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First lease for me, so patience greatly appreciated. I'm finally seeing the game, especially between the lease ad and what you're potentially hit with in the end. But, I'm up for the challenge...
Three questions...
1) 2017 MDX AWD Base 12K 36 month lease has MF of 0.00050, RV of 55%? (was 58% last month), and $3000. incentive.
2) Saw an MDX Tri-State NYC TV ad last night for AWD Base 10K 36 month lease with "net capitalized cost" of $40,773.75 - that is also referred to as the "adjusted capital cost", correct?
3) This net capitalized cost "includes the $595 acquisition fee" and a "total payment of $2499.00" is due at signing. SO... they are "selling" the car for "$43272.75"... in the ad... and the purchaser is "giving" them a total of $2499. at closing. BUT they also say the figure does not include the mandatory stuff (tax, license, title, registration, doc fee ($75 in New York State, correct?), options, insurance) AND "the like"! "The Like" = the "dealer fees" or any fees they can dream up, correct? That's where the price negotiating occurs, correct?
Thanks in advance for your info!
2) Yes, "net cap" and "adjusted cap" are the same thing
3) There is no dealer fee in NY; the $75 doc fee is what is charged. NY also taxes the sum of the payments and collects that money up front; we suggest you add that amount into the net cap cost, along with all other fees except the DMV or registration costs.
You should be able to negotiate a better price than the one in the ad.
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Been looking for 3 row SUVs and settled on the MDX.
Went to a dealer today and feel like a I got good lease numbers but almost felt to easy.
Wanted to run it by you guys before committing.
Base AWD Acura MDX 36months/10,000 miles
MSRP 47,025
Discount 7,900
Total Adjusted Cap Cost: 39125
MF: not sure but calculated at "top tier" didnt run credit yet
residual 58% (27,274.50)
No money down
First month payment + reg fee (135), title, doc and vehicle fee (395) + Aquisition fee (595) + tax on cash down (61.88) + 1,571.91 total up front dues.
Monthly payment after taxes (6.25%) comes out to 385.03 per month.
Sounds like a pretty good deal. Didn't have to negotiate much to get there. Should I push for more. Check out other dealerships? Do you think I could as for 12,000/year for same monthly costs? Or should I take it before they take it off the table. Gave me 48 hours to think about it. Sales person was really nice. Dealership overall got great reviews online.
Thanks a bunch!!!
Looks like a real strong deal.
Only thing I'd do differently is add the acquisition and doc fees to the selling price.
Payment goes up to $414.77, but up front costs come down to about $550.
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You are paying for whatever mileage allotment you sign up for, whether you use it or not.
Acura does offer a 7500 mile per year allowance - would that work?
If you take halfway decent care of the car, having kids shouldn't penalize you at the end of the lease.
You may want to consider a gently used CPO vehicle.
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36/12 and 36/15
Advance package
$3250 lease incentives
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I called the dealership back today. They had run my credit and it didn't look like I was in the top tier of credit and that would increase my monthly payments to $515 compared to 414.77 that you had mentioned with Doc and acquisition fees rolled in. Can increase in MF increase lease cost by a 100 dollars a month? Seems like a lot.
.00080 would only add about $25/mo, but .00370 would add $200+.
It's possible they are marking up the rate, as well, if you don't qualify for top tier, but we wouldn't be able to ascertain that.
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Again, new at leasing - in NY. Lots of questions...
So, I should
1. Negotiate the Gross Cap Cost with the dealer as if I am buying the car?
2. Get the $3000 lease incentive?
3. Take all of the fees ($595 bank fee, $75 NYS doc fee, are there other fees?) AND the upfront NYS tax on the total payments AND apply them to the Adjusted Cap Cost - meaning I pay them at closing? (and no tax is added to the monthly payment figure?)
4. And, of course, also pay the DMV title and registration at closing.
Am I naively missing anything?
Thanks!
2. Yes
3. Add those costs to the value of (2) - do not pay them at signing
4. Yes, pay registration / DMV costs, along with first payment, when you sign the paperwork
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New to lease. What is lease incentive? and how can I use this when leasing an MDX? is this an additional discount on top of the negotiated price?
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Thank you for the great help you have provided in the last 5 years. I really appreciate it.
That being said, I have few questions I would like to ask.
1) Do you have any information on the Acura pull back or pull ahead program which is basically when they want to there leased car vehicle back earlier than the contract end date, (varies between 3 to 6 months) sometimes. If you have that information, can you tell me what is the current offer?
2) The lease incentive of $3250 which is offered, is it something already accounted for in the dealer discount being offered on price of vehicle ?
3) I need numbers and incentives for MDX Tech FWD 12k miles. and MDC advance FWD 12k miles and MDX Sport Hybrid FWD 12k miles.
4) I have a current TLX lease with 7 payments of $524.00 left. Can the dealer use the $3668 for those payments to offset the $3250 incentive ? Right now the dealer is saying , pull ahead program is only for 3 months, so I will basically have to trade in the vehicle. Trading in the price will not be as good even though I'm under mileage.
MSRP: $51,435.00
Selling Price: $48,132.00
Doc: $172.00
Taxes: $2,182.00
Gross Cap Cost: $56,856.00
Dealer Cash: $3,250.00
Cash Cap Reduction: $1,888.00
Negative Equity: $5,947.00
Adjusted Cap Cost: $51,718.00
Plates: $221.00
Down payment: $3,500.00
Monthly payment: $719.00
Can you tell me if this is a good deal? I think she flipped the residual values...
2017 MDX SH-AWD with technology package
MSRP - 51,435
Sales Price: 43,882
MF - .0005
Residual 53% for 36 month / 12K
27,260.55 RV
$1437 Down - upfront fees / 1st payment / acq fee / tags / fees
Payment: 511.48 includes Tax
For 36 month / 15K
MF - .0005
residual 55%
RV - 28,289.25
$1468 Down - upfront fees / 1st payment / acq fee / tags / fees
Payment $542.06
I'm in PA.
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2. Any offer from the dealer is likely to include those incentives; use the knowledge of the incentives to negotiate your best price
3. Tech/Adv FWD - .00050 and 55%; Hybrid - .00170 and 55%
4. Trying to end a lease early is usually an expensive proposition; those existing payments have to go somewhere. Generally, the trade value is far less than the payoff - do you know what those numbers are, so you know how deep the hole is? Can you hold out until the current lease is up?
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2017 SH-AWD w/ tech pkg
MSRP: $51,435.00
Selling Price: $48,132.00
Doc: $172.00
Taxes: $2,182.00
Gross Cap Cost: $56,856.00
Dealer Cash: $3,250.00
Cash Cap Reduction: $1,888.00
Negative Equity: $5,947.00
Adjusted Cap Cost: $51,718.00
Plates: $221.00
Down payment: $3,500.00
Monthly payment: $719.00
Price seems high, any help is appreciated
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You'll also have local DMV fees and taxes.
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Is this a good deal it’s true zero down sign and drive. Here is the lease breakdown on the 2017 Acura MDX AWD that you are interested in. This is based on 36 months and 15,000 miles a year.
Vehicle Price (MSRP):$47,025.00
Sale Price:$41,000.00
Down Payment:$0
Residual Value:$25,863.75
Monthly Base Payment:$470.71
Monthly Sales Tax (95833):$38.83
Total Monthly Payment:$509.54
2017 AWD MDX with Tech
selling price $45,435
Trade: 3,000
Cash Cap reduction:$2,000
Net Cap Costs: $42,540
Residual Value: $28,804
Payment: $405
I plan to buy out at the end of the lease but unfortunately unforeseen circumstances have me in a bit of a bind at the moment. Could anyone comment on this deal? Thanks in advance for any/all help.
The negative equity is going to add a lot to the payment. Any way you can hold off on this and try to lower than number?
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What lease term and how many miles per year?
We don't suggest using trade equity or up front cash as cap reduction - that money will be lost if the car is stolen or totaled.
What state and tax rate?
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15k miles / 36 months
I agree with the math on that quote.
The negative equity is adding $165/mo to the payment.
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RE: 2017 SH-AWD w/t tech pkg - MSRP: $51,435 in Connecticut
36 Mos / 10 mi.
1. Residual Value?
2. Money Factor?
3. Acquisition Fee?
4. Lease Incentives?
5. Any incentive for current lessee of another brand?
6. Any Factory Rebate(s)?
Thanks
$595 acquisition fee
$3250 total incentives
No conquest info
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FYI- I'm also in CT and just did my deal today. Not sure if I did OK or not but you can check my posts and feedback for info if that helps!
Excellent, good, fair, or poor deal outlined below?
Negotiated 2017 MDX Base AWD MSRP of $47025. down to $41263. online, including destination and splash guards. This is my third car from this dealer, first ever lease for me.
Arrived at dealer and attempted to get $3K lease incentive. Was told Acura MDX Base incentive was $2K for cash/finance and an additional $1K if leasing, for a total of $3K. Said $2K was already in negotiated price. They gave me an additional $1K off for leasing, so agreed price was $40263.
As you've recommended, put $595 acquisition fee and $1215.95 upfront New York State tax in Adjusted Capital Cost. Also, as you've recommended, did not want down payment. So...
Agreed price: $40263.00
Gross Cap Cost: $42073.95
Adjust Cap Cost: $42073.95 (agreed price, plus acquisition fee and upfront NYS tax)
Residual value: $26804.25
Depreciation: $15269.70
Finance charge: $1239.90
Total base Monthly: $16509.60
Monthly Payment: $458.60
Due at signing:
$458.60 1st month payment
$75.00 NYS doc. fee
$10.00 NYS inspection
____ NYS title/plates
____ NYS registration