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What is the difference between the doc fee and the inception fee?
The acquisition fee is set by BMWFS and can't be altered. The other two are likely dealer initiated.
Lots of BMW dealers to choose from - find one willing to play ball with the numbers.
Information is power - the more you have, the less they can pull the wool over your eyes.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
This is an offer I have for a 2017 BMW x1 xDrive28i- Cold weather package, premium package, driver assistance, and navigation. Does this look like a good deal? If not- any suggestion as to where I could find some room to negotiate down would be so helpful. Located in Massachusetts, if that info is needed.
Thank you!
But, here goes.. With that NET cap, they are using about $2205 of the $5500 for CAP reduction. Another $120 for CAP reduction tax, $425 (est) first payment, $2700 security deposit (6 MSDs). That still leaves the $575 of fees at the top, unpaid.
.00092 MF (with 6 MSDs) and 60% residual.
That gives me a payment of $405/mo.+tax, or about $430/mo.
It's a decent deal. $395 dealer fee and $249 service contract look like padding.
I'd rather do it with just $3500 due at signing ($3000 of MSDs), and a payment of $497.mo.
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I can't figure out the numbers. I know it doesn't include all of the fees etc. I am in Charlotte NC, Any help here is appreciated
Destination should always be part of the selling price.
$649 dealer fee? shewww
Your negotiated price is good, but not with a $649 fee.
Acquisition fee is $925, so you'll have to factor that in.
$1500 more off for the incentive.
.00134 MF and 58% residual for 36/15.
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With those numbers above I came out with a lower payment than the dealer quoted using the lease guide calculator.
Confirm the adjusted cap cost with the dealer.
And, lease calculators on-line sometimes make assumptions we know nothing about.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
Can you please provide the current MF and RV for a 2017 xDrive X1 for 36 months/12k miles in the greater Boston area? Think the MSRP would be about 41,420 with cold weather package, M sport package and Harmon Kardon stereo.
Thanks!
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Thanks in advance!
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
leasing a 2017 x1. Asis package, Texh package, Heated seats/steering, prem package, cold weather package
Msrp 46k. They asking 39,600k, neg down to 35k. Based on current rates of 61% .00140 mf. They are eating my lease payments left of $1200. Car is a demo has 3500 miles on it, comes with warranty like new. No msd. Including New York tax (8.875) , plate transfer all fees and acquisition: 4000 down, 350 a month. What do you think?
The 3500 miles will reduce the residual by $875 (.25 per mile), and the payment goes to $304/mo.
If the $4K up front covers all your taxes and fees (and, I'm guessing, the $1200 of remaining lease payments), then I don't see how they get to $350/mo.
Ask the dealer for the adjusted cap cost - if higher than the $35K you've given us, find out what's been added.
And, if something has been added, get a specific breakdown of what the $4000 at signing covers.
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$350 is too high, based on the numbers given. Ask for the adjusted cap cost. That should tell us a lot.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
State and tax rate?
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With your prices, I get $489/mo. Confirm the adjusted cap cost with the dealer; sounds like you may have rolled the taxes and fees into the payment.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
2017 BMW X1 x28i
Black Sapphire Metallic / Mocha Dakota Leather
Cold Weather Pkg, Driver Assistance, Luxury, Premium Package, Business Nav, Enhanced USB/BT
Accessories: Luggage Mat, Wheel Locks, 1st Aid Kit
MSRP $43,190
Selling Price $38,850
LEASE offer
3yr/10k mile
61% Residual
Acq Fee $925
MF=0.00091 (assumes $3500 security deposit)
Drive off: $4444.72 =sec deposit + 1st payment + doc fee + State DMV Fee $383
Monthly Payment = $433.20 + 33.57 tax.
Thanks
10% off MSRP, too.
Looks great!
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Can you please provide residual and MF for a 2017 X1 xDrive28i with 36M/15k in San Diego, CA?
Thank you!
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Thank you again!
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I wanted to get your thoughts on the below:
2017 BMW X1 x28i
Jet Black / Black Dakota Leather
Cold Weather Pkg, Luxury Package, Premium Package, Technology Package
MSRP $44,645
Selling Price $42,190 (invoice, including $1,000 market credit and all dealer fees)
LEASE offer
3yr/10k mile
61% Residual
MF=0.00097 (assumes $3,500 security deposit)
Drive off: $6,717.83 = sec deposit ($3,500) + 1st payment + State Sales Tax (NY, $1,532.78) + State DMV Fee ($306) + BMW Ban Fee ($925)
Monthly Payment = $454
Thanks so much.
$41,190 CAP = $454/mo.
It's a decent deal. 5.5% off MSRP, and base money factor.
I would do one of two things:
a) Roll the sales tax into the lease. This will make the payment $498/mo. That won't change your MSDs, but will knock about $1500 off your upfront money.
b) Ask them to take another $150 off the price, which will drop your payment just below $450, and would require $350 less for MSDs. (7 X $450). Alternatively, you could make a $150 CAP cost reduction, but I like the idea of them giving you more off.
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30 Months/12K
36 Months/12K
24 Months/10K
30 Months/10K
36 Months/10K
Thanks!
Add 1% for 10K/yr
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I am in North Carolina and the sales tax is 7%. So far didn't get any decent deal.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
MSRP 44,385
Sales Price: 41,385
Aftermarkets: 933 (the dealer said they cannot totally remove these but can provide me extra money off)
Residual: 61%
Money factor: 0.00147 before I put 7 MSDs upfront
7 MSDs: 4,200
1st payment: 586.65
Upfront Charges: 126
Due on delivery: 4,912.65
Monthly payment: 586.65
I know it is obviously not a decent deal but want to know where to focus more to negotiate.
In NC and sales tax is 7%.
With a base MF of .00146, and .00097 MF after the MSD reduction, I get $491/mo.+tax.
$586 seems like too much.
Verify the actual money factor being used, after reduction for the MSDs. It should be .00097
I'll guess they are marking it up.
Make sure they are using the 61% residual
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MSRP: 42,690
Discount: 3,200
Tint and prot: 698
Total: 40,188
Money Factor: 0.00147
With 7 MSDs upfront
Monthly: 535
Fee at Inception: 1,407.28
Drive off fee including MSDs: 5,150
I am starting to think something wrong here because I tried to negotiate on the sale price or provide MSDs but seems I got almost the same monthly payment....
Good discount, but offsetting that with overpriced tint.
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Can you please tell me your thoughts on this deal:
2017 X1 xDrive 328i
MSRP 45,840
Sale Price 41,000
MF 0.00139
7 MSDs
RF: .58
Term: 36mo
Mi: 15k
Tax (VA): 2,502
"Fees": 2,026
Month 1: 627