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24m/10/12
30m/10/12
36m/10/12
thank you very much!
.00134 MF and 66%/63%/60% residual for 24/30/36 months
Add 1% for 10K/yr.
$1000 option allowance.
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Any updates for December? 36/12 and 36/15 in NJ. Thank you as always!
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Doesn't mean you'll get it, but that's the goal. Let them throw out the first number. It might surprise you.
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36/10
36/12
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Both sDrive and xDrive.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
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Same for both FWD and AWD
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Also, I still am a bit new to deciphering what is the best route for this lease (what to roll in/pay upfront), given my situation. Here's what I got so far:
MSRP - 43,045
- 1,000 (My non-BMW employer discount)
- 1,000 (BMW incentive)
- 500 (markdown)
Sale Price - 40,545
Assuming 2,500 customer cash, it is being applied as so:
Advanced payment - 522.63 (Their figure - 479.48 base, 43.15 tax))
Upfront charges - 1286.02 (I forget what I answered about wanting to pay "upfront" - doc/acq. fee possibly)
Total cap reduction - 691.35
I would prefer to only put out 2,000 max, but cannot seem to move on w/o getting your opinion of the current situation.
Thank you in advance!
$1000 option allowance.
Is the quote for 36/10 or 36/12?
For 36/10, with an adjusted CAP cost of $39,854, the payment should be $466/mo.+tax. The difference might be in tax on some of those upfront incentives.
$1286 seems about right for $925 acq.fee + DMV fees.
$500 less upfront will add about $16/mo. to the post-tax payment.
Not sure how your $1000 employer incentive works. If that's an actual rebate that the dealer is reimbursed for, then a $500 discount is pitiful. If that's just a dealer program, even $1500 off MSRP is not great.
Shoot for 5-7% off MSRP, before deducting incentives. Make sure you are getting the base .00134 MF.
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They should be able to get under $500/mo.with tax, and still only need $2000 upfront.
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- 2017 x1 - 49.9k MSRP
- 36 month, 12k miles per year
- Paying for all 7 MSDs
- Drive off at $4800
- I was told a MF of .00134 was used and a 60% RV
- 453/mo
$1000 option allowance.
Do you have the selling price and/or adjusted CAP cost?
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2017 x1 xdrive
36mo/10k
msrp $45,790
sale price $42k
rv 61%
mf 0.0011
cod $4,471.29 which includes first payment and multiple security deposits
$529.14/mo
Beyond MSD, what is the breakdown of the up front cash?
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I have to obtain the breakdown of the cash due on lease, but I believe the MSD is $4,200, which is 7 payments, bringing the inflated mf of 0.00159 down to 0.0011. I'm going to try to negotiate the mf down to base.
im also not sure what the adjusted cap cost is and will ask.
Thanks fir for your help, Michael! Happy holidays.
The New Jersey Dealer offered $489 monthly payment ($3500 upfront for taxes, fees, first payment) on a 36month/10k mile lease. After quizzing him on the lease he provided details as follows:
Cap Cost is $42,185
Residual value is $27,965.45 = 61.13%
I came up with a money factor of 0.00134 or 3.21%.
I have an excellent credit score. Where to you see the most room for negotiation?
I got other dealer offering 499/517 - so at least the one above is a little less.
Thank you for your input!
With your prices, I get $495/mo - pretty close, but my guess is that some of the $3500 is going to cap reduction to make the out of pocket a nice round number.
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Heres the additional info on the X1. Please let me know what you think.
Adjusted cap is $43,233.93 with breakdown as follows:
Selling price $42,000
doc fee $295
Rr tax(??) $13.93
Acquisition fee: $925
Breakdown of upfront monies is $4,471.29:
first mos payment: $529.14
msd: $3,850
dmv: $68
other: $24.15
MF with msds: 0.0011 (marked up 25 pts)
NM tax on leases: 5%
Do you think this is fair?
Thank you!
Sudha
Politely tell the dealer you won't sign a deal without getting the base MF - that will save you about $18/mo
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Looking to lease BMW X1. Here is what I have received from dealership:
MSRP = 44,340
Sale price = 42,240
Adjust Cap = 44,929.14
Out of pocket would be first month payment and 121 for new plates
36/10 = 592
36/12 = 604
Feedback???
I get the same calculated payment, which at least means they aren't marking up the money factor.
Did they break down the $2700 added to the CAP?
Is there more due at signing, other than the first payment?
That price is about $1000 over invoice.. You could try to cut that back some.
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Thanks.
MSRP 36145, Sale Price 32955
1849 drive off, 36 month lease with 12,000 miles a year & 416 including tax..
Drive off
416 1st payment
925 acquisition fee
430 registration fee
77.80 upfront taxes
2nd quote
Total Suggested Price 37,245.00
Sale Price 32,830.00
36 months Lease
12k miles
$0.00 Down Payment
Due at Signing
First Monthly Payment....... 397.08
LICENSE FEE................. 316.00
Doc Fee..................... 80.00
Ca. Tire Fee................ 7.00
ACQ.FEE..................... 925.00
EFF FEE..................... 29.00
ACQ.FEE TAX UPFRT........... 80.94
DOC.FEE TAX UPFRT........... 7.00
$365/month+tx
The only place to work on it is the selling price, or use multiple security deposits to lower the money factor.
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The second deal looks better. $1100 more in options and $20/mo. cheaper
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MSRP: 41,745
Sale Price: 39,850
Adjusted cap cost (12k/yr) – 42,462.38
Bank fee 925
Doc fee 250
Sales tax 1437.38
(2612.38 added to sale price)
36/10k – 562.31/mo – 1st and plates
36/12k – 574.22/mo – 1st and plates
This vehicle has;
Cold Weather Package
Driver Assistance
Premium Package
Sensatec interior/standard trim
No navigation
Thoughts?
I agree with the calculations.
That price is about $1000 over invoice. You might have a little room, there.
I would recommend the MSD program to reduce the money factor.
The X3 has a higher residual (by 3%). You might be able to lease one for about the same price, even with the higher MSRP of the X3.
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Thank you.
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This is the quote I got after about 4 days of negotiations. Includes early return of current BMW lease $1210 owed. The 2500 down is drive off cost and includes dealer fees and tax etc. But I can't get a breakdown of what exactly makes up the $2500. Definitely at least $1200 of it is money to get the payment to match another quote from different dealer. Shouldn't the payment be around $460?
My other quote is for same car but with premium package, Harmon Kardon upgrade, 19inch alloys. MSRP 42500. sale price 40500, due at signing $2675 and $557/m which includes tax, tire insurance, wear and tear insurance. I dont have any other numbers but this would be the 3rd lease from them and the finance manager is our good friend and each time we could just sit and run the numbers in her office but she just went to work for Mercedes and we are completely in the dark. Bad timing. We live in Miami and this is for 36/12 lease. Any help on both quotes would be extremely helpful.
Model 17XB X1xDr28i S USD 35,100.00
Color A83 Glacier Silver Metallic 700.00
Upholstery KCSW Black SensaTec N/C
Options 7HW xLine N/C
28C†18" Light Alloy Wheels Y-spoke Style ... N/C
4LR†Fine-wood 'Fineline' Trim with Pearl Ch... 350.00
ZDA Driver Assistance Package 1,150.00
402 Panoramic moonroof 1,350.00
Accessories Z20 Luggage Compartment Mat 150.00
ZA6 Floor Liners-Black 250.00
ZJ5 BMW First Aid Kit 45.00
Accessories Total 445.00
Net Total 39,095.00
Total Suggested Price 40,090.00
$468/mo with your numbers. I'd be polite and ask for the breakdown of that $2500. First payment and acquisition fee, at least.
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