Mystery car pix

qbrozen

fintail said:

This should be easy:

Can't recall what Ferris's dad drove, but the headrests seem to point to another Volvo, I think.

EDIT: nope. Not a volvo.

stickguy

maybe an Audi? Headrests are unique.

ab348

qbrozen said:

Still mystery cars, no? Just a little added trivia to go with it.

More like mystery movies. The cars themselves are pretty mundane.

ab348

Getting back to our original programming:

andys120

Obvisously British and likely an Estate conversion by Radford or Tickford. My first thought was Jowett, then Jensen but it's not either. I saw that grille style in an episode of The Crown but couldn't ID it.

A clue please?

qbrozen

ab348 said:

Still mystery cars, no? Just a little added trivia to go with it.

More like mystery movies. The cars themselves are pretty mundane.

True, most are mundane. I'd agree we should try for more interesting cars.

qbrozen

ab348 said:

Getting back to our original programming:

Wow! Was that really a production car? Certainly looks like a one-off.

Michaell

stickguy said:

maybe an Audi? Headrests are unique.

Audi - 100 or 200 sedan.

Mom drove a K-car wagon with the fake wood grain.

Jeanie drove a Fiero.

ab348

andys120 said:

Obvisously British and likely an Estate conversion by Radford or Tickford. My first thought was Jowett, then Jensen but it's not either. I saw that grille style in an episode of The Crown but couldn't ID it.

A clue please?

It is a 1954 A......

fintail

Allard P2 woody, and yes, I think they made a few of them

fintail

Yep, Audi 5000 in the US, the model plagued with user error/"unintended acceleration".

Hughes was a master at casting cars.

Michaell said:

Audi - 100 or 200 sedan.

Mom drove a K-car wagon with the fake wood grain.

Jeanie drove a Fiero.

tjc78

Lots of 80s iron in Ferris.  Rooney drove a K-car.  The weaving old lady a period Town Car. They were all spot on. 

fintail

Even Cameron's Alfa filled the role as something given to a kid by a car enthusiast father. But some don't like movie cars, I see

Welcome to the PNW:

Mr_Shiftright

A sleeping beauty I found today in a warehouse: (very dusty, still very restorable).

stickguy

Kaiser. 53? Guessing on the year.

omarman

Kaiser hubcaps and maybe Kaiser + something on the fender. Not quite overdone enough to be a '58?
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tmart

Based on the front fender, a Kaiser Manhattan.

lostwrench1

Well, it's a '54 or '55 Kaiser Manhattan. I wish I could see the hood ornament better to see which year. From the little I see of it, I'll say 1954.

magnette

The green car is a Toyota Corona, from the early 60s I think. I assume it was sold in the US from new judging by the lights, but at first I thought a Tiara, although those seem to be Toyopet or Toyota and I don't know if you had them.

These models were before Toyota started to push into the UK which was in 1965/6 - our first Japanese car actually sold here was the Daihatsu Compagno from late 1964 although hardly any were sold here and only in London and south east I believe, followed by the Honda S800 although they did sell a few S600 initially I think.

magnette

That Kaiser Manhattan model had a whole afterlife in South America after the US plant shut I believe but that is presumably one of the original ones - it looks almost too good to restore - tempting to clean it and retain the patina.

andys120

Curious about Kaiser-Frazier, they shared model names. Did they have any model names besides "Manhattan" and "Vagabond"?

tjc78

What's the story on the Z car behind it? Turbo?

lostwrench1

magnette said:

That Kaiser Manhattan model had a whole afterlife in South America after the US plant shut I believe but that is presumably one of the original ones - it looks almost too good to restore - tempting to clean it and retain the patina.

Yes, Kaiser in Argentina made the Kaiser Carabela from 1955 to 1962.

ab348

andys120 said:

Curious about Kaiser-Frazier, they shared model names. Did they have any model names besides "Manhattan" and "Vagabond"?

I remember one called "Dragon" which had a unique interior.

lostwrench1

andys120 said:

Curious about Kaiser-Frazier, they shared model names. Did they have any model names besides "Manhattan" and "Vagabond"?

The only model name shared was the Manhattan. The Vagabond was Frazer.
Kaiser had the Special, Custom, Traveler, Virginian, De Luxe, Carolina, and the Golden Dragon (which sounds like a restaurant).

The grille of the '47 and '48 Kaisers is one of my all time favorites of any car for uniqueness.

fintail

Yep, sold as a Tiara here. I think they were distributed mostly on the west coast, which is the only place I have seen survivors. That one is a few hours from me.

As far as I know, we didn't get the S600 or S800 when new, but some have trickled in as private imports. We did get the N600 and Z600, and I have seen several of both in this area.

magnette said:

The green car is a Toyota Corona, from the early 60s I think. I assume it was sold in the US from new judging by the lights, but at first I thought a Tiara, although those seem to be Toyopet or Toyota and I don't know if you had them.

These models were before Toyota started to push into the UK which was in 1965/6 - our first Japanese car actually sold here was the Daihatsu Compagno from late 1964 although hardly any were sold here and only in London and south east I believe, followed by the Honda S800 although they did sell a few S600 initially I think.

Mr_Shiftright

Very good, lads. The car is a '54 Kaiser Manhattan. The body is in very fine fettle aside from one ding near the left headlight. Chrome bumpers are deteriorating, headlight and tail light bezels pitted. Interior is not bad--dusty and musty but not torn up at all--a bit sun-faded. Looks like it might even run. It's all there. I think it could be revived and driven as is for a few thousand dollars. It's a manual transmission, 6 cylinder.



The Datsun 300ZX is a 1984 and it's trash. Parts car for body panels.

Mr_Shiftright

How to Destroy a Car in Under 120,000 miles:

kyfdx

Other than being a stick-shift, that isn't a car that is really worth saving, anyway, IMO

Mr_Shiftright

You want a mystery vehicle?

I saw this old flatbed truck in the warehouse, circa late 1920s, with the most peculiar name on the radiator shell that I have never heard of:

It seems to read "Demaront" or "Demarint"---certainly DEMAR is plain and I'm pretty sure the last letter is a "T".

I can't find any name like that anywhere. The engine appears to be a Hercules, so it's an "assembled" truck, made by buying parts from many vendors. Perhaps it was just a company name they put on the shell?

A mystery I can't solve.

Mr_Shiftright

"ready to restore"
"barn find"
"ran when parked"
" intended to restore it, but family matters got in the way"
"should be no problem getting title and new VIN plate"

kyfdx

Looks more like: De Mart II

But, that might just be me...

fintail

Looks local to you:

http://www.classicrefusetrucks.com/albums/albumpool2/DT.html

http://www.antiqbrocdelatour.com/Les-collections/voitures-anciennes/La marque De Martini, Etats-Unis 1916 - 1934-id2234.html

Mr_Shiftright said:

You want a mystery vehicle?

I saw this old flatbed truck in the warehouse, circa late 1920s, with the most peculiar name on the radiator shell that I have never heard of:

It seems to read "Demaront" or "Demarint"---certainly DEMAR is plain and I'm pretty sure the last letter is a "T".

I can't find any name like that anywhere. The engine appears to be a Hercules, so it's an "assembled" truck, made by buying parts from many vendors. Perhaps it was just a company name they put on the shell?

A mystery I can't solve.

Mr_Shiftright

I dunno...I'm baffled. I need to find a list of every brand of truck made in the USA.

thebean

DeMartini truck, if I'm not mistaken. They built garbage trucks from the 20's to about mid 50's, I seem to recall.

stickguy

yeah, looked like martini to me. I see others found the proof.

Mr_Shiftright

Oh, that could be. I have heard of them. That's a good tip Bean!

Check this out:

http://www.classicrefusetrucks.com/albums/albumpool2/DT.html

Mr_Shiftright

Does anyone know how to tell the year of these things? VIN is 221916.

stickguy

see if there is an owners manual.

stickguy

there is actually a 120 on BaT right now. I was reading through the comments, and quite a bit of minutia about how to tell. Some of which was discussion about various ways they did the VINs. But also stuff like different grills, where the windshield squirters are, etc.

texases

Any chance the 'read the year on the taillight' trick would work? Probably not, they must have used the same one for years...

thebean

Mr_Shiftright said:

Oh, that could be. I have heard of them. That's a good tip Bean! Check this out: http://www.classicrefusetrucks.com/albums/albumpool2/DT.html

Even a blind hog finds an acorn every now and then.

fintail

If those are original black plates, I will guess ~1967 based on the sequence, as I believe they were issued alphanumerically.

lostwrench1

Have a friend who is a police officer? Have the officer run the plate. Request the year only.

Mr_Shiftright

stickguy said:

there is actually a 120 on BaT right now. I was reading through the comments, and quite a bit of minutia about how to tell. Some of which was discussion about various ways they did the VINs. But also stuff like different grills, where the windshield squirters are, etc.

Oh, please, please---don't make me go through that!

It seems that a '67 would start with Chassis Number 225xxx, so this one is 221xxx, suggesting it is a '66. The '66s start with 193xxx.

andys120

ab348

Lots of mystery cars but here is how that looks today:

https://goo.gl/maps/hyDgVAytztJ2

lostwrench1

I'll grab the two Buicks on the left. A 1955 followed by a 1947 or 1948.

fintail

Heading away from the camera, in front of the Serbian Hall, I will pick off a 57 Mercury and 56 Ford 2 door wagon.

Newest car in the pic is fairly easy to spot, too.

texases

That's a rare BMW on the right - not many of their motorcycles in the US at that time. Maybe an R68 or R69.