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  • njspecialnjspecial Member Posts: 7
    Michaell said:

    njspecial said:

    New to lease world, could you help me with below please ?

    1) MF & residual value for Acadia SLT 2017 AWD (leather seat) for 36/12 & 36/10 - NJ state?
    2) is below a good deal ?

    MSRP: $46000.00
    Residual: $29364
    Due at signing: $3500 (taxes, doc fee, acquisition fee, dmv)
    monthly lease payment 459.79 (36 months)

    .00092 and 63% / 64%

    What is the selling price?

    What is the full breakdown of the $3500? That looks high for the items you've listed.
    sale price is 44,496.85

    i will ask you for the breakdown. but reading this forums online seems like high price to me as well. thank you all for guiding new lease car owners.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,634
    njspecial said:

    Michaell said:

    njspecial said:

    New to lease world, could you help me with below please ?

    1) MF & residual value for Acadia SLT 2017 AWD (leather seat) for 36/12 & 36/10 - NJ state?
    2) is below a good deal ?

    MSRP: $46000.00
    Residual: $29364
    Due at signing: $3500 (taxes, doc fee, acquisition fee, dmv)
    monthly lease payment 459.79 (36 months)

    .00092 and 63% / 64%

    What is the selling price?

    What is the full breakdown of the $3500? That looks high for the items you've listed.
    sale price is 44,496.85

    i will ask you for the breakdown. but reading this forums online seems like high price to me as well. thank you all for guiding new lease car owners.
    I get $486/mo for 36/10, using those numbers. My guess is that part of the $3500 is being used as cap reduction.

    Our suggestion is to limit the out of pocket costs to just the first payment and DMV costs - add everything else into the lease payment. Your payment will be higher but you'll minimize the risk of losing that up front money if the car is stolen or totaled.

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  • flydiane1000flydiane1000 Member Posts: 13
    Hi. Can you tell me if this was a good deal or not? 2017 Acadia AWD SLT1 36/12 MSRP $44,483 agreed upon value $43624 after incentives $40,966 I paid $2248 for 1st pmt, tax (NY 8.25%) & dmv fees. There also was a $595 acquisition fee (I didn't know about), $75 doc fee & $23 inspection/tire waste charge. My payments are $420 per month. I have been following your forum and I think this was all good. Was it? Thank you.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,634

    Hi. Can you tell me if this was a good deal or not? 2017 Acadia AWD SLT1 36/12 MSRP $44,483 agreed upon value $43624 after incentives $40,966 I paid $2248 for 1st pmt, tax (NY 8.25%) & dmv fees. There also was a $595 acquisition fee (I didn't know about), $75 doc fee & $23 inspection/tire waste charge. My payments are $420 per month. I have been following your forum and I think this was all good. Was it? Thank you.

    Acquisition fee is valid.

    Relative to MSRP, the payment looks good. Congrats!

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  • mpower22mpower22 Member Posts: 50
    GM is showing a "tagged" deal for Acadia denali's with 17% off MSRP. Can that incentive be used for leases? Its unclear on GMCs website if it for purchase only or no?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,634
    mpower22 said:

    GM is showing a "tagged" deal for Acadia denali's with 17% off MSRP. Can that incentive be used for leases? Its unclear on GMCs website if it for purchase only or no?

    I am almost certain that those large discounts are for purchase only.

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  • qman2011qman2011 Member Posts: 1
    Hi I am looking at a new lease. 2017 Acadia with SLE2 package with driver alert package. MSRP $39,400. After discounts and rebates, price is $36,230. a 36/10 lease, dealer is looking for $2,400 down, $402/month. They will also pay 4 months of my remaining lease with a competitor. Good Deal?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,634
    qman2011 said:

    Hi I am looking at a new lease. 2017 Acadia with SLE2 package with driver alert package. MSRP $39,400. After discounts and rebates, price is $36,230. a 36/10 lease, dealer is looking for $2,400 down, $402/month. They will also pay 4 months of my remaining lease with a competitor. Good Deal?

    .00092 and 64%

    With your prices, I get $362/mo before tax.

    What state and tax rate?

    What is the full breakdown of the $2400?

    Ask the dealer what the adjusted cap cost is - if higher than the selling price, find out what's been added.

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  • jpd1979jpd1979 Member Posts: 143
    edited March 2017
    Anyone have money factor, residual and incentives for the Acadia Denali AWD in the New York City area? 36/10k is what I'm looking for.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,634
    jpd1979 said:

    Anyone have money factor, residual and incentives for the Acadia Denali AWD in the New York City area? 36/10k is what I'm looking for.

    .00092 and 66%

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  • buffalo716buffalo716 Member Posts: 10
    Just bought a GMC SLE 2 in NY. 24 months 10k. 329 a month
    Msrp 38,000
    Cap cost 36232.92
    Tax rate of 8.75 %
    Invoice has the residual listed at 79.2% residual value of 30,105.
    Paid 0 out of pocket true sign and drive and they waived the 564 in payments I have on my old lease. Feel like I got a steal even though they might have marked up the money factor because I'm calculating it to be .0011 and not the .00092 because the rent charge is 1783.14.
    Thanks
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,634

    Just bought a GMC SLE 2 in NY. 24 months 10k. 329 a month
    Msrp 38,000
    Cap cost 36232.92
    Tax rate of 8.75 %
    Invoice has the residual listed at 79.2% residual value of 30,105.
    Paid 0 out of pocket true sign and drive and they waived the 564 in payments I have on my old lease. Feel like I got a steal even though they might have marked up the money factor because I'm calculating it to be .0011 and not the .00092 because the rent charge is 1783.14.
    Thanks

    Congrats! Looks like a great deal.

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  • csnyder335icsnyder335i Member Posts: 50
    Do you know the current incentives for the Acadia Denali that would apply to leases?  Been told there is a competitive lease pull ahead up to 1500-2000.   But I'm not seeing anything else.  Thanks for the help.  
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,634

    Do you know the current incentives for the Acadia Denali that would apply to leases?  Been told there is a competitive lease pull ahead up to 1500-2000.   But I'm not seeing anything else.  Thanks for the help.  

    No information on lease incentives.

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  • matanoosmatanoos Member Posts: 17
    Hi
    Anyone have money factor, residual and incentives for the Acadia Denali AWD in the Minneapolis MN area? 36/12k or 24/12 is what I'm looking for. Thanks
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,634
    matanoos said:

    Hi
    Anyone have money factor, residual and incentives for the Acadia Denali AWD in the Minneapolis MN area? 36/12k or 24/12 is what I'm looking for. Thanks

    24/12 - .00112 and 73%
    36/12 - .00092 and 65%

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  • matanoosmatanoos Member Posts: 17
    My dealer just emailed me his offer for 2017 Acadia Denali 36/12

    MSRP; $52850.00

    Discounts: $-4188.00

    Cap price: $48662.00

    MF : 0.0011531

    RV:33965.75 (64% right?)

    Sales Tax: $3345.51

    Dealer Doc. Fees: $75.00

    Registration Fee (est.): $725.00

    Other Fees: $53.50

    cost per month :$575.42

    What should be my lowest price if the right MF is : 0.00092 and RV is %65

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,634
    matanoos said:

    My dealer just emailed me his offer for 2017 Acadia Denali 36/12

    MSRP; $52850.00

    Discounts: $-4188.00

    Cap price: $48662.00

    MF : 0.0011531

    RV:33965.75 (64% right?)

    Sales Tax: $3345.51

    Dealer Doc. Fees: $75.00

    Registration Fee (est.): $725.00

    Other Fees: $53.50

    cost per month :$575.42

    What should be my lowest price if the right MF is : 0.00092 and RV is %65

    Using the MSRP and cap price provided, plus the base MF of .00092 and 36/12 residual of 65%, I get a payment of $474/mo plus tax.

    Find out what the adjusted cap cost is, and how the dealer got to that number from the selling price.

    Second, the MF is only a 5 digit number; did you calculate this yourself from the other numbers provided?

    Last, I thought MN taxes the monthly payment, so I'm not sure if you should simply ignore the tax amount in the dealer quote.

    How much is due at signing?

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  • matanoosmatanoos Member Posts: 17
    0 due sigining

    sales tax is 6.5%. its suppose to be from the selling price
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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,634
    matanoos said:


    Those do not look like GM Financial numbers, with so many decimal places in the MF.

    And, the fact that the MF changes for the same term, based on the amount due at signing, is another warning.

    Might want to reach out to another dealer; too many things don't add up.

    And, I still don't know about the taxes. I'm pretty certain that MN is not a state that taxes the entire selling price for a lease.

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  • matanoosmatanoos Member Posts: 17
    Thanks. I got another screen shot from another dealer: the actual selling price will be : $47,214





    What your numbers shows now?
  • matanoosmatanoos Member Posts: 17
    sorry the selling price will be $49,214
  • matanoosmatanoos Member Posts: 17
    also about the mn tax rate is : 7.275 and:

    Per the MN Dept. of Revenue -

    How to calculate the tax
    The total lease price subject to sales tax is calculated as
    shown. A description of terms follows:

    vehicle value
    - rebate
    - residual
    - trade in
    + add ons
    + interest/finance chg
    = taxable amount
    x tax rate
    = sales tax due


    Please let me know what are your numbers
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,095
    matanoos said:

    also about the mn tax rate is : 7.275 and:

    Per the MN Dept. of Revenue -

    How to calculate the tax
    The total lease price subject to sales tax is calculated as
    shown. A description of terms follows:

    vehicle value
    - rebate
    - residual
    - trade in
    + add ons
    + interest/finance chg
    = taxable amount
    x tax rate
    = sales tax due


    Please let me know what are your numbers

    Okay.. so, MN is basically taxing the sum of payments, and collecting it upfront. That makes sense.

    I come pretty close to the same numbers as calculated, naturally.

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  • slyman1873slyman1873 Member Posts: 17
    Good morning 
    Connecticut
    can I have the RV and MF for a 
    slt1 and sle2
    any incentives that they may have going on?
    should I wait for the 2018  transverse? 

    24/10
    39/10
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,095

    Good morning 
    Connecticut
    can I have the RV and MF for a 
    slt1 and sle2
    any incentives that they may have going on?
    should I wait for the 2018  transverse? 

    24/10
    39/10

    .00112 MF and 72% residual
    .00092 MF and 61% residual

    Either trim.

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  • matanoosmatanoos Member Posts: 17
    My dealer just emailed me his offer for 2017 Acadia Denali 36/12

    MSRP; $52285.00

    GRS CAP COST 50523.75

    CAP REDUCTN 900.00
    -----------------------
    NET CAP COST 50867.61

    Selling price: $49,214

    other fees including acquisition fee $639 ($595 its from gm finance dont know what is the other $43 in fees)

    MF : 0.00092

    RV:33985.25

    Sales Tax:7.275% SALES TAX $1243.86

    Dealer Doc. Fees: $75.00



    What should be my monthly payment with 0.00$ down?

    Thanks
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,095
    matanoos said:

    My dealer just emailed me his offer for 2017 Acadia Denali 36/12

    MSRP; $52285.00

    GRS CAP COST 50523.75

    CAP REDUCTN 900.00
    -----------------------
    NET CAP COST 50867.61

    Selling price: $49,214

    other fees including acquisition fee $639 ($595 its from gm finance dont know what is the other $43 in fees)

    MF : 0.00092

    RV:33985.25

    Sales Tax:7.275% SALES TAX $1243.86

    Dealer Doc. Fees: $75.00



    What should be my monthly payment with 0.00$ down?

    Thanks

    Beats me.. none of those numbers add up.
    Where is the CAP reduction coming from?
    How is the NET CAP higher than the GROSS CAP, after a CAP reduction?

    I agree with the money factor and residual.

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  • matanoosmatanoos Member Posts: 17
    LOL
    I thought you will know. I'll ask the dealer
  • pdiddy11pdiddy11 Member Posts: 3
    Acadia - MSRP 43625, selling price 39,999, residual 62%, money factor .0013, term 39 months, 15k miles - quoted me $550/month - seems high?
    Enclave - MSRP 50835, selling price 46399, residual 52%, money factor .0013, term 39 months, 15k miles - quoted me $674/month - seems high?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,634
    pdiddy11 said:

    Acadia - MSRP 43625, selling price 39,999, residual 62%, money factor .0013, term 39 months, 15k miles - quoted me $550/month - seems high?
    Enclave - MSRP 50835, selling price 46399, residual 52%, money factor .0013, term 39 months, 15k miles - quoted me $674/month - seems high?

    What trim level for each?

    MF is marked up ... Acadia 39 month MF is .00092; Enclave is .00087.

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  • lsughostlsughost Member Posts: 18
    Can you please provide the MF and Residual on the following trims, all FWD in Louisiana for 36/12 and 39/12?

    SLE-2
    SLT-1
    Denali
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,634
    lsughost said:

    Can you please provide the MF and Residual on the following trims, all FWD in Louisiana for 36/12 and 39/12?

    SLE-2
    SLT-1
    Denali

    36/12 - .00092 and 65% (Denali) or 63% (others)

    Subtract 3% for 39/12

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  • dawgman25dawgman25 Member Posts: 6
    2017 Acadia Denali. MSRP $51,485 and sale price of $45985. Includes Competitive lease rebate of $1500 (lease off brand). 36mo./15k miles. 63% residual, .00125 MF. Payment of $496.03 + tax. Downpayment of $1291.64. 63% residual of $32,435.55

    I pushed back on the MF to .00092 and I have 2 months left on my current Acadia lease. They graciously offered to take $1k off the downpayment to compensate for the last 2 months. I assume it is more lease equity they are bargaining with. So only $291.64 downpayment. I told them to fix the MF and adjust the payment and we could get started. Good deal if the MF gets changed?
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    dawgman25 said:

    2017 Acadia Denali. MSRP $51,485 and sale price of $45985. Includes Competitive lease rebate of $1500 (lease off brand). 36mo./15k miles. 63% residual, .00125 MF. Payment of $496.03 + tax. Downpayment of $1291.64. 63% residual of $32,435.55

    I pushed back on the MF to .00092 and I have 2 months left on my current Acadia lease. They graciously offered to take $1k off the downpayment to compensate for the last 2 months. I assume it is more lease equity they are bargaining with. So only $291.64 downpayment. I told them to fix the MF and adjust the payment and we could get started. Good deal if the MF gets changed?

    Money factor bump adds $25/mo.

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  • dawgman25dawgman25 Member Posts: 6
    Right, so now they are down to either a zero down payment and a MF of .00125 or an $800 downpayment at a .00092 MF. $515 or $544 payment over 3 years/15k miles per year. Does this seem like a fair deal?
  • pdiddy11pdiddy11 Member Posts: 3
    Trim level - For the Acadia it is the SLT-1, For the Enclave not sure the model but it has leather seats with a 3.6 liter V6 DOHC engine. Based on the real money factor levels and if I put first month down with initial fees, what do you think would be a fair 39 month lease for each?
  • pdiddy11pdiddy11 Member Posts: 3
    Just a reminder the details were as follows:
    Acadia - MSRP 43625, selling price 39,999, residual 62%, money factor .0013, term 39 months, 15k miles - quoted me $550/month - seems high?
    Enclave - MSRP 50835, selling price 46399, residual 52%, money factor .0013, term 39 months, 15k miles - quoted me $674/month - seems high?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,095
    dawgman25 said:

    Right, so now they are down to either a zero down payment and a MF of .00125 or an $800 downpayment at a .00092 MF. $515 or $544 payment over 3 years/15k miles per year. Does this seem like a fair deal?

    So, if you want the lower money factor, they are raising the price? Not sure I understand..

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  • dawgman25dawgman25 Member Posts: 6
    2 things. No downpayment and $544 per month at .00125 OR $800 downpayment and $515 at .00092.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,634
    dawgman25 said:

    2 things. No downpayment and $544 per month at .00125 OR $800 downpayment and $515 at .00092.

    I'd reach out to another dealer - something doesn't seem right with those quotes.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,634
    pdiddy11 said:

    Trim level - For the Acadia it is the SLT-1, For the Enclave not sure the model but it has leather seats with a 3.6 liter V6 DOHC engine. Based on the real money factor levels and if I put first month down with initial fees, what do you think would be a fair 39 month lease for each?

    pdiddy11 said:

    Just a reminder the details were as follows:
    Acadia - MSRP 43625, selling price 39,999, residual 62%, money factor .0013, term 39 months, 15k miles - quoted me $550/month - seems high?
    Enclave - MSRP 50835, selling price 46399, residual 52%, money factor .0013, term 39 months, 15k miles - quoted me $674/month - seems high?

    Enclave MF is marked up - base is .00087

    Acadia MF is marked up - base is .00092

    Tell the dealers you won't sign anything where the MF is inflated.

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  • dawgman25dawgman25 Member Posts: 6
    Michaell said:

    dawgman25 said:

    2 things. No downpayment and $544 per month at .00125 OR $800 downpayment and $515 at .00092.

    I'd reach out to another dealer - something doesn't seem right with those quotes.
    Sorry, I was adding the tax to the payment. The actual payment is 496.03 with no down payment and a .00125 MF or a $469 payment before tax, $800 down on GM's MF of .00092. I think it makes more sense to take the higher money factor and no money out of my pocket.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,634
    dawgman25 said:

    Michaell said:

    dawgman25 said:

    2 things. No downpayment and $544 per month at .00125 OR $800 downpayment and $515 at .00092.

    I'd reach out to another dealer - something doesn't seem right with those quotes.
    Sorry, I was adding the tax to the payment. The actual payment is 496.03 with no down payment and a .00125 MF or a $469 payment before tax, $800 down on GM's MF of .00092. I think it makes more sense to take the higher money factor and no money out of my pocket.
    You shouldn't have to pay extra to have less out of pocket.

    Be polite and tell them you won't sign a deal where the MF is marked up.

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  • dawgman25dawgman25 Member Posts: 6
    Wouldn't zero money out of pocket be pretty darned good for a lease? Every lease I have ever done at least required a security deposit and a few other small fees. With these 2 scenarios, I am either paying the money upfront, or that $25 difference each month (MF) for the next 3 years.
  • MontysboxMontysbox Member Posts: 29
    Hi - Can you advise? Trading in lease early on Acadia Denali early. Have 4 months left and 3K over on miles. Deal on table is they take lease back early, $2K down for GMC Acadia SLE-1 AWD at:

    12k miles for 39 months
    Money factor 0.00092
    Residual 61%
    Payment of $475 / Mo
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,634
    dawgman25 said:

    Wouldn't zero money out of pocket be pretty darned good for a lease? Every lease I have ever done at least required a security deposit and a few other small fees. With these 2 scenarios, I am either paying the money upfront, or that $25 difference each month (MF) for the next 3 years.

    36 x 25 = $900, versus $800 upfront to get the lower MF.

    At the end of the day, it's your money, and your decision.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,634
    Montysbox said:

    Hi - Can you advise? Trading in lease early on Acadia Denali early. Have 4 months left and 3K over on miles. Deal on table is they take lease back early, $2K down for GMC Acadia SLE-1 AWD at:

    12k miles for 39 months
    Money factor 0.00092
    Residual 61%
    Payment of $475 / Mo

    I agree with the MF and residual.

    What are the MSRP and adjusted cap cost?

    I'd be concerned over the "take back early" comment - you are still on the hook for those payments and charges, it may be rolled over into the new lease.

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  • dawgman25dawgman25 Member Posts: 6
    Michaell said:

    dawgman25 said:

    Wouldn't zero money out of pocket be pretty darned good for a lease? Every lease I have ever done at least required a security deposit and a few other small fees. With these 2 scenarios, I am either paying the money upfront, or that $25 difference each month (MF) for the next 3 years.

    36 x 25 = $900, versus $800 upfront to get the lower MF.

    At the end of the day, it's your money, and your decision.
    Thanks. What I am trying to verifiy is if this is a good deal. Based on other quotes on this forum, it seems to be. Standard Denali package plus the technology package for just under $46k, no money down, and $496 per month for a 36mo./15k miles lease. Just trying to confirm good or bad.
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