Up here the city charges a fee (many call it a ditch tax) for storm sewer maintenance and construction. They assess each property for the amount of impervious area (roof, driveway, walkway, etc) and use that to determine the amount of runoff and hence your bill. Cockamamie bureaucracy run amok. I don't know how they would assess a yard full of rock. I suppose someone would have to measure the area of large impervious rocks versus pea gravel or other porous types of rock coverage.
Yeah, it rains a bit here.
You could install a bioswale; I think the bureaucrats would have to take that into consideration when coming up with your taxation. Not only are they both creative and effective, but they also add a splash of beauty to dreary (utilitarian) infrastructure (roads, sidewalks, etc).
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BYOB and maybe BYOJ (as in job?). That seems to be a big issue for a lot of cheaper areas, at least in terms of private sector work. I'd have no problem not having a lawn - desert style lawns are fine. I never got the attraction of having a pool either - a literal money pit.
Had the old project car out on the road, drove 40 miles exactly. No issues, started right up and ran like a top, as usual turned a few heads, and even got a thumbs up from a guy in a Mazda 3. It did have a quirk - soon after I started off, I could hear a noise coming from the driver's side rear wheel area, where the brake issue was several weeks ago. I think something was sticking again, probably the parking brake as I had just released it. Something to add to the list when it goes in for its yearly service next month. On top of that, I think the shocks are getting old - I pulled them off a parts car 15 years ago, and they seem to be a little clunky now.
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You could install a bioswale; I think the bureaucrats would have to take that into consideration when coming up with your taxation. Not only are they both creative and effective, but they also add a splash of beauty to dreary (utilitarian) infrastructure (roads, sidewalks, etc).
They seem not to care about the quality of the liquid entering their storm sewer, only the volume. So I don't think that would help much. Nice idea though, I like that.
Hey, sounds cool. Not sure what my plans are on Sunday, but if I might make it out there, don't know if I would take the old dear or just go and look. It'd be interesting to know the mix, as my car is kind of out of place among Mustangs, Tri-Chevies, and 71 Chevelles.
Where I live is moderately expensive IMHO (although not compared to NY, CA, or the Pacific NW), but look what $139K gets you in my old hometown, an hour and a half east of here:
I'd like to move back...my wife is against it...have to drive 15 or 20 miles to shop at a Target...that's what it's about I guess.
Population of town is 5,900, but there is seven or eight miles of rural area surrounding the town, and those people consider themselves residents of the town too.
There is a small college in town, established 1866, and a University of Pittsburgh hospital in town. Ten miles from a state park. It's in a valley. Small-town Main St.
This house has almost zero lot, but it looks nice from the street. This is S. Main St., and it's a street of primarily older, larger, pretty well-kept homes.
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Hey, sounds cool. Not sure what my plans are on Sunday, but if I might make it out there, don't know if I would take the old dear or just go and look. It'd be interesting to know the mix, as my car is kind of out of place among Mustangs, Tri-Chevies, and 71 Chevelles.
Where I live is moderately expensive IMHO (although not compared to NY, CA, or the Pacific NW), but look what $139K gets you in my old hometown, an hour and a half east of here:
I'd like to move back...my wife is against it...have to drive 15 or 20 miles to shop at a Target...that's what it's about I guess.
Population of town is 5,900, but there is seven or eight miles of rural area surrounding the town, and those people consider themselves residents of the town too.
There is a small college in town, established 1866, and a University of Pittsburgh hospital in town. Ten miles from a state park. It's in a valley. Small-town Main St.
This house has almost zero lot, but it looks nice from the street. This is S. Main St., and it's a street of primarily older, larger, pretty well-kept homes.
Possibly. Don't know if I want to stick around a whole day for the show, but maybe I will drive it if I finish other obligations. Weather forecast looks good.
Just noodling around the 'net, and came across this. Price seems ridiculous, but an interesting oddball to me. Wish it didn't have dog-dish caps--I had thought the Ventura option got you wheelcovers; it even included skirts in '66--but maybe not.
The Ventura option on the Catalina got you the Executive interior and exterior trim on the shorter wheelbase. Of course, the wagons all had the same wheelbase though, and the Executive wagon included woodgrain paneling standard.
I'm pretty sure I have never seen a 1970 Ventura of any bodystyle, and was surprised to see this wagon.
I used to dislike big '70 Pontiacs, but I've grown to like them mostly because I NEVER see them!
No way to know I bet, but I'm sure the combo of Ventura option on a wagon, with 3-speed, is probably single-digit production.
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When I saw the interior, I realized that this is a base LeSabre. Seems like I saw a lot more LeSabre Custom models.
This is the only '73 LeSabre or Centurion I've seen with the "455" emblem above the body side molding; but then, normally there is a "Custom" nameplate where the "455" emblem is on this car. I have to believe that the vast majority of base LeSabres were 350's.
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I'd guess you're right because thinking back to earlier Buicks I don't believe Invicta's or Wildcats were near the volume in sales of the base model LeSabre's. People seemed to mostly buy a LeSabre or an Electra. Personally though, I liked the Wildcat.
Where I live is moderately expensive IMHO (although not compared to NY, CA, or the Pacific NW), but look what $139K gets you in my old hometown, an hour and a half east of here:
I'd like to move back...my wife is against it...have to drive 15 or 20 miles to shop at a Target...that's what it's about I guess.
Population of town is 5,900, but there is seven or eight miles of rural area surrounding the town, and those people consider themselves residents of the town too.
There is a small college in town, established 1866, and a University of Pittsburgh hospital in town. Ten miles from a state park. It's in a valley. Small-town Main St.
This house has almost zero lot, but it looks nice from the street. This is S. Main St., and it's a street of primarily older, larger, pretty well-kept homes.
That kind of money wouldn't buy ANYTHING in the greater Seattle area! Not even a one bedroom dumpy condo in the worst possible neighborhood!
When I saw the interior, I realized that this is a base LeSabre. Seems like I saw a lot more LeSabre Custom models.
This is the only '73 LeSabre or Centurion I've seen with the "455" emblem above the body side molding; but then, normally there is a "Custom" nameplate where the "455" emblem is on this car. I have to believe that the vast majority of base LeSabres were 350's.
Dad's company car before we moved to Europe in June '74 was a '73 Pontiac Catalina sedan in that exact color, only it also had a light tan vinyl roof and medium brown vinyl interior. At the time I really liked the color as it was different than the conservative colors that were so common on 4 door Catalinas. I can't tell from the picture of the LeSabre what color interior it has, brown or black?
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I don't think I could tolerate the speed for highway driving, but I like the color and the rare options on this car, and it looks like a genuinely nice example - seat issue is a common quirk and easy enough to remedy.
I was thinking the same, around 5K. It's more interesting than a W123 to me, and I suspect it has been cared for. I think something like this could be suitable for a daily driver, but I don't know how comfortably it could cruise for hours at 70 mph, which is something that comes up now and then.
They're ok, you just settle down, let the world go by, and get used to that comforting steady drone. Just don't plan on passing anyone while going uphill, or climbing mountain passes anywhere but the right lane. Also, accelerating on freeway on-ramps that aren't very long can be dicey.
Make sure the engine starts up immediately. Any prolonged cranking on these old diesels is a warning sign for sure.
Also, look for oil residue in the air filter, which is a sign of excessive blowby.
You can't tell much by the dipstick, because on these old timey diesels the oil gets dirty in a few hundred miles.
If Bergsma gave the car a clean bill of health, I would believe it - he has a huge rep and is known to be honest. I don't think I could deal with something like that on a daily basis though, it's roughly as old as I am and can probably be just as cranky Neat car though, if I never drove on the freeway or across mountains, maybe more appealing.
I missed that '73 LeSabre, and it looks like the post was removed. What color was it? As for 1970 Pontiacs, I'm finding that I like them more and more, too. I always did like them from the side, but just was never so crazy about the front-end.
I think big Pontiacs in general started losing their magic in the 1970's, as they tried to be all things to all people. They still tried to be somewhat sporty, but in a "neoclassic" way, with their often too-tall, narrow grilles and such, and the sculpting often came off as a bit too pimpy. Chevy did great for the most part, with a look that was upscale and in some years a bit Cadillac-ish. I think Buicks actually started doing the "sporty big car" look better than Pontiac, as they seemed a bit sleeker and cleaner. And if you wanted something more conservative, Olds was a good choice.
I saw a 1976 Bonneville Brougham coupe over the weekend, in that goldish-brown color that was so common, with a matching interior. For being a "Brougham", it certainly didn't seem all that ritzy inside. Once upon a time, a Bonneville Brougham gave you an interior about on par with an Electra or Ninety-Eight, just in a B-body size. But, I've seen '76 Caprices that looked more upscale inside than this one did.
It wouldn't be my first choice, but that Grand Prix does wear it well. I think the white top and Rally wheels, and pinstripes help set it off. Curbside Classics is showing a '73 LeSabre here, and it looks to be that color.
I always thought those downsized big Pontiacs had a nice dash, same for the similar era Buick's.
Yeah, same here. While I started losing interest in the big Pontiacs for '71-76, the downsized '77 models regained their status as my favorite GM big car. One thing I really liked about the dash was that it was designed for extra gauges...even if they were optional. With Chevy, it always looked like the extra gauges were sort of tacked on. And, IIRC, they were inconsistent. Some years they'd give you temp and amps, but some years it was temp and a vacuum gauge for fuel economy. Olds stuck the extra gauges down low on the dash, and I don't think the downsized big Buicks ever did offer extra gauges. My 1985 Consumer Guide mentions something about an optional gauge package on the LeSabre, but I'm pretty sure that was a typo.
I thought the Pontiac dash had a nice, upscale look to it, as well, whereas the Chevy dash seemed to have too much plastic, and too many pieces. The Buick dash was nice, although for some reason I never liked the clock on the right side of the dash...just seemed too out of place. And the tiny, low-mounted glove box on the Buicks bugged me...I always wondered why they didn't just mount it higher, between the HVAC ducts, where there seems to be a lot of wasted space. The Olds dash seemed like it was good quality, but its design seemed a bit haphazard, and the Olds speedometers tended to compress the numbers towards the center a bit to the extreme.
Sadly though, the downsized Pontiacs didn't do all that well with the general public. The Bonneville actually sold fairly well, but the Catalina was a poor seller, and I don't think either one sold as well as Pontiac had hoped.
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I rode in it to the reception. The ride was not smooth.
In terms of looking at it strictly from a financial/budget point of view, this car is worth nothing.
Where I live is moderately expensive IMHO (although not compared to NY, CA, or the Pacific NW), but look what $139K gets you in my old hometown, an hour and a half east of here:
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I'd like to move back...my wife is against it...have to drive 15 or 20 miles to shop at a Target...that's what it's about I guess.
Population of town is 5,900, but there is seven or eight miles of rural area surrounding the town, and those people consider themselves residents of the town too.
There is a small college in town, established 1866, and a University of Pittsburgh hospital in town. Ten miles from a state park. It's in a valley. Small-town Main St.
This house has almost zero lot, but it looks nice from the street. This is S. Main St., and it's a street of primarily older, larger, pretty well-kept homes.
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The best built one was the 100 year old one (unlike cars, imo). That said, we redid the plumbing and electrical in that old house.
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Here's what a million dollars buys in my zipcode - thanks dopey laws. speculators, and newbies
Just in case the hosts are irked, there's a somewhat hidden occasionally active housing-themed thread here:
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1970 Pontiac Ventura wagon; 3-speed trans:
http://www.stationwagonforums.com/forums/threads/1970-pontiac-ventura-wagon-3-speed-manual-nj-c-l.41339/
The Ventura option on the Catalina got you the Executive interior and exterior trim on the shorter wheelbase. Of course, the wagons all had the same wheelbase though, and the Executive wagon included woodgrain paneling standard.
I'm pretty sure I have never seen a 1970 Ventura of any bodystyle, and was surprised to see this wagon.
I used to dislike big '70 Pontiacs, but I've grown to like them mostly because I NEVER see them!
No way to know I bet, but I'm sure the combo of Ventura option on a wagon, with 3-speed, is probably single-digit production.
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Doesn't look too loaded, but a good period color, not too pricey
When I saw the interior, I realized that this is a base LeSabre. Seems like I saw a lot more LeSabre Custom models.
This is the only '73 LeSabre or Centurion I've seen with the "455" emblem above the body side molding; but then, normally there is a "Custom" nameplate where the "455" emblem is on this car. I have to believe that the vast majority of base LeSabres were 350's.
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I don't think I could tolerate the speed for highway driving, but I like the color and the rare options on this car, and it looks like a genuinely nice example - seat issue is a common quirk and easy enough to remedy.
Make sure the engine starts up immediately. Any prolonged cranking on these old diesels is a warning sign for sure.
Also, look for oil residue in the air filter, which is a sign of excessive blowby.
You can't tell much by the dipstick, because on these old timey diesels the oil gets dirty in a few hundred miles.
Those NY plates are pretty unattractive.
I think big Pontiacs in general started losing their magic in the 1970's, as they tried to be all things to all people. They still tried to be somewhat sporty, but in a "neoclassic" way, with their often too-tall, narrow grilles and such, and the sculpting often came off as a bit too pimpy. Chevy did great for the most part, with a look that was upscale and in some years a bit Cadillac-ish. I think Buicks actually started doing the "sporty big car" look better than Pontiac, as they seemed a bit sleeker and cleaner. And if you wanted something more conservative, Olds was a good choice.
I saw a 1976 Bonneville Brougham coupe over the weekend, in that goldish-brown color that was so common, with a matching interior. For being a "Brougham", it certainly didn't seem all that ritzy inside. Once upon a time, a Bonneville Brougham gave you an interior about on par with an Electra or Ninety-Eight, just in a B-body size. But, I've seen '76 Caprices that looked more upscale inside than this one did.
Very 1970s indeed.
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I thought the Pontiac dash had a nice, upscale look to it, as well, whereas the Chevy dash seemed to have too much plastic, and too many pieces. The Buick dash was nice, although for some reason I never liked the clock on the right side of the dash...just seemed too out of place. And the tiny, low-mounted glove box on the Buicks bugged me...I always wondered why they didn't just mount it higher, between the HVAC ducts, where there seems to be a lot of wasted space. The Olds dash seemed like it was good quality, but its design seemed a bit haphazard, and the Olds speedometers tended to compress the numbers towards the center a bit to the extreme.
Sadly though, the downsized Pontiacs didn't do all that well with the general public. The Bonneville actually sold fairly well, but the Catalina was a poor seller, and I don't think either one sold as well as Pontiac had hoped.