respect. I have read that it is improved in stop & slow heavy traffic. I did not try this, but would before I’d make a final decision.
The transmission ratios are rather dramatically changed, at least in fifth and top gears. The RPM at 60, 70 and 75 that I noted are quite substantially reduced, compared to my 2013. My ** GUESS ** is that this might improve ‘real world’ highway MPG, though the EPA numbers are virtually unchanged.
The ride and handling are still quite good.
Again, I find this a good effort at improvement & evolution by VW – on an already very good effort.
But it did not leave me lusting after a new one.
= Ray
Mostly satisfied with a 2013 – for now . . .
Thanks Ray; going to start looking for a base GTI mit der DSG for RB Jr.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Nice review, thanks. Also enjoyed your updates on the 2013. Since the lease on my 335i is up in the spring of 2016 I have (naturally) been window shopping for 6 months now
Of course this far out I am looking at multiple options and paths. Its really dependent on if I am still enjoying the ZHP as much as I am now.
If that holds I could see myself going something more economical (GTI, GLI, A3) for a DD as I never intend on DDing the ZHP. Can't see my self doing a 4cyl 3 Series though. Had one for a service loaner and while it wasn't bad, I just can't wrap my mind around it.
If for one reason or another I decide to part ways with the ZHP the next ride will undoubtedly be something to satisfy the premium sporty itch. IE another 335i, 435i, or if I really wanted to break the bank (which I don't!) a 435i GC.
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Nice write up/review on the new GTI. I'm glad too that you are still holding your 2013 GTI in such high regard.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
Ausgezeichnet !!!!
Small tanks and short range drives me nuts.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
@rayainsw I thought the new one was rated 25/34 vs. the old one at 21/30? That seems like a fairly substantial difference, though range is still low. (or maybe those are stickshift numbers?)
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GTI MPG.
I have only looked at the DSG [ since that is what I drive & would buy ] - the 2015 is rated at 25\33 - the 2013 is 24\33.
Thanks for the sharing the experience with the 2015 GTI. A lot of reviews in the mags and on VW forums seem to claim this new version is so much better than the MK6. It's nice to hear your "real world" experience and comparison reflecting that while it's certainly an improvement, it's not leaps and bounds better (which makes used MK6's still very attractive).
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Warranty work went without a hitch...they secured the weather stripping on the rear doors and did a cleaning service on the a/c system, gratis, for that mildewy odor so I hope this has solved the two issues I've had. A different service writer took care of me and had me come in on Saturday afternoon and though they had a full waiting room, he got me out within a couple of hours. Am very pleased so far with the Hyundai service on both vehicles and hoping the wife will check out the Elantra.
In their road trip, the "at" icon came on so there is a tranny issue that will need to be dealt with. Not sure what she will do but if it isn't a major expense, she might just do it and keep it a bit longer. My opinion was to go test drive the new S version since I doubt she'd want the plainer model. Showed her a white S model in the parking lot where we ate dinner Saturday night and she liked it...a lot. Advised her to go drive the Accent, Elantra and Mazda3 S and decide which one fits her needs. Then we'll go from there but a shame really that she won't listen to me because it is really crazy to throw anymore green at her vehicle!
The Sandman
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2025 VW GTI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
What are you thinking constitutes "short range"?
For me, anything under 300 miles. I've been getting between 300 and 340 on a tank in my E-GT - about 70-80% city driving.
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Bought the '05 Mazda3s today back in '05 and a new problem cropped up on the road trip it took the last 13 days, the "at" light came on. Not sure what we plan to do yet but I know she will have our mechanic look at it and give us his opinion. I think this is the final straw and that we should just get what we can for it and move on. It has a tad over 137k on it and hate to throw anymore $ at it and I think the wife has finally had it to. Showed her a new Mazda3s the other night in white and she did really like it. While at the Hyundai dealer Saturday, I sat in a new Elantra and thought that it would be a good daily driver for her because I think she won't be happy with the smaller Accent. But I think it's going to come down to these three contenders for her next daily driver and which one drives the best to her. My choice is for the Elantra, the SE model since she won't get a vehicle with a sunroof so the SE is really the best model for her. We'd also get a loyalty rebate since I bought another Hyundai recently, something I was able to get on mine since we already had another Hyundai model in the family. But it's her choice and as long as the color is charcoal, I'm happy with either really. The longer back to back warranty is also a good selling point for Hyundai but like I said, it's her vehicle and her funds so she will get what she really likes just as I did.
The sandman
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2025 VW GTI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
That's about my minimum tolerance on the range of a car as well. My MINI barely makes it at around 335 on a fill up, coasting in on a dead stick landing. I would prefer that a car do an "easy" 350.
For me, anything under 300 miles. I've been getting between 300 and 340 on a tank in my E-GT - about 70-80% city driving.
At fill up, the Tuscon range shows 367 miles. Not great but I guess for a CUV, not bad either. The one vehicle that I've been impressed with is the Nissan Altima and it's close to 600 mile range on a full tank...very impressive for a mid sizer indeed. And I've driven about 8 of them in the last week or so and have yet to feel that sensation between 1k and 2k that others have talked about...no shudder or anything out of the ordinary as I go up the power band and they've all been the new model, either a '13 or '14 model.
The Sandman
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2025 VW GTI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
My old Quest and Subaru usually got filled at 300 miles. The '09 Grand Caravan has had several 400 mile tanks now (20 gallon tank, 24ish mpg on the road). Pleasantly surprised.
Bluetec - 23 gallon tank, 40mpg capability on the highway - I can go a long way
Are you saying that if you ran it down to the fuel light, it would cost you close to $80-90 to fill it?
Ouch.
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Diesel around $4/gallon, yep.
I am usually itching to fill it up by around a quarter tank.
Range? 300 local, 400+ highway. I also fill up with a quarter tank left. Max when the light comes on, but to me that is too low.
300 on the highway is bad. 200 around town. Sadly that is what our RDX does. At 17 or so local, 27 highway, on a 16 gallon tank ( so IMO 13 usable) that is 220 local and 350 highway. If I hyper mile and hit 30, and run into the light, 400 at the max (and a nervous tic!). That truck heeds 18-18.5 gallon tank, minimum. And traffic and barely 300 highway
My daughter leaves for college soon. 440 miles each way. I need something with better range! I liked the Altima. 18.5 gal tank, easy 36-38 mpg highway.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
The limited range is one thing that I dislike about all of my cars. The Pilot with its massive 21 gallon tank is averaging 281.2 miles per tank over the past 10,969 miles (15.8 mpg average).
The BMW sucks down super at a rate of 21 mpg with an average range of 317.4 miles over the past 17,458 miles.
My Prelude is the most economical vehicle. 23.6 mpg over 2,438 miles with an average of 270.9 miles per fill up.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
Yep, the Altima is great in this respect. Drove one Friday that had a full tank and about 500 miles as its range...very impressive actually! For the $, I think it's one of the better mid sizers out in the market today. A bit boring in the style department but hey, those mileage figures ain't too bad at all!
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2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2025 VW GTI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
Range between 430 and well over 500 on my 2013 Honda Accord, depending on what kind of driving. I love that I can drive from mid-Ohio to Philly on 1 tank of gas. Haven't made it 600 yet as there is usually a reason to fill up well before that, such as entering a long stretch with no gas stations.
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If I ever let my daughter have a car at school, I will make sure it can easily make the trip without refueling. Certainly going to limit the options!
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
If it's just commuting, by BMW will do around 25-26 MPG, and I can bump up against 400 miles before the light comes on (2 gallons left).
If my son drives the car, then I'm looking for gas at about 320 miles..
My '02 CR-V had a tiny tank.. coupled with 23-24 mpg, I almost never broke 300, before filling up..
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Update on the '95 M3..
We thought about it... and thought about it.. and.. well, anyway, the owner is taking it to a local euro indy shop for an PPI on Thursday..
Here is the ad, to refresh your memory...
http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/4544968422.html
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Worth a flyer I think. You only Live once!
I called about the doorstop I saw on Saturday. It is a 1999 Mcoupe (the hardtop version if the Z3 M roadster). Indy shop selling for a customer (more like he has it parked out front I think). About 100k on it. For price, he thought the last offer received wax about 18.5k.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
I love those.. Their annual gathering is called DorkFest, though... so, it's an acquired taste. The '99 has the same 240 HP motor as the one we are looking at (well.. slightly different, but basically the same). In 2001, I think, they got the 316 HP motor out of the next M3.. Those are just stupid fast, and stupid expensive..
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some years ago (maybe 2005?) a local (huge) used car dealer (they primarily sell 2-3 YO off lease cars, and a lot of them) had a 1998 (I think) dark green M roadster. it was gorgeous, and pretty cheap for what it was as best as I can remember. Never drove it, but dreamed about it.
from what I recall about those, they could bit you bad since the suspension was not well suited for the application, but there was a kit you could get to upgrade it.
Probably a wildly entertaining beast to drive. A Germanic Cobra in a way.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
My old four cylinder 2009 Altima had a 20 gallon tank. I did several 500+ mile tanks and one 575 mile tank (and even then it didn't take 20 gallons to refill it)! The GLI will usually go ~400+ miles on a tank. Close to 500 if you're on a long highway trip and keep your foot out of it.
Well, I'm about to sell one - my 07 Solara that my daughter's boyfriend borrowed long enough that he finally decided to make an offer.
My big question now is whether to find just the right used Miata or use some of the money to soup up my 04 Mazda 6 wagon. With that 3.0 V6 it's plenty peppy. Throw on some new, nice shocks, springs and whatever do dads. At the right time performance tires. Cheaper than another car and saves insuring another but that Miata or E46 convertible itch does still exist......
Miatas are pretty cheap and you don't need a lot of power to have fun in one. I'd avoid very early ones (1990-91), and automatics. Also be sure you fit in one.
Sounds like diesel is in her future!
How far does she need to go? More than 500 miles? Plenty of options for that.
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Here's one. Definitely need to make sure you can climb in.
I can get into pretty much anything. I'm plenty short. Lots of mer misses on autotrader. Anyone feel free to do a 100 mile search of zip 08050. No automatics, no orange interiors, no white cars.....
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205K is a lot of miles, but now that I think about it my Prelude has 152.5K on it. I have no reason to believe it won't easily surpass the 200K mark (with proper maintenance of course). So if my Prelude can do it, why not a hand built German motor from the mid 90's?
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
You, Sir... are an enabler..
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my TL has 175K on it. No worries at all about the engine going a lot longer. the tranny, well, that BMW doesn't have a Honda V6 AT in it, so should be safe there.
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Believe me.... the 205K on the engine is what has me the most worried. So much of the rest of the car has been re-done and modified/improved that it doesn't bother me. But, that's why I'm getting a PPI. If the engine gets a clean bill of health, and they don't find any other large issues, then it's probably a done deal.
Of course, if it was an automatic transmission, I'd never take a chance on it, unless it had a recent rebuild..
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simple enough. If not leaking, smoking or burning, and the compression test is good, the innards sound OK.
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Well, once I sell the Solara I'll have no cars with under 100K on them. Tow run like new pretty much and go through no oil. One burns a little oil - just enough to check on it every couple of weeks - but would drive any of them anywhere without a second thought. The 00 Accord I finally gave my oldest daughter when she moved out has over 320k and she put on dog miles.
I had some Family Court assignments(Oh joy!) in Northern KY, so last night I stopped by the local VW dealer. The two guys I talked to seemed to actually know what they were talking about and indicated that there would be no problem ordering a GTI to my specifications. My wife had suggested that I should see if they would offer a larger discount if I bought 2(one for RB Jr. and one for me) but I quickly nixed that idea- I'm more than content with the MS3 and if I flip it the Mazda's successor will almost certainly be RWD. That said, I'll probably give them a shot at getting my business- if that's the way my son wants to go.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
I always say VW is something I would lease. I'm not a lease type but VW hasn't convinced me that they either have their near-Lucas electrical systems fixed or have taken the North Koreans out of customer service.
here's a nice one--full retail pricing but it seems very well cared for (unlike many Miatas).
http://southjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4527359470.html
Sounds clean. Bad color. Hate the wheels. And nice job losing the modest trunk space with the silly amp.
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There is a nice looking yellow one around the corner from me. Guy had it out for sale for a good month, along with his boat. Now he pulled the Miata back by the garage and took the sign off it. Not sure what the deal is. I kept thinking about stopping for a look, though.
Man, that interior on the black one looks awfully beat up and filthy for that asking price.
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By all means ask. You're even in my county. I should have added no first generation because you can't fit a guitar in the trunk.